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  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,718

    FF43 said:

    I would make one serious point about this business. I don't think an MP who resigns mid parliament should be allowed to stand in the by-election caused by their resignation. I can't think of any legitimate reason for them to do so

    Mum, did you just hijack FF43's account?

    (Seriously, my Mum literally made the same point to me while we were watching Countdown!)
    Do you know for sure that your Mum isn't posting as FF43?
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,636
    Cookie said:

    KnightOut said:

    Trump back on about Greenland even as the Iran war restarts.

    Two more years of all this.

    Infantini really needs to reverse that Belgium result before the nukes are wheeled out.
    Greenland, oddly, is part of Denmark (#22 world rankings) when it comes to internatal football, even though the Faroe Islands (#123) get a separate team.

    It begs the question... would we be willing to give up 'En-ger-lund' and everything it means to us, in exchange for International football becoming aligned strictly and consistently with actual countries (e.g. the 'Pointless' definition, sovereign UN member state).

    It's notable that apart from the UK constituents, the only other non-country Nations to ever make a World Cup are Curacao and the former 'Dutch East Indies' colony back in 1938, so we really are an outlier. If I wasn't English, I'd find it a major irritation. Autist-triggering in a big way.

    (I guess technically some participating football nations aren't absolutely identical to the actual countries *because* of the lopped off bits - e.g. the Netherlands team excludes Curacao).
    I absolutely would for football. I would prefer a British team to an English team.
    For cricket, this is already kind of de facto the situation.
    In principle I would for rugby - though losing three of the top ten teams internationally would weaken rugby union as an international sport.
    The last time I looked - back in the pre-Sky era - we competed as Great Britain in rugby league, and I would obviously very much like to go back to that.
    There's a Scotland cricket team. Doesn't play Test Matches, but does quite well in the second tier of the shorter forms of the game.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,211
    edited 4:00PM
    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,967

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    Educated at King's Wimbledon. He's English.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,550

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    And a break...
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,911
    Cookie said:

    FF43 said:

    I would make one serious point about this business. I don't think an MP who resigns mid parliament should be allowed to stand in the by-election caused by their resignation. I can't think of any legitimate reason for them to do so

    Mum, did you just hijack FF43's account?

    (Seriously, my Mum literally made the same point to me while we were watching Countdown!)
    Do you know for sure that your Mum isn't posting as FF43?
    Am I allowed an opinion on this?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,211
    carnforth said:

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    And a break...
    Its the hope that kills you.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,211
    edited 4:05PM
    tlg86 said:

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    Educated at King's Wimbledon. He's English.
    I was obviously joking. Not to go down the rabbit hole of nationality (which i find a bit boring tbh), but I think he moved to UK when he was a few months old, so its not exactly Greg Rusedski scenario. Or there was a really promising junior player who switched, then switched again, in fact I think even more times than that as he never really made it and bounced around whichever country would fund his training.
  • The_WoodpeckerThe_Woodpecker Posts: 590

    tlg86 said:

    KnightOut said:

    Trump back on about Greenland even as the Iran war restarts.

    Two more years of all this.

    Infantini really needs to reverse that Belgium result before the nukes are wheeled out.
    Greenland, oddly, is part of Denmark (#22 world rankings) when it comes to internatal football, even though the Faroe Islands (#123) get a separate team.

    It begs the question... would we be willing to give up 'En-ger-lund' and everything it means to us, in exchange for International football becoming aligned strictly and consistently with actual countries (e.g. the 'Pointless' definition, sovereign UN member state).

    It's notable that apart from the UK constituents, the only other non-country Nations to ever make a World Cup are Curacao and the former 'Dutch East Indies' colony back in 1938, so we really are an outlier. If I wasn't English, I'd find it a major irritation. Autist-triggering in a big way.

    (I guess technically some participating football nations aren't absolutely identical to the actual countries *because* of the lopped off bits - e.g. the Netherlands team excludes Curacao).
    And France. New Caledonia made the inter-confederation playoffs for the World Cup.
    Ireland. Includes Northern Irish players who elect to play for Ireland
    Every country fields dual (or more) qualified players.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,636
    tlg86 said:

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    Educated at King's Wimbledon. He's English.
    Got to say he sounds like an educated SW Londoner. But his Mum and Dad are French people who live in SW London.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,636
    On another topic (!) Trump is making threatening noises against Iran. Is the Khomeni funeral still on-going? Could that be a target?
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,636

    tlg86 said:

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    Educated at King's Wimbledon. He's English.
    I was obviously joking. Not to go down the rabbit hole of nationality (which i find a bit boring tbh), but I think he moved to UK when he was a few months old, so its not exactly Greg Rusedski scenario. Or there was a really promising junior player who switched, then switched again, in fact I think even more times than that as he never really made it and bounced around whichever country would fund his training.
    Raducanu's qualified for at least three countries. IIRC.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 14,557
    edited 4:14PM
    ydoethur said:

    Moron alert:

    We understand why some residents have raised concerns about fly-tipping, but there is no evidence that introducing charges for excess DIY waste leads to an increase.

    Yes there is you fucking imbecile. The ginormous increase in the amount of fly tipping.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy040xxz43o

    I’d actually be interested in the evidence here. It feels like one those things where a widely held assumption is a bit wrong.

    For a start, a lot of the cost is actually in the transport, and a large chunk of the population don’t have access to a large car or van. So a cheap, cash-only fly tipper is always going to be cheaper. And perhaps a large majority of it is actually commercial waste, not household DIY?

    Maybe the solution is to charge a fee but have the council pick it all up.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,544

    On another topic (!) Trump is making threatening noises against Iran. Is the Khomeni funeral still on-going? Could that be a target?

    There has been a number of ceremonies including one today. The final funeral ceremony will take place on Thursday in Mashhad. He will ll be laid to rest at the shrine of Imam Reza according to Iranian sources. So it seems Trump just wants to wind them up.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,646

    tlg86 said:

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    Educated at King's Wimbledon. He's English.
    I was obviously joking. Not to go down the rabbit hole of nationality (which i find a bit boring tbh), but I think he moved to UK when he was a few months old, so its not exactly Greg Rusedski scenario. Or there was a really promising junior player who switched, then switched again, in fact I think even more times than that as he never really made it and bounced around whichever country would fund his training.
    He sounds English, rather than French.
    Poor old Greg couldn't if his life depended on it.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,211
    edited 4:16PM
    Nigelb said:

    tlg86 said:

