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Via @OliverCooper Views of different sorts of immigration from YouGov
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No surprise then that it's in line with public opinion and a Green is horrified!
Happily I suspect they are all able to fit in Farage's telephone box and being well into their dotage most wont be around for too long
John Humphrys admits BBC ignored immigration in case it seemed racist
http://dailym.ai/1yNGuVM via @MailOnline
The bastards who have done most to help make Britain a multicultural backwater are beginning to fear the heat of the people.
It doesn't explain why Mr Senior thinks this is "Not good news for Farage's wife and relatives"
Is anyone aware of the story behind the smashing pumpkins song 'disarm'?
About child abuse, interesting lyrics
The only question I'd have issues with is the "wanting to study at UK universities". I am sure that people answering this in question had in mind the mainstream universities. The problem was - which is where the government has sought to crack down - is in the dodgy "language schools" and other fake "universities" effectively offering a visa rather than an education. But this often gets misreported.
Certainly the 4 universities that my family are actively involved in have all seen healthy increases in student numbers and mix
Equally, it's unavoidable to conclude that the fear of immigration is also most present in those socio-economic groups whose jobs are most threatened by hard-working immigrants prepared to accept the minimum wage.
The final group, of course is the merely prejudiced.
The next government must seek to reassure the first two groups and must not pander to the third; leave that to UKIP.
It's not a difficult task it just requires a bit of guts and courage from politicians of the traditional parties.
Ah. Perhaps it's a bit more difficult than I thought then....
raise and raze.
cleave and cleave
indigent and indigenous.
"I suggest if you are looking for evidence of "intellectual dotage" you look in a mirror."
Talking of which I bumped into my old copy of White Hotel when I was with my daughter and told her I remember enjoying it many years ago so she now has it.
I hope it's aged well.
(And the Pumpkins did do a cover of the Mode's "Never Let Me Down Again")
11 Terrific Words Coined By John Milton - basic, ordinary words like 'terrific' and 'enjoyable'. Also, 'space' in a new context.
Immigration has had a net positive on my life in many ways. That's my story, and it be one that is familiar to many. The hideousness of Rotherham, Rochdale etc is far from the whole story either.
Perhaps your experience is not as unusual as you think.
(*) In fact, my seven best mates all married foreigners. It's a tech industry thing. ;-)
And who is playing the damsel? Polly Toynbee?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73JORMGEA3w
"HELP HELP the evil UKIP voter has chained me on the rail tracks! Who will save me?"
And I prefer Shakespeare's earthy brilliance to that of others.
Yesterday we saw "The Merchant of Venice" at the Almeida. I liked it, for it set me thinking about racism. What was Will like?
Lab 34.2% (+0.6)
Con 31.6% (-1.1)
UKIP 15.0% (-0.4)
LD 7.5% (nc)
Lab lead 2.6% (+1.7)
Take-home:
* Highest Labour lead since 12th October. Though it may seem to be an outlier, three weeks ago (30th Nov), Lab did have a lead of 2.1%.
* Tories down quite a bit, but UKIP also down a touch.
* Whither crossover?
Was it all you were hoping for?
Sunil Prasannan @Sunil_P2 · 1m1 minute ago
Final Sunil on Sunday ELBOW (Electoral Leader-Board Of the Week) for 2014: Lab 34.2%, Con 31.6%, UKIP 15.0%, LD 7.5%.
https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/546765234917359617
And this appears to have been at least part of the reason for several foreign-born engineers of my acquaintance here in the UK. It's a good job too, as there is a massive skills shortage in some sectors of the industry.
Also, techies tend to travel a little as well.
As for whether my experience is average: perhaps it is not. But I don't think it is unusual, either, especially the bit about my village.
Would your "basically prohibit immigration from majority Muslim countries for now (apart from stupidly rich people)" clause stop highly-qualified people coming over from those countries, even if they are cash poor?
A couple of months later,they moving,the boyfriend got attacked just walking down the street to his house by a racist Asian gang.
What hope have we when this happens.
I think the company should put on Aladdin, as we are going to need a genie to get out of this mess!
Labour weekly leads in ELBOW since 17th August: Latest and final Lab lead for 2014 = 2.6%.
https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/546769961419804673
http://ukipdaily.com/radical-islam-left-war-commonwealth/
http://ukipdaily.com/courant-times-sunday-21-december/
Mumbai, 2008?
Politicians can't make significant changes without a change in the rules. Arbitrary actions by the UK could result in millions of EU citizens suing the British State for damages/discrimination. The lawyers would be ready to bring actions and grab their share of the winnings.
To be fair this advice comes under the heading 'common sense'.
I'm getting to the point of fearing for my family now,in the last 2 weeks they have been 5 or 6 attacks on white people walking on they own in the area I live.
The UK has a long and proud history of helping people in (5) as long as the overall numbers are reasonable, and sensible.
That gets to the crux of the matter: "immigration", as an issue, is one of volume and numbers. The rate has to be controlled, sustainable and readily absorbable. However, the level over the last 15+ years is unprecedented in the history of the UK.
