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The betting on the Scottish IndyRef has moved further to NO during the day even though, as yet, we have yet to see the first full post debate referendum poll.
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If Scotland votes No, the Tories would be unlikely to win a majority at Westminster for the foreseeable future.
Have you seen this youtube clip sean of a Iraqi women MP on about the slaughter
Brought a tear to my eye.
http://www.archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/we-are-being-butchered-under-banner-of.html
What is this Feminist bullshit-
Caitlin Moran @caitlinmoran · 1h
NINE MILLION ROFL - all the "straight white male author" jokes in one place [edited]
Well - I have my Casio.
I work that out at an 80% increase.
Stupid inflation is always 110, 115 or 120
Stick to knitting.
PS - Hannah Betts yesterday was Spot On
An independent Scotland must have its own currency with a 1:1 peg to sterling. There is a respectable precedent in the form of the Irish Free State and the punt, where sterling parity was maintained for many years. The peg may not be that durable in Scotland's case and a free float may become necessary in due course. This is a secondary matter and is far less daunting than the nonsense of currency union or sterlingisation.
And then there is the small matter of the mechanics of bank account conversion and the prevention of capital flight.
@NickPalmer
"Well, that's you un-invited :-). Just had a fish dinner in a pleasant restuarant for £2 (OK, it's Beijing). Can't remember the last time I spent £20 on a meal. A video game, certainly. Books, maybe. But for food that you eat in 10 minutes? Pshaw."
Life must be a damn sight cheaper in Nottinghamshire and Central London then, Nick. Went out with herself to meet friends for a pub lunch yesterday. Nothing fancy, two courses with a very modest amount of drink and it topped twenty quid a head. In the Crawley curry-house where we once had a PB meet one can now expect to pay a minimum of £40 per person. Even in my local and favourite Indian (flock wall paper and it hasn't changed in forty years) I budget for £30 each.
£20 for drinks and nibbles in the Palace of Westminster sound like a good deal to me.
Indian reporter posts backstory to viral rocket video
NDTV reporter Sreenivasan Jain, whose video of Hamas operatives assembling and firing rockets from a civilian area went viral, writes an article with more information on the incident:
“We had all of it on tape, but wrestled with the dilemma of what to do with it. Two considerations weighed on our mind. One, the fear which hobbles the reporting such material: fear of reprisals from Hamas against us and those who worked with us, fear of inviting an Israeli response on the spot (these have been known to miss). Two, we needed to be 100 % sure that this was a rocket launch site. So we did nothing, setting off on our assignment for the day, mulling over the material in our possession.
“The next morning was meant to be our last in Gaza, and the day when a 72-hour ceasefire was meant to bring some relief to the area. As we woke early to pack – stealing tense glances at the ‘rocket’ patch – the final step was enacted. With minutes left for the ceasefire to kick in, flurries of Hamas rockets were fired. At about 7:52 am, this patch of earth was activated; the rockets took off with a bang and a plume of smoke. We managed to catch it on video just seconds after. By then the men who assembled it had long gone.
“We knew then we had to air the story. For us to have filmed how a rocket was assembled next to us, on a site used twice to launch a rocket, endangering the lives of all those around us on two occasions -to not have reported it would have been simply wrong. But we did take precautions – we aired the report a good five hours after the rocket was launched, well into the ceasefire. By then it was clear that Israel was not responding, at least for the period of the ceasefire. (Incidentally, given Israel’s extensive surveillance of rockets launched from the Gaza Strip it hardly seems they would need the media to point out to them where rockets are fired from.)
“There was the question of possible reprisal by Hamas; to this one, there are no easy answers other than to ask: how long do we self-censor because of the fear of personal safety in return for not telling a story that exposes how those launching rockets are putting so many more lives at risk, while the rocket-makers themselves are at a safe distance? More so when we have rare, first hand proof of how it works?”
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Terrible to read of the attempt to wipe out the Yazidis. When I watched the news whilst eating lunch, though, both rolling channels had blanket coverage of the Pistorius trial. Is it more important than genocide?
I don't think so. And. compared to the Gaza situation (which does deserve a lot of coverage), ISIS is getting very little.
