I've seen the following figures on Twitter: Con 38%, UKIP 28%, Lab 25%. But they don't look believable to me, because the combined Con and UKIP share is so high.
Given the TV media latch on to every ComRes and Survation poll regardless of how inaccurate they prove to be on a regular basis, I'm surprised its not being blasted all over the twittersphere.
Farage is getting frightened by his own success, asking Tory MPs not to defect until after Christmas. Why's that? If six more want to jump let them jump now. Politics is a game of momentum, and if the momentum's running with you, go with it. Don't try applying the brakes. It'll spoil the outcome. What's his problem? UKIP could hold the balance of power before the election, let alone after it.
It'd be pretty much impossible for UKIP to come ahead of Labour in a poll considering where UKIP votes come from. Their best chance of a second would be coming above the Tories in a Survation.
Bruce Anderson in the Daily Telegraph ' have always believed that the gravest threat to the Union will come from England, not Scotland. Ultimately, my fellow Scots will not vote to separate themselves from England’s cheque-book. The English may think differently. They are the politest race on earth. You stand on an Englishman’s foot; he will apologise. A second time, a second apology. Only on the third occasion will he punch you on the nose. The Scots are now on about two and a half.
The average Englishman drew two conclusions from the referendum campaign. First, that the Scots are obsessed by non-existent grievances. Second, that they do not seem to like the English. At a recent international soccer match in Switzerland, the English fans yelled “---- off, Scotland!”. They would not have done that three months earlier. Having started, they may not stop in a hurry. They will also be ready to insist on fairness.
Thirty-seven years ago, the West Lothian question was posed by Tam Dalyell and christened by Enoch Powell. Why should Scottish MPs be able to move on English matters when English MPs have no such rights in Scotland? No one has found a solution. Lord Chancellor Derry Irvine came closest: “The best answer to the West Lothian question is to stop asking it.” That was an admirable essay in defiance, brutality and cynicism. It was not an answer. Now, the Tories have come up with one: Evel – English votes for English laws. Ed Miliband will have to oppose it. Without his Scottish MPs – assuming that the Nats do not unseat them all – he could not form a government. So he will have to set his face against fairness. In England, that could be disastrous. '
It'd be pretty much impossible for UKIP to come ahead of Labour in a poll considering where UKIP votes come from. Their best chance of a second would be coming above the Tories in a Survation.
It specifically says on Express front page that UKIP pulls ahead of LABOUR rivals!! That means Tories in 1st place and Labour in 3rd. Time for us to relaunch the Save Ed campaign.
Why would the Express promote a poll of Sun readers? Surely it's a different poll (voodoo or otherwise)?
I'd think that if it had been their own poll it'd be on page 1; as it's the Sun, they'll still give it a showing because they like the data, but the page 5 report will say in small print "a poll of readers in a national newspaper".
Even I can see it's a voodoo poll. Unless it's not. I'll get me coat! Good Night.
Might as well Baxter it
Tory Majority 62
C 356 L 258 UKIP 50 Lib 0
Those seat numbers do show how UKIP have the ability to inflict really serious damage on Labour with not a massive difference in voting intentions from the other polls
The Labour leader is facing mounting criticism over his sacking of shadow minister Emily Thornberry over her ‘snobby’ tweet of a family home draped in England flags last week.
Former welfare minister Frank Field said the incident was ‘the most serious thing that has happened’ to Labour - ‘because it gives vent to what everybody’s guts are telling them about us’.
Labour shadow cabinet minister Rachel Reeves added that the gaffe had harmed Labour's chances of winning the next election.
She said: 'I was angry when I saw it, because I am working hard, as are other Labour MPs and activists around the country, trying to get a Labour government back in six months time and she set that process back.'
It came after Mr Field accused the Labour leader of surrounding himself with a clique of wealthy out-of-touch aides and MPs who did not understand ordinary workers.
He said: ‘It’s the north London set we’ve got to control. They are a Berlin Wall trying to prevent us reaching out to our voters and like the Berlin Wall they’ve got to be demolished.'
Mr Field added: ‘Ed’s trying to move us on immigration and welfare and with one blast of a tweet she wrecks that and puts us back to square one. The real problem we have is that there’s a whole group of them.’
His remarks came as fellow Labour MP David Lammy - who grew up on a council estate close to Tottenham's infamous Broadwater Farm – said the party had ‘lost touch’ with ordinary voters.