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    Educated at King's Wimbledon. He's English.
    I was obviously joking. Not to go down the rabbit hole of nationality (which i find a bit boring tbh), but I think he moved to UK when he was a few months old, so its not exactly Greg Rusedski scenario. Or there was a really promising junior player who switched, then switched again, in fact I think even more times than that as he never really made it and bounced around whichever country would fund his training.
    He sounds English, rather than French.
    Poor old Greg couldn't if his life depended on it.
    Its quite a sweet story really, moved to the UK to be with his girlfriend, they are still married 25+ years later and he seems a genuinely nice guy who unfortunately always got compared to and rather overshadowed by Tim Henman.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,550
    Nigelb said:

    tlg86 said:

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    Educated at King's Wimbledon. He's English.
    I was obviously joking. Not to go down the rabbit hole of nationality (which i find a bit boring tbh), but I think he moved to UK when he was a few months old, so its not exactly Greg Rusedski scenario. Or there was a really promising junior player who switched, then switched again, in fact I think even more times than that as he never really made it and bounced around whichever country would fund his training.
    He sounds English, rather than French.
    Poor old Greg couldn't if his life depended on it.
    Two sets and two breaks...
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,550
    My 40/1 bet on Cobolli looking somewhat shaky.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,636
    Battlebus said:

    On another topic (!) Trump is making threatening noises against Iran. Is the Khomeni funeral still on-going? Could that be a target?

    There has been a number of ceremonies including one today. The final funeral ceremony will take place on Thursday in Mashhad. He will ll be laid to rest at the shrine of Imam Reza according to Iranian sources. So it seems Trump just wants to wind them up.
    I hope so. The pile of coffins, with the baby granddaughter's on top, brings out one's sympathies. Even for Khomeni.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,755
    ydoethur said:

    Moron alert:

    We understand why some residents have raised concerns about fly-tipping, but there is no evidence that introducing charges for excess DIY waste leads to an increase.

    Yes there is you fucking imbecile. The ginormous increase in the amount of fly tipping.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy040xxz43o

    He's a LD.

    https://democracy.gloucester.gov.uk/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=1933
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,646
    Decent interview from Binface.
    https://x.com/mikegalsworthy/status/2074841060031787124

    Points out that if the good people of Clayton don't want to risk two by elections on the trot, there's an obvious remedy.

    Vote Count Binface rather than the Count of Dodgy Crypto.
  • eekeek Posts: 34,438
    So the Kremlin has avoided talking about Ukraine taking out all the oil refineries

    https://bsky.app/profile/chriso-wiki.bsky.social/post/3mq5ioavnjd2f

    Which means people are complaining about people profiteering from the lack of oil when they believe it’s readily available

    Which means Putin has a problem - it’s too late to tel other truth but without a consistent flow of petrol / diesel everyone thinks he and his cronies are trying to screw them
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,646

    Nigelb said:

    tlg86 said:

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    Educated at King's Wimbledon. He's English.
    I was obviously joking. Not to go down the rabbit hole of nationality (which i find a bit boring tbh), but I think he moved to UK when he was a few months old, so its not exactly Greg Rusedski scenario. Or there was a really promising junior player who switched, then switched again, in fact I think even more times than that as he never really made it and bounced around whichever country would fund his training.
    He sounds English, rather than French.
    Poor old Greg couldn't if his life depended on it.
    Its quite a sweet story really, moved to the UK to be with his girlfriend, they are still married 25+ years later and he seems a genuinely nice guy who unfortunately always got compared to and rather overshadowed by Tim Henman.
    He does. I'm fond of him, and don't question his status.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,636
    Arthur F wins!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,211
    edited 4:29PM
    Wins the final game with an ace, wins the final set with a bagel.

    Definitely not French.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 21,497
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,636
    Ddi they hit Pearl Harbor?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,646
    Burnham endorses.

    Always worth knowing when bin day is.
    https://x.com/andyburnham/status/2074800707346067911
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,390
    Nigelb said:

    I can neither confirm nor deny that Robert Jenrick has asked to defect to the Count Binface Party. I can confirm that the answer's no.
    https://x.com/CountBinface/status/2074848010937258221

    Jenrick refuse-d.

    S
    Nigelb said:

    I can neither confirm nor deny that Robert Jenrick has asked to defect to the Count Binface Party. I can confirm that the answer's no.
    https://x.com/CountBinface/status/2074848010937258221

    Jenrick refuse-d.

    Surely should belong in recycling?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,373
    Congrats to Arthur Fery for reaching Wimbledon semi-finals!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,373

    Ddi they hit Pearl Harbor?
    Did Michael Bay miss the point?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,646
    Recall when Biden was ridiculed for miscalling Zelensky as "Putin" ?
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/trump-zelensky-putin-gaffe-nato-37404657
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,211
    edited 4:44PM
    Starmer says he is going to stay in touch with Trump.

    I predict in a few months, Trump will be saying, Keir who, never heard of him, who is he is. Oh him, no, hardly know him, never close with him, terrible guy, loser.....
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,538
    edited 4:45PM
    KnightOut said:

    Trump back on about Greenland even as the Iran war restarts.

    Two more years of all this.

    Infantini really needs to reverse that Belgium result before the nukes are wheeled out.
    Greenland, oddly, is part of Denmark (#22 world rankings) when it comes to internatal football, even though the Faroe Islands (#123) get a separate team.

    It begs the question... would we be willing to give up 'En-ger-lund' and everything it means to us, in exchange for International football becoming aligned strictly and consistently with actual countries (e.g. the 'Pointless' definition, sovereign UN member state).

    It's notable that apart from the UK constituents, the only other non-country Nations to ever make a World Cup are Curacao and the former 'Dutch East Indies' colony back in 1938, so we really are an outlier. If I wasn't English, I'd find it a major irritation. Autist-triggering in a big way.

    (I guess technically some participating football nations aren't absolutely identical to the actual countries *because* of the lopped off bits - e.g. the Netherlands team excludes Curacao).
    One word answer: no.

    But a few thoughts.

    There are a bunch of non fully sovereign FIFA members like the Faroes, Gibraltar, and I’m sure various Dutch, French , and U.K. islands dotted about the Carribean and Pacific so it’s not a unique situation. Does this really matter to the football world? (Question did Austria-Hungary a team at all before 1914 and was it one or two? I’ve not googled it)

    Unifying the four UK teams would lead to endless bickering about whether X Scot was better than Y Welshman or Z Englishman. Nightmare.

    Circa 1975/80 a UK team would’ve been a lot better than England (Dalgleish/Jennings/ late Best/Jordan etc) but since about the mid 80’s, hand on heart only a relative a handful of non English are making a U.K. team consistently. Rush between Lineker and Sharer? Giggs and Bale get 100 caps each sure, beyond that ? Ramsey? Robertson? Scotland’s best player is probably McTominay but he’s not playing at the Azteca the other night when he’d be behind Bellingham, Rogers, Gibbs-White, Palmer and Foden in the queue.