Come on Indi...
[taps head to re-boot Tebbit Chip]
...I meant to say give the Caste-botherers hell!
Avast, belike, shiver-my-timbers, else.
Dr. Prasannan, is that right? I thought ISIS laid claim to the territory of Iran and ultimately desires to destroy the Iranian state and incorporate its territory into the Caliphate.
Mr. T, I thought Zoroastrianism was older? Pedantic quibble aside, 'tis a good thing to try and raise awareness. Let's hope the Kurds can kill a lot of the ISIS zealots.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/28589543
'An independent Scotland would aim to have a formal currency union with the UK. In the event of that not happening there would be an informal shadowing of the £ for a period until the Euro was adopted.'
Too late now I guess.
[Edit - oops, apols for being on topic]
The players we could support seem to be:
the Free Syrian Army (although last I heard they were being driven back by Assad)
the Iraqi Government (although the US poured tens of billions in the army and their first response appears to be to abandon equipment and run away)
the Kurds (who seem to actually know what the hell they're doing, have a strong sense of identity and are willing and able to fight)
the Turks
Problem is Kurdistan extends into Turkey so giving arms to the Kurds could see them later be used against the Turks.
Anyway, medical, logistical and perhaps other forms of support should be offered to the Kurds. We should also try and encourage the Turks to perform airstrikes against ISIS whenever possible. I can't imagine Turkey would be pleased to have such lunatics all along their southern border.
The tragedy of Iraq was not merely it being wholly unnecessarily and fantastically poorly planned, but the lies told to get us into it. Now we have an electorate willing to believe politicians would lie about matters of war and peace, because a Prime Minister did just that.
You mean newspapers having foreign correspondents embedded in the country? Maybe the BBC, who are probably the best in the business when it comes to foreign correspondents, actually having editors who are capable of sorting the propaganda from the news. Deary, me, Mr. Dancer, that all costs money.
The Daily Telegraph can't even afford sub-editors capable of writing a headline that reflects what is in the story below it. They had a journalist who had been kicking around the Westminster scene for a long time and as a result was jolly well connected. They sacked him and replaced him with some fellow who, eventually, repeats whatever he has read in the early editions elsewhere. The other papers are no better and most are worse.
No, much cheaper to regurgitate press releases. Doesn't need any decent journalists, who always are terribly expensive, and it fills the page. Furthermore, if all one is doing is rewording press releases there is very little chance of falling foul of official interests. Reporting facts is a very old-fashioned concept, very expensive, and really not to the interest of anyone.
Much better than today's, it must be said.
Best comment of the morning, probably the day and, when it comes to foreign affairs, probably the year. Well said, Mr. Dancer.
BREAKING NEWS FROM THE IMMIGRANT HELLHOLE OF NEWHAM,EAST LONDON.
EXCLUSIVE: Twenty pupils have tested positive... http://fb.me/3QbxZGL3M
TB is making a big comeback in the UK, after it was all but eradicated 40 years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant
Nigel Farage @Nigel_Farage 3m
Brilliant stuff from Broad and Anderson, Brave by Dhoni, what a start #EngVInd
"After the start was delayed by 30 minutes because of rain, MS Dhoni won the toss and elected to bat first. He then padded up half an hour later as James Anderson and Stuart Broad took two wickets each to reduce India to 8-4. Despite the skipper digging in for 71, his team had no chance from that position and India were eventually skittled for 152 just before tea." BBC sport
Pat Condell @patcondell 1m
"In one day, they killed more than two thousand Yazidi in Sinjar, and the whole world says, ‘Save Gaza, save Gaza.’" http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/183813 …
"It's our pound, and we're keeping it".
I don't see why Salmond expects that an independent nation would have to bow to the demands of another independent nation.
http://www.hpa.org.uk/webc/HPAwebFile/HPAweb_C/1317140340361
TB is most virulent in crowded areas comparable to Victorian living standards. Unfortunately there are still people who live in such conditions, frequently migrants, but the possibility for many more cases is remote.
More details: http://www.hpa.org.uk/webw/HPAweb&HPAwebStandard/HPAweb_C/1317139689732
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant
8/15 on the current cabinet lasting to the GE still available (Clegg's reshuffle will be in autumn meaning this is surely almost free money).