People are just not happy with the rate, the pressures it places on infrastructure, and the level of social change it has brought, and continues to bring. I think they're absolutely right.
There's no getting away from this. But politicians will try because (a) there's not much they can do about it, without major political change, and (b) they don't really want to do anything about it, because they benefit from it and see it as an antidote to what they perceive as the insular and philistine views of much of their voter base.
BTW Did you see the purple line on the first graph I Tweeted earlier?
It's a bit of a tangent, but I don't, really agree with people when they say there's a problem of not enough women scientists and engineers. There's a problem of not enough scientists and engineers. Saying we need more girls to go into it is a solution not a problem.
I remember as a 12 year old in the early 60s going to Luton airport, which was merely a collection of huts in those days, and going with my parents on a Sky Tours package deal to Tenerife, involving an 8 hours each way flight on a Bristol Britannia aircraft.
It was only a couple of years later that I first flew to the US, on a Super Constellation charter flight formerly of TWA, with a refueling stop at Gander in Newfoundland.
It's a long time ago.
However I think when people actually talk about bongo bongo land and the like and people defend that comment - as people certainly did on the web - they are telling us about themselves.
Unlike many jobs, there is no physical reason why girls can not fill scientist or (most) engineering roles. The women I have known in these roles have generally been at least as good as their male counterparts, and in many cases better (*).
Many of these jobs are very mind-oriented, and you get some incredibly bright people who are absolute unsung stars in their companies. Their output can be many times that of the ordinary pleb engineers such as myself, although that is often tempered by other characteristics such as lack of process and management skills.
By restricting such roles to just men, you are reducing the number of those ultra-bright people going into the industry; this mindset is intrinsic part of their personality and cannot easily be taught, if at all. A lack of such people inhibits industry; not encouraging women worsens the problem.
Getting more women into engineering is good for women, good for men, good for industry, and good for the sex lives of geeks. It's a win-win. ;-)
To make it clear, I'm not calling for positive discrimination towards female engineers. Just that parents, society and schools should start to see STEM as a 'suitable' job for women.
(*) Perhaps, because there are barriers put in front of them, some tend to have wanted it more, and worked harder, than people like me who drifted into it.
Parts of software are very healthy indeed. It's also true that many UK-born engineers choose to move abroad to live, as well as ones coming in.
It should be noted that I am not working at the moment, out of choice. :-)
However, that was then. Dunno what it is like now.
But it is a valid, and true, experience of immigration, and not (I think) an 'unusual' one.
It's an experience of immigration. I doubt it's an experience of mass immigration.
My experiences are more like yours and SeanT's, but there are many others who have very different ones.
The Daily Record survey, taken days after Murphy’s election as Scottish Labour leader, shows the SNP continuing to dominate Westminster and Holyrood voting intentions.
The Survation poll of 1000 people shows the nationalist surge continuing with a record-breaking 48 per cent of voters saying they will back the SNP in the May general election.
With the SNP up two points from November and Labour unchanged on 24 per cent, the Nats are outgunning Labour two to one across the country.
www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/revealed-daily-record-poll-shows-4851425
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"I can assure you that there is a shortage in the areas I work in (and companies are desperate to hire)"
How much do those companies spend on training and staff development? If they can't find enough people fully qualified there will be a reason and/or they need to look at other ways of getting the numbers up.
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Hmmm. You killed it.
EXPRESS FRONT PAGE: Poll finds that "51% of Britons want to leave the EU" pic.twitter.com/M6VxbzASww
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/revealed-daily-record-poll-shows-4851425
The more 'gender equal' a society the lower the percentage of women in STEM. No one is restricting anyone, it's women excerising their right to choose their career rather than say in India where women are forced to go into computing for financial reasons.
http://quintaldo.wordpress.com/2013/03/10/brainwashed-norway-documentary/
@DouglasCarswell @GuidoFawkes ...when I asked Theresa May before @CommonsHomeAffs she said she supported non-EU graduates staying on to work
With recruitment, a major problem is identifying the 'stars', which are what we particularly need more of, wherever they come from. I was never one myself (and never will be), but managed to identify a niche where I could earn a living that would give me a good, if not SeanT-level, lifestyle. We need the stars, but these are very hard to identify from interview, and especially at graduate level.
Then there are the problems surrounding in-house training and job development, which is woeful in most UK companies I have been in for the usual reasons.
I don't recognise your pay situation either, and although I have been outside full-time paid work for a while I do keep my ear to the ground. It was bad in 2008-2011, but has really picked up recently. But perhaps my area of software is very different to yours.
48 vs 24. A 24-pt lead?
Is this the poll being used for the competition?
Wow.
http://newstonoone.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/testing-boundaries-2-labour-vs-snp.html
To be honest, I'm just cheering myself up before I review last year's predictions later in the week. That's going to be chastening.
