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Behind the US public turn against Israel: Diminishing views of @Netanyahu.2023: 31% have confidence in him, 42% have no confidence (net -11)2026: 27% have confidence in him, 59% have no confidence (net -32)via Pew Research poll
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Earlier, @BartholomewRoberts raised the question of whether the rise in the amount of criticism of Israel in the West was due to more Muslims.
So, I decided to do some digging. The Pew Research Center is probably the best resource for comparing views on Israel from different countries over time. Plus, there's also Morning Consult, which does similar numbers.
And the answer is... it does not appear so.
If you take two countries with essentially no Muslim immigration (South Korea and Japan), then both countries populations have become signifcantly less enamoured with Israel in the last five years or so. South Korea has gone from basically flat favorability to -60. While Japan has swung to an even more negative -79.
These shifts are, if anything, even worse than the moves in countries with significant Muslim minorities.
Now, could it be because memories of the holocaust are fading?
Sure, that could be a role.
But something terrible happening in the past to your ancestors doesn't give you the right to be a shit now. I wouldn't say to an Armenian, "hey, go kick a Turk, after all, his ancestors were responsible for the Armenian genocide."
I find US Jews to be more openly critical of the Israeli government than my UK Jewish friends.
However while Trump launched the strikes he still hasn't sent the groundtroops in Bibi needed to seal the deal
If, on the other hand, you are in the West Bank, then you are in land administered by Israel, and you do not get the vote. By contrast, Israeli settlers (and I note that the Israeli government just approved another 30 odd settlements in the West Bank) do get the vote.
It is a creeping invasion by Israel, that is every bit as wrong as were Hamas's attacks on Israel from Gaza.
I just do not see the State of Israel being eradicated without profound implications for the middle east and beyond
But that doesn't make Israel's action in the West Bank or in Lebanon any more acceptable.
But I'm a little busy with work at the moment.
Never going to happen
Second is the hard right Zionist Bennett2026 which is the leading opposition party, so Netanyahu may be a case of better the devil you know
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2026_Israeli_legislative_election
I think a future tipping point is if Saudi Arabia and other nations in the Middle East decide to obtain nuclear technology.
A lot of people think that’s why Saudi Arabia decided to come under Pakistan’s nuclear umbrella.
Netanyahu is a war criminal and has done immence damage to Israel, but it's extinction would be cataclysmic for everyone
My view is that the Americans (and anyone else who cares about Israel) should have said to the Israelis "leave it to us, we'll sort this" and then you say to the Palestinians "either you play nice with us or you play nice with the Israelis."
That doesn't mean I think what's happened since is acceptable, but the Palestinians, Hezbollah and their backers get a free pass from Western observers.
A 2 state solution should remain the goal with a state of Israel next to a state of Palestine
There's the West Bank and there's Gaza.
They have -historically- had different governments. One (Gaza) was run by Hamas. The other (the West Bank) was run by Fatah.
Gaza attacked Israel in October 7, not the West Bank.
Why should the Palestinians in the West Bank pay for the actions of Hamas in Gaza?
Just look at all the alleged war crimes committed in Iraq and Afghanistan by British, American and Australian soldiers and probably others.
It really does feel like the concept of “war crimes” has become meaningless.
Israel stopped Iraq setting up a nuclear power plant.
But you are correct that there is an asymetry there. It's just a bit less glaring than the one in Israel and the West Bank - largely because it doesn't involve the forcible displacement of Puerto Ricans by the US state.
Because -while I think Israel has over-reacted to the October 7 attacks- it was attacked, and it was (and maybe still is) defending itself.
That doesn't make the creeping invasion of the West Bank, that long predates October 7, any more acceptable.
I never fancied her.
Killing 80,000 Gazans was performative justice by Bibi.
And if the Palestinians were to fight back when this happened, it would just be evidence that they can't be trusted with their own state.
Should they have to exist in ever smaller bantustans hemmed in by encroaching settlements that steal their land and water?
Tucker Carlson has been in absolute free fall among the GOP. His net favorable has dropped by 47 points.
Meanwhile, Trump crushes Tucker among the GOP. Trump's net favorable is 54 pts higher than Carlson's.
When you up against Trump, you in the grinder to quote Good Burger.
Really utterly bored of it all. Want something new to happen to get excited about. Maybe all the world’s zoo animals simultaneously rise up and start taking out humans, or Nessie and Bigfoot to set up an only fans and announce their existence.
The Iranians don't seem to realize they have no cards, other than a short term extortion of the World by using International Waterways. The only reason they are alive today is to negotiate! President DONALD J. TRUMP
..Generational divide hits both parties: 57% of *Republicans under 50* are negative on Israel..
A cynic would suggest that was because they wanted an impacable enemy who demanded the death of Israel, rather than the more pragmatic Fatah which sought a two State solution.
"If the conviction is upheld after appeals, the five-year sentence could potentially include actual prison time, though French courts sometimes allow alternative arrangements such as house arrest with electronic monitoring for certain sentences."
But if they elect a government in the same vein then I think pariah status is inevitable.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czd7gd5m024o
Just scanned the Nominations for the May 7th County Elections locally. Full slate for Conservatives, Reform, LibDems and Greens. Labour only contesting 85% of seats. As it's a true blue area with shades of Gails, the Reform result will be interesting as they have barely made any inroads here up to now. So Labour not even putting up paper candidates.
The region has been a focus of western foreign policy since WWII owing to its outsize role in global energy supplies - and the fact that it's a strategic choke point (see also Suez).
Without oil, we'd probably have found some way, over the last six or seven decades, to happily ignore it. As the events of the last month demonstrate though, that's not really possible even if we try (as the UK and Europe more or less have tried this time around).
But I wouldn't assume that the protestors are now in the majority.
That's not entirely clear.
And Trump needs to STFU . His latest comments are hardly going to help the negotiations.
Denying that Palestinians are a people with a national consciousness is one of the steps to cultural genocide.
Israel = 20,000 sq. km. of territory (roughly the size of Wales)
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Something that has been very striking in comparing the Greens to the more traditional left is the absence of factional divisions treated as existential threats - something the Labour Party dramatically suffers from, too. There are debates but they aren’t life-or-death.
https://x.com/meadwaj/status/2042639457757634857
Vance though isn't that stupid.
Quite a weekend ahead.
- As a part of Israel, both the West Bank and especially Gasa are treated horrendously. Of course in the latter case there's two sides to things, but Israel's response to October 7th went so far past the line that looking back it looks like a dot. Israel is never going to be a fair and just ruler of this land.
- The two state solution is seemingly dead and I'm not sure there's any way to revive it. Israel won't allow Gaza, in particular, the power and rights of a nation state.
- Israel will never let Palestinians be equal citizens within the wider borders of Israel.
- So absorbing them into Egypt and Jordan would allow the Palestinians to have equal rights within a country to other citizens. It's not an independent Palestine, but the example of Kurdistan is a better one than the seats quo.
BREAKING: Kamala Harris just gave the clearest signal yet she’ll run for president again in 2028.
https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/5824238-trump-geopolitical-catastrophe-iran/
The quote from that below really gets to the heart of the matter .
“Iran has now discovered that its arsenal of drones and missiles is just as useful as a nuclear weapon and far more flexible. Iran forced Trump to abandon demands for “unconditional surrender” because it demonstrated it could inflict mutual assured destruction on a regional scale.
True, Iran could not stop Israel and the Trump administration from bombing Iranian targets at will. But the U.S. could not stop Iran from destroying Gulf oil and gas facilities and bringing shipping through the Strait of Hormuz to a standstill. “
She was proven right .
That said, it worked for Trump. I worry the Dems still have some big divisions about the candidate being 'progressive' enough.
A Jewish settler can murder several Palestinians and will not face the death penalty.
A Palestinian can murder one Jewish settler and will face the death penalty, their 'trial' will be held under a military court, they may not be able to choose their own defence counsel in most circumstances, in the past the defence counsels are IDF soldiers who have said the Palestinians are vermin who need to be wiped out.
The evidentiary rules mean proper cross examinations cannot be carried out, the prosecution just needs to say 'national security' and that ends the cross examination.
96% of trials end in conviction, the sentence must be carried out within 90 days, and the appellate process is close to non existent.
If that's not apartheid like then what would you call it?