He said: ‘By and large, modern Labour politicians come from liberal, professional backgrounds.
PLEASE don't take anything the Daily Express splashes with seriously. Presumably as with their weather 'forecasts' they just pay a pretend polling company to deliver news stories to order
A mockery of a poll which puts into question the very idea of a fair and balanced approach to statistics, again a travesty of Orwellian proportions.Why would the Tories be on 38?
I would really like to meet the Sun reader who thinks Natalie Bennett would make the best PM. They must have some seriously unusual thought patterns.
In the PB Rochester by-Election Prediction contest, somebody opted for an LD win by about 6%.
Attempts to flush him/her our has so far proved unsuccessful.
Mark Senior?
He'd be number one suspect, for sure.
Did you see the Aubosson race yesterday, given a superb ride by Lizzie Kelly? I had decent bet so was very happy with her, but fell in love when I saw her interviewed afterwards!
A mockery of a poll which puts into question the very idea of a fair and balanced approach to statistics, again a travesty of Orwellian proportions.Why would the Tories be on 38?
They would be climbing back to the level they were in January 2012?
A clever UKIP strategist will probably try to spread word of this poll, but in such a way that it doesn't appear to come from UKIP themselves, in the hope it might shift the "narrative" a bit.
Interesting: Frank Field says Thornberry's sacking is the most serious thing that has happened to Labour, and Peter Hitchens says the Tories' loss of Rochester is the worst thing that has ever happened to the Conservatives.
The Labour leader is facing mounting criticism over his sacking of shadow minister Emily Thornberry over her ‘snobby’ tweet of a family home draped in England flags last week.
Former welfare minister Frank Field said the incident was ‘the most serious thing that has happened’ to Labour - ‘because it gives vent to what everybody’s guts are telling them about us’.
Labour shadow cabinet minister Rachel Reeves added that the gaffe had harmed Labour's chances of winning the next election.
She said: 'I was angry when I saw it, because I am working hard, as are other Labour MPs and activists around the country, trying to get a Labour government back in six months time and she set that process back.'
It came after Mr Field accused the Labour leader of surrounding himself with a clique of wealthy out-of-touch aides and MPs who did not understand ordinary workers.
He said: ‘It’s the north London set we’ve got to control. They are a Berlin Wall trying to prevent us reaching out to our voters and like the Berlin Wall they’ve got to be demolished.'
Mr Field added: ‘Ed’s trying to move us on immigration and welfare and with one blast of a tweet she wrecks that and puts us back to square one. The real problem we have is that there’s a whole group of them.’
His remarks came as fellow Labour MP David Lammy - who grew up on a council estate close to Tottenham's infamous Broadwater Farm – said the party had ‘lost touch’ with ordinary voters.
He said: ‘By and large, modern Labour politicians come from liberal, professional backgrounds.
A clever UKIP strategist will probably try to spread word of this poll, but in such a way that it doesn't appear to come from UKIP themselves, in the hope it might shift the "narrative" a bit.
Problem for UKIP with these figures is it puts the Cons in a position that is too strong.
I was a poll of Political Betting Conservatives perhaps? 38% would vote Conservative, 28% Ukip (the real Conservative Party) and 25% tactically Labour (because Ed is so embarrassing they would never be in power again)
Interesting: Frank Field says Thornberry's sacking is the most serious thing that has happened to Labour, and Peter Hitchens says the Tories' loss of Rochester is the worst thing that has ever happened to the Conservatives.
The Labour leader is facing mounting criticism over his sacking of shadow minister Emily Thornberry over her ‘snobby’ tweet of a family home draped in England flags last week.
Former welfare minister Frank Field said the incident was ‘the most serious thing that has happened’ to Labour - ‘because it gives vent to what everybody’s guts are telling them about us’.
Labour shadow cabinet minister Rachel Reeves added that the gaffe had harmed Labour's chances of winning the next election.
She said: 'I was angry when I saw it, because I am working hard, as are other Labour MPs and activists around the country, trying to get a Labour government back in six months time and she set that process back.'
It came after Mr Field accused the Labour leader of surrounding himself with a clique of wealthy out-of-touch aides and MPs who did not understand ordinary workers.