In addition a further problem is our schools. We recently had a work experience guy from a local school. Unlike many firms I got this guy handed to me and agreed to it only on the proviso that we would actually give him work experience. This 15 year old came to us and it soon became apparent he knew little. I had to teach him about polymorphism, inheritance, interfaces etc from scratch to name just a few things they had failed to teach him. At the end his teacher came for a debriefing. We had got him doing some basic stuff which while basic was still of use to us. We got him to demonstrate to her what he had been doing then questioned her on why we had to teach him so much. Her response was "oh thats not till the a level syllabus"....many wont understand this but mr jessop will. How can you teach an oop language without at least covering the basics such as inheritance or polymorphism.
End result this guy went away with a thirst to join the ranks of software engineers because my bosses gave me time to actually teach him. His friends he told me had been mainly been tasked with making coffee or sweeping the floor
Rubbish. Worse, it is stupid, ignorant and sexist rubbish that is easily disprovable by a lady sitting not to far from me, and many others I know.
I am also not talking about 'forcing' women into any role. I'm just saying we should let them know that such roles are out there, and that they could do them. Instead of restricting them, as you evidently do, to roles such as nursing and fashion.
Because you know better than them what they want. A woman should know her place, eh?
Decisive changes this week
Warning: Totally unscientific.
W/E 19/12/14
C 260 (274), L 307 (292), SNP 43 (45), LD 17 (16) Grn 1 (1)
C 31.50%, Lab 32.94%, LD 6.12%, Green 7.1%, SNP 3.6%, UKIP 14.81%
As ASSS is calculated through regional sub samples, UKIP is still zero. From 2015, the more sophisticated version will make adjustments for UKIP and LD. The above is a purely statistical exercise.
Where has Labour's gains come from ?
Scotland 2 [ SNP -2 ], London 2 [ C -3, LD + 1 ], Rest of South 3 [ C -3 ]
Midlands / Wales: No change, North 8 [ C -8 ]
Interesting point about Scotland. If SNP / Lab split becomes 37:31, Labour overtakes the Nats with 29 to 26 seats. Current distribution is 43.2% - 27% [ 43 / 12 ]
I am currently intending to vote tory as I usually do; but as I'm in a safe tory seat anyway I am increasingly tempted to vote Ukip in protest against the ignorance, malice and intellectual yahooism of the pbtories. Well done.
Actually quite interesting, it surveys 12 countries
Only Greece seem to have a less favourable view of the EU than us
MineForNothing @minefornothing · 6h6 hours ago
OBR International Poll on EU membership in the UK
Stay - 49%
Leave - 51%
http://www.opinion.co.uk/perch/resources/europeanattitudesresults.pdf …
I wrote colour matching software for ICI paints which included having to work out how to actually match a colour using spectrophotometric data...not so easy when you have pearlescent and metallic colours
I wrote the road routing engine for the DFT transport portal
I have written DRM software for DVD's
I rewrote the printer management system of windows to give not only the ability to move jobs but to script printer management for a printer company
I am currently creating software to enable the design and statistical validation of games for the online casino industry
Non software wise I have also squeezed in a career as a trawlerman, and a professional poker player
Loughborough has a lot of immigration too. A large Polish populaion, large Asian areas, a smaller Somali grouping, and of course the student population.
The thing is, having been born and raised in the county, I don't know anything different, so immigration doesn't really bother me, and living in a village insulates me from it, I guess.
Software engineering however in my view is still more art than science. There is a certain way you need to think to be the best and often that is down to spatial thinking which men are generally better at. Discard however the top 5% of the bell curve and I would say on average women have a slight edge
What is that all about? Is it a wind up?
Seems like the other 11 countries are OK with the Afghans
I'm slightly surprised you expected a 15-year old to know things like polymorphism and inheritance, yet alone human factors/interfaces in any great detail. Perhaps he should have known of them, but I would have thought that those were better taught at uni as there are so many other programming concepts to cover in the little time allotted at GCSE level? The basic concepts are simple; the details are rather complex and messy.
In the same way I wouldn't expect a 15-year old to be able to code me a microkernel in ARM assembler. Unless he was a very precocious 15-year old...
As an aside in this increasingly off-topic conversation, it's common in some companies to give work experience kids or students off main-line work. One company got very good results by putting everyone (including would-be marketeers) in the test department; both for the laborious running of tests, setting up equipment and writing test scripts in various languages. You see a heck of a lot of the company from a test department.
Many of the best coders I've known (the 'stars' I keep on wittering on about) are self-taught well before school, as indeed was I (and from your age, I guess you were as well). Self-teaching is the slowest way of learning, but also, if you can hack it, the best as you learn from your mistakes. Hopefully items like the Raspberry Pi will do what the ZX Spectrum and BBC B did, and get kids interested in real coding at a young age.
More importantly I was disappointed but not surprised to read that your company does not spend money on developing your skills and those of your colleagues. Mr. Jessop up thread also made a comment about a lack of training "for the usual reasons". Companies not prepared to spend on developing their staff are preparing to go out of business.
I make the unrounded SNP lead 23.72 points... Thanks to a bunch of people on 24, my 24.28 prediction goes up in smoke...
http://t.co/GBQ14kzbxZ