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  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    @Coporeal

    "I also wonder if as a society we're now different demographically, in terms of the class make-up of rural vs urban etc, but that's an undeveloped thought"

    Well while you are developing it let me throw you a few ideas. There is probably less dividing the urban dweller and his/her smaller town or rural neighbour that at any time in our history. Yet their voting patterns seem so different? Why is that? More to the point, what are the commonalities in their experience of life, what problems do they both have in common and what would they both like to see resolved? Could a party that appealed to that commonality actually win in both areas?

  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    I am sure that encounter was filmed by both sides. Can Murphy be so stupid that he is unaware of modern technology? The eggs are the same as they always were, alas the technology has moved on.
    Smarmeron said:

    @old_labour
    It's nothing to do with the legality. If the guy doing the filming was from the "Yes" camp, he wants the video to show you in the worst possible light.
    While he has a right to film, the politician has a right to not "perform" for him/her.
    As an example. The camera man knows the identity of the next questioner, and that they are a "plant". Should the politician carry on and take the risk, or ask the partisan film maker to stop?

  • Oliver_PBOliver_PB Posts: 397
    edited August 2014
    Having thought about it, there is potentially one policy that might be able to bridge the economic divide: basic income.

    The idea has some support on both the left and the right. Maybe UKIP should look into it.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    HYUFD said:

    HurstLlama UKIP is a populist party of protest, not one of government in my view, certainly not in its own right, if in the 2014 Euro elections 72.5% of those voting did not support it, let alone the 66% who did not vote, it hardly suggests it is the party of the future!

    Carswell is changing them into a proper party.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @old_labour
    In normal circumstances you might have a point, but if there is an organized "barracking" going on you are no longer filming a debate, and are filming a shouting match instead.
    I believe he is claiming that is what was happening, if you believe it or not, of course is up to your own perspective.
    I haven't debated independence with all but a few of the more sensible of my friends, because otherwise emotions take over, and there is usually a falling out before bedtime. (more usually pub closing, but you get the picture)
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    And Souter's influence is such that the Scottish Parliament has voted for equal marriage. He has not being getting good value for his money. List of Scottish MPs who voted against equal marriage in the UK parliament. All were "Better Together" supporters.
    Tom Clarke (Coatbridge, Chryston & Bellshill)
    Brian Donohoe (Ayrshire Central)
    Michael McCann (East Kilbride, Strathaven & Lesmahagow),
    Jim McGovern (Dundee West),
    Iain McKenzie (Inverclyde)
    Frank Roy (Motherwell & Wishaw),
    Jim Sheridan (Paisley & Renfrewshire North)
    HYUFD said:

    oldlabour Don't forget either that pro Section 28 backer Brian Souter is staunchly Yes

  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
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  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,875
    OldLabour Maybe, but shows Yes is not as 'progressive' as it claims
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