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  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441

    "Whatever james, just stick a white hood over your head and cut a couple of eyeholes."

    Being a liar clearly isn't enough for you, Alan. Yes, you've now reached "beneath contempt". Well done on your contribution to making PB what it is today.

    Do you get a bulk discount when you buy burning crosses ?
  • JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    "Do you get a bulk discount when you buy burning crosses ?"

    Ah, the delights of PB. You can get away with calling me a member of the Ku Klux Klan, while Stuart Dickson gets banned for calling a post "pure comedy gold". Seems perfectly fair.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441

    "to be fair James dislikes the Irish too."

    Do you know your main problem, Alan? You're a liar.


    james, about a month ago you denied any connection with Ireland on the grounds you were 100% scottish. You vehemently denied any connection with Ireland. We shan't be sending you an invite for the Gathering this year. Your loss not ours.
    To be fair, vehemently denying you are something does not mean you dislike it. I would vehemently deny I am Dutch - because of course I am not - but that doesn't mean I don't think it is a fantastic country.
    To be fair james can't make up his mind if he dislikes Irish heritage or is denying it. personally I rhink it's one of the best backgrounds going, but I'm biased.
  • FluffyThoughtsFluffyThoughts Posts: 2,420

    Or, just maybe, someone wrote a nice piece of software that allowed them to integrate the remote mdbs into a CS-3 solution? And added some reporting so they could monitor the outcomes...?

    Of course it would have only allowed them to stream-line reporting and accountability (and not their base product). I also bet that the 'muppet' turned-up one Saturday (with Ravi) wearing a CAFC top....

  • JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    "To be fair james can't make up his mind if he dislikes Irish heritage or is denying it"

    And that's another lie. Don't worry, Alan, if you're not even aware that you're lying, I'll keep setting you straight.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441

    "Do you get a bulk discount when you buy burning crosses ?"

    Ah, the delights of PB. You can get away with calling me a member of the Ku Klux Klan, while Stuart Dickson gets banned for calling a post "pure comedy gold". Seems perfectly fair.

    Mr KKKelly you played your own part in getting Stuart banned.
  • JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    "Mr KKKelly"

    Could I just congratulate the moderators for allowing this to go on. We'd hate PB to be getting the wrong sort of reputation.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441

    "Mr KKKelly"

    Could I just congratulate the moderators for allowing this to go on. We'd hate PB to be getting the wrong sort of reputation.

    I take it your own blog's a bit lacking in traffic then ?
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,627

    Socrates said:

    @tim

    The problem with that analysis is that it assumes GCSE results are the be-all and end-all for being successful. The reality is that grammar schools are very good at giving people from all background the broader set of skills needed to be successful at university and in employment.

    There is nothing that is done in a grammar school that cannot be done with streaming from Year 7 in comprehensive schools. I support the theory behind grammar schools, but in practice cannot see how they would not discriminate against those from wealthier backgrounds. Look at the living tutors make in areas where there is still a grammar system.

    That's nonsense, in NI private education is for the cream of Ulster society, the rich and thick. The issue on grammar schools in England is they have been butchered to cater for about 2% of the population instead of as previously 30% of the population. England has vastly restricted social mobility as a result.

    That was not the experience in England.

    Perhaps the solution is to abandon the 11 plus as the means of selection.

    That I think would be a good idea. We all know that some children develop more slowly than others educationally so there should be the ability to enter the Grammar school system at a later point as a result of improving performance.
  • ZenPaganZenPagan Posts: 689

    "I personally don't wear a left or right badge of pride. If I believe an idea is right I say so regardless of where it comes from, likewise if an idea is wrong I make no bones about saying so regardless of origin. "

    Could you direct me to an occasion when you have a trashed a right-wing viewpoint, and labelled its proponents as "ranting Tories"?

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/32474/#Comment_32474

    I had a disagreement with Charles in this thread, I think he probably counts as a Tory?

    In addition I have had a few spats with the PB tories on amongst other topics, the lack of a quango bonfire, civil liberties, gay marriage and elitism

  • JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    "I take it your own blog's a bit lacking in traffic then ?"

    Hardly - it's reached unprecedented levels over the last two months, and was recently voted one of Scotland's top ten political websites.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441

    Socrates said:

    @tim

    The problem with that analysis is that it assumes GCSE results are the be-all and end-all for being successful. The reality is that grammar schools are very good at giving people from all background the broader set of skills needed to be successful at university and in employment.

