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  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,676
    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    A grim prognosis from Professor Azeem Ibrahim:

    https://x.com/AzeemIbrahim/status/2035361179879547244

    Britain is now in accelerated decline - gradual for decades, now at risk of sudden collapse.

    My stark verdict: unchecked, UK heading for relative poverty - a deindustrialised, sectarian, indebted island with first-rate pretensions & third-rate power.

    I thought the Right viewed the 'relative poverty' metric as a load of cobblers.
    Relative poverty is more about equality than measuring how many people are essentially destitute. It feels like shifting the goalposts. If poverty was about not being able to heat your home or choose heat or eat, relative measures can be affected by perverse incentives.
    Exactly. So why worry about the UK becoming 'relatively' impoverished?
    Because, as @williamglenn notes, it means Britain looks relatively impoverished, more and more, compared to other countries. For the main reason that we ARE

    I travel the globe, in case you haven't noticed, and I see this all the time. Britain looking more and more clapped out in comparison to others

    HOWEVER, and to be fair, this is true of many western European nations, with exceptions like Denmark, Norway, Switzerland - they look increasingly bedraggled compared to the USA, East Asia, Australia, etc

    Much of it is immigration of the most astonishingly stupid variety. It's hard for a country to look rich when you've got illiterate Afghans or Somalians aimlessly wandering the streets with nothing to do because there is literally nothing for them to do - even if they want to work (as of course very many do) they don't have the skills. So they become welfare bums, or just itinerants
    So relative poverty is meaningful then. I happen to agree - both between countries and within.

    Just looking for some coherence on the point.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,826
    edited March 24

    Pulpstar said:

    MaxPB said:

    Taz said:

    lol

    We’re a nation of mugs.

    I’m sure this Judge has considered any potential victims. Nonces are known for their honesty.

    ‘ Paedophile migrant who failed to disclose child sex offence after coming to UK wins appeal against deportation as judge rules it was 'honest mistake’

    https://x.com/dailymail/status/2036053935606124883?s=61

    This judge should have liability for this person's future crimes. When he commits rape and sexual assaults against children in this country the judge should also be put on trial for this completely ridiculous decision.

    Making judges accountable for their stupid rulings is going to be the only way to change things.
    If this is as presented, it is a simply astonishing ruling that completely undermines any pretensions of natural justice within the immigration system
    Since when were mistakes a defence under the law?

    Seems an utterly bizzare ruling.
    Working in finance, my work is subject to specific rulings that not reporting makes me guilty of a crime. "I forgot" is not a defence.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,910
    Leon said:

    A grim prognosis from Professor Azeem Ibrahim:

    https://x.com/AzeemIbrahim/status/2035361179879547244

    Britain is now in accelerated decline - gradual for decades, now at risk of sudden collapse.

    My stark verdict: unchecked, UK heading for relative poverty - a deindustrialised, sectarian, indebted island with first-rate pretensions & third-rate power.

    Wow! And it was all going so well until the Conservatives left office 20 months ago.
    The Tories are more to blame for our current state than Labour. They've had more time in office, these last three decades, and they are meant to be the smart capitalists who make amends for mad socialism. I hope the Conservatives DIE
    The Reform-Conservatives will be different though, when they form in the next 3-5 years.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,316
    Leon said:

    If Reform popularity can be measured in flags they are top bananas in North Worcestershire.

    A brace of flags, one Union and one St George on every lamppost in Redditch. Flags galore on Portway roundabout off the M42, and one for @Taz at least 30 flags on lampposts around Beckett's Island. I lived a quarter of a mile away from 1962 to 1977 and I never saw a flag in all those years. Stopping to salute each of the buggers takes some time.

    Quite a few in far east London, and north Kent, and also in Whitstable. Perhaps unsurprising
    I had never seen a flag displayed with menace until I left Birmingham for Herefordshire, and the flags of St George, as you will remember, were flown there to ward off the Welsh.
  • Wulfrun_PhilWulfrun_Phil Posts: 4,968
    kle4 said:

    Apparently the Supreme Court is eying up prohibiting counting of mail in ballots that arrive after election day? To be fair, regardless of whether it is lawful (I doubt the court care much about that vs what they personally prefer to be the case, pro or anti), it does feel like an odd practice. Does anywhere else do it?

    The way the Royal Mail is going to the dogs, it sounds like a very good practice that would benefit elections if adopted here. Seriously.

    It would obviously require the declaration of some results to be declared as provisional ones at the count but only very close ones. The returning officer will know the difference between the number of PVs issued and the number returned. If the difference between winner and 2nd place is more than say 15% of the total number of PVs not returned by polling day then an extension to count PVs received no more than a couple of days late could be granted for late postal deliveries only. Obviously not all PVs are going to be returned and neither will they all break the same way so a 100% threshold would be ridiculous, and in practice experience of how many PVs are received after the deadline could point to an even lower figure than 15% being appropriate. Let's say the number of PVs not returned is 20% of ballots counted, in which case the winning margin would have to be less than 3% of ballots counted (20% x 15%) for the final declaration to be postponed.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,550
    edited March 24
    Leon said:

    Praise be to @Apple. I will never hear a word against them, ever again


    Just chucked a scruffy rucksack in my washing machine, after getting back from Kent. It went through 90 minutes of washing, then 60 minutes of rinsing & spinning . THEN I realised my Airpods, latest model, £250 or whatever, were in one of the pockets

    I abandoned hope - but let them dry.....

    They work fine

    That is OUTSTANDING build quality

    Dry out the case inside well - leave it propped open. Those little gold-coloured contacts hiding in the bottom of each well can tarnish, then it won't charge.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,285
    kle4 said:

    Leon said:

    A grim prognosis from Professor Azeem Ibrahim:

    https://x.com/AzeemIbrahim/status/2035361179879547244

    Britain is now in accelerated decline - gradual for decades, now at risk of sudden collapse.

    My stark verdict: unchecked, UK heading for relative poverty - a deindustrialised, sectarian, indebted island with first-rate pretensions & third-rate power.

    Wow! And it was all going so well until the Conservatives left office 20 months ago.
    The Tories are more to blame for our current state than Labour. They've had more time in office, these last three decades, and they are meant to be the smart capitalists who make amends for mad socialism. I hope the Conservatives DIE
    The Reform-Conservatives will be different though, when they form in the next 3-5 years.
    Voting Reform is an act of desperation. But, we are desperate
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,386
    Leon said:

    kle4 said:

    Leon said:

    A grim prognosis from Professor Azeem Ibrahim:

    https://x.com/AzeemIbrahim/status/2035361179879547244

    Britain is now in accelerated decline - gradual for decades, now at risk of sudden collapse.

    My stark verdict: unchecked, UK heading for relative poverty - a deindustrialised, sectarian, indebted island with first-rate pretensions & third-rate power.

    Wow! And it was all going so well until the Conservatives left office 20 months ago.
    The Tories are more to blame for our current state than Labour. They've had more time in office, these last three decades, and they are meant to be the smart capitalists who make amends for mad socialism. I hope the Conservatives DIE
    The Reform-Conservatives will be different though, when they form in the next 3-5 years.
    Voting Reform is an act of desperation. But, we are desperate
    Not that desperate!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,230
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Praise be to @Apple. I will never hear a word against them, ever again


    Just chucked a scruffy rucksack in my washing machine, after getting back from Kent. It went through 90 minutes of washing, then 60 minutes of rinsing & spinning . THEN I realised my Airpods, latest model, £250 or whatever, were in one of the pockets

    I abandoned hope - but let them dry.....

    They work fine

    That is OUTSTANDING build quality

    And to prove it’s not n=1 your stalker just posted the exact same thing…
    Twice in a day, to two different people. Even fuckin' crazier

    Apple are COOKING
    If they were to be like you, surely they should be stewed?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,887
    nico67 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Maybe it's time for elected judges.

    That would be a bad idea IMO and just as worse would be politically appointed ones .

    Some judges make stupid decisions but knee jerk reactions could see an even worse scenario .
    Judges are human and make mistakes, both of judgement and in interpretation of the law. That's one reason why we have appeals, and also juries. And also why juries are composed of twelve members, rather than one.

    Perhaps there's a case for some of these immigration cases being decided by juries, rather than judges, to ensure that the evident disconnect between judges and the people is resolved directly?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,910
    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    A grim prognosis from Professor Azeem Ibrahim:

    https://x.com/AzeemIbrahim/status/2035361179879547244

    Britain is now in accelerated decline - gradual for decades, now at risk of sudden collapse.

    My stark verdict: unchecked, UK heading for relative poverty - a deindustrialised, sectarian, indebted island with first-rate pretensions & third-rate power.