He said: ‘It’s the north London set we’ve got to control. They are a Berlin Wall trying to prevent us reaching out to our voters and like the Berlin Wall they’ve got to be demolished.'
Mr Field added: ‘Ed’s trying to move us on immigration and welfare and with one blast of a tweet she wrecks that and puts us back to square one. The real problem we have is that there’s a whole group of them.’
His remarks came as fellow Labour MP David Lammy - who grew up on a council estate close to Tottenham's infamous Broadwater Farm – said the party had ‘lost touch’ with ordinary voters.
He said: ‘By and large, modern Labour politicians come from liberal, professional backgrounds.
Lord Ashcroft (@LordAshcroft) 23/11/2014 22:38 Nigel Farage is right – after Rochester all general election bets are off | Michael Ashcroft gu.com/p/43ha7/stw
Interesting: Frank Field says Thornberry's sacking is the most serious thing that has happened to Labour, and Peter Hitchens says the Tories' loss of Rochester is the worst thing that has ever happened to the Conservatives.
They both need to calm down with a nice cup of tea...
I would really like to meet the Sun reader who thinks Natalie Bennett would make the best PM. They must have some seriously unusual thought patterns.
In the PB Rochester by-Election Prediction contest, somebody opted for an LD win by about 6%.
Attempts to flush him/her our has so far proved unsuccessful.
Mark Senior?
He'd be number one suspect, for sure.
Did you see the Aubosson race yesterday, given a superb ride by Lizzie Kelly? I had decent bet so was very happy with her, but fell in love when I saw her interviewed afterwards!
Was out all day yesterday, so I watched it just now.
If you can identify a decent lady jockey early in her career, it's worth backing her whenever she gets a decent horse to ride. Some male punters refuse to back a horse ridden by a lady jock, so there's often an extra slice of value in the price.
I'll be watching out for Lizzie from now on. Thanks.
Strangely, this amazing new poll has failed to move the betting markets.
Does nobody take "The World's Greatest Newspaper" seriously?
There was a point in time at which the staunch support by the Express for UKIP helped to lend credibility to the latter, but we're well past that stage now, and I'd say that any association between the two is most likely to now lend credibility to the former, which desperately needs some from somewhere.
I would really like to meet the Sun reader who thinks Natalie Bennett would make the best PM. They must have some seriously unusual thought patterns.
I could imagine a lot of Sun readers believing that the last good Prime Minister of the UK was a woman, and that the four men since then have done pretty badly. It's not really such a huge leap from there to deciding to plump for the only woman in a field of men from upper middle class backgrounds. Plus she's an Aussie.
Strangely, this amazing new poll has failed to move the betting markets.
Does nobody take "The World's Greatest Newspaper" seriously?
There was a point in time at which the staunch support by the Express for UKIP helped to lend credibility to the latter, but we're well past that stage now, and I'd say that any association between the two is most likely to now lend credibility to the former, which desperately needs some from somewhere.
I'm old enough to remember when it could reasonably claim to be a great newspaper and was locked in a circulation war with The Mirror. Sad to see what's happened to them both now.
Looks like we have to wait a while for YouGov Sun on Sunday tables, but here's the ELBOW (Electoral Leader-Board Of the Week) data including the Sunday Times YG. 10 polls with a total weighted sample of 13,319:
Ever so close to cross-over, but no cigar! Cons edge up slowly, but surely, for third week in a row. UKIP down slightly, but down for third week in a row. LDs down to their lowest score yet in ELBOW (ie. since August 17th) Lab stuck around 33% for the last five weeks.
I noticed at PMQ's,cameron could be throwing some sweeteners the way on baron's pet and worthwhile subject of compensation for british nuclear test veterans.
Looks like we have to wait a while for YouGov Sun on Sunday tables, but here's the ELBOW (Electoral Leader-Board Of the Week) data including the Sunday Times YG. 10 polls with a total weighted sample of 13,319:
Ever so close to cross-over, but no cigar! Cons edge up slowly, but surely, for third week in a row. UKIP down slightly, but down for third week in a row. LDs down to their lowest score yet in ELBOW (ie. since August 17th) Lab stuck around 33% for the last five weeks.
Labour are doomed, doomed.
Like the USS Grissom versus a Klingon Bird of Prey.