    There is nothing that is done in a grammar school that cannot be done with streaming from Year 7 in comprehensive schools. I support the theory behind grammar schools, but in practice cannot see how they would not discriminate against those from wealthier backgrounds. Look at the living tutors make in areas where there is still a grammar system.

    That's nonsense, in NI private education is for the cream of Ulster society, the rich and thick. The issue on grammar schools in England is they have been butchered to cater for about 2% of the population instead of as previously 30% of the population. England has vastly restricted social mobility as a result.

    That was not the experience in England.

    Perhaps the solution is to abandon the 11 plus as the means of selection.

    That I think would be a good idea. We all know that some children develop more slowly than others educationally so there should be the ability to enter the Grammar school system at a later point as a result of improving performance.
    I thought 13 was the age when most of the imbalances evened out, which is why several counties operate the middle school system ?
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,627
    edited May 2013
    I obviously stand to be corrected but I don't think I ever remember James making a serious post (as opposed to the occasional joke which we are all guilty of) that could be considered offensively anti-English.
  • JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    "In addition I have had a few spats with the PB tories on amongst other topics, the lack of a quango bonfire, civil liberties, gay marriage and elitism"

    But were you attacking them from the left? Are you in favour of gay marriage, or opposed to it - ie. are you even more right-wing than the Tory leadership?
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441
    edited May 2013

    "I take it your own blog's a bit lacking in traffic then ?"

    Hardly - it's reached unprecedented levels over the last two months, and was recently voted one of Scotland's top ten political websites.

    There's not exactly a mountain of competition.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,395
    Tim - Rubbish, otherwise why are selective Bucks and Trafford in the top 10 authorities for GCSE results and both are selective
  • JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    edited May 2013
    "There's not exactly a mountain of competition."

    You're very much an adherent of the shrug shoulders and say "tut" school of playground insult, aren't you Alan?
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,627

    Socrates said:

    @tim

    The problem with that analysis is that it assumes GCSE results are the be-all and end-all for being successful. The reality is that grammar schools are very good at giving people from all background the broader set of skills needed to be successful at university and in employment.

    There is nothing that is done in a grammar school that cannot be done with streaming from Year 7 in comprehensive schools. I support the theory behind grammar schools, but in practice cannot see how they would not discriminate against those from wealthier backgrounds. Look at the living tutors make in areas where there is still a grammar system.

    That's nonsense, in NI private education is for the cream of Ulster society, the rich and thick. The issue on grammar schools in England is they have been butchered to cater for about 2% of the population instead of as previously 30% of the population. England has vastly restricted social mobility as a result.

    That was not the experience in England.

    Perhaps the solution is to abandon the 11 plus as the means of selection.

    That I think would be a good idea. We all know that some children develop more slowly than others educationally so there should be the ability to enter the Grammar school system at a later point as a result of improving performance.
    I thought 13 was the age when most of the imbalances evened out, which is why several counties operate the middle school system ?
    I know that used to be the system but I don't know if anywhere still does that. Certainly Lincolnshire uses the 11+
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441

    "There's not exactly a mountain of competition."

    You're very much the shrug shoulders and say "tut" school of playground insult, aren't you Alan?

    well let's face it James it's like saying you've come fifth in school sports day. Much as I enjoy your flights of fantasy on PB, I assume the level of challenging intellectual debate on your own blog isn't exactly keeping you tied to your keyboard.
  • JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    "Much as I enjoy your flights of fantasy on PB, I assume the level of challenging intellectual debate on your own blog isn't exactly keeping you tied to your keyboard."

    I wish that were true, but in fact I recently made an open call for new contributors because I knew I wasn't going to be able to keep the pace up indefinitely. It's very, very time-consuming to write a blog like that - you should try it before sneering, Alan.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,962
    I went to Grammar School and it didn't do me any harm!
    [Sunil says, twitching nervously]
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441

    Socrates said:

    @tim

    The problem with that analysis is that it assumes GCSE results are the be-all and end-all for being successful. The reality is that grammar schools are very good at giving people from all background the broader set of skills needed to be successful at university and in employment.

    There is nothing that is done in a grammar school that cannot be done with streaming from Year 7 in comprehensive schools. I support the theory behind grammar schools, but in practice cannot see how they would not discriminate against those from wealthier backgrounds. Look at the living tutors make in areas where there is still a grammar system.