    I thought the Right viewed the 'relative poverty' metric as a load of cobblers.
    Relative poverty is more about equality than measuring how many people are essentially destitute. It feels like shifting the goalposts. If poverty was about not being able to heat your home or choose heat or eat, relative measures can be affected by perverse incentives.
    Exactly. So why worry about the UK becoming 'relatively' impoverished?
    Because, as @williamglenn notes, it means Britain looks relatively impoverished, more and more, compared to other countries. For the main reason that we ARE

    I travel the globe, in case you haven't noticed, and I see this all the time. Britain looking more and more clapped out in comparison to others

    HOWEVER, and to be fair, this is true of many western European nations, with exceptions like Denmark, Norway, Switzerland - they look increasingly bedraggled compared to the USA, East Asia, Australia, etc

    Much of it is immigration of the most astonishingly stupid variety. It's hard for a country to look rich when you've got illiterate Afghans or Somalians aimlessly wandering the streets with nothing to do because there is literally nothing for them to do - even if they want to work (as of course very many do) they don't have the skills. So they become welfare bums, or just itinerants
    So relative poverty is meaningful then. I happen to agree - both between countries and within.

    Just looking for some coherence on the point.
    I think it does have utility in the sense of comparing national prestige, and internally for looking at inequalities, it's just not as useful if it is used as a synonym for a kind of fixed idea of a standard of living, in which case people could get the wrong impression based on a shift in the rate.

    So it depends how it is being used.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,676
    Taz said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    A grim prognosis from Professor Azeem Ibrahim:

    https://x.com/AzeemIbrahim/status/2035361179879547244

    Britain is now in accelerated decline - gradual for decades, now at risk of sudden collapse.

    My stark verdict: unchecked, UK heading for relative poverty - a deindustrialised, sectarian, indebted island with first-rate pretensions & third-rate power.

    I thought the Right viewed the 'relative poverty' metric as a load of cobblers.
    Relative poverty is more about equality than measuring how many people are essentially destitute. It feels like shifting the goalposts. If poverty was about not being able to heat your home or choose heat or eat, relative measures can be affected by perverse incentives.
    Exactly. So why worry about the UK becoming 'relatively' impoverished?
    Says a guy with over half a dozen homes that would be caught by the mansion tax in his road.

    Nearest one to me, 10 miles away 😂😂😂😂
    I'm sure your house is nice, Taz.

    But you misconstrue. I'm arguing that relative poverty IS a meaningful measure.

    The aspiration should be to reduce it - here there and everywhere.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,701

    Have I got this correct?

    The Chief of Staff of the UK PM's phone got stolen and nothing was done?

    It could be in the bloody Kremlin by now.

    Am I going mad?

    Have I got this correct?

    The Chief of Staff of the UK PM's phone got stolen and nothing was done?

    It could be in the bloody Kremlin by now.

    Am I going mad?

    The Chief of Staff said his phone was stolen. Not the same thing.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,910
    Leon said:

    kle4 said:

    Leon said:

    A grim prognosis from Professor Azeem Ibrahim:

    https://x.com/AzeemIbrahim/status/2035361179879547244

    Britain is now in accelerated decline - gradual for decades, now at risk of sudden collapse.

    My stark verdict: unchecked, UK heading for relative poverty - a deindustrialised, sectarian, indebted island with first-rate pretensions & third-rate power.

    Wow! And it was all going so well until the Conservatives left office 20 months ago.
    The Tories are more to blame for our current state than Labour. They've had more time in office, these last three decades, and they are meant to be the smart capitalists who make amends for mad socialism. I hope the Conservatives DIE
    The Reform-Conservatives will be different though, when they form in the next 3-5 years.
    Voting Reform is an act of desperation. But, we are desperate
    There's always the Greens-Your Party alliance...
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,639
    Leon said:

    If Reform popularity can be measured in flags they are top bananas in North Worcestershire.

    A brace of flags, one Union and one St George on every lamppost in Redditch. Flags galore on Portway roundabout off the M42, and one for @Taz at least 30 flags on lampposts around Beckett's Island. I lived a quarter of a mile away from 1962 to 1977 and I never saw a flag in all those years. Stopping to salute each of the buggers takes some time.

    Quite a few in far east London, and north Kent, and also in Whitstable. Perhaps unsurprising
    Even a St George's on a lamp post at the A12 Eastern Avenue junction with Aldborough Road (Ilford North!).
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,639
    edited March 24

    Has this site become LukeTrylsTweets.com?

    I have it on good authority that TSE is NOT Luke Tryls...
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,624
    edited March 24
    Denmark using paper ballots I see on their election night show.

    https://www.dr.dk/drtv/kanal/dr1_20875
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,626

    Off topic, but timely. On Saturday it was sunny here, and so I took the opportunity to walk along Lake Washington and take a few photographs. To my surprise, I encountered a small pro-Shah demonstration at a favorite park. The demonstrators were displaying the traditional Iranian flag, American flags, and -- trigger warning -- an Israeli flag or two.

    There were three or four groups of pictures of, I assumed, young people who had been killed by the Mullahs.

    Here's one:


    (My apologies for the quality of the picture. I should have taken more time, but was still surprised by the demonstration.)

    The demonstrators looked wealthy and secular.

    This Saturday there will be, as I understand it, a "No Kings" demonstration, protesting Trump, in the same park. (I expect I will find myself in the odd position of favoring both demonstrations, wanting the Mullahs overthrown, with as few lives lost as possible, and the Loser driven from power, with the same caveat.)


    Much bigger pro-Iranian opposition demo in Newcastle at the w/end. Convened in Grey Square, but also lots of pics of regime victims down by the river walk near the Tyne Bridge. Lots of royalist flags and pictures of Reza Pahlavi. Also a few US and, I think, one Israeli.

    Maybe there is an Iranian diaspora in Tyneside?
    There's a big Persian diaspora here, and regular protests against the Mullahs. (Which are typically attended by those of both Persian Jewish and Muslim descent.) It's actually quietened down of late, not because people suddenly support the regime, but because they're worried about friends and family that are left there.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,624
    DavidL said:

    algarkirk said:

    MaxPB said:

    ydoethur said:

    MaxPB said:

    Taz said:

    lol

    We’re a nation of mugs.

    I’m sure this Judge has considered any potential victims. Nonces are known for their honesty.

    ‘ Paedophile migrant who failed to disclose child sex offence after coming to UK wins appeal against deportation as judge rules it was 'honest mistake’

    https://x.com/dailymail/status/2036053935606124883?s=61

    This judge should have liability for this person's future crimes. When he commits rape and sexual assaults against children in this country the judge should also be put on trial for this completely ridiculous decision.

    Making judges accountable for their stupid rulings is going to be the only way to change things.
    The problem is, of course, that you have to be a bit careful when criticising judges due to contempt of court rules.

    But how can you not hold them in contempt when they say and do stupid things like this?

    It's not as though it's recent either. Tom Denning and David Eady were both pretty dodgy.
    There's just a complete lack of accountability for judges. They exist isolation from their decisions and the havoc they can have on the wider community. Obviously this government won't do anything about it but I think both the Tories and Reform should propose something similar to this in their manifestoes on a justice reform section.
    To repeat what I posted earlier on this:


    I have not seen the judgment but the report indicates, sotto voce, that the decision the judge had to make was whether he could have a hearing, not that he could remain in the UK. SFAICS that remains to be decided. Which means that the case is deciding much less than the story suggests.
    And judicial independence is an essential element of our liberties. Do we really want judges that account to politicians for their decisions? Absolutely not. If the price is the odd daft decision that gets corrected on appeal it is a price worth paying.
    What's wrong with judges being accountable?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,918
    edited March 24
    Reform voters still much more likely than voters overall to approve of Trump and over 2/3 of them also think the King's state visit to the USA should go ahead and a clear plurality of Reform voters sympathise with the US and Israel in the conflict. Green voters massively opposed to the King making a visit but then they even prefer Iran over the US and Israel in the current conflict.

    Davey may be going a bit too anti Trump for his LD voters though, a plurality of LD voters think the King's visit should go ahead, Sir Ed wants it cancelled. So maybe it is Sir Ed who needs to watch his position most of all, not Farage
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,701
    DoctorG said:

    kle4 said:

    Recent Wings pieces on the Holyrood elections are a bit weird in tone. He is clear the SNP are almost certainly going to win big and might even get a majority, and because he thinks they are useless is left essentially saying there's barely any point to the election at all.

    Cant help but think Wings is really missing his pal Mr Salmond too much. He will be missing out on some top insider gossip

    He is right though, the election is a foregone conclusion. So the debates, hustings etc forthcoming are all a waste of time (and money)
    Not necessarily. I haven’t decided who is getting my regional vote, and that’s the MSP selection that’s not a foregone conclusion.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,342
    Andy_JS said:

    Denmark using paper ballots I see on their election night show.

    https://www.dr.dk/drtv/kanal/dr1_20875

    Another source for results:

    https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/folketingsvalg/resultater
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,626
    kle4 said:

    Apparently the Supreme Court is eying up prohibiting counting of mail in ballots that arrive after election day? To be fair, regardless of whether it is lawful (I doubt the court care much about that vs what they personally prefer to be the case, pro or anti), it does feel like an odd practice. Does anywhere else do it?

    It is ballots which were posted before election day... but which arrive later.

    The people it will most affect are US servicemen posted abroad.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,676
    edited March 24
    kle4 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    A grim prognosis from Professor Azeem Ibrahim:

    https://x.com/AzeemIbrahim/status/2035361179879547244

    Britain is now in accelerated decline - gradual for decades, now at risk of sudden collapse.