I think you should also consider that the Syrian vote in Parliament (where both sides managed to want action and achieve nothing because of party political dancing on the head of a pin) and Obama's worthless red line as perhaps even more important than the Iraq war.
Putin saw that Obama's red line wasn't worth a damn. The EU is very talented at bureaucratic bullshit and getting things by stealth but when it comes to hard power it's as fearsome as the army of Liechtenstein.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/88640
LIKE - Me too - for, admittedly the best part of a decade, which I get the impression is just not on with some of these foodie types #GBBO
I can't believe you as good a spinner as you are. I'm willing to put the factual slips to memory problems that we all must have.
If you're doing it deliberately you are an evil genius and I'd probably have to re-think my views on at least 650 people.
If for the sake of argument you say there are two main driving forces in the media deciding what bits of foreign news gets reported and what doesn't and that those two forces can be described (simplifying) as neocon or guardianista then
1) The neocons are keeping quiet because ISIS are aligned with US interests: anti-Maliki and anti-Assad.**
2) Guardianistas (understandably in this case) don't want any more western meddling in Iraq as it always seems to make things worse.
(** There's also the possibility that ISIS were created by western allies in the Gulf (if not the US directly) to fight Assad leading to embarrassing revelations. This could be true even if you don't believe they were directly helped because the drenching of rebel Syria with western arms will have lowered the price making it possible for freelance psychos to trade for what they wanted.)
Original origin yes but my understanding is they turned into a big player in Syria (possibly because if you step over a line in the desert then weaponry for people saying they want to fight Assad is cheap and easily available whereas on the other side of the line it isn't).
@HurstLlama - according to local radio here, Russia is the second biggest export market for American chicken, and pistachios are also a major export to there
@FrankBooth - disgraceful disregard for the facts in a random allegation against a major UK employer. Look at clinicaltrials.gov. All clinical trials, whether favorable or not, have to be published.
(or at least since Carter).
I wonder if that'd be practically a debate over whether sins of commission and worse than sins of omission.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cfwAA-B01Y
WARNING: VERY GRAPHIC
Labour shortlist for Ashton announced http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/all-woman-labour-shortlist-announced-ashton-under-lyne-7578406
No jokes about keeping nominations in the family - daughter of Trafford Council leader on the list.
For info ...
"Getting your ducks in a row" is originally an American saying meaning to get organised.
The shortlist (an AWS) is composed by
Ann Courtney (Middleton activist, worked for Andy Burnham during his leadership campaign, shortlisted in Blackburn)
Victoria Desmond (immigration caseworker for Brent North MP, just graduated from London School of Economics, originally from Tameside)
Catherine Hynes (Cllr in Trafford, previously shortlisted for Wythenshawe and Sale East by-election)
Angela Rayner (Unison official from Stockport, previously shortlisted in Manchester Withington)
www.angelarayner.com/about_angela
Julie Reid (Manchester Gorton Cllr, Works at Ashton 6th Form college)
juliereid4ashton.blogspot.co.uk
Jean Stretton (Oldham Cllr, ward within the constituency)
Manchester Evening News reports that Rayner has the highest number of nominations followed by Stretton
The disaster in Iraq (yes Bush initiated the problem - mainly down to poor planning for the aftermath - but with the Surge had basically fixed it), the roll-back in Afghanistan, the lack of credibility facing Russia (which has impacted Ukraine), the red line debacle in Syria, the betrayal of Poland, etc, etc.
. @David_Cameron @Ed_Miliband @Nigel_Farage the Yazidi the Yazidi the Yazidi the Yazidi the Yazidi the Yazidi the Yazidi the Yazidi the ....
Can we really sit by for another genocide?
Other nations will watch and learn. Primarily Russia, of course, who will amongst many lessons have picked up on the idea that if one has the strength then one can ignore anything from the UN, after all the USA and The UK and their friends did.
That direct link video has been taken down previously.
PB does get younger viewers.
He (and Yes generally) seem to be utterly unaware that independence would involve negotiation with the rest of the UK, not dictating terms.