    That's nonsense, in NI private education is for the cream of Ulster society, the rich and thick. The issue on grammar schools in England is they have been butchered to cater for about 2% of the population instead of as previously 30% of the population. England has vastly restricted social mobility as a result.

    That was not the experience in England.

    Perhaps the solution is to abandon the 11 plus as the means of selection.

    That I think would be a good idea. We all know that some children develop more slowly than others educationally so there should be the ability to enter the Grammar school system at a later point as a result of improving performance.
    I thought 13 was the age when most of the imbalances evened out, which is why several counties operate the middle school system ?
    I know that used to be the system but I don't know if anywhere still does that. Certainly Lincolnshire uses the 11+
    In Worcestershire some schools are still using the middle school system.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    It wouldn't be surprising if some kind of error is uncovered in this ComRes Euro poll to explain how the LDs are on 18% when they only got 13.7% last time when a lot of Labour supporters were voting LD as a protest.
  • ZenPaganZenPagan Posts: 689

    "In addition I have had a few spats with the PB tories on amongst other topics, the lack of a quango bonfire, civil liberties, gay marriage and elitism"

    But were you attacking them from the left? Are you in favour of gay marriage, or opposed to it - ie. are you even more right-wing than the Tory leadership?

    On marriage in general as I don't distinguish between any form frankly I think the state shouldn't be in the business of legislating at all. 2 or more consenting adults should be able to visit a solicitor and either pick up an off the shelf contract or draw up their own more specialised contract. Then pick the ceremony of their choice whether civil,none or religous (if the religion is happy to perform it). The courts can then enforce it just as any other contract.

    There is absolutely no need for the state to be sanctioning relationships between consenting adults other than the issue of incest and even then the state should only be insisting on the lack of children.

    Left? Right? Who cares its what I think and I suspect people of both sides would argue it is the other sides point of view, or their own dependent on their bias to or for this sort of thing.

  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441

    "Much as I enjoy your flights of fantasy on PB, I assume the level of challenging intellectual debate on your own blog isn't exactly keeping you tied to your keyboard."

    I wish that were true, but in fact I recently made an open call for new contributors because I knew I wasn't going to be able to keep the pace up indefinitely. It's very, very time-consuming to write a blog like that - you should try it before sneering, Alan.

    Most blogs fold. If you're running out of ideas you'll fold sometime shortly after 2014.
  • JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    "Most blogs fold. If you're running out of ideas you'll fold sometime shortly after 2014."

    You may well be right. There's not much use for a pro-independence blog in a country that's just voted for independence.
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    @ZenPagan

    What about when Person A in a marriage gives up work in order to look after A & B's children. It's a good idea that Person A can receive Person B's pension should Person B's children, but without marriage law, that wouldn't happen.
  • JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    By the way, I'm waiting with bated breath to discover why Moniker has just done the following two Google searches from his villa in Sesto San Giovanni -

    "james kelly scots more egalitarian"

    "james kelly scot goes pop nigel farage"
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792

    "Much as I enjoy your flights of fantasy on PB, I assume the level of challenging intellectual debate on your own blog isn't exactly keeping you tied to your keyboard."

    I wish that were true, but in fact I recently made an open call for new contributors because I knew I wasn't going to be able to keep the pace up indefinitely. It's very, very time-consuming to write a blog like that - you should try it before sneering, Alan.

    You should devote more time to your blog and stop trying to catch some reflected glory from PB.

  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    tim said:

    @MaajidNawaz: #EDL fascist @edininfidel calls for beheading of Muslim school children. Incitement to murder & right-wing terrorism https://t.co/Erk3UTpbRW

    Two peas in a pod the EDL and the Al Muhajiroun franchise, feeding off each other

    That's a new low, even by the EDL's standards.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441

    "Most blogs fold. If you're running out of ideas you'll fold sometime shortly after 2014."

    You may well be right. There's not much use for a pro-independence blog in a country that's just voted for independence.

    You'll still fold when it doesn't. Blog economics are defined by the well financed and the fanatics. I don't look at SGP for information of the independence debate.
  • JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    "You should devote more time to your blog and stop trying to catch some reflected glory from PB."