    My stark verdict: unchecked, UK heading for relative poverty - a deindustrialised, sectarian, indebted island with first-rate pretensions & third-rate power.

    I thought the Right viewed the 'relative poverty' metric as a load of cobblers.
    Relative poverty is more about equality than measuring how many people are essentially destitute. It feels like shifting the goalposts. If poverty was about not being able to heat your home or choose heat or eat, relative measures can be affected by perverse incentives.
    Exactly. So why worry about the UK becoming 'relatively' impoverished?
    Because, as @williamglenn notes, it means Britain looks relatively impoverished, more and more, compared to other countries. For the main reason that we ARE

    I travel the globe, in case you haven't noticed, and I see this all the time. Britain looking more and more clapped out in comparison to others

    HOWEVER, and to be fair, this is true of many western European nations, with exceptions like Denmark, Norway, Switzerland - they look increasingly bedraggled compared to the USA, East Asia, Australia, etc

    Much of it is immigration of the most astonishingly stupid variety. It's hard for a country to look rich when you've got illiterate Afghans or Somalians aimlessly wandering the streets with nothing to do because there is literally nothing for them to do - even if they want to work (as of course very many do) they don't have the skills. So they become welfare bums, or just itinerants
    So relative poverty is meaningful then. I happen to agree - both between countries and within.

    Just looking for some coherence on the point.
    I think it does have utility in the sense of comparing national prestige, and internally for looking at inequalities, it's just not as useful if it is used as a synonym for a kind of fixed idea of a standard of living, in which case people could get the wrong impression based on a shift in the rate.

    So it depends how it is being used.
    Agreed. I'm not arguing for 'relative' as always trumping 'absolute'. But usually it does. In any case both are relevant.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 27,045
    Andy_JS said:

    Maybe it's time for elected judges.

    Perhaps we could also encourage our billionaires to fund the judges campaigns in exchange for future favourable rulings at the expense of plebs?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,709
    algarkirk said:

    MaxPB said:

    ydoethur said:

    MaxPB said:

    Taz said:

    lol

    We’re a nation of mugs.

    I’m sure this Judge has considered any potential victims. Nonces are known for their honesty.

    ‘ Paedophile migrant who failed to disclose child sex offence after coming to UK wins appeal against deportation as judge rules it was 'honest mistake’

    https://x.com/dailymail/status/2036053935606124883?s=61

    This judge should have liability for this person's future crimes. When he commits rape and sexual assaults against children in this country the judge should also be put on trial for this completely ridiculous decision.

    Making judges accountable for their stupid rulings is going to be the only way to change things.
    The problem is, of course, that you have to be a bit careful when criticising judges due to contempt of court rules.

    But how can you not hold them in contempt when they say and do stupid things like this?

    It's not as though it's recent either. Tom Denning and David Eady were both pretty dodgy.
    There's just a complete lack of accountability for judges. They exist isolation from their decisions and the havoc they can have on the wider community. Obviously this government won't do anything about it but I think both the Tories and Reform should propose something similar to this in their manifestoes on a justice reform section.
    To repeat what I posted earlier on this:


    I have not seen the judgment but the report indicates, sotto voce, that the decision the judge had to make was whether he could have a hearing, not that he could remain in the UK. SFAICS that remains to be decided. Which means that the case is deciding much less than the story suggests.
    Failing to disclose a conviction for child sexual abuse in *Checks notes* Portugal should be disqualifying from having any sort of further hearings or leaves to appeal in the immigration system.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 8,049
    Andy_JS said:

    DavidL said:

    algarkirk said:

    MaxPB said:

    ydoethur said:

    MaxPB said:

    Taz said:

    lol

    We’re a nation of mugs.

    I’m sure this Judge has considered any potential victims. Nonces are known for their honesty.

    ‘ Paedophile migrant who failed to disclose child sex offence after coming to UK wins appeal against deportation as judge rules it was 'honest mistake’

    https://x.com/dailymail/status/2036053935606124883?s=61

    This judge should have liability for this person's future crimes. When he commits rape and sexual assaults against children in this country the judge should also be put on trial for this completely ridiculous decision.

    Making judges accountable for their stupid rulings is going to be the only way to change things.
    The problem is, of course, that you have to be a bit careful when criticising judges due to contempt of court rules.

    But how can you not hold them in contempt when they say and do stupid things like this?

    It's not as though it's recent either. Tom Denning and David Eady were both pretty dodgy.
    There's just a complete lack of accountability for judges. They exist isolation from their decisions and the havoc they can have on the wider community. Obviously this government won't do anything about it but I think both the Tories and Reform should propose something similar to this in their manifestoes on a justice reform section.
    To repeat what I posted earlier on this:


    I have not seen the judgment but the report indicates, sotto voce, that the decision the judge had to make was whether he could have a hearing, not that he could remain in the UK. SFAICS that remains to be decided. Which means that the case is deciding much less than the story suggests.
    And judicial independence is an essential element of our liberties. Do we really want judges that account to politicians for their decisions? Absolutely not. If the price is the odd daft decision that gets corrected on appeal it is a price worth paying.
    What's wrong with judges being accountable?
    We have a Parliament. If a judge makes a decision they don't like, they can change the law.
  • Donald Trump has successfully rescued the Labour Party.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,910
    edited March 24

    Andy_JS said:

    Maybe it's time for elected judges.

    Perhaps we could also encourage our billionaires to fund the judges campaigns in exchange for future favourable rulings at the expense of plebs?
    Problem is judges are so darn forgetful. As Clarence Thomas teaches us you can be a very experienced and intelligent jurist for decades, and yet simultaneously still be baffled by the idea that an important judge should probably register expensive gifts and baubles from your uber rich friends.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 8,049
    Pulpstar said:

    algarkirk said:

    MaxPB said:

    ydoethur said:

    MaxPB said:

    Taz said:

    lol

    We’re a nation of mugs.

    I’m sure this Judge has considered any potential victims. Nonces are known for their honesty.

    ‘ Paedophile migrant who failed to disclose child sex offence after coming to UK wins appeal against deportation as judge rules it was 'honest mistake’

    https://x.com/dailymail/status/2036053935606124883?s=61

    This judge should have liability for this person's future crimes. When he commits rape and sexual assaults against children in this country the judge should also be put on trial for this completely ridiculous decision.

    Making judges accountable for their stupid rulings is going to be the only way to change things.
    The problem is, of course, that you have to be a bit careful when criticising judges due to contempt of court rules.

    But how can you not hold them in contempt when they say and do stupid things like this?

    It's not as though it's recent either. Tom Denning and David Eady were both pretty dodgy.
    There's just a complete lack of accountability for judges. They exist isolation from their decisions and the havoc they can have on the wider community. Obviously this government won't do anything about it but I think both the Tories and Reform should propose something similar to this in their manifestoes on a justice reform section.
    To repeat what I posted earlier on this:


    I have not seen the judgment but the report indicates, sotto voce, that the decision the judge had to make was whether he could have a hearing, not that he could remain in the UK. SFAICS that remains to be decided. Which means that the case is deciding much less than the story suggests.
    Failing to disclose a conviction for child sexual abuse in *Checks notes* Portugal should be disqualifying from having any sort of further hearings or leaves to appeal in the immigration system.
    Portugal is a safe country, he can appeal from there
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,910

    Donald Trump has successfully rescued the Labour Party.

    He has proven quite useful to a number of centre-left parties across the globe, he should charge them fees for the service he provides.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 27,045
    kle4 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Maybe it's time for elected judges.

    Perhaps we could also encourage our billionaires to fund the judges campaigns in exchange for future favourable rulings at the expense of plebs?
    Problem is judges are so darn forgetful. As Clarence Thomas teaches us you can be a very experienced and intelligent jurist for decades, and yet simultaneously still be baffled by the idea that an important judge should probably register expensive gifts and baubles from your uber rich friends.
    It seems that is known as an "honest mistake" in judgeland, elected, bribed or not.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,709

    Andy_JS said:

    DavidL said:

    algarkirk said:

    MaxPB said:

    ydoethur said:

    MaxPB said:

    Taz said:

    lol

    We’re a nation of mugs.

    I’m sure this Judge has considered any potential victims. Nonces are known for their honesty.

    ‘ Paedophile migrant who failed to disclose child sex offence after coming to UK wins appeal against deportation as judge rules it was 'honest mistake’

    https://x.com/dailymail/status/2036053935606124883?s=61

    This judge should have liability for this person's future crimes. When he commits rape and sexual assaults against children in this country the judge should also be put on trial for this completely ridiculous decision.

    Making judges accountable for their stupid rulings is going to be the only way to change things.
    The problem is, of course, that you have to be a bit careful when criticising judges due to contempt of court rules.

    But how can you not hold them in contempt when they say and do stupid things like this?