    We codified the bloody game. One of our great gifts to the whole world, the greatest show on earth that truly unifies the planet, would not be taking place in the same vein right now unless some tweedy ex public school boys decided to draw up some rules on two bits of paper over 160 years ago. I think we deserve a bit of special status for that from the rest of Earth.




  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,910
    edited 4:46PM
    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    I can neither confirm nor deny that Robert Jenrick has asked to defect to the Count Binface Party. I can confirm that the answer's no.
    https://x.com/CountBinface/status/2074848010937258221

    Jenrick refuse-d.

    S
    Nigelb said:

    I can neither confirm nor deny that Robert Jenrick has asked to defect to the Count Binface Party. I can confirm that the answer's no.
    https://x.com/CountBinface/status/2074848010937258221

    Jenrick refuse-d.

    Surely should belong in recycling?
    Jenrick was on the Daily T this afternoon.

    Apparently, "Nigel is ready for the mother of all fights".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CliwVOjoULs
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,538
    welshowl said:

    KnightOut said:

    Trump back on about Greenland even as the Iran war restarts.

    Two more years of all this.

    Infantini really needs to reverse that Belgium result before the nukes are wheeled out.
    Greenland, oddly, is part of Denmark (#22 world rankings) when it comes to internatal football, even though the Faroe Islands (#123) get a separate team.

    It begs the question... would we be willing to give up 'En-ger-lund' and everything it means to us, in exchange for International football becoming aligned strictly and consistently with actual countries (e.g. the 'Pointless' definition, sovereign UN member state).

    It's notable that apart from the UK constituents, the only other non-country Nations to ever make a World Cup are Curacao and the former 'Dutch East Indies' colony back in 1938, so we really are an outlier. If I wasn't English, I'd find it a major irritation. Autist-triggering in a big way.

    (I guess technically some participating football nations aren't absolutely identical to the actual countries *because* of the lopped off bits - e.g. the Netherlands team excludes Curacao).
    One word answer: no.

    But a few thoughts.

    There are a bunch of non fully sovereign FIFA members like the Faroes, Gibraltar, and I’m sure various Dutch, French , and U.K. islands dotted about the Carribean and Pacific so it’s not a unique situation. Does this really matter to the football world? (Question did Austria-Hungary a team at all before 1914 and was it one or two? I’ve not googled it)

    Unifying the four UK teams would lead to endless bickering about whether X Scot was better than Y Welshman or Z Englishman. Nightmare.

    Circa 1975/80 a UK team would’ve been a lot better than England (Dalgleish/Jennings/ late Best/Jordan etc) but since about the mid 80’s, hand on heart only a relative a handful of non English are making a U.K. team consistently. Rush between Lineker and Sharer? Giggs and Bale get 100 caps each sure, beyond that ? Ramsey? Robertson? Scotland’s best player is probably McTominay but he’s not playing at the Azteca the other night when he’d be behind Bellingham, Rogers, Gibbs-White, Palmer and Foden in the queue.

    We codified the bloody game. One of our great gifts to the whole world, the greatest show on earth that truly unifies the planet, would not be taking place in the same vein right now unless some tweedy ex public school boys decided to draw up some rules on two bits of paper over 160 years ago. I think we deserve a bit of special status for that from the rest of Earth.




    Re Austria-Hungary - looked it up, they had separate teams.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,636
    MattW said:

    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    I can neither confirm nor deny that Robert Jenrick has asked to defect to the Count Binface Party. I can confirm that the answer's no.
    https://x.com/CountBinface/status/2074848010937258221

    Jenrick refuse-d.

    S
    Nigelb said:

    I can neither confirm nor deny that Robert Jenrick has asked to defect to the Count Binface Party. I can confirm that the answer's no.
    https://x.com/CountBinface/status/2074848010937258221

    Jenrick refuse-d.

    Surely should belong in recycling?
    Jenrick was on the Daily T this afternoon.

    Apparently, "Nigel is ready for the mother of all fights".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CliwVOjoULs
    Over what's left in the rubbish?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,910
    Nigelb said:

    Decent interview from Binface.
    https://x.com/mikegalsworthy/status/2074841060031787124

    Points out that if the good people of Clayton don't want to risk two by elections on the trot, there's an obvious remedy.

    Vote Count Binface rather than the Count of Dodgy Crypto.

    Someone needs to do a competition to write Binface's victory speech.

    "Actually, I should be in the Lords."
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,754
    edited 4:56PM
    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    Moron alert:

    We understand why some residents have raised concerns about fly-tipping, but there is no evidence that introducing charges for excess DIY waste leads to an increase.

    Yes there is you fucking imbecile. The ginormous increase in the amount of fly tipping.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy040xxz43o

    He's a LD.

    https://democracy.gloucester.gov.uk/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=1933
    And he’s likely right.

    My old council introduced free bulky waste collections, in an attempt to reduce fly tipping, and while the collections proved very popular with the people who were willing to phone to book the collection and would probably have paid prior, they made absolutely no impact with folks who couldn’t be arsed to do anything other than dump their mattress at night at the end of their road. So the amount of fly tipping continued unaffected.
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 1,410
    Nigelb said:

    Decent interview from Binface.
    https://x.com/mikegalsworthy/status/2074841060031787124

    Points out that if the good people of Clayton don't want to risk two by elections on the trot, there's an obvious remedy.

    Vote Count Binface rather than the Count of Dodgy Crypto.

    I'm not sure that the BBC will invite him back on after using 'reverse 69' and 'Boris Johnson' in thr same sentence.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 8,016
    Boris should join the bin fight
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,390
    welshowl said:

    welshowl said:

    KnightOut said:

    Trump back on about Greenland even as the Iran war restarts.

    Two more years of all this.

    Infantini really needs to reverse that Belgium result before the nukes are wheeled out.
    Greenland, oddly, is part of Denmark (#22 world rankings) when it comes to internatal football, even though the Faroe Islands (#123) get a separate team.

    It begs the question... would we be willing to give up 'En-ger-lund' and everything it means to us, in exchange for International football becoming aligned strictly and consistently with actual countries (e.g. the 'Pointless' definition, sovereign UN member state).

    It's notable that apart from the UK constituents, the only other non-country Nations to ever make a World Cup are Curacao and the former 'Dutch East Indies' colony back in 1938, so we really are an outlier. If I wasn't English, I'd find it a major irritation. Autist-triggering in a big way.

    (I guess technically some participating football nations aren't absolutely identical to the actual countries *because* of the lopped off bits - e.g. the Netherlands team excludes Curacao).
    One word answer: no.

    But a few thoughts.

    There are a bunch of non fully sovereign FIFA members like the Faroes, Gibraltar, and I’m sure various Dutch, French , and U.K. islands dotted about the Carribean and Pacific so it’s not a unique situation. Does this really matter to the football world? (Question did Austria-Hungary a team at all before 1914 and was it one or two? I’ve not googled it)

    Unifying the four UK teams would lead to endless bickering about whether X Scot was better than Y Welshman or Z Englishman. Nightmare.

    Circa 1975/80 a UK team would’ve been a lot better than England (Dalgleish/Jennings/ late Best/Jordan etc) but since about the mid 80’s, hand on heart only a relative a handful of non English are making a U.K. team consistently. Rush between Lineker and Sharer? Giggs and Bale get 100 caps each sure, beyond that ? Ramsey? Robertson? Scotland’s best player is probably McTominay but he’s not playing at the Azteca the other night when he’d be behind Bellingham, Rogers, Gibbs-White, Palmer and Foden in the queue.

    We codified the bloody game. One of our great gifts to the whole world, the greatest show on earth that truly unifies the planet, would not be taking place in the same vein right now unless some tweedy ex public school boys decided to draw up some rules on two bits of paper over 160 years ago. I think we deserve a bit of special status for that from the rest of Earth.




    Re Austria-Hungary - looked it up, they had separate teams.
    Though the World Cup only started in 1930 after the disbanding of Austria-Hungary.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,398
    No one seriously thinks Binface will do more than maybe hold his deposit, so to see at least one comment mocking it as though it were serious and centrist cope is an indication that, yes, centrist dads do not reflect on Farage without bias, but the attempt to counter that by treating jokes seriously, also becomes very silly indeed and can be contrarian for its own sake.

    It's the same as when any party wins a safe seat then pretends critics didnt think they would win.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 5,668
    Foxy said:

    welshowl said:

    welshowl said:

    KnightOut said:

    Trump back on about Greenland even as the Iran war restarts.

    Two more years of all this.

    Infantini really needs to reverse that Belgium result before the nukes are wheeled out.
    Greenland, oddly, is part of Denmark (#22 world rankings) when it comes to internatal football, even though the Faroe Islands (#123) get a separate team.

    It begs the question... would we be willing to give up 'En-ger-lund' and everything it means to us, in exchange for International football becoming aligned strictly and consistently with actual countries (e.g. the 'Pointless' definition, sovereign UN member state).

    It's notable that apart from the UK constituents, the only other non-country Nations to ever make a World Cup are Curacao and the former 'Dutch East Indies' colony back in 1938, so we really are an outlier. If I wasn't English, I'd find it a major irritation. Autist-triggering in a big way.

    (I guess technically some participating football nations aren't absolutely identical to the actual countries *because* of the lopped off bits - e.g. the Netherlands team excludes Curacao).
    One word answer: no.

    But a few thoughts.

    There are a bunch of non fully sovereign FIFA members like the Faroes, Gibraltar, and I’m sure various Dutch, French , and U.K. islands dotted about the Carribean and Pacific so it’s not a unique situation. Does this really matter to the football world? (Question did Austria-Hungary a team at all before 1914 and was it one or two? I’ve not googled it)

    Unifying the four UK teams would lead to endless bickering about whether X Scot was better than Y Welshman or Z Englishman. Nightmare.

    Circa 1975/80 a UK team would’ve been a lot better than England (Dalgleish/Jennings/ late Best/Jordan etc) but since about the mid 80’s, hand on heart only a relative a handful of non English are making a U.K. team consistently. Rush between Lineker and Sharer? Giggs and Bale get 100 caps each sure, beyond that ? Ramsey? Robertson? Scotland’s best player is probably McTominay but he’s not playing at the Azteca the other night when he’d be behind Bellingham, Rogers, Gibbs-White, Palmer and Foden in the queue.

    We codified the bloody game. One of our great gifts to the whole world, the greatest show on earth that truly unifies the planet, would not be taking place in the same vein right now unless some tweedy ex public school boys decided to draw up some rules on two bits of paper over 160 years ago. I think we deserve a bit of special status for that from the rest of Earth.




    Re Austria-Hungary - looked it up, they had separate teams.
    Though the World Cup only started in 1930 after the disbanding of Austria-Hungary.
    There were Olympic tournaments. Austria and Hungary entered separate teams in 1912 .
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,211
    An ally of Zack Polanski was allowed to stand as a Green Party councillor last year despite being cautioned by police for assaulting a teenager.

    Matthew Broadley, a former Labour activist who was pictured arm-in-arm with Mr Polanski, the Green leader, last month, allegedly slapped two teenagers on the bottom and discussed his “sexual conquests” with them on a drunken night in 2018.

    Mr Broadley was given a police caution for common assault against one victim after a complaint was made. He was also suspended from the Labour Party, of which he was a member at the time.

    He later switched to the Greens and was allowed to stand as a candidate for Kent county council at last year’s local elections, even though the party had been alerted to both the police caution and the broader allegations against him.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/07/08/polanski-ally-cautioned-assaulted-teenager/
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,211
    edited 5:09PM
    Met Police officer who shot Chris Kaba in south London unlikely to face further action

    https://news.sky.com/story/met-police-officer-to-face-no-further-action-after-fatal-shooting-of-chris-kaba-in-south-london-13561688

    4 years to resolve this and 2 years after the court case. The fact there was even any suggestion he should after the court case and all the evidence is ridiculous. A highly dangerous and often armed career criminal wanted for murder ignored all their commands, tried to run over police officers, and was ultimiately shot. This was no British George Flloyd incident or even Charles de Menezes. They acted with highlly professionally in a very dangerous moving situation.
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,538
    edited 5:09PM
    Foxy said:

    welshowl said:

    welshowl said:

    KnightOut said:

    Trump back on about Greenland even as the Iran war restarts.

    Two more years of all this.

    Infantini really needs to reverse that Belgium result before the nukes are wheeled out.
    Greenland, oddly, is part of Denmark (#22 world rankings) when it comes to internatal football, even though the Faroe Islands (#123) get a separate team.

    It begs the question... would we be willing to give up 'En-ger-lund' and everything it means to us, in exchange for International football becoming aligned strictly and consistently with actual countries (e.g. the 'Pointless' definition, sovereign UN member state).

    It's notable that apart from the UK constituents, the only other non-country Nations to ever make a World Cup are Curacao and the former 'Dutch East Indies' colony back in 1938, so we really are an outlier. If I wasn't English, I'd find it a major irritation. Autist-triggering in a big way.

    (I guess technically some participating football nations aren't absolutely identical to the actual countries *because* of the lopped off bits - e.g. the Netherlands team excludes Curacao).
    One word answer: no.

    But a few thoughts.

    There are a bunch of non fully sovereign FIFA members like the Faroes, Gibraltar, and I’m sure various Dutch, French , and U.K. islands dotted about the Carribean and Pacific so it’s not a unique situation. Does this really matter to the football world? (Question did Austria-Hungary a team at all before 1914 and was it one or two? I’ve not googled it)

    Unifying the four UK teams would lead to endless bickering about whether X Scot was better than Y Welshman or Z Englishman. Nightmare.

    Circa 1975/80 a UK team would’ve been a lot better than England (Dalgleish/Jennings/ late Best/Jordan etc) but since about the mid 80’s, hand on heart only a relative a handful of non English are making a U.K. team consistently. Rush between Lineker and Sharer? Giggs and Bale get 100 caps each sure, beyond that ? Ramsey? Robertson? Scotland’s best player is probably McTominay but he’s not playing at the Azteca the other night when he’d be behind Bellingham, Rogers, Gibbs-White, Palmer and Foden in the queue.

    We codified the bloody game. One of our great gifts to the whole world, the greatest show on earth that truly unifies the planet, would not be taking place in the same vein right now unless some tweedy ex public school boys decided to draw up some rules on two bits of paper over 160 years ago. I think we deserve a bit of special status for that from the rest of Earth.




    Re Austria-Hungary - looked it up, they had separate teams.
    Though the World Cup only started in 1930 after the disbanding of Austria-Hungary.
    Sure. I was interested if they played matches as a one or a two. Turns out it was a two, which might’ve had some bearing in the early days of FIFA, as when England got round to looking to join in about 1906, I think FIFA initially said it had to be a U.K. membership, to which was replied words to the effect of bugger off we’ve been playing internationals for 35 odd years now and you’re an upstart organisation in our game, at which point FIFA partially folded and said ok to England and Scotland but not Wales and Ireland ( then one team of course), but having conceded to the first two quickly realised they couldn’t really deny Wales and Ireland separate membership without looking a bit daft. I suppose they already (?) had the Hapsburgs as a precedent.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,398
    Nigelb said:

    Burnham endorses.

    Always worth knowing when bin day is.
    https://x.com/andyburnham/status/2074800707346067911

    Too much official endorsement will take out the fun, so back off Andy.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,967

    tlg86 said:

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    Educated at King's Wimbledon. He's English.
    Got to say he sounds like an educated SW Londoner. But his Mum and Dad are French people who live in SW London.
    He's as English as Sunak.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,085
    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    Educated at King's Wimbledon. He's English.
    Got to say he sounds like an educated SW Londoner. But his Mum and Dad are French people who live in SW London.
    He's as English as Sunak.
    He just got into the semi-finals.

    He's now definitely English.

  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,544
    Just checked Ladbrokes. They seem to think Binface has a significantly better chance than Fox. What a lark.


  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,196

    Ddi they hit Pearl Harbor?
    Did Michael Bay miss the point?
    What a maroon. Everyone knows the Germans bombed Pearl Harbour.

    https://youtu.be/V8lT1o0sDwI?is=183LuWGa4mL0qDyM
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,196
    kle4 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Burnham endorses.

    Always worth knowing when bin day is.
    https://x.com/andyburnham/status/2074800707346067911

    Too much official endorsement will take out the fun, so back off Andy.
    Breaking - OpenAI outage was caused by U.K. IP addresses asking about bin/Farage related puns
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,258
    MattW said:

    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    I can neither confirm nor deny that Robert Jenrick has asked to defect to the Count Binface Party. I can confirm that the answer's no.
    https://x.com/CountBinface/status/2074848010937258221

    Jenrick refuse-d.

    S
    Nigelb said:

    I can neither confirm nor deny that Robert Jenrick has asked to defect to the Count Binface Party. I can confirm that the answer's no.
    https://x.com/CountBinface/status/2074848010937258221

    Jenrick refuse-d.

    Surely should belong in recycling?
    Jenrick was on the Daily T this afternoon.

    Apparently, "Nigel is ready for the mother of all fights".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CliwVOjoULs
    ... against a bloke with a bin on his head.

    It's like the "in my pants" game. There is nothing that isn't made amusingly absurd by adding a bloke with a bin on his head on the end.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,763
    edited 5:31PM
    Battlebus said:

    Just checked Ladbrokes. They seem to think Binface has a significantly better chance than Fox. What a lark.


    Hills have Reform at 1/7 for the Clacton Apprentice Handicap. Rumours of a strained fetlock? EIPH? Binface quicker on trial gallops? He's at 7/2.

    As yet of course there can be no official runners and riders, as nominations are not yet open. Reform could run a pacemaker and then withdraw the main horse. Ante post betting is a dangerous game.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,085
    Reform shying away from a long campaign in Clacton.

    They want 6th apparently.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,085
    Reform shying away from a long campaign in Clacton.

    They want 6th apparently.

  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 11,162
    Afternoon PB.

    Le Comte de Bin now 4-1 on Willam Hill.
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,236
    eek said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Josh Simons, okay to resign seat.
    Andy Burnham, okay to resign mayoralty.
    Nigel Farage, not okay to resign seat.

    Josh Simons, resigning because he doesn't want job anymore
    Andy Burnham, resigning because he wants new job
    Nigel Farage, resigning just to get old job back

    If you can't see which of the above three is not normal behaviour then you really are living in a bubble.
    And Farage isn’t even resigning to protest against something he’s resigning so he can fight a by-election before his crimes are published in full gory detail.

    And he’s did that in the hope that he could avoid a second by-election after those gory details are published

    And because everyone saw through him he now gets to spend 4 weeks campaigning against a joke candidate who will know how to wing him up and make Farage into a bigger joke than he already is
    It will also guarantee 4 weeks of everyone talking about Farage/Reform's dodgy financial dealings.

    By the time we get to the by-election there won't be a soul in the land who hasn't heard about Farage's dodgy £5m "gift" from the crypto guy.

    Panic or desperation? Take your pick
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,544

    Reform shying away from a long campaign in Clacton.

    They want 6th apparently.

    Only 6 more sitting days before recess so they better get a wriggle on. Agent Anderson needs to do his bit.

    The motion in the House of Commons is conventionally moved by the chief whip of the party of the outgoing MP (so in this case Lee Anderson MP for Reform UK). The day after the warrant and writ are issued by the Clerk is day 1 of the official by-election campaign timetable


    https://x.com/RuthFox01/status/2074554620844605537
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,003
    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    Moron alert:

    We understand why some residents have raised concerns about fly-tipping, but there is no evidence that introducing charges for excess DIY waste leads to an increase.

    Yes there is you fucking imbecile. The ginormous increase in the amount of fly tipping.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy040xxz43o

    He's a LD.

    https://democracy.gloucester.gov.uk/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=1933
    And he’s likely right.

    My old council introduced free bulky waste collections, in an attempt to reduce fly tipping, and while the collections proved very popular with the people who were willing to phone to book the collection and would probably have paid prior, they made absolutely no impact with folks who couldn’t be arsed to do anything other than dump their mattress at night at the end of their road. So the amount of fly tipping continued unaffected.
    We have that, although the council's new posters do seem to have had some effect. I swear some people don't realise the council take away stuff for free. There was a bloke in the betting shop who would wake up to an extra couple of full bins each week on collection day. But the real fly-tipping scandal is on an industrial scale (thousands of tons) by what we now call organised crime groups.

  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,872

    tlg86 said:

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    Educated at King's Wimbledon. He's English.
    I was obviously joking. Not to go down the rabbit hole of nationality (which i find a bit boring tbh), but I think he moved to UK when he was a few months old, so its not exactly Greg Rusedski scenario. Or there was a really promising junior player who switched, then switched again, in fact I think even more times than that as he never really made it and bounced around whichever country would fund his training.
    Raducanu's qualified for at least three countries. IIRC.
    She can pull out injured under a variety of flags you mean.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,872

    Reform shying away from a long campaign in Clacton.

    They want 6th apparently.

    I thought there were only two candidates.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 81,289
    Andy_JS said:

    If you like maps, there's one on this page showing how many properties are eligible for the mansion tax.

    https://taxpolicy.org.uk/2026/07/07/mansion-tax-1-5m-burnham/

    12 properties in my constituency. The Coventry/Kenilworth divide huge (And most Coventry £1.5M+ properties are v close to Kenilworth)
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,744
    tlg86 said:

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    Educated at King's Wimbledon. He's English.
    As discussed many times on PB identity is complex. I’d suggest Fery is far more English, having grown up in London round the corner from Wimbledon, than almost all the ‘residency’ qualified rugby players (such as van de Merwe) for example.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,744

    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    Moron alert:

    We understand why some residents have raised concerns about fly-tipping, but there is no evidence that introducing charges for excess DIY waste leads to an increase.

    Yes there is you fucking imbecile. The ginormous increase in the amount of fly tipping.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy040xxz43o

    He's a LD.

    https://democracy.gloucester.gov.uk/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=1933
    And he’s likely right.

    My old council introduced free bulky waste collections, in an attempt to reduce fly tipping, and while the collections proved very popular with the people who were willing to phone to book the collection and would probably have paid prior, they made absolutely no impact with folks who couldn’t be arsed to do anything other than dump their mattress at night at the end of their road. So the amount of fly tipping continued unaffected.
    We have that, although the council's new posters do seem to have had some effect. I swear some people don't realise the council take away stuff for free. There was a bloke in the betting shop who would wake up to an extra couple of full bins each week on collection day. But the real fly-tipping scandal is on an industrial scale (thousands of tons) by what we now call organised crime groups.

    The maddening thing is idiots such as one near here who drove further away from the local tip to get rid of some domestic rubbish. He actually made his life harder by fly tipping. Madness.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 5,625
    Battlebus said:

    Just checked Ladbrokes. They seem to think Binface has a significantly better chance than Fox. What a lark.


    Binface has name recognition.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,582
    MattW said:

    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    I can neither confirm nor deny that Robert Jenrick has asked to defect to the Count Binface Party. I can confirm that the answer's no.
    https://x.com/CountBinface/status/2074848010937258221

    Jenrick refuse-d.

    S
    Nigelb said:

    I can neither confirm nor deny that Robert Jenrick has asked to defect to the Count Binface Party. I can confirm that the answer's no.
    https://x.com/CountBinface/status/2074848010937258221

    Jenrick refuse-d.

    Surely should belong in recycling?
    Jenrick was on the Daily T this afternoon.

    Apparently, "Nigel is ready for the mother of all fights".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CliwVOjoULs
    Jenrick is rapidly becoming the party's main spokesman.
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,311
    Nigelb said:

    I can neither confirm nor deny that Robert Jenrick has asked to defect to the Count Binface Party. I can confirm that the answer's no.
    https://x.com/CountBinface/status/2074848010937258221

    Jenrick refuse-d.

    Sheesh, Twitter (sorry, X) is absolutely unusable these days, isn't it?

    5 years ago, after a tweet like that you'd find a bunch of alternately erudite, amusing or informed responses underneath it, probably from a bunch of journalists, Twitter personalities and people who'd just said something funny.

    Now the top response is "If you are going to use this election for self promotion and selling books, fine, make your silly points and have a good time. But if you start to stray into helping the Uniparty message, then in effect, you have become the establishment. Is that your legacy, government puppet?"
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,645
    edited 5:54PM
    OllyT said:

    eek said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Josh Simons, okay to resign seat.
    Andy Burnham, okay to resign mayoralty.
    Nigel Farage, not okay to resign seat.

    Josh Simons, resigning because he doesn't want job anymore
    Andy Burnham, resigning because he wants new job
    Nigel Farage, resigning just to get old job back

    If you can't see which of the above three is not normal behaviour then you really are living in a bubble.
    And Farage isn’t even resigning to protest against something he’s resigning so he can fight a by-election before his crimes are published in full gory detail.

    And he’s did that in the hope that he could avoid a second by-election after those gory details are published

    And because everyone saw through him he now gets to spend 4 weeks campaigning against a joke candidate who will know how to wing him up and make Farage into a bigger joke than he already is
    It will also guarantee 4 weeks of everyone talking about Farage/Reform's dodgy financial dealings.

    By the time we get to the by-election there won't be a soul in the land who hasn't heard about Farage's dodgy £5m "gift" from the crypto guy.

    Panic or desperation? Take your pick
    60% do not think Farage has been honest

    12% do

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2074744857218675072?s=20
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,574

    Nigelb said:

    I can neither confirm nor deny that Robert Jenrick has asked to defect to the Count Binface Party. I can confirm that the answer's no.
    https://x.com/CountBinface/status/2074848010937258221

    Jenrick refuse-d.

    Sheesh, Twitter (sorry, X) is absolutely unusable these days, isn't it?

    5 years ago, after a tweet like that you'd find a bunch of alternately erudite, amusing or informed responses underneath it, probably from a bunch of journalists, Twitter personalities and people who'd just said something funny.

    Now the top response is "If you are going to use this election for self promotion and selling books, fine, make your silly points and have a good time. But if you start to stray into helping the Uniparty message, then in effect, you have become the establishment. Is that your legacy, government puppet?"
    There's too many people who have had a sense of humour bypass, like on PB.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 8,378

    tlg86 said:

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    Educated at King's Wimbledon. He's English.
    As discussed many times on PB identity is complex. I’d suggest Fery is far more English, having grown up in London round the corner from Wimbledon, than almost all the ‘residency’ qualified rugby players (such as van de Merwe) for example.
    I'd say that makes him a French Londoner, if anything
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,373
    FOOTBALL... MUST... HAVE... FOOTBALL...
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,761
    Interesting to see Tory supporters almost perfectly split on the polling question. Still a lot of warm feelings for Farage among Tories, even in the core vote that hasn't yet switched support.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,744

    tlg86 said:

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    Educated at King's Wimbledon. He's English.
    As discussed many times on PB identity is complex. I’d suggest Fery is far more English, having grown up in London round the corner from Wimbledon, than almost all the ‘residency’ qualified rugby players (such as van de Merwe) for example.
    I'd say that makes him a French Londoner, if anything
    When I post doc’d in NZ in the late 1990’s I met a chap who was born in the U.K. but who had moved to NZ as a baby. You would not find a more ardent Kiwi. Even to the point that he couldn’t eat hot curries or drink beer.* Being born in a stable does not make you a horse, although having horses for parents might make it more likely.**

    *This is true. kiwi curries are generally really mild and they find U.K. versions really spicy.

    **The Duke of Wellington was fond of the first bit, but I’ve embellished the second….
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,824
    boulay said:

    KnightOut said:

    Trump back on about Greenland even as the Iran war restarts.

    Two more years of all this.

    Infantini really needs to reverse that Belgium result before the nukes are wheeled out.
    Greenland, oddly, is part of Denmark (#22 world rankings) when it comes to internatal football, even though the Faroe Islands (#123) get a separate team.

    It begs the question... would we be willing to give up 'En-ger-lund' and everything it means to us, in exchange for International football becoming aligned strictly and consistently with actual countries (e.g. the 'Pointless' definition, sovereign UN member state).

    It's notable that apart from the UK constituents, the only other non-country Nations to ever make a World Cup are Curacao and the former 'Dutch East Indies' colony back in 1938, so we really are an outlier. If I wasn't English, I'd find it a major irritation. Autist-triggering in a big way.

    (I guess technically some participating football nations aren't absolutely identical to the actual countries *because* of the lopped off bits - e.g. the Netherlands team excludes Curacao).
    Apart from athletics, where is 'Great Britain' still a sporting concept?
    Rugby League.
    Eh? We haven’t competed as GB in rugby league for two decades! Do you actually follow the sport?

    The Olympics is the weird outlier. No idea why as Hong Kong and I believe Aruba also have their own Olympic teams.

    No team sport is organised on a GB basis outside the Olympics as far as I know. And nor should they be.

    (Tennis / Davis Cup okay but not really a team sport or a good example)
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,187

    boulay said:

    KnightOut said:

    Trump back on about Greenland even as the Iran war restarts.

    Two more years of all this.

    Infantini really needs to reverse that Belgium result before the nukes are wheeled out.
    Greenland, oddly, is part of Denmark (#22 world rankings) when it comes to internatal football, even though the Faroe Islands (#123) get a separate team.

    It begs the question... would we be willing to give up 'En-ger-lund' and everything it means to us, in exchange for International football becoming aligned strictly and consistently with actual countries (e.g. the 'Pointless' definition, sovereign UN member state).

    It's notable that apart from the UK constituents, the only other non-country Nations to ever make a World Cup are Curacao and the former 'Dutch East Indies' colony back in 1938, so we really are an outlier. If I wasn't English, I'd find it a major irritation. Autist-triggering in a big way.

    (I guess technically some participating football nations aren't absolutely identical to the actual countries *because* of the lopped off bits - e.g. the Netherlands team excludes Curacao).
    Apart from athletics, where is 'Great Britain' still a sporting concept?
    Rugby League.
    Eh? We haven’t competed as GB in rugby league for two decades! Do you actually follow the sport?

    The Olympics is the weird outlier. No idea why as Hong Kong and I believe Aruba also have their own Olympic teams.

    No team sport is organised on a GB basis outside the Olympics as far as I know. And nor should they be.

    (Tennis / Davis Cup okay but not really a team sport or a good example)
    2019 might have been just before Covid which might feel like a different era, but its not actually two decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Great_Britain_Lions_tour
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,824

    boulay said:

    KnightOut said:

    Trump back on about Greenland even as the Iran war restarts.

    Two more years of all this.

    Infantini really needs to reverse that Belgium result before the nukes are wheeled out.
    Greenland, oddly, is part of Denmark (#22 world rankings) when it comes to internatal football, even though the Faroe Islands (#123) get a separate team.

    It begs the question... would we be willing to give up 'En-ger-lund' and everything it means to us, in exchange for International football becoming aligned strictly and consistently with actual countries (e.g. the 'Pointless' definition, sovereign UN member state).

    It's notable that apart from the UK constituents, the only other non-country Nations to ever make a World Cup are Curacao and the former 'Dutch East Indies' colony back in 1938, so we really are an outlier. If I wasn't English, I'd find it a major irritation. Autist-triggering in a big way.

    (I guess technically some participating football nations aren't absolutely identical to the actual countries *because* of the lopped off bits - e.g. the Netherlands team excludes Curacao).
    Apart from athletics, where is 'Great Britain' still a sporting concept?
    Rugby League.
    Eh? We haven’t competed as GB in rugby league for two decades! Do you actually follow the sport?

    The Olympics is the weird outlier. No idea why as Hong Kong and I believe Aruba also have their own Olympic teams.

    No team sport is organised on a GB basis outside the Olympics as far as I know. And nor should they be.

    (Tennis / Davis Cup okay but not really a team sport or a good example)
    2019 might have been just before Covid which might feel like a different era, but its not actually two decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Great_Britain_Lions_tour
    That’s a Lions tour - equivalent to a Lions tour in Union.

    It no way contravenes my point.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,187

    boulay said:

    KnightOut said:

    Trump back on about Greenland even as the Iran war restarts.

    Two more years of all this.

    Infantini really needs to reverse that Belgium result before the nukes are wheeled out.
    Greenland, oddly, is part of Denmark (#22 world rankings) when it comes to internatal football, even though the Faroe Islands (#123) get a separate team.

    It begs the question... would we be willing to give up 'En-ger-lund' and everything it means to us, in exchange for International football becoming aligned strictly and consistently with actual countries (e.g. the 'Pointless' definition, sovereign UN member state).

    It's notable that apart from the UK constituents, the only other non-country Nations to ever make a World Cup are Curacao and the former 'Dutch East Indies' colony back in 1938, so we really are an outlier. If I wasn't English, I'd find it a major irritation. Autist-triggering in a big way.