    Send him victorious!
    Happy and glorious!
    Long to impose TSE on us!
    God save Our Genial Host!
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    A local grammar school for local people.
  • ZenPaganZenPagan Posts: 689
    edited May 2013
    Socrates said:

    @ZenPagan

    What about when Person A in a marriage gives up work in order to look after A & B's children. It's a good idea that Person A can receive Person B's pension should Person B's children, but without marriage law, that wouldn't happen.

    Easy enough when they replace the statutes with contracts the contract amongst other things should deal with property disposal,custody and pension type benefits. Your pension should specify what your spouse gets in the event of your demise, the contract merely states how that is to be allocated....ie 50% of the spouses benefit for each of the two husbands if you were having a three way marriage.

    You don't need marriage laws for any of that

  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792

    "You should devote more time to your blog and stop trying to catch some reflected glory from PB."

    Send him victorious!
    Happy and glorious!
    Long to impose TSE on us!
    God save Our Genial Host!

    The glue's strong this evening.

  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441
    MrJones said:

    A local grammar school for local people.

    Except of course they aren't. The legislation lets people outside of catchment area apply.
  • JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    "The glue's strong this evening."

    What were you hoping I'd said about Farage, Moniker?
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523

    MrJones said:

    A local grammar school for local people.

    Except of course they aren't. The legislation lets people outside of catchment area apply.
    It was a joke.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441
    MrJones said:

    MrJones said:

    A local grammar school for local people.

    Except of course they aren't. The legislation lets people outside of catchment area apply.
    It was a joke.
    so's the legislation ;-)
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216

    "Much as I enjoy your flights of fantasy on PB, I assume the level of challenging intellectual debate on your own blog isn't exactly keeping you tied to your keyboard."I wish that were true, but in fact I recently made an open call for new contributors because I knew I wasn't going to be able to keep the pace up indefinitely. It's very, very time-consuming to write a blog like that - you should try it before sneering, Alan.

    What did you think of the quality of responses?
    http://scotgoespop.blogspot.com/2013/05/fancy-becoming-contributor-to-scot-goes.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+ScotGoesPop+(SCOT+goes+POP!%2
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,962
    As Sunil's on, a concern about access to coal for preserved railways:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22681141

    We went through this in the mid-1990s, when it looked as though the source of Welsh steam coal (the best for engines) was drying up. The BBC article is being over dramatic - preserved steam railways in the UK will survive.
  • JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    edited May 2013
    Carlotta Vance -

    "What did you think of the quality of responses?"

    Excellent. Here was Robert MacDonald's second guest post from last week -

    "Hello, I am Robert MacDonald, guest poster. I yearn for the day I can get rid of Alex Salmond - by voting Yes in 2014. But what will that shining post-referendum future hold? I thought I'd share one vision of our future, as imagined by the Better Together campaign and their supporters. Have a read and decide for yourself how credible this future is. We can't say we weren't warned..."

    http://scotgoespop.blogspot.it/2013/05/the-omniscare.html
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441

    Carlotta Vance -

    "What did you think of the quality of responses?"

    Excellent. Here was Robert MacDonald's second guest post from last week -

    "Hello, I am Robert MacDonald, guest poster. I yearn for the day I can get rid of Alex Salmond - by voting Yes in 2014. But what will that shining post-referendum future hold? I thought I'd share one vision of our future, as imagined by the Better Together campaign and their supporters. Have a read and decide for yourself how credible this future is. We can't say we weren't warned..."

    http://scotgoespop.blogspot.it/2013/05/the-omniscare.html

    If cabages could type ...... oh wait they do. Zzzzzz.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,543

    It looks like Rome mayoral race will go to the run off with centre-left around 10 points ahead. Turntout just 52.8%

    Nation wide, the average turnout was 62.38%

    Skimming over all the posters commenting about each other...can you comment on which parties have the most cause for satisfaction in the results, andrea?

  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792

    Carlotta Vance -

    "What did you think of the quality of responses?"

    Excellent. Here was Robert MacDonald's second guest post from last week -

    "Hello, I am Robert MacDonald, guest poster. I yearn for the day I can get rid of Alex Salmond - by voting Yes in 2014. But what will that shining post-referendum future hold? I thought I'd share one vision of our future, as imagined by the Better Together campaign and their supporters. Have a read and decide for yourself how credible this future is. We can't say we weren't warned..."

    http://scotgoespop.blogspot.it/2013/05/the-omniscare.html

    If cabages could type ...... oh wait they do. Zzzzzz.