    It's not as though it's recent either. Tom Denning and David Eady were both pretty dodgy.
    There's just a complete lack of accountability for judges. They exist isolation from their decisions and the havoc they can have on the wider community. Obviously this government won't do anything about it but I think both the Tories and Reform should propose something similar to this in their manifestoes on a justice reform section.
    To repeat what I posted earlier on this:


    I have not seen the judgment but the report indicates, sotto voce, that the decision the judge had to make was whether he could have a hearing, not that he could remain in the UK. SFAICS that remains to be decided. Which means that the case is deciding much less than the story suggests.
    And judicial independence is an essential element of our liberties. Do we really want judges that account to politicians for their decisions? Absolutely not. If the price is the odd daft decision that gets corrected on appeal it is a price worth paying.
    What's wrong with judges being accountable?
    We have a Parliament. If a judge makes a decision they don't like, they can change the law.
    Parliament shouldn't need to mandate to judges that failure to disclose convictions for sexual abuse of children should disqualify the applicant from further appeals but yes someone needs to examine what on earth this judge has ruled and changed the law asap so it can't happen
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,624
    edited March 24
    Wales heading for a Plaid Cymru / Green government. They'd have 53 out of 96 seats according to YouGov.

    "PollCheck
    @poll_checker

    Senedd Voting Intention:

    Plaid Cymru: 33% (-4.0)
    Reform UK: 27% (+4.0)
    Labour: 13% (+3.0)
    Greens: 12% (-1.0)
    Conservative: 7% (-3.0)
    Liberal Democrats: 5% (=)
    Others: 4% (+2.0)

    Via: YouGov
    MOE: ±2.1%
    Field Work: 9 - 18 March changes w/ 13 January 2026

    Seats:

    PC 42
    Ref 29
    Lab 13
    Grn 11
    Con 1"

    https://x.com/poll_checker/status/2036511284397584686
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,709
    Pulpstar said:

    Andy_JS said:

    DavidL said:

    algarkirk said:

    MaxPB said:

    ydoethur said:

    MaxPB said:

    Taz said:

    lol

    We’re a nation of mugs.

    I’m sure this Judge has considered any potential victims. Nonces are known for their honesty.

    ‘ Paedophile migrant who failed to disclose child sex offence after coming to UK wins appeal against deportation as judge rules it was 'honest mistake’

    https://x.com/dailymail/status/2036053935606124883?s=61

    This judge should have liability for this person's future crimes. When he commits rape and sexual assaults against children in this country the judge should also be put on trial for this completely ridiculous decision.

    Making judges accountable for their stupid rulings is going to be the only way to change things.
    The problem is, of course, that you have to be a bit careful when criticising judges due to contempt of court rules.

    But how can you not hold them in contempt when they say and do stupid things like this?

    It's not as though it's recent either. Tom Denning and David Eady were both pretty dodgy.
    There's just a complete lack of accountability for judges. They exist isolation from their decisions and the havoc they can have on the wider community. Obviously this government won't do anything about it but I think both the Tories and Reform should propose something similar to this in their manifestoes on a justice reform section.
    To repeat what I posted earlier on this:


    I have not seen the judgment but the report indicates, sotto voce, that the decision the judge had to make was whether he could have a hearing, not that he could remain in the UK. SFAICS that remains to be decided. Which means that the case is deciding much less than the story suggests.
    And judicial independence is an essential element of our liberties. Do we really want judges that account to politicians for their decisions? Absolutely not. If the price is the odd daft decision that gets corrected on appeal it is a price worth paying.
    What's wrong with judges being accountable?
    We have a Parliament. If a judge makes a decision they don't like, they can change the law.
    Parliament shouldn't need to mandate to judges that failure to disclose convictions for sexual abuse of children should disqualify the applicant from further appeals but yes someone needs to examine what on earth this judge has ruled and changed the law asap so it can't happen
    Certainly not from here to note Lilburne's subsequent comment
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,910

    kle4 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Maybe it's time for elected judges.

    Perhaps we could also encourage our billionaires to fund the judges campaigns in exchange for future favourable rulings at the expense of plebs?
    Problem is judges are so darn forgetful. As Clarence Thomas teaches us you can be a very experienced and intelligent jurist for decades, and yet simultaneously still be baffled by the idea that an important judge should probably register expensive gifts and baubles from your uber rich friends.
    It seems that is known as an "honest mistake" in judgeland, elected, bribed or not.
    I jest, but it really is such blatantly corrupt behaviour, as it's just not plausible to pretend they are stupid, as can often be assumed of the non-robed politicians, and Roberts and the rest have to pretend to believe the corruption is other than it is and act affronted when people criticise them.
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,145

    Nigelb said:

    tlg86 said:

    What are the chances?

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2036460110579450052

    @Steven_Swinford
    Exclusive:

    Police did not investigate the theft of Morgan McSweeney’s phone because officers were “too busy”, despite the sensitivity of his messages and contacts

    Sir Keir Starmer’s former chief of staff told the Metropolitan police that his phone was stolen as he returned home from a restaurant in central London on October 20 last year

    Given their record on mobile phone theft ?
    Around 98.5%.
    What are the chances that his phone was actually stolen?
    Pretty high, according to the righties and the Mail/Telegraph it's practically impossible to walk around in London without being mugged for your phone
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,709
    I'm being polite but I'll admit this ruling has left me fucking incandescent.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,910
    Andy_JS said:

    "PollCheck
    @poll_checker

    Senedd Voting Intention:

    Plaid Cymru: 33% (-4.0)
    Reform UK: 27% (+4.0)
    Labour: 13% (+3.0)
    Greens: 12% (-1.0)
    Conservative: 7% (-3.0)
    Liberal Democrats: 5% (=)
    Others: 4% (+2.0)

    Via: YouGov
    MOE: ±2.1%
    Field Work: 9 - 18 March changes w/ 13 January 2026

    Seats:

    PC 42
    Ref 29
    Lab 13
    Grn 11
    Con 1"

    https://x.com/poll_checker/status/2036511284397584686

    Con 1! LD 0! Even with the greater number of seats, wow.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,918
    Andy_JS said:

    "PollCheck
    @poll_checker

    Senedd Voting Intention:

    Plaid Cymru: 33% (-4.0)
    Reform UK: 27% (+4.0)
    Labour: 13% (+3.0)
    Greens: 12% (-1.0)
    Conservative: 7% (-3.0)
    Liberal Democrats: 5% (=)
    Others: 4% (+2.0)

    Via: YouGov
    MOE: ±2.1%
    Field Work: 9 - 18 March changes w/ 13 January 2026

    Seats:

    PC 42
    Ref 29
    Lab 13
    Grn 11
    Con 1"

    https://x.com/poll_checker/status/2036511284397584686

    I think that underestimates the Reform seat total a bit relative to Plaid now the Senedd vote is pure PR
  • Pulpstar said:

    algarkirk said:

    MaxPB said:

    ydoethur said:

    MaxPB said:

    Taz said:

    lol

    We’re a nation of mugs.

    I’m sure this Judge has considered any potential victims. Nonces are known for their honesty.

    ‘ Paedophile migrant who failed to disclose child sex offence after coming to UK wins appeal against deportation as judge rules it was 'honest mistake’

    https://x.com/dailymail/status/2036053935606124883?s=61

    This judge should have liability for this person's future crimes. When he commits rape and sexual assaults against children in this country the judge should also be put on trial for this completely ridiculous decision.

    Making judges accountable for their stupid rulings is going to be the only way to change things.
    The problem is, of course, that you have to be a bit careful when criticising judges due to contempt of court rules.

    But how can you not hold them in contempt when they say and do stupid things like this?

    It's not as though it's recent either. Tom Denning and David Eady were both pretty dodgy.
    There's just a complete lack of accountability for judges. They exist isolation from their decisions and the havoc they can have on the wider community. Obviously this government won't do anything about it but I think both the Tories and Reform should propose something similar to this in their manifestoes on a justice reform section.
    To repeat what I posted earlier on this:


    I have not seen the judgment but the report indicates, sotto voce, that the decision the judge had to make was whether he could have a hearing, not that he could remain in the UK. SFAICS that remains to be decided. Which means that the case is deciding much less than the story suggests.
    Failing to disclose a conviction for child sexual abuse in *Checks notes* Portugal should be disqualifying from having any sort of further hearings or leaves to appeal in the immigration system.
    Having a conviction for child sexual abuse should be disqualifying ...

    I am liberal on migration, but anyone with child sex or rape convictions should not be eligible for a visa.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,910
    edited March 24
    Andy_JS said:

    DavidL said:

    algarkirk said:

    MaxPB said:

    ydoethur said:

    MaxPB said:

    Taz said:

    lol

    We’re a nation of mugs.

    I’m sure this Judge has considered any potential victims. Nonces are known for their honesty.

    ‘ Paedophile migrant who failed to disclose child sex offence after coming to UK wins appeal against deportation as judge rules it was 'honest mistake’

    https://x.com/dailymail/status/2036053935606124883?s=61

    This judge should have liability for this person's future crimes. When he commits rape and sexual assaults against children in this country the judge should also be put on trial for this completely ridiculous decision.

    Making judges accountable for their stupid rulings is going to be the only way to change things.
    The problem is, of course, that you have to be a bit careful when criticising judges due to contempt of court rules.

    But how can you not hold them in contempt when they say and do stupid things like this?

