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Ukip and Labour too high and Conservatives a little shy.
Oh, and one of the schools was funded with taxes too.
A nation awaits ....
@paulhutcheon: I reckon the @scottishlabour hustings on the BBC tomorrow will now be lively...
Yeehah! Third try from Oz.
Do the fans still want Allardyce sacked? :-)
Are we expecting any polls tonight?
But we were 4th a couple of weeks back!
"In other words, it was an honest Tweet from a middle class politician who like almost all other middle class politicians from all parties spends almost no time with people who fly flags out of their windows, drive white vans and are covered in tattoos. "
Just roll the beauty of that post around for a while and admire the design, style and technicolor hypocriscsy. The denigration of the white van man continues as someone of lesser worth than them goes to show this is how the left all think. Yet they want their votes while accusing Tories and UKIP and others of being out of touch in a similar way in a vain attempt to spread the blame as far as possible.. Its quite simply utterly laughable.
We all also know for sure that had a Tory , Kipper or another tweeted this photo then these same lefties just like SObs would be ripping the into them without mercy or making lame excuses like this. I don't mind it they did rip into the person its just tthe utter hypocritical positioning that the left always take that gets me.
In early 1947, Britain announced the decision to end its rule in India. In June 1947, the nationalist leaders of British India—including Jawaharlal Nehru and Abul Kalam Azad representing the Congress, Jinnah representing the Muslim League, and Master Tara Singh representing the Sikhs—agreed to the proposed terms of transfer of power and independence.
The modern state of Pakistan was established on 14 August 1947 (27 Ramadan 1366 in the Islamic Calendar) in the eastern and northwestern regions of British India, where there was a Muslim majority.
So basically the British agreed to independence and Pakistan (Jinnah) and India (Jawaharlal Nehru and Abul Kalam Azad) got on with partitioning.
That's my reading of it but as I say Wiki is not the best source but it is quick!
So technically India :-)
A century ago I would have agreed with you about British liberal democracy, but compulsory western degeneracy is not the way to deal with islamism.
Militant Islamism in the UK is in part another strand of the same phenomenom as UKIP is now and Mary Whitehouse and her supporters were thirty years ago - a rejection of the utter moral degeneracy of our (and the rest of the wests) ruling elite and the culture they have foisted on the rest of us since the dreaded Roy Jenkins became home secretary in the '60s.
And as for 'me and mosquitos' since I didn't raise the point - you're the one who is laughably wrong.....
India was granted Independence on the 15th.
So - Pakistan didn't secede from an independent India.
Simples
Wiki also has this that might be of interest:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-nation_theory
Lib Dem Conference .... attendance about 100
Radical Independence.... attendance over 3000
SNP .............................. attendance 12000 and waiting list for tickets
Your argument does nothing to refute the argument that the people of the British Isles could/should be considered a race.
Immigration does not eradicate the existing population's race unless we're talking about ethnic cleansing at the same time, which we're not.
My point was it's political, it's not based on evidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doHWn84loBc
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Bob Geldof was paid $100,000 to give a talk on poverty in Australia. Awkward. http://m.adelaidenow.com.au/news/for-geldofs-poverty-talk/story-e6freo8c-1111118043626?nk=d34fd31797ae5d22dfb925e709a5e718 … … #BandAid30
Tony Blair will learn him.
I wanted to comment on David's piece in the previous thread but as I have a life I've only just got back to Stodge Towers.
David's piece may be about UKIP now but it could have been almost word-for-word about the Alliance in the 1980s. Inevitably, any "third" Party has to define itself with reference to the two traditional major parties whether they draw their support primarily from the one or the other. The "plan" for the Alliance was to supplant Labour and then directly challenge the Conservatives and there was plenty of evidence that once the threat of Labour had been seen to be erased, many Tories would gladly abandon their Party for the Alliance - I saw this first-hand canvassing at Greenwich.
In truth, the duopoly supports each other - the "fear" of the other side is used to keep the voters in check. If that fear was permanently erased, the duopoly would be in real trouble. Indeed, the combination of the fall of Communism and the successful conversion of Labour by Tony Blair to a non-socialist party of the centre or centre-left enabled it to reap millions of ex-Tory votes who no longer believed that voting Labour would usher in a period of darkness.
UKIP has to contend with that - yes, it has its converts who will stay fierecely loyal but for others tempted the "fear" that by voting for Farage they will allow the opponent to win will be very strong. Ultimately, the LDs could never break that spell - the SNP on the other hand has shown what an insurgant Party CAN achieve - and frankly I suspect Farage won't succeed either.
The other truth is that the Labour and Conservative Parties have a symbiotic relationship - without the one, the other will not endure.
Some historians have claimed that the theory was a creation of a few Muslim intellectuals.[36] Prominent Pakistani politician Altaf Hussain of Muttahida Qaumi Movement believes history has proved the two-nation theory wrong.[37] He contended, "The idea of Pakistan was dead at its inception, when the majority of Muslims (in Muslim-minority areas of India) chose to stay back after partition, a truism reiterated in the creation of Bangladesh in 1971.[38]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-nation_theory
Here's a good article about the lack of inevitability of partition:
http://www.outlookindia.com/article/What-If-Attlee-Hadnt-Partitioned-India/287314
The "Imperial Senate" in the Star Wars galaxy would then have been based on a true earth-based counterpart
Markets are up. I'm rather tired, though, so I might leave it until tomorrow, unless something jumps out at me [though I'd prefer to get the pre-race article up today].