(based purely on reading and a few rellies who were out there some years ago so no claim to expertise)
1) The Iraqi army can't fight. (I assume this is because of corruption and they sell their ammo and petrol on the black market so literally can't fight.)
2) Maliki also has Shia militias who can defend towns but can't take them without heavy weapons or air support.
3) The US don't want to give Maliki air support.
4) Russia/Iran has given Maliki air support and it is being used but either it's not enough or Russia is holding them back because it doesn't want to be seen as taking sides in a Sunni vs Shia civil war**
5) Sunni tribes with genuine grievances with Maliki - same as the Shia militia in terms of ability
6) ISIS - fanatical and with a substantial component of freelance psychos so more capable than the rest of the competition so far
7) Kurds - very capable but limited heavy weapons and no air force.
So solution (for anyone who'd prefer ISIS to stay in areas where the locals have a genuine grievance**) is Kurds plus Iraqi air force. That couldn't happen until the freelance psycho component in ISIS went too far.
So if my guess is right the Iraqi air force will now be helping the Kurds retake the towns near the Kurdish area (although not necessarily any further than that).
(** It's not really a religious civil war even though it is on the surface. Those parts of the world are very nepotistic so people in power give all the jobs to their relatives. As Shia / Sunni are divided on marriage lines then their relatives are divided on religious lines also so when Sunnis are in charge they give all the jobs to their relatives - who all happen to be Sunni - and when Shias are in charge they give all the jobs to their relatives - who all happen to be Shia. So basically whichever side is in charge the other side will have a genuine grievance.)
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/fined-councillor-my-dog-roams-streets-890907
Guido/Rangers link-
What's not to love-
http://order-order.com/2014/08/07/todays-outstanding-contribution-to-statistical-excellence/
Vive Ecossais (we spent less less than one minute for that sign off - hope you like it)
[wiki link to Cuban missle crisis]
I must apologise for my verbosity today people - blame the 1am Embargoer and my drinking patterns.
Al-Malaki has a huge amount of blood on his hands. He just didn't know when to say 'Enough. I'm full'.
As an aside one found the same attitude with the PIRA who despite being a terrorist organisation was always careful to comply with their stated agreements and got very shirty if the they thought that HMG were not doing likewise. There were times when we thought that PIRA were more trustworthy than dear old HMG.
Anyway, with Iraq in 2003 and with Libya the "West" showed that they did not give a hoot about the UN, except as it suited them. People in power in countries not always allied to ours see such things and learn. Those people are now learning a new set of lessons, ones that reinforce they learned from Rawanda and Sebrenicia - the west cares about genocide and terrorism only if it hits their TV screens Keep it off the BBC and you can do what the fuck you like, nobody in the West will care enough. Even if the BBC do start running the story in a way that is unhelpful, if you have the power on the ground, just ignore it and they will go away.
Russia was also a signatory to an agreement respecting Ukraine's territorial integrity. That's hardly been kept to.
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Graham Hancock @Graham__Hancock · Jul 29
If it's OK to sky dive, bungee jump, drive fast cars and drink booze, why is it not OK to explore our own consciousness with psychedelics?
Are there implications in doing this ? Potential for higher interest rates ?
There is that old saying along the lines that its better to remain quiet and let people wonder if you are an idiot rather than opening one's mouth and confirming the fact. All the time that NATO and the wider "West" kept out of combat they could, reasonably, expect its enemies not to be sure of just how capable it was. They now know.
We seem from news this morning seem to be in a trade war with with Russia. They must know that if the conflict escalates it will be the "West" that will blink first.
FFS the unionists plan B is a CU, they do not have any other choices.
What kind of a turnip head are you. Intelligent people in Scotland know what he is saying.
For whatever reasons - presumably economic with helpings of political expediency - they chose the GBP option.
Obviously there would be implications of a Scotland only currency.
All I know for sure - Is that I watched pretty much all of the Carney speech (Live on Sky News! -Yeah!) - and he indicated that it was entirely plausible - and perhaps not a bad option, for an Independent Scotland. [edit - I'm talking about the GBP option in this paragraph]
It would have been a lot more fun if he went through all the options - Probably not in his remit.
Unbelievable.