    It's not as though it's recent either. Tom Denning and David Eady were both pretty dodgy.
    There's just a complete lack of accountability for judges. They exist isolation from their decisions and the havoc they can have on the wider community. Obviously this government won't do anything about it but I think both the Tories and Reform should propose something similar to this in their manifestoes on a justice reform section.
    To repeat what I posted earlier on this:


    I have not seen the judgment but the report indicates, sotto voce, that the decision the judge had to make was whether he could have a hearing, not that he could remain in the UK. SFAICS that remains to be decided. Which means that the case is deciding much less than the story suggests.
    And judicial independence is an essential element of our liberties. Do we really want judges that account to politicians for their decisions? Absolutely not. If the price is the odd daft decision that gets corrected on appeal it is a price worth paying.
    What's wrong with judges being accountable?
    The...reason he gave in the post you replied to?

    It's the method of accountability that is at issue.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 8,049
    Pulpstar said:

    Andy_JS said:

    DavidL said:

    algarkirk said:

    MaxPB said:

    ydoethur said:

    MaxPB said:

    Taz said:

    lol

    We’re a nation of mugs.

    I’m sure this Judge has considered any potential victims. Nonces are known for their honesty.

    ‘ Paedophile migrant who failed to disclose child sex offence after coming to UK wins appeal against deportation as judge rules it was 'honest mistake’

    https://x.com/dailymail/status/2036053935606124883?s=61

    This judge should have liability for this person's future crimes. When he commits rape and sexual assaults against children in this country the judge should also be put on trial for this completely ridiculous decision.

    Making judges accountable for their stupid rulings is going to be the only way to change things.
    The problem is, of course, that you have to be a bit careful when criticising judges due to contempt of court rules.

    But how can you not hold them in contempt when they say and do stupid things like this?

    It's not as though it's recent either. Tom Denning and David Eady were both pretty dodgy.
    There's just a complete lack of accountability for judges. They exist isolation from their decisions and the havoc they can have on the wider community. Obviously this government won't do anything about it but I think both the Tories and Reform should propose something similar to this in their manifestoes on a justice reform section.
    To repeat what I posted earlier on this:


    I have not seen the judgment but the report indicates, sotto voce, that the decision the judge had to make was whether he could have a hearing, not that he could remain in the UK. SFAICS that remains to be decided. Which means that the case is deciding much less than the story suggests.
    And judicial independence is an essential element of our liberties. Do we really want judges that account to politicians for their decisions? Absolutely not. If the price is the odd daft decision that gets corrected on appeal it is a price worth paying.
    What's wrong with judges being accountable?
    We have a Parliament. If a judge makes a decision they don't like, they can change the law.
    Parliament shouldn't need to mandate to judges that failure to disclose convictions for sexual abuse of children should disqualify the applicant from further appeals but yes someone needs to examine what on earth this judge has ruled and changed the law asap so it can't happen
    Government should make sure there is free Parliamentary time so they can be reactive. This guy could be back in Portugal by Mayday.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,316
    Andy_JS said:

    "PollCheck
    @poll_checker

    Senedd Voting Intention:

    Plaid Cymru: 33% (-4.0)
    Reform UK: 27% (+4.0)
    Labour: 13% (+3.0)
    Greens: 12% (-1.0)
    Conservative: 7% (-3.0)
    Liberal Democrats: 5% (=)
    Others: 4% (+2.0)

    Via: YouGov
    MOE: ±2.1%
    Field Work: 9 - 18 March changes w/ 13 January 2026

    Seats:

    PC 42
    Ref 29
    Lab 13
    Grn 11
    Con 1"

    https://x.com/poll_checker/status/2036511284397584686

    How are Reform up?

    I could live with that result.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,060
    Andy_JS said:

    "PollCheck
    @poll_checker

    Senedd Voting Intention:

    Plaid Cymru: 33% (-4.0)
    Reform UK: 27% (+4.0)
    Labour: 13% (+3.0)
    Greens: 12% (-1.0)
    Conservative: 7% (-3.0)
    Liberal Democrats: 5% (=)
    Others: 4% (+2.0)

    Via: YouGov
    MOE: ±2.1%
    Field Work: 9 - 18 March changes w/ 13 January 2026

    Seats:

    PC 42
    Ref 29
    Lab 13
    Grn 11
    Con 1"

    https://x.com/poll_checker/status/2036511284397584686

    Tories on 1 seat?

    Poor Kemi.

    The Tories in May are set to be the Japanese during the Battle of Iwo Jima.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,968
    @bradyafr.bsky.social‬

    New satellite imagery shows that a Russian oil depot in Primorsk is still burning after it was struck by Ukraine a few days ago.

    This site is more than 900km from the border with Ukraine.

    https://bsky.app/profile/bradyafr.bsky.social/post/3mhtdfkhejs2j
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,060
    edited March 24
    Andy_JS said:

    DavidL said:

    algarkirk said:

    MaxPB said:

    ydoethur said:

    MaxPB said:

    Taz said:

    lol

    We’re a nation of mugs.

    I’m sure this Judge has considered any potential victims. Nonces are known for their honesty.

    ‘ Paedophile migrant who failed to disclose child sex offence after coming to UK wins appeal against deportation as judge rules it was 'honest mistake’

    https://x.com/dailymail/status/2036053935606124883?s=61

    This judge should have liability for this person's future crimes. When he commits rape and sexual assaults against children in this country the judge should also be put on trial for this completely ridiculous decision.

    Making judges accountable for their stupid rulings is going to be the only way to change things.
    The problem is, of course, that you have to be a bit careful when criticising judges due to contempt of court rules.

    But how can you not hold them in contempt when they say and do stupid things like this?

    It's not as though it's recent either. Tom Denning and David Eady were both pretty dodgy.
    There's just a complete lack of accountability for judges. They exist isolation from their decisions and the havoc they can have on the wider community. Obviously this government won't do anything about it but I think both the Tories and Reform should propose something similar to this in their manifestoes on a justice reform section.
    To repeat what I posted earlier on this:


    I have not seen the judgment but the report indicates, sotto voce, that the decision the judge had to make was whether he could have a hearing, not that he could remain in the UK. SFAICS that remains to be decided. Which means that the case is deciding much less than the story suggests.
    And judicial independence is an essential element of our liberties. Do we really want judges that account to politicians for their decisions? Absolutely not. If the price is the odd daft decision that gets corrected on appeal it is a price worth paying.
    What's wrong with judges being accountable?
    They are already accountable and can be replaced.

    Parliament can also pass laws.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,624
    Didn't expect YouGov to predict a comfortable majority in Wales for a PC/Green coalition government.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,316
    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "PollCheck
    @poll_checker

    Senedd Voting Intention:

    Plaid Cymru: 33% (-4.0)
    Reform UK: 27% (+4.0)
    Labour: 13% (+3.0)
    Greens: 12% (-1.0)
    Conservative: 7% (-3.0)
    Liberal Democrats: 5% (=)
    Others: 4% (+2.0)

    Via: YouGov
    MOE: ±2.1%
    Field Work: 9 - 18 March changes w/ 13 January 2026

    Seats:

    PC 42
    Ref 29
    Lab 13
    Grn 11
    Con 1"

    https://x.com/poll_checker/status/2036511284397584686

    I think that underestimates the Reform seat total a bit relative to Plaid now the Senedd vote is pure PR
    An astute observation or wishful thinking?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,965

    Andy_JS said:

    "PollCheck
    @poll_checker

    Senedd Voting Intention:

    Plaid Cymru: 33% (-4.0)
    Reform UK: 27% (+4.0)
    Labour: 13% (+3.0)
    Greens: 12% (-1.0)
    Conservative: 7% (-3.0)
    Liberal Democrats: 5% (=)
    Others: 4% (+2.0)

    Via: YouGov
    MOE: ±2.1%
    Field Work: 9 - 18 March changes w/ 13 January 2026

    Seats:

    PC 42
    Ref 29
    Lab 13
    Grn 11
    Con 1"

    https://x.com/poll_checker/status/2036511284397584686

    How are Reform up?

    I could live with that result.
    mae'n ras gyda dau geffyl

    if google translate is to be believed.
  • Mo Salah to leave Liverpool at the end of the season.

    On a free transfer. Him leaving is not a surprise, but that's a surprise.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,709

    Andy_JS said:

    DavidL said:

    algarkirk said:

    MaxPB said:

    ydoethur said:

    MaxPB said:

    Taz said:

    lol

    We’re a nation of mugs.

    I’m sure this Judge has considered any potential victims. Nonces are known for their honesty.

    ‘ Paedophile migrant who failed to disclose child sex offence after coming to UK wins appeal against deportation as judge rules it was 'honest mistake’

    https://x.com/dailymail/status/2036053935606124883?s=61

    This judge should have liability for this person's future crimes. When he commits rape and sexual assaults against children in this country the judge should also be put on trial for this completely ridiculous decision.

    Making judges accountable for their stupid rulings is going to be the only way to change things.
    The problem is, of course, that you have to be a bit careful when criticising judges due to contempt of court rules.

    But how can you not hold them in contempt when they say and do stupid things like this?