    (I guess technically some participating football nations aren't absolutely identical to the actual countries *because* of the lopped off bits - e.g. the Netherlands team excludes Curacao).
    Apart from athletics, where is 'Great Britain' still a sporting concept?
    Rugby League.
    Eh? We haven’t competed as GB in rugby league for two decades! Do you actually follow the sport?

    The Olympics is the weird outlier. No idea why as Hong Kong and I believe Aruba also have their own Olympic teams.

    No team sport is organised on a GB basis outside the Olympics as far as I know. And nor should they be.

    (Tennis / Davis Cup okay but not really a team sport or a good example)
    2019 might have been just before Covid which might feel like a different era, but its not actually two decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Great_Britain_Lions_tour
    That’s a Lions tour - equivalent to a Lions tour in Union.

    It no way contravenes my point.
    I know exactly what it is, and it is an exception absolutely (as it is with Union) but we still technically competed as GB then, which is more recent than two decades ago. So it contravenes the line "We haven’t competed as GB in rugby league for two decades!" We did in 2019, as a Lions tour, but still as GB.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,398

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    Educated at King's Wimbledon. He's English.
    Got to say he sounds like an educated SW Londoner. But his Mum and Dad are French people who live in SW London.
    He's as English as Sunak.
    He just got into the semi-finals.

    He's now definitely English.

    How posh is his accent? That's the true test.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,390

    OllyT said:

    eek said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Josh Simons, okay to resign seat.
    Andy Burnham, okay to resign mayoralty.
    Nigel Farage, not okay to resign seat.

    Josh Simons, resigning because he doesn't want job anymore
    Andy Burnham, resigning because he wants new job
    Nigel Farage, resigning just to get old job back

    If you can't see which of the above three is not normal behaviour then you really are living in a bubble.
    And Farage isn’t even resigning to protest against something he’s resigning so he can fight a by-election before his crimes are published in full gory detail.

    And he’s did that in the hope that he could avoid a second by-election after those gory details are published

    And because everyone saw through him he now gets to spend 4 weeks campaigning against a joke candidate who will know how to wing him up and make Farage into a bigger joke than he already is
    It will also guarantee 4 weeks of everyone talking about Farage/Reform's dodgy financial dealings.

    By the time we get to the by-election there won't be a soul in the land who hasn't heard about Farage's dodgy £5m "gift" from the crypto guy.

    Panic or desperation? Take your pick
    60% do not think Farage has been honest

    12% do

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2074744857218675072?s=20
    The money was just resting in his account.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,390
    kle4 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Frenchman Englishman Arthur Fery 2 sets up in the tennis.....

    Educated at King's Wimbledon. He's English.
    Got to say he sounds like an educated SW Londoner. But his Mum and Dad are French people who live in SW London.
    He's as English as Sunak.
    He just got into the semi-finals.

    He's now definitely English.

    How posh is his accent? That's the true test.
    If he went to Kings School Wimbledon it should be posh enough.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,398

    OllyT said:

    eek said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Josh Simons, okay to resign seat.
    Andy Burnham, okay to resign mayoralty.
    Nigel Farage, not okay to resign seat.

    Josh Simons, resigning because he doesn't want job anymore
    Andy Burnham, resigning because he wants new job
    Nigel Farage, resigning just to get old job back

    If you can't see which of the above three is not normal behaviour then you really are living in a bubble.
    And Farage isn’t even resigning to protest against something he’s resigning so he can fight a by-election before his crimes are published in full gory detail.

    And he’s did that in the hope that he could avoid a second by-election after those gory details are published

    And because everyone saw through him he now gets to spend 4 weeks campaigning against a joke candidate who will know how to wing him up and make Farage into a bigger joke than he already is
    It will also guarantee 4 weeks of everyone talking about Farage/Reform's dodgy financial dealings.

    By the time we get to the by-election there won't be a soul in the land who hasn't heard about Farage's dodgy £5m "gift" from the crypto guy.

    Panic or desperation? Take your pick
    60% do not think Farage has been honest

    12% do

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2074744857218675072?s=20
    A bit low on the 'honest' to mean it is a direct copy of general levels of Reform support/opposition.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,398

    Nigelb said:

    I can neither confirm nor deny that Robert Jenrick has asked to defect to the Count Binface Party. I can confirm that the answer's no.
    https://x.com/CountBinface/status/2074848010937258221

    Jenrick refuse-d.

    Sheesh, Twitter (sorry, X) is absolutely unusable these days, isn't it?

    5 years ago, after a tweet like that you'd find a bunch of alternately erudite, amusing or informed responses underneath it, probably from a bunch of journalists, Twitter personalities and people who'd just said something funny.

    Now the top response is "If you are going to use this election for self promotion and selling books, fine, make your silly points and have a good time. But if you start to stray into helping the Uniparty message, then in effect, you have become the establishment. Is that your legacy, government puppet?"
    People are either entirely unserious, or entirely too serious, with no middle ground.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,872

    FOOTBALL... MUST... HAVE... FOOTBALL...

    Conference League qualifiers.
    Connah's Quay Nomads 0 Ballkani 0 halftime at the Blue Turtle Arena.
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  • DriverDriver Posts: 5,668

    boulay said:

    KnightOut said:

    Trump back on about Greenland even as the Iran war restarts.

    Two more years of all this.

    Infantini really needs to reverse that Belgium result before the nukes are wheeled out.
    Greenland, oddly, is part of Denmark (#22 world rankings) when it comes to internatal football, even though the Faroe Islands (#123) get a separate team.

    It begs the question... would we be willing to give up 'En-ger-lund' and everything it means to us, in exchange for International football becoming aligned strictly and consistently with actual countries (e.g. the 'Pointless' definition, sovereign UN member state).

    It's notable that apart from the UK constituents, the only other non-country Nations to ever make a World Cup are Curacao and the former 'Dutch East Indies' colony back in 1938, so we really are an outlier. If I wasn't English, I'd find it a major irritation. Autist-triggering in a big way.

    (I guess technically some participating football nations aren't absolutely identical to the actual countries *because* of the lopped off bits - e.g. the Netherlands team excludes Curacao).
    Apart from athletics, where is 'Great Britain' still a sporting concept?
    Rugby League.
    Eh? We haven’t competed as GB in rugby league for two decades! Do you actually follow the sport?

    The Olympics is the weird outlier. No idea why as Hong Kong and I believe Aruba also have their own Olympic teams.

    No team sport is organised on a GB basis outside the Olympics as far as I know. And nor should they be.

    (Tennis / Davis Cup okay but not really a team sport or a good example)
    Quite a few sports that are bigger abroad than here are - GB compete at a reasonable level internationally in baseball, ice hockey and to a lesser extent basketball.
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