Looks like we have to wait a while for YouGov Sun on Sunday tables, but here's the ELBOW (Electoral Leader-Board Of the Week) data including the Sunday Times YG. 10 polls with a total weighted sample of 13,319:
Ever so close to cross-over, but no cigar! Cons edge up slowly, but surely, for third week in a row. UKIP down slightly, but down for third week in a row. LDs down to their lowest score yet in ELBOW (ie. since August 17th) Lab stuck around 33% for the last five weeks.
Labour are doomed, doomed.
Like the USS Grissom versus a Klingon Bird of Prey.
Kruge: I said target engine only! Gunner: A lucky hit, sir! Kruge: [after vaporising him with ray gun] Animal!
Looks like we have to wait a while for YouGov Sun on Sunday tables, but here's the ELBOW (Electoral Leader-Board Of the Week) data including the Sunday Times YG. 10 polls with a total weighted sample of 13,319:
Ever so close to cross-over, but no cigar! Cons edge up slowly, but surely, for third week in a row. UKIP down slightly, but down for third week in a row. LDs down to their lowest score yet in ELBOW (ie. since August 17th) Lab stuck around 33% for the last five weeks.
Strangely, this amazing new poll has failed to move the betting markets.
Does nobody take "The World's Greatest Newspaper" seriously?
There was a point in time at which the staunch support by the Express for UKIP helped to lend credibility to the latter, but we're well past that stage now, and I'd say that any association between the two is most likely to now lend credibility to the former, which desperately needs some from somewhere.
I'm old enough to remember when it could reasonably claim to be a great newspaper and was locked in a circulation war with The Mirror. Sad to see what's happened to them both now.
Mike Smithson** is what happened to them. He's also busy vanquishing the Guardian and the Independent.
** Not entirely single-handedly, but with a bit of help from his friends.
Interesting: Frank Field says Thornberry's sacking is the most serious thing that has happened to Labour, and Peter Hitchens says the Tories' loss of Rochester is the worst thing that has ever happened to the Conservatives.
They both need to calm down with a nice cup of tea...
What White Van Man wants: builders tea
What Labour offers him: A detox herbal green tea infusion....
Looks like we have to wait a while for YouGov Sun on Sunday tables, but here's the ELBOW (Electoral Leader-Board Of the Week) data including the Sunday Times YG. 10 polls with a total weighted sample of 13,319:
Ever so close to cross-over, but no cigar! Cons edge up slowly, but surely, for third week in a row. UKIP down slightly, but down for third week in a row. LDs down to their lowest score yet in ELBOW (ie. since August 17th) Lab stuck around 33% for the last five weeks.
Tories to go ahead during the next week I reckon.
I'll Tweet the graph tomorrow hopefully, once I get the Sun on Sunday YG data. TBH don't think the numbers will change too much.
Looks like we have to wait a while for YouGov Sun on Sunday tables, but here's the ELBOW (Electoral Leader-Board Of the Week) data including the Sunday Times YG. 10 polls with a total weighted sample of 13,319:
Ever so close to cross-over, but no cigar! Cons edge up slowly, but surely, for third week in a row. UKIP down slightly, but down for third week in a row. LDs down to their lowest score yet in ELBOW (ie. since August 17th) Lab stuck around 33% for the last five weeks.
Tories to go ahead during the next week I reckon.
Be fun to try and identify which seats will now/will no longer change hands as a result of these weekly changes....
I would really like to meet the Sun reader who thinks Natalie Bennett would make the best PM. They must have some seriously unusual thought patterns.
In the PB Rochester by-Election Prediction contest, somebody opted for an LD win by about 6%.
Attempts to flush him/her our has so far proved unsuccessful.
No, whoever it was owned up and gave a convoluted version of their 'thinking'. Certain 'players' on this site wanted to have side bets with him on the 'candy and baby' principle.
I would really like to meet the Sun reader who thinks Natalie Bennett would make the best PM. They must have some seriously unusual thought patterns.
In the PB Rochester by-Election Prediction contest, somebody opted for an LD win by about 6%.
Attempts to flush him/her our has so far proved unsuccessful.
No, whoever it was owned up and gave a convoluted version of their 'thinking'. Certain 'players' on this site wanted to have side bets with him on the 'candy and baby' principle.
Point of order - might YOUGOV not be a bit miffed - if ths is the Sun readers Yougov poll - it's not "voodoo" - but a perfectly proper poll of a subset of the population - Sun readers?