    It's not as though it's recent either. Tom Denning and David Eady were both pretty dodgy.
    There's just a complete lack of accountability for judges. They exist isolation from their decisions and the havoc they can have on the wider community. Obviously this government won't do anything about it but I think both the Tories and Reform should propose something similar to this in their manifestoes on a justice reform section.
    To repeat what I posted earlier on this:


    I have not seen the judgment but the report indicates, sotto voce, that the decision the judge had to make was whether he could have a hearing, not that he could remain in the UK. SFAICS that remains to be decided. Which means that the case is deciding much less than the story suggests.
    And judicial independence is an essential element of our liberties. Do we really want judges that account to politicians for their decisions? Absolutely not. If the price is the odd daft decision that gets corrected on appeal it is a price worth paying.
    What's wrong with judges being accountable?
    They are already accountable and can be replaced.

    Parliament can also pass laws.
    I am searching in vain for the published ruling tbh
  • MattWMattW Posts: 32,736

    MattW said:

    I can't see the article, but I'm inclined to think the Times is overcooking it. We are alongside the French and the Yanks and I doubt we a re "leading" it in the way implied.

    Time will tell.
    Leading as in ‘you chaps don’t mind being in front, do you?’
    "I'll be right behind you, Baldrick !"
  • Pulpstar said:

    Andy_JS said:

    DavidL said:

    algarkirk said:

    MaxPB said:

    ydoethur said:

    MaxPB said:

    Taz said:

    lol

    We’re a nation of mugs.

    I’m sure this Judge has considered any potential victims. Nonces are known for their honesty.

    ‘ Paedophile migrant who failed to disclose child sex offence after coming to UK wins appeal against deportation as judge rules it was 'honest mistake’

    https://x.com/dailymail/status/2036053935606124883?s=61

    This judge should have liability for this person's future crimes. When he commits rape and sexual assaults against children in this country the judge should also be put on trial for this completely ridiculous decision.

    Making judges accountable for their stupid rulings is going to be the only way to change things.
    The problem is, of course, that you have to be a bit careful when criticising judges due to contempt of court rules.

    But how can you not hold them in contempt when they say and do stupid things like this?

    It's not as though it's recent either. Tom Denning and David Eady were both pretty dodgy.
    There's just a complete lack of accountability for judges. They exist isolation from their decisions and the havoc they can have on the wider community. Obviously this government won't do anything about it but I think both the Tories and Reform should propose something similar to this in their manifestoes on a justice reform section.
    To repeat what I posted earlier on this:


    I have not seen the judgment but the report indicates, sotto voce, that the decision the judge had to make was whether he could have a hearing, not that he could remain in the UK. SFAICS that remains to be decided. Which means that the case is deciding much less than the story suggests.
    And judicial independence is an essential element of our liberties. Do we really want judges that account to politicians for their decisions? Absolutely not. If the price is the odd daft decision that gets corrected on appeal it is a price worth paying.
    What's wrong with judges being accountable?
    They are already accountable and can be replaced.

    Parliament can also pass laws.
    I am searching in vain for the published ruling tbh
    The whole discussion could be based on fictional Dail Fail slop.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,910

    Pulpstar said:

    Andy_JS said:

    DavidL said:

    algarkirk said:

    MaxPB said:

    ydoethur said:

    MaxPB said:

    Taz said:

    lol

    We’re a nation of mugs.

    I’m sure this Judge has considered any potential victims. Nonces are known for their honesty.

    ‘ Paedophile migrant who failed to disclose child sex offence after coming to UK wins appeal against deportation as judge rules it was 'honest mistake’

    https://x.com/dailymail/status/2036053935606124883?s=61

    This judge should have liability for this person's future crimes. When he commits rape and sexual assaults against children in this country the judge should also be put on trial for this completely ridiculous decision.

    Making judges accountable for their stupid rulings is going to be the only way to change things.
    The problem is, of course, that you have to be a bit careful when criticising judges due to contempt of court rules.

    But how can you not hold them in contempt when they say and do stupid things like this?

    It's not as though it's recent either. Tom Denning and David Eady were both pretty dodgy.
    There's just a complete lack of accountability for judges. They exist isolation from their decisions and the havoc they can have on the wider community. Obviously this government won't do anything about it but I think both the Tories and Reform should propose something similar to this in their manifestoes on a justice reform section.
    To repeat what I posted earlier on this:


    I have not seen the judgment but the report indicates, sotto voce, that the decision the judge had to make was whether he could have a hearing, not that he could remain in the UK. SFAICS that remains to be decided. Which means that the case is deciding much less than the story suggests.
    And judicial independence is an essential element of our liberties. Do we really want judges that account to politicians for their decisions? Absolutely not. If the price is the odd daft decision that gets corrected on appeal it is a price worth paying.
    What's wrong with judges being accountable?
    They are already accountable and can be replaced.

    Parliament can also pass laws.
    I am searching in vain for the published ruling tbh
    The whole discussion could be based on fictional Dail Fail slop.
    Hopefully.
  • Wulfrun_PhilWulfrun_Phil Posts: 4,968

    Up to now, Labour have (nationally at least) held back from campaigning full on to discredit Farage on account of his links with Trump, presumably so as not to further compromise Starmer's relationship with Trump. That's in stark contrast with the way Labour has tried to portray Farage as Putin's lacky, a much less effective line of attack.

    It's time for the gloves to come off. Labour can't afford to continue to hold back playing their best card against Reform.

    As a card I think it is vastly, vastly overrated.

    Logic being simply that it will be history by the time of the next election.

    The next Presidential election is in 2028 and the next President will be inaugurated in January 2029, and we can finally put the wretched Trump era behind us.

    The next UK election is due in August 2029. We might see it earlier, in May, but I don't think we'll see it any earlier than that, given how unpopular Labour currently is.

    How many people in a British General Election are going to vote based on a former US President? I doubt its going to be many people, in the real world.

    It may seem all consuming today, but by then Trump will be gone and history - and thank f### for that!
    Not f###ing history, because if he's not discredited by the association Trump's bestie here could well end up being PM a few months after Trump has gone.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 6,096
    edited March 24
    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "PollCheck
    @poll_checker

    Senedd Voting Intention:

    Plaid Cymru: 33% (-4.0)
    Reform UK: 27% (+4.0)
    Labour: 13% (+3.0)
    Greens: 12% (-1.0)
    Conservative: 7% (-3.0)
    Liberal Democrats: 5% (=)
    Others: 4% (+2.0)

    Via: YouGov
    MOE: ±2.1%
    Field Work: 9 - 18 March changes w/ 13 January 2026

    Seats:

    PC 42
    Ref 29
    Lab 13
    Grn 11
    Con 1"

    https://x.com/poll_checker/status/2036511284397584686

    I think that underestimates the Reform seat total a bit relative to Plaid now the Senedd vote is pure PR
    With 6 member constituencies and a fairly well distributed Plaid and Reform vote, assuming Plaid have considerably evened up their vote by improving their position in the Labour heartlands, it's not difficult to imagine PC vs Reform being a 3 seats to 2 result quite widely across constituencies
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,626
    Pulpstar said:

    Royal Navy is going to
    Lead with WHAT.???
    Loads of Admirals
    If each admiral commands a modest 3 ships each it means our naval strength must be around the 400 ships mark
    Assuming you mean (life) boats, that's pretty much spot on.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,552
    edited March 24
    The Royal Navy could charter civilian ships to help clear Iranian mines in the Strait of Hormuz.

    Britain is leading an international coalition drawing up options to reopen the narrow shipping lane. Chartered vessels would act as minehunting “motherships”, deploying drones from their decks to seek out and destroy hidden underwater explosives across the Gulf. Naval chiefs are also considering converting some of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary’s four Bay-class landing ships into potential minehunters.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/03/24/iran-war-latest-news-israel-trump-us-strait-of-hormuz/

    And I was joking about them sending Boaty McBoatyFace.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,918
    edited March 24

    Andy_JS said:

    "PollCheck
    @poll_checker

    Senedd Voting Intention:

    Plaid Cymru: 33% (-4.0)
    Reform UK: 27% (+4.0)
    Labour: 13% (+3.0)
    Greens: 12% (-1.0)
    Conservative: 7% (-3.0)
    Liberal Democrats: 5% (=)
    Others: 4% (+2.0)

    Via: YouGov
    MOE: ±2.1%
    Field Work: 9 - 18 March changes w/ 13 January 2026

    Seats:

    PC 42
    Ref 29
    Lab 13
    Grn 11
    Con 1"

    https://x.com/poll_checker/status/2036511284397584686

    Tories on 1 seat?

    Poor Kemi.

    The Tories in May are set to be the Japanese during the Battle of Iwo Jima.
    I expect the Tories to gain Westminster and Barnet and hold Kensington and Chelsea in May.

    Kemi is proving very popular with posh wealthy people, especially posh rich West Londoners and Jews, it is now safe for you to say you are a Tory at one of your posh candlelit dinners and soirees.