    Hello , I'm Ronald MacDonald . I'm a clown . I yearn for the day I can get rid of a Big Mac by eating a dozen

  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    tim said:

    Socrates said:

    @tim

    The problem with that analysis is that it assumes GCSE results are the be-all and end-all for being successful. The reality is that grammar schools are very good at giving people from all background the broader set of skills needed to be successful at university and in employment.

    Anecdote, based on splitting off 20% at eleven largely based on class and coaching.
    Utter gash.

    I'm a working class boy from a council flat and I went, though I will admit that was in 1966! However my youngest two girls passed without much coaching and I'll be surprised if my nine year old granddaughter doesn't pass, I'll be equally shocked if my seven year old grandson does pass.

    They are changing the format here in Bucks so that coaching doesn't influence the results too much, and anyway no amount of coaching will help if the child isn't bright enough.

  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441

    Carlotta Vance -

    "What did you think of the quality of responses?"

    Excellent. Here was Robert MacDonald's second guest post from last week -

    "Hello, I am Robert MacDonald, guest poster. I yearn for the day I can get rid of Alex Salmond - by voting Yes in 2014. But what will that shining post-referendum future hold? I thought I'd share one vision of our future, as imagined by the Better Together campaign and their supporters. Have a read and decide for yourself how credible this future is. We can't say we weren't warned..."

    http://scotgoespop.blogspot.it/2013/05/the-omniscare.html

    If cabages could type ...... oh wait they do. Zzzzzz.

    Hello , I'm Ronald MacDonald . I'm a clown . I yearn for the day I can get rid of a Big Mac by eating a dozen

    we are a non-racist, equal opportunities civic nationalist party that just doesn't like english people.......
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Can the arguments stop, and we just sit back and enjoy this instead?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwFiLuYFiZ0
  • JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    Are you drunk, Alan? You seem even more stupidly offensive than usual today.
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792

    Carlotta Vance -

    "What did you think of the quality of responses?"

    Excellent. Here was Robert MacDonald's second guest post from last week -

    "Hello, I am Robert MacDonald, guest poster. I yearn for the day I can get rid of Alex Salmond - by voting Yes in 2014. But what will that shining post-referendum future hold? I thought I'd share one vision of our future, as imagined by the Better Together campaign and their supporters. Have a read and decide for yourself how credible this future is. We can't say we weren't warned..."

    http://scotgoespop.blogspot.it/2013/05/the-omniscare.html

    If cabages could type ...... oh wait they do. Zzzzzz.

    Hello , I'm Ronald MacDonald . I'm a clown . I yearn for the day I can get rid of a Big Mac by eating a dozen

    we are a non-racist, equal opportunities civic nationalist party that just doesn't like english people.......
    We often hear how egilitarian and tolerant Scotland is. I wonder how many English MPs there are in Scotland and how many Scottish MPs there are in England.

  • ZenPaganZenPagan Posts: 689
    @JamesKelly

    Well I answered your question I presume from your lack of retort that you are disappointed with the lack of something to find fault with? Or perhaps I have so inflamed your sense of morality with my frothing bigotry that you are left speechless?
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441

    Are you drunk, Alan? You seem even more stupidly offensive than usual today.

    You don't even see the irony in that.
  • JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    I'd need a few pints to see the irony, Alan.

    And I see we finally have the explanation for Moniker's Google searches from his Lombardia villa!
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,667
    @Sunil - there's a programme on BBC2 now that you should be watching, if you're not already.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441
    As imperceptive as ever, but then didn't you tell me you don't drink alcohol.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,962
    Sean Connery addresses the SNP faithful in October 2014:

    "Comrades! This is your captain! It is an honour to speak to you today! And I'm honoured to be sailing with you on the maiden voyage of our Motherland's most recent achievement. And once more, we play our dangerous game. A game of chess....against our old adversary...the English Navy! For 300 years, your fathers before you and your older brothers played this game...and played it well. But today, the game is different. WE have the advantage! It reminds me of the heady days of Bannockburn and Robert the Bruce, when the world trembled at the sound of our war drums. Now they will tremble again - at the sound of our silence. The order is: engage the silent drive! Comrades! Our own fleet doesn't know our full potential! They will do everything possible to test us, but they will only test their own embarrassment. We will leave our fleet behind! We will pass through the English patrols, past their sonar nets, and lay off their largest city, and listen to their rock and roll...while we conduct missile drills! And when we are finished, the only sound they will hear is our laughter, while we sail to Dublin, where the sun is warm, and so is the...comradeship. A great day, comrades! We sail into history!"
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441

    Sean Connery addresses the SNP faithful in October 2014:

    "Comrades! This is your captain! It is an honour to speak to you today! And I'm honoured to be sailing with you on the maiden voyage of our Motherland's most recent achievement. And once more, we play our dangerous game. A game of chess....against our old adversary...the English Navy! For 300 years, your fathers before you and your older brothers played this game...and played it well. But today, the game is different. WE have the advantage! It reminds me of the heady days of Bannockburn and Robert the Bruce, when the world trembled at the sound of our war drums. Now they will tremble again - at the sound of our silence. The order is: engage the silent drive! Comrades! Our own fleet doesn't know our full potential! They will do everything possible to test us, but they will only test their own embarrassment. We will leave our fleet behind! We will pass through the English patrols, past their sonar nets, and lay off their largest city, and listen to their rock and roll...while we conduct missile drills! And when we are finished, the only sound they will hear is our laughter, while we sail to Dublin, where the sun is warm, and so is the...comradeship. A great day, comrades! We sail into history!"

    Sunil, have you heard from Captain Llama, I haven't seen him on PB of late ?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,962

    Sean Connery addresses the SNP faithful in October 2014:

    "Comrades! This is your captain! It is an honour to speak to you today! And I'm honoured to be sailing with you on the maiden voyage of our Motherland's most recent achievement. And once more, we play our dangerous game. A game of chess....against our old adversary...the English Navy! For 300 years, your fathers before you and your older brothers played this game...and played it well. But today, the game is different. WE have the advantage! It reminds me of the heady days of Bannockburn and Robert the Bruce, when the world trembled at the sound of our war drums. Now they will tremble again - at the sound of our silence. The order is: engage the silent drive! Comrades! Our own fleet doesn't know our full potential! They will do everything possible to test us, but they will only test their own embarrassment. We will leave our fleet behind! We will pass through the English patrols, past their sonar nets, and lay off their largest city, and listen to their rock and roll...while we conduct missile drills! And when we are finished, the only sound they will hear is our laughter, while we sail to Dublin, where the sun is warm, and so is the...comradeship. A great day, comrades! We sail into history!"

    Sunil, have you heard from Captain Llama, I haven't seen him on PB of late ?
    No I haven't, Alan, I have his email and if he doesn't show up within the next day or two I will contact him.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    @Sunil @Alanbrooke

    TSE was saying he had been in touch on twitter recently.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441

    Sean Connery addresses the SNP faithful in October 2014:

    "Comrades! This is your captain! It is an honour to speak to you today! And I'm honoured to be sailing with you on the maiden voyage of our Motherland's most recent achievement. And once more, we play our dangerous game. A game of chess....against our old adversary...the English Navy! For 300 years, your fathers before you and your older brothers played this game...and played it well. But today, the game is different. WE have the advantage! It reminds me of the heady days of Bannockburn and Robert the Bruce, when the world trembled at the sound of our war drums. Now they will tremble again - at the sound of our silence. The order is: engage the silent drive! Comrades! Our own fleet doesn't know our full potential! They will do everything possible to test us, but they will only test their own embarrassment. We will leave our fleet behind! We will pass through the English patrols, past their sonar nets, and lay off their largest city, and listen to their rock and roll...while we conduct missile drills! And when we are finished, the only sound they will hear is our laughter, while we sail to Dublin, where the sun is warm, and so is the...comradeship. A great day, comrades! We sail into history!"

    Sunil, have you heard from Captain Llama, I haven't seen him on PB of late ?
    No I haven't, Alan, I have his email and if he doesn't show up within the next day or two I will contact him.
    maybe he's on hols, but it's not like him not to pop in and correct someone's spelling. ;-)
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441
    Neil said:

    @Sunil @Alanbrooke

    TSE was saying he had been in touch on twitter recently.

    I assume you've got over Ireland coming last in Eurovision ?
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    @Alanbrooke

    I'm still trying to get the last of the hangover out of my system.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,962
    Neil said:

    @Sunil @Alanbrooke

    TSE was saying he had been in touch on twitter recently.

    Ah, well that's good then!

    (Sorry - make than an "Aaaaargh!")
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441
    Neil said:

    @Alanbrooke

    I'm still trying to get the last of the hangover out of my system.

    I'm still subscribing to the theory the Troika have given instructions not to win it.
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792

    Neil said:

    @Alanbrooke

    I'm still trying to get the last of the hangover out of my system.


    I'm still subscribing to the theory the Troika have given instructions not to win it.
    The Traoiseacha is the approved form .
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441

    Neil said:

    @Alanbrooke

    I'm still trying to get the last of the hangover out of my system.


    I'm still subscribing to the theory the Troika have given instructions not to win it.
    The Traoiseacha is the approved form .
    I'm sure I've heard them described in much more Anglo saxon terms.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    @Moniker

    You overestimate Enda, Ireland's leadership of the EU is only temporary.
  • rogerhrogerh Posts: 282
    Can't believe the Lib Dem figure>if anything would be expecting a substantial fall compared to last time
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,627
    rogerh said:

    Can't believe the Lib Dem figure>if anything would be expecting a substantial fall compared to last time

    Roger!! How dare you come on here and upset everyone by posting something on topic :-)
  • PBModeratorPBModerator Posts: 664
    "Site notice, new rule in place.


    Posters are no longer allowed to call other posters racist etc, posts that violate this rule and the spirit of this rule, will be deleted.


    Alan/Moniker/James, your discussion is now closed"
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Completely off topic, the is a Blackadder doc on BBC2 tonight as well as the opening episode of The 2nd series...

    In 1986 I was 11 and thought this was the funniest programme I had ever seen... Could prob still recite every line... Bought series 1 on video and couldn't believe how lame it was, was ridiculously excited about "the Third" and felt let down, "Goes Forth" was a bit of a return to form....

    So 2,4,3,1 for me, but 2 being better than the other three combined... any other fans/thoughts?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    ZenPagan said:

    "I personally don't wear a left or right badge of pride. If I believe an idea is right I say so regardless of where it comes from, likewise if an idea is wrong I make no bones about saying so regardless of origin. "

    Could you direct me to an occasion when you have a trashed a right-wing viewpoint, and labelled its proponents as "ranting Tories"?

    http://politicalbetting.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/32474/#Comment_32474

    I had a disagreement with Charles in this thread, I think he probably counts as a Tory?

    In addition I have had a few spats with the PB tories on amongst other topics, the lack of a quango bonfire, civil liberties, gay marriage and elitism

    I'm not a f***ing Tory! Liberal Unionist and proud!

    ;-)
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    By the way, I'm waiting with bated breath to discover why Moniker has just done the following two Google searches from his villa in Sesto San Giovanni -

    "james kelly scots more egalitarian"

    "james kelly scot goes pop nigel farage"

    Sorry James, basically you're a decent guy.

    But that's just creepy
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    edited May 2013
    ZenPagan said:

    @Charles in that case my apologies for equating you with such a lifeform, if I have caused offence with this comparison then I offer withdrawal of the slur at once

    They're not too bad really, once you get to know them.

    Nothing that a bit of Whiggery wouldn't cure

    (edit: suggest you google Liberal Unionist if you have a moment - all will become clear ;-) )
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,962
    isam said:

    Completely off topic, the is a Blackadder doc on BBC2 tonight as well as the opening episode of The 2nd series...

    In 1986 I was 11 and thought this was the funniest programme I had ever seen... Could prob still recite every line... Bought series 1 on video and couldn't believe how lame it was, was ridiculously excited about "the Third" and felt let down, "Goes Forth" was a bit of a return to form....

    So 2,4,3,1 for me, but 2 being better than the other three combined... any other fans/thoughts?

    I don't have the DVDs but I do have the script-book I bought from Comic Relief quite a few years ago. I think 3 is best then 2 then 4 then 1, but that's just me.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    Charles said:

    Liberal Unionist and proud!

    You've just confused Willie McCrea.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Actually, TSE, a thought for a thread:

    Are the splits in the Tory ranks just a replay of the Chamberlain / Balfour division: radicals vs. the Whigs
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Neil said:

    Charles said:

    Liberal Unionist and proud!

    You've just confused Willie McCrea.
    Do I get bonus points for that?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774
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