Because we don't have any other polls to compare it with its essentially useless beyond the narrow confines of telling us how Sun readers would vote, but it's not "voodoo"? (Which I thought were typically unweighted "vote now" online polls)?
Express article now up (ipad refusing to post link) - while the Express is coy about the source - and does concede "more general surveys have Labour second or tied with the Tories" (or indeed in first place!) it's the Sun numbers.
Politicians really should learn not to give stupid hostages to fortune (or as they are otherwise known "lies") especially when they are obviously going to get rumbled before the election. As Sir Humphrey said "We should always tell the press freely and frankly anything that they could easily find out some other way."
Coalition abandons target to reduce migration The Government will fail to slash the overall number of migrants as planned because Britain's strong economic performance continues to lure European workers, says Theresa May
This can hardly come as a big shock, its been obvious for atleast a year that we were going to outperform the EU. Seems to be a good week to bury bad news.
"lure of jihadism must be combated by restoring British values." according to Ms May, apparently this means eroding free speech, increasing snooping, and restricting access to the internet in ways that have no hope of being effective.
Did the Coalition acttually get around to having a migration target? I thought it was one of those “we don’t agrqee, so we won’t tlke about it” subjects.
I remember that there was a Tory pledge.
Which I thought at the time was unachievable, but which, delivered with the best of PR gravitas from Dave, made a good soundbite.
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Interesting, would feed the Ed is crap meme
But I'd exercise caution, it could be a voodoo poll.
Could trouble a few Labourites in the deepest, darkest recesses of their souls (despite their brains agreeing with TSE).
But is it too late to do anything. Perhaps they could coronate St. Vince as their new leader? *innocent face*
https://twitter.com/search?q=ukip 28%&src=typd
http://tapnewswire.com/2014/11/the-real-split-in-the-british-vote-is-peeping-out-here-and-there-ukip-might-be-far-further-ahead-than-polls-are-saying/
He became a Voodoo Pole!
(I thank you!)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3HUSjQIAAAKfji.jpg
The average Englishman drew two conclusions from the referendum campaign. First, that the Scots are obsessed by non-existent grievances. Second, that they do not seem to like the English. At a recent international soccer match in Switzerland, the English fans yelled “---- off, Scotland!”. They would not have done that three months earlier. Having started, they may not stop in a hurry. They will also be ready to insist on fairness.
Thirty-seven years ago, the West Lothian question was posed by Tam Dalyell and christened by Enoch Powell. Why should Scottish MPs be able to move on English matters when English MPs have no such rights in Scotland? No one has found a solution. Lord Chancellor Derry Irvine came closest: “The best answer to the West Lothian question is to stop asking it.” That was an admirable essay in defiance, brutality and cynicism. It was not an answer. Now, the Tories have come up with one: Evel – English votes for English laws. Ed Miliband will have to oppose it. Without his Scottish MPs – assuming that the Nats do not unseat them all – he could not form a government. So he will have to set his face against fairness. In England, that could be disastrous. '
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/11246201/The-clock-is-ticking-after-Rochester-but-the-Tories-can-still-win-the-day.html
http://politicalbetting.s3.amazonaws.com/polldunce.jpg
I'll get me coat! Good Night.
As there has been none....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage/11247616/Nigel-Farage-I-wont-go-on-for-ever-as-leader.html
Tory Majority 62
C 356
L 258
UKIP 50
Lib 0
Those seat numbers do show how UKIP have the ability to inflict really serious damage on Labour with not a massive difference in voting intentions from the other polls
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ed-miliband/11247609/Emily-Thornberry-row-MPs-like-Ed-Miliband-are-out-of-touch-says-Hazel-Blears.html
Former welfare minister Frank Field said the incident was ‘the most serious thing that has happened’ to Labour - ‘because it gives vent to what everybody’s guts are telling them about us’.
Labour shadow cabinet minister Rachel Reeves added that the gaffe had harmed Labour's chances of winning the next election.
She said: 'I was angry when I saw it, because I am working hard, as are other Labour MPs and activists around the country, trying to get a Labour government back in six months time and she set that process back.'
It came after Mr Field accused the Labour leader of surrounding himself with a clique of wealthy out-of-touch aides and MPs who did not understand ordinary workers.
He said: ‘It’s the north London set we’ve got to control. They are a Berlin Wall trying to prevent us reaching out to our voters and like the Berlin Wall they’ve got to be demolished.'
Mr Field added: ‘Ed’s trying to move us on immigration and welfare and with one blast of a tweet she wrecks that and puts us back to square one. The real problem we have is that there’s a whole group of them.’
His remarks came as fellow Labour MP David Lammy - who grew up on a council estate close to Tottenham's infamous Broadwater Farm – said the party had ‘lost touch’ with ordinary voters.
He said: ‘By and large, modern Labour politicians come from liberal, professional backgrounds.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2846174/
Attempts to flush him/her our has so far proved unsuccessful.
Just not part of their normal sequence and no use for any purpose beyond measuring shifts in voting patterns of newspaper readers.
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/comment/columns/dominiclawson/article1486727.ece
I just haven't worked out which party will be in third place.
Supporting UKIP has more personal stigma than the other parties
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/11/21/supporting-ukip-has-more-personal-stigma-than-the/
Does nobody take "The World's Greatest Newspaper" seriously?
And I know this is a vodoo poll.
When rumours emerged there was a poll about to break to show the Lib Dems in second place.
That was a crazy time for betting.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11246231/Lets-embrace-the-German-giant-on-our-doorstep.html
America needs its 'Trojan horse' to stay in the EU
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/newsreview/features/article1486628.ece
23/11/2014 22:38
Nigel Farage is right – after Rochester all general election bets are off | Michael Ashcroft gu.com/p/43ha7/stw
If you can identify a decent lady jockey early in her career, it's worth backing her whenever she gets a decent horse to ride. Some male punters refuse to back a horse ridden by a lady jock, so there's often an extra slice of value in the price.
I'll be watching out for Lizzie from now on. Thanks.
Lol! Only teasing, Mark. I'm sure you can take it.
Exactly.
Just how much diet coke have you drunk tonite?
Nite all.
Looks like we have to wait a while for YouGov Sun on Sunday tables, but here's the ELBOW (Electoral Leader-Board Of the Week) data including the Sunday Times YG.
10 polls with a total weighted sample of 13,319:
Lab 33.3% (-0.2)
Con 32.9% (+0.8)
UKIP 15.4% (-0.2)
LD 7.0% (-0.8)
**Lab lead 0.4% (-1.0)**
Ever so close to cross-over, but no cigar!
Cons edge up slowly, but surely, for third week in a row.
UKIP down slightly, but down for third week in a row.
LDs down to their lowest score yet in ELBOW (ie. since August 17th)
Lab stuck around 33% for the last five weeks.
Like the USS Grissom versus a Klingon Bird of Prey.
Gunner: A lucky hit, sir!
Kruge: [after vaporising him with ray gun] Animal!
** Not entirely single-handedly, but with a bit of help from his friends.
What Labour offers him: A detox herbal green tea infusion....
I thought threads like these are reserved for proper opinion polls.
As such I'm embargoing this silly voodoo poll thread.
This is a disgrace, a thread about a Daily Express front page of a poll of The Sun readers, expletive deleted.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2844054/EU-hand-half-powers-member-states-risk-exploding-warns-Nicolas-Sarkozy.html
"If candidates from the following parties were standing in your constituency and had a chance of winning, how likely would you be to vote for them?"
Con 35%, Lab 35%, Green 26%, UKIP 24%, LD 16%
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/11/20/greens-would-soar-if-voters-thought-they-could-win/
Because we don't have any other polls to compare it with its essentially useless beyond the narrow confines of telling us how Sun readers would vote, but it's not "voodoo"? (Which I thought were typically unweighted "vote now" online polls)?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11249333/Coalition-abandons-target-to-reduce-migration.html
Coalition abandons target to reduce migration
The Government will fail to slash the overall number of migrants as planned because Britain's strong economic performance continues to lure European workers, says Theresa May
This can hardly come as a big shock, its been obvious for atleast a year that we were going to outperform the EU. Seems to be a good week to bury bad news.
"lure of jihadism must be combated by restoring British values." according to Ms May, apparently this means eroding free speech, increasing snooping, and restricting access to the internet in ways that have no hope of being effective.
I remember that there was a Tory pledge.
Which I thought at the time was unachievable, but which, delivered with the best of PR gravitas from Dave, made a good soundbite.