    However unfortunately for her that is a rather niche market, with rightwingers in most of the rest of the UK preferring Farage to her and leftwingers preferring Labour and the Greens and centrists preferring Labour and the LDs and Scottish and Welsh nats voting SNP and Plaid
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,624
    The Tories would win more than 1 seat in Wales under the previous electoral system wouldn't they?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,843
    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "PollCheck
    @poll_checker

    Senedd Voting Intention:

    Plaid Cymru: 33% (-4.0)
    Reform UK: 27% (+4.0)
    Labour: 13% (+3.0)
    Greens: 12% (-1.0)
    Conservative: 7% (-3.0)
    Liberal Democrats: 5% (=)
    Others: 4% (+2.0)

    Via: YouGov
    MOE: ±2.1%
    Field Work: 9 - 18 March changes w/ 13 January 2026

    Seats:

    PC 42
    Ref 29
    Lab 13
    Grn 11
    Con 1"

    https://x.com/poll_checker/status/2036511284397584686

    Tories on 1 seat?

    Poor Kemi.

    The Tories in May are set to be the Japanese during the Battle of Iwo Jima.
    I expect the Tories to gain Westminster and Barnet and hold Kensington and Chelsea in May.

    Kemi is proving very popular with posh wealthy people, especially posh rich West Londoners and Jews, it is now safe for you to say you are a Tory at one of your posh candlelit dinners and soirees.

    However unfortunately for her that is a rather niche market, with rightwingers in most of the rest of the UK preferring Farage to her and leftwingers preferring Labour and the Greens and centrists preferring Labour and the LDs and Scottish and Welsh nats voting SNP and Plaid
    I predicted a Plaid Green coalition some time ago and expect that both Scotland and Wales could have independence seeking governments

    Labour 13 conservatives 1 lib dems 0 is quite a prediction but not impossible
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,887
    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "PollCheck
    @poll_checker

    Senedd Voting Intention:

    Plaid Cymru: 33% (-4.0)
    Reform UK: 27% (+4.0)
    Labour: 13% (+3.0)
    Greens: 12% (-1.0)
    Conservative: 7% (-3.0)
    Liberal Democrats: 5% (=)
    Others: 4% (+2.0)

    Via: YouGov
    MOE: ±2.1%
    Field Work: 9 - 18 March changes w/ 13 January 2026

    Seats:

    PC 42
    Ref 29
    Lab 13
    Grn 11
    Con 1"

    https://x.com/poll_checker/status/2036511284397584686

    I think that underestimates the Reform seat total a bit relative to Plaid now the Senedd vote is pure PR
    It's not pure PR. It's D'Hondt in 16 6-member constituencies. So there are still variables relating to vote distribution, and thresholds, that create a lumpy relationship between votes and seats.
  • Up to now, Labour have (nationally at least) held back from campaigning full on to discredit Farage on account of his links with Trump, presumably so as not to further compromise Starmer's relationship with Trump. That's in stark contrast with the way Labour has tried to portray Farage as Putin's lacky, a much less effective line of attack.

    It's time for the gloves to come off. Labour can't afford to continue to hold back playing their best card against Reform.

    As a card I think it is vastly, vastly overrated.

    Logic being simply that it will be history by the time of the next election.

    The next Presidential election is in 2028 and the next President will be inaugurated in January 2029, and we can finally put the wretched Trump era behind us.

    The next UK election is due in August 2029. We might see it earlier, in May, but I don't think we'll see it any earlier than that, given how unpopular Labour currently is.

    How many people in a British General Election are going to vote based on a former US President? I doubt its going to be many people, in the real world.

    It may seem all consuming today, but by then Trump will be gone and history - and thank f### for that!
    Not f###ing history, because if he's not discredited by the association Trump's bestie here could well end up being PM a few months after Trump has gone.
    He could, which is deeply concerning.

    But I can't imagine who is willing to vote for that f###er who would decide "on second thoughts, he was chummy with the former President of America, so had best not".

    Come the 2029 election we will be debating British politics and domestic issues first and foremost, not former US Presidents.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,782
    edited March 24

    The Royal Navy could charter civilian ships to help clear Iranian mines in the Strait of Hormuz.

    Britain is leading an international coalition drawing up options to reopen the narrow shipping lane. Chartered vessels would act as minehunting “motherships”, deploying drones from their decks to seek out and destroy hidden underwater explosives across the Gulf. Naval chiefs are also considering converting some of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary’s four Bay-class landing ships into potential minehunters.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/03/24/iran-war-latest-news-israel-trump-us-strait-of-hormuz/

    And I was joking about them sending Boaty McBoatyFace.

    I’m imagining a grizzled CalMac Master, desperately serving up mac and cheese amid Shaheds and a broken mezzanine deck.

    (Wtf happened to our minehunters? I know two people who have served on them in the past)
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,285
    edited March 24
    I've bought fancy cooking knives that are so sharp I cut myself on first usage, ten minutes ago, and now I'm scared of them
  • Leon said:

    I've bought fancy cooking knives that are so sharp I cut myself on first usage, ten minutes ago, and now I'm scared of them

    The sharp pointy end goes into your food, not your skin.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,918

    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "PollCheck
    @poll_checker

    Senedd Voting Intention:

    Plaid Cymru: 33% (-4.0)
    Reform UK: 27% (+4.0)
    Labour: 13% (+3.0)
    Greens: 12% (-1.0)
    Conservative: 7% (-3.0)
    Liberal Democrats: 5% (=)
    Others: 4% (+2.0)

    Via: YouGov
    MOE: ±2.1%
    Field Work: 9 - 18 March changes w/ 13 January 2026

    Seats:

    PC 42
    Ref 29
    Lab 13
    Grn 11
    Con 1"

    https://x.com/poll_checker/status/2036511284397584686

    Tories on 1 seat?

    Poor Kemi.

    The Tories in May are set to be the Japanese during the Battle of Iwo Jima.
    I expect the Tories to gain Westminster and Barnet and hold Kensington and Chelsea in May.

    Kemi is proving very popular with posh wealthy people, especially posh rich West Londoners and Jews, it is now safe for you to say you are a Tory at one of your posh candlelit dinners and soirees.

    However unfortunately for her that is a rather niche market, with rightwingers in most of the rest of the UK preferring Farage to her and leftwingers preferring Labour and the Greens and centrists preferring Labour and the LDs and Scottish and Welsh nats voting SNP and Plaid
    I predicted a Plaid Green coalition some time ago and expect that both Scotland and Wales could have independence seeking governments

    Labour 13 conservatives 1 lib dems 0 is quite a prediction but not impossible
    Plaid have not included seeking independence in their manifesto and have ruled out even pushing the issue in their first term, which is the main reason they are ahead.

    The SNP are already in power in Scotland but of course the UK government will refuse indyref2 whatever happens in May
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,743
    Official McSweeney phone lore is becoming more and more ludicrous
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,285

    Leon said:

    I've bought fancy cooking knives that are so sharp I cut myself on first usage, ten minutes ago, and now I'm scared of them

    The sharp pointy end goes into your food, not your skin.
    I was just chopping garlic and slighlty misjudged one slice and fucking hell, nearly took a finger off

    I miss my old crappy blunt knives that didn't want to kill me
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,887
    Andy_JS said:

    The Tories would win more than 1 seat in Wales under the previous electoral system wouldn't they?

    Don't know. With only 7% of the vote I would kinda doubt it.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,552
    Leon said:

    I've bought fancy cooking knives that are so sharp I cut myself on first usage, ten minutes ago, and now I'm scared of them

    The whole point of high end knives is not only better cutting experience but should reduce chance of accident because you shouldn't be having to apply much force to cut things.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,550
    Leon said:

    I've bought fancy cooking knives that are so sharp I cut myself on first usage, ten minutes ago, and now I'm scared of them

    A live test for the "yebbut blunt knives are actually more dangerous" crowd.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,782
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I've bought fancy cooking knives that are so sharp I cut myself on first usage, ten minutes ago, and now I'm scared of them

    The sharp pointy end goes into your food, not your skin.
    I was just chopping garlic and slighlty misjudged one slice and fucking hell, nearly took a finger off

    I miss my old crappy blunt knives that didn't want to kill me
    Sharp knife is a safe knife. I think the problem is you.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,847
    The public are all idiots latest...


    Steven Swinford
    @Steven_Swinford

    BREAKING

    Scotland Yard has confirmed that Morgan McSweeney reported the theft of his phone to them on October 20 last year

    They took down ***the wrong address*** and assumed the offence had taken place in East London rather than Westminster

    As a result they could not identify a suspect and the case was closed

    The Times has been told officers were 'too busy' to speak to Morgan McSweeney directly about it

    Having established the error following the report by The Sun on Sunday they have amended the report

    Worth bearing in mind that this was the theft of the phone with the prime minister's number, the number of every cabinet minister, sensitive WhatsApps, messages, emails… you name it . This was NOT an ordinary phone
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,782
    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    I've bought fancy cooking knives that are so sharp I cut myself on first usage, ten minutes ago, and now I'm scared of them

    A live test for the "yebbut blunt knives are actually more dangerous" crowd.
    Heh
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,910
    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    I've bought fancy cooking knives that are so sharp I cut myself on first usage, ten minutes ago, and now I'm scared of them

    A live test for the "yebbut blunt knives are actually more dangerous" crowd.
    That's a thing?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,552
    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    I've bought fancy cooking knives that are so sharp I cut myself on first usage, ten minutes ago, and now I'm scared of them

    A live test for the "yebbut blunt knives are actually more dangerous" crowd.
    I think its a live test for not learned proper cutting technique.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,887

    Leon said:

    I've bought fancy cooking knives that are so sharp I cut myself on first usage, ten minutes ago, and now I'm scared of them

    The whole point of high end knives is not only better cutting experience but should reduce chance of accident because you shouldn't be having to apply much force to cut things.
    There is a dangerous period when you adjust from one to the other.