Red Bull excluded from qualifying.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/30161617
I'm unhappy about the British Isles being disunited.
You could have government that circulated the capitals every few years with days for 'local' issues to be discussed, keep everyone happy.
A federation of the British Isles and North America could have worked. Australia and New Zealand were too far away.
http://enormo-haddock.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/abu-dhabi-pre-race.html
Of course, he could end up failing horrendously, and I'll look as silly as a mongoose wearing a fez. But then, that's why it's called gambling, rather than prudent investment
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Yet I'm not blind to the disparities - they existed in the 1970s when the likes of Spain, Portugal and Greece emerged from decades of dictatorship into democracy and wanted to secure that democracy within the EEC. Even then, their economies lagged far behind those of France, West Germany and the UK. Even within countries like France and Italy, there were and remain huge regional differences.
I've often said on here that conservatives, socialists and liberals, for their own seasons, misunderstood and misrepresented the events of 1989-90 just as they had the events of 1918-19. We could and should have done so much better but what we have now is infinitely better than militarily antagonistic power blocs across Europe and hundreds of tanks favcing each other a couple of hours drive from the Rhine.
The EU is flawed - no question. Had it never come into being or if it fell apart now, what would be the consequence ?
Hamilton must hope the Williams' don't start well. Weirdly, only one of the five races to date have been won by the chap on pole.
Anyway, I am off.
What a ghastly party Labour are.
That said, we didn't run into any doorstep flak today - 300-odd contacts in a WWC ward (Kimberley), plenty of Labour and not much UKIP. Two people mentioned Flaggate, but both were Labour loyalists grumbling that it was a distraction. If anything special is happening, we didn't detect it.
No excuse: you need to come to our exhibition of Burnley's finest art when it opens in January
Also by my calculations (which are sometimes correct!), India would now be only 38% of the population including all current Commonwealth states, the USA, other currently non-Commonwealth English-speaking states and the EU - yes, even the EU has English as an official language, so it would qualify
EDIT: Also the digital age would make communication and adminstration much easier.
It's about 60,000 Scots deciding that they didn't do enough to help make Independence happen, and signing up to be members of the SNP (or Scottish Greens) as the most obvious first step to making sure that they do everything they can to win the next referendum.
"Mr Reckless, who successfully defended his Rochester and Strood seat this week after defecting, said the damage inflicted by his new party on the Tories next May would be "small if any"."
The European Union did not end the Cold War. The failure of the Soviet state and Reagan restarting an arms race they couldn't keep up with did. I think it's unforeseeable for there not to be some form of European community in an alternative scenario. It's just the level of integration that was up for debate.
Labour now moving into mega "China Syndrome"meltdown mode. Quite staggering that it has all fallen apart over one twittered photo. They will never survive months on the hustings, they just won't.
Sunday Telegraph
Emily Thornberry row: MPs like Ed Miliband are out of touch, says Hazel Blears
Career politicians like Ed Miliband are out of touch with voters because they lack experience outside Westminster, Hazel Blears warns, after Emily Thornberry's resignation over her 'sneering' white van man tweet
#SaveEd#WeLoveEd
Both the EU and COMECON were the instruments by which the respective controlling superpower of their part of Europe enforced collaboration and co-operation. Inevitably, the American model was primarily economic and equally inevitably the Soviet model was political.
The economic model had to work because it guaranteed liberal democracy through prosperity whereas the failure of post-WW1 democracy across Europe was the result of economic failure and as we see now economic failure and insecurity provides a direct political challenge to the liberal democratic and capitalist model. When the Iberian dictatorships collapsed in the 1970s, they turned to the economic model of the EEC as a bulwark against the potential threat of Communist political subversion.
My family come from that part of Lancs where they have a Lib Dem MP who is going to hold his seat next May.
It's perhaps just as well that Paddy Power didn't choose to settle those bets placed on the Clarets being relegated in much the same manner as he declared Chelsea Premier League Champions yesterday.
I largely agree with your last paragraph, but I think all that would have been possible without "ever closer union". A close community of nations along the British preferred model could have been great, and we'd have avoided the human misery of the Eurozone crisis (six years and counting...)
From Cotton to Gold: the Hidden Collections of the Industrial Northwest
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Sunil Prasannan @Sunil_P2 · 23m 23 minutes ago
Bar chart of all Great Britain by-election results since GE 2010 (updated for Rochester & Strood)
https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/536231914646929409
Snp 5 Greens 4
We will see the same if and when the Koreas re-unite but on a much larger level.
The argument in 1989-90 was that it was somehow necessary to tether the post-Communist states of Eastern Europe to the western economic and security model (with all the problems that is now causing). Conservatives saw the emerging Eastern European countries as a bulwark against federalism (i.e: the dominant Franco-German Axis) so wanted them in the EU to dilute that (which it hasn't).
It was the same argument used about Spain, Portugal and Greece in the 1970s and about Turkey now. Nobody either recognised or cared about the economic disparities and the problems they would cause then and it's only now that people have started to realise what the consequence of poor policy-making has been.
So we can really blame the disaster of partition on the Indians and the Labour government.