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Daily Mail chooses Easter Sunday to attack Christians for feeding the poor. #WWJD pic.twitter.com/ow3PvM28Vk
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Tick, tock.
Not all of them are reading it to be offended by it.....
Besides which, if we're picking an Easter story from the Daily Mail, shouldn't this be it? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2608789/Easter-Clegg-Labour-created-festive-treat-shape-Lib-Dem-leader-Nick-Clegg-completely-hollow-melts-heat.html
This is a day for love and peace anyway.It 4:20 day celebrating the cannabis plant.I hope people all observe the tobacco smoking ban in public places.Tobacco is a very harmful contaminant so keep it pure.
Happy Easter Sunday everyone.
The Mail does like to live down to its reputation though.
Kate and Wills appear to enjoy Sydney zoo just as much as George as the duchess discovers that koalas really do smell of eucalyptus
*chortle*
Hard hitting copy I know. Yet even that pales into comparison to the rest of the excoriating celeb gossip on the right attract column. Which is where the Mail captures the overwhelming majority of it's 'readers' and views due to some very clever search algorithms, complete devotion to chasing that celeb traffic and headlines which exploit them to the full.
That's where the Mail is hammering it's competition while Dacre and his beloved hard copy looks like an apoplectic dinosaur bumbling into politics with ever more comically counterproductive results. Something Rothermere is all too aware of.
One of those models has a future, one does not.
If Dacre's obsequious fanclub can't spot the obvious that would be entirely their problem.
What scandal have they unearthed...if you lie, the gatekeepers and charities take you at your word. If you plead poverty they will bend their own rules to give you another food package. Some people are probably exploiting the good nature of the charities to take more than the rules set by the charity themselves (I presume so they don't run out of supplies).
That really isn't exactly explosive stuff.
It is pretty obvious this was the case. Giving out free stuff, some people are going to try and take advantage. All the Mail got was some random comments about the odd person people working at the food banks know are gaming the system.
We know that the guy in charge is a Labour supporter and has spun the figures a bit to get a headline grabber the other week, but the Daily Mails undercover scoop doesn't really add up to anything. They would have been better off just junking the undercover work when that is all they turned up.
The print edition is still out-read four to one vs the Guardian and ten-to one vs the Independent.......which do you think will be around longest?
If the rise of food banks is used as a political weapon, the functioning of food banks will be subject to political comment and scrutiny.
Not hard to tell he's been hitting the bottle again, is it?
Lets presume for a second, that it is found there is some huge scandal to do with the charity behind a large number of food banks, or individuals involved with them (I am not saying for a second there is)...if the Daily Mail was to break that story, people would just turn around and say but you have it in for them, look at this....
They don't seemed to have learned from the Ralph Miliband headline / OTT hatch job on him...when a simple article in relation to the facts probably would have had the same effect on its readers. When they tried the attack in relation to PIE, that was severely blunted by this.
From Cornwall, in The Western Morning News :
“The facts speak for themselves. The Scottish Parliament already promotes more people-friendly and socialist policies than its counterpart in Westminster. It has a more efficient health service, a more enlightened education system, a pledge to create a non-nuclear defence force, and a commitment to re-nationalise essential industries and utilities. Who wouldn’t want to live in a nation with such aspirations?”
Read more: http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/Scottish-independence-affect-South-West/story-20986178-detail/story.html#ixzz2zQZzlDpk
Panelbase poll 04/04/2014 No lead 5 points
Change in 2 years Zero
You're predicating a political influence that flies in the face of every new election result and every year that passes. The tory friendly press launched a blitzkrieg on Farage and the kippers before last May and will almost certainly do so again.
How did that turn out?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/UK_opinion_polling_2010-2015.png
Anyone who realises that nationalisation (even of just 'essential industries and utilities') does not necessarily mean better or cheaper services, as has been shown many times in the past. Nationalisation and privatisation are tools; when misused they often make things much worse.
What's the evidence for a 'more efficient health service'? That's a genuine question: is there some study I've missed?
TNS/BMRB poll April 2014 No lead 14 points
Change Zero
Ipsos Mori poll Dec 2013 No lead 23 points
Ipsos Mori poll End Fen 2013 No lead 25 points
Change No lead up by 2
Growth is connected specifically to two things:
Greater awareness
Public bodies being allowed to give referrals. Referral to food banks was blocked by the labour government for any departmental government body.
Not only were Job Centres and other public bodies barred from issuing vouchers, they were barred from "sign posting".
The policy of DWP is now “it is the policy for all Jobcentre Plus branches to signpost people to food banks where it is appropriate to do so”
The policy under your government was to pretend they didnt exist.
Paul Lewis @paullewismoney 51m
Donations pour in to @TrussellTrust after Mail reporter lied to get food for article criticising foodbank charity http://goo.gl/GLdwOp
Every cloud and all that.
Just make up some pretend anecdote with an Swiss/American financier then it becomes comedy gold.
*chortle*
ROFL
http://www.eastleighnews.co.uk/2014/04/ukip-top-general-election-poll-in-eastleigh/
LOL
By all means keep digging away furiously. This is not hilarious AT ALL.
Any competent mathematician/statistician will tell you there is no trend there at all
http://express.co.uk/scotland/471450/COMMENT-Patriotism-not-nationalism-is-basis-for-independence-vote
Lord Ashcroft @LordAshcroft
Just listening to the No campaign to Scottish independence I might even be tempted to vote YES.
I was in the library last month, and a gentleman got up from a table in front of posters for a food bank and asked me if I knew of anyone who would like to avail themselves of the bank. He seemed fairly keen for me to go along.
Mind you, that could say more about me than about food banks.
Could it be the same effete mockney hypocritically berating the incompetent Clegg spinner for doing the same?
'But there must be vastly amusing quotes for that' you say? Indeed there is.
Gertcha! Mashed potatoes.
For a start, the headline is inaccurate (dishonest?????). It says "no questions asked" whereas in fact, as the story makes plain, the reporter had his story carefully worked out, so that he could lie convincingly to the CAB worker.
#ChasnMick
Trussell Trust has seen a surge in donations today, so some good has come out of it.
For when you eventually sober up obviously.
@LordAshcroft: Fascinating Survation poll in Eastleigh: UKIP 32% CON 28% LDEM 27% LAB 12%
@LordRennard: .. and the margin error on 500 sample is? And were candidates identified and people reminded of last result etc.?
@LordAshcroft: ...not my poll...direct your questions to Survation...
http://beestonia.wordpress.com/author/beestonia/
"Members of the Political Betting site say Ladbrokes in Eastleigh are currently offering 4/1 on Ukip winning here in 2015"
Why not "Ladbrokes are currently offering 4/1 on UKIP winning the seat in 2015", or even better spend 10 second looking it up and put the actual latest odds.
http://www.eastleighnews.co.uk/2014/04/ukip-top-general-election-poll-in-eastleigh/
There was the amusing case of the twin setup recently which is where we are right now with an increasingly desperate press. Of course the one bunch almost guaranteed to fall for a set-up are MPs as they keep imagining slighlty odd looking people offering them wodges of cash for basically nothing is perfectly normal. Hence the continuing expenses farces.
Greenslade does add this at the end interestingly. He's quite right on both counts. The rumours were getting loud nor is this the first time they have been heard. Difference is this time around the climate has never been less friendly and cut-throat.
Whether this is due to complexity, understaffing or lack of interest is something that people can reasonably debate. That it's a scandal is not really in dispute, and blaming food banks for failing to impose sufficient scrutiny is a ridiculous distraction.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2608675/Shamed-Co-op-boss-quizzed-cover-child-sex-Cyril-Smith-school-Flowers-targeted-QC-suppressed-reports-exposing-horrific-sweet-shop-paedophiles.html
Seems rather weak, but any link with Labour figures rather makes Simon Danzcuk's campaign seem even more partisan.
I have to say though I am always uncomfortable with politicians going around interviewing potential victims / witnesses and writing a book, rather than if they uncover evidence passing it over to the police.
I don't read the Mail. But if there's one thing that tempts me to leap to its defence, it's the sort of people who attack it and how they attack it.
Of course, The Sun or even The Express don't get anything like the same flak. I think it annoys lefties how continuingly successful and influential the Mail is. They really would rather it shut down and went out of business, using any means possible.
Alex Salmond really must be pissing himself laughing. The "Better Together" campaign couldn't have played into his hands more if they tried (the refusal to put "devo-max" on the ballot paper, the laughable scaremongering on the currency, the unattractive personalities at the top of the BT campaign, the enlisting of hated big-business fat cats and "Eurocrats" to try and support their argument, the general woeful quality of all the UK parties' policies which makes staying in the UK seem more pointless, etc.).
That's the thing about today's generation of politicians -- everyone agrees they're more unprincipled and less charismatic than previous generations, but I honestly think they're worse at basic politics and tactics too. Any fool outside of the Westminster bubble would've been able to tell you that most of those moves were terrible ideas.
We are a rich country. That there has been an explosion in people having to rely on charity to eat is an outrage, the embodiment of a broken system as presided over by both parties. That people choose to attack the starving to make a political point doesn't surprise me one bit. Nor does the alleged Christian faith of IDS and Cameron. And Blair for that matter. Politicians should be very careful spouting their faith when their policies are directly contradictory - Nicholls and Welsby unite in their condemnation of government policies. Ordinarily I can't support the churches intervening in politics - unless politicians claim to be men of faith. No politician or political party can wash its hands in faith and survive without coming across as gross hypocrites - they really should have learned from the American examples where so many Christian politicians appear to have Bibles that consist solely of a few pages from Genesis, Leviticus and Revelation.
* Wonga-level loans, digging deeper into debt
* Food banks
* Crime
Understaffing the offices that decide is a false economy. It's stupid. It's cruel. And it's completely ridiculous to blame the food banks for it.