    Had my wife's parents over for dinner last week (roast chicken, potato gratin, etc, was delicious, thanks for asking) and my father-in-law sharpened our knives for us. First couple of days I was getting them stuck in the wooden chopping board because I was pressing too hard.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,550
    kle4 said:

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    I've bought fancy cooking knives that are so sharp I cut myself on first usage, ten minutes ago, and now I'm scared of them

    A live test for the "yebbut blunt knives are actually more dangerous" crowd.
    That's a thing?
    Yup. Clichéd online argument. The theory is that blunt knives are unpredictable. But I suspect that, overall, sharp knives are more dangerous.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,676

    The Royal Navy could charter civilian ships to help clear Iranian mines in the Strait of Hormuz.

    Britain is leading an international coalition drawing up options to reopen the narrow shipping lane. Chartered vessels would act as minehunting “motherships”, deploying drones from their decks to seek out and destroy hidden underwater explosives across the Gulf. Naval chiefs are also considering converting some of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary’s four Bay-class landing ships into potential minehunters.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/03/24/iran-war-latest-news-israel-trump-us-strait-of-hormuz/

    And I was joking about them sending Boaty McBoatyFace.

    Like Dunkirk.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,701

    The public are all idiots latest...


    Steven Swinford
    @Steven_Swinford

    BREAKING

    Scotland Yard has confirmed that Morgan McSweeney reported the theft of his phone to them on October 20 last year

    They took down ***the wrong address*** and assumed the offence had taken place in East London rather than Westminster

    As a result they could not identify a suspect and the case was closed

    The Times has been told officers were 'too busy' to speak to Morgan McSweeney directly about it

    Having established the error following the report by The Sun on Sunday they have amended the report

    Worth bearing in mind that this was the theft of the phone with the prime minister's number, the number of every cabinet minister, sensitive WhatsApps, messages, emails… you name it . This was NOT an ordinary phone

    It may also have had the Met Police Commissioner’s number.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,847
    Latest stock market manipulation from the grifter administration:



    The Kobeissi Letter
    @KobeissiLetter

    BREAKING: The US has developed a "15-point plan" to end the Iran War and claims that Iran has agreed to many of the key points, per Axios.

    Details include:

    1. Proposal includes many of the same demands the US made during the last round of nuclear talks in Geneva

    2. US envoy Steve Witkoff has told Trump that Iran has agreed on giving up their stockpile of highly enriched uranium

    3. The document calls for zero uranium enrichment in Iran

    4. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is concerned Trump might strike a deal that falls well short of Israel's objectives

    Iran continues to deny that talks are taking place.


    https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2036531066832339089
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,843
    edited March 24
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "PollCheck
    @poll_checker

    Senedd Voting Intention:

    Plaid Cymru: 33% (-4.0)
    Reform UK: 27% (+4.0)
    Labour: 13% (+3.0)
    Greens: 12% (-1.0)
    Conservative: 7% (-3.0)
    Liberal Democrats: 5% (=)
    Others: 4% (+2.0)

    Via: YouGov
    MOE: ±2.1%
    Field Work: 9 - 18 March changes w/ 13 January 2026

    Seats:

    PC 42
    Ref 29
    Lab 13
    Grn 11
    Con 1"

    https://x.com/poll_checker/status/2036511284397584686

    Tories on 1 seat?

    Poor Kemi.

    The Tories in May are set to be the Japanese during the Battle of Iwo Jima.
    I expect the Tories to gain Westminster and Barnet and hold Kensington and Chelsea in May.

    Kemi is proving very popular with posh wealthy people, especially posh rich West Londoners and Jews, it is now safe for you to say you are a Tory at one of your posh candlelit dinners and soirees.

    However unfortunately for her that is a rather niche market, with rightwingers in most of the rest of the UK preferring Farage to her and leftwingers preferring Labour and the Greens and centrists preferring Labour and the LDs and Scottish and Welsh nats voting SNP and Plaid
    I predicted a Plaid Green coalition some time ago and expect that both Scotland and Wales could have independence seeking governments

    Labour 13 conservatives 1 lib dems 0 is quite a prediction but not impossible
    Plaid have not included seeking independence in their manifesto and have ruled out even pushing the issue in their first term, which is the main reason they are ahead.

    The SNP are already in power in Scotland but of course the UK government will refuse indyref2 whatever happens in May
    The main reason Plaid are ahead is the utter contempt for labour's decades in power

    The point is that if both Scotland and Wales elect independence parties then there is little prospect of any respect for Westminster and tensions between the nations will be the result
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,902
    Andy_JS said:

    DavidL said:

    algarkirk said:

    MaxPB said:

    ydoethur said:

    MaxPB said:

    Taz said:

    lol

    We’re a nation of mugs.

    I’m sure this Judge has considered any potential victims. Nonces are known for their honesty.

    ‘ Paedophile migrant who failed to disclose child sex offence after coming to UK wins appeal against deportation as judge rules it was 'honest mistake’

    https://x.com/dailymail/status/2036053935606124883?s=61

    This judge should have liability for this person's future crimes. When he commits rape and sexual assaults against children in this country the judge should also be put on trial for this completely ridiculous decision.

    Making judges accountable for their stupid rulings is going to be the only way to change things.
    The problem is, of course, that you have to be a bit careful when criticising judges due to contempt of court rules.

    But how can you not hold them in contempt when they say and do stupid things like this?

    It's not as though it's recent either. Tom Denning and David Eady were both pretty dodgy.
    There's just a complete lack of accountability for judges. They exist isolation from their decisions and the havoc they can have on the wider community. Obviously this government won't do anything about it but I think both the Tories and Reform should propose something similar to this in their manifestoes on a justice reform section.
    To repeat what I posted earlier on this:


    I have not seen the judgment but the report indicates, sotto voce, that the decision the judge had to make was whether he could have a hearing, not that he could remain in the UK. SFAICS that remains to be decided. Which means that the case is deciding much less than the story suggests.
    And judicial independence is an essential element of our liberties. Do we really want judges that account to politicians for their decisions? Absolutely not. If the price is the odd daft decision that gets corrected on appeal it is a price worth paying.
    What's wrong with judges being accountable?
    The question you ask is an element of the 'Quis custodiet' question, asked in a finite and fallible world. Judicial independence and judicial accountability are in part incompatible opposites. If, for example, Supreme Court justices were 'accountable' in some way to someone, then that someone would have a higher legal authority than the SC judges - which would be an absurdity - with potential for an infinite regress.

    All other people with any sort of judicial office, however high or low, are subject to review and appeal in their decisions, ultimately in the Supreme Court. That is the principal line of accountability. There is also provision for dispensing with office holders on various grounds.

    What you can't and should not have is the mob, media or otherwise being the first or final court of appeal. Or in other words, judicial office holders of any sort are not accountable to the mob, the masses or the Mail.

    The mix of practitioners, judiciary and academia makes its own long term assessment of judges. As does the wider world, which has a tendency to like UK legal jurisdiction when there is a choice of forum.

  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,526

    The public are all idiots latest...


    Steven Swinford
    @Steven_Swinford

    BREAKING

    Scotland Yard has confirmed that Morgan McSweeney reported the theft of his phone to them on October 20 last year

    They took down ***the wrong address*** and assumed the offence had taken place in East London rather than Westminster

    As a result they could not identify a suspect and the case was closed

    The Times has been told officers were 'too busy' to speak to Morgan McSweeney directly about it

    Having established the error following the report by The Sun on Sunday they have amended the report

    Worth bearing in mind that this was the theft of the phone with the prime minister's number, the number of every cabinet minister, sensitive WhatsApps, messages, emails… you name it . This was NOT an ordinary phone

    Is it beyond the authorities to demand that all MPs, Spads, officials etc are only allowed a gov issued phone to use which must be backed up securely and that they are not allowed to store messages or numbers of others in the same position to be stored or contacted through private phones? It’s so so simple. As ever, they will surely agree that if they have nothing to hide they have nothing to fear from such a rule. Make it a criminal office for them to not follow the rule.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,910

    Latest stock market manipulation from the grifter administration:



    The Kobeissi Letter
    @KobeissiLetter

    BREAKING: The US has developed a "15-point plan" to end the Iran War and claims that Iran has agreed to many of the key points, per Axios.

    Details include:

    1. Proposal includes many of the same demands the US made during the last round of nuclear talks in Geneva

    2. US envoy Steve Witkoff has told Trump that Iran has agreed on giving up their stockpile of highly enriched uranium

    3. The document calls for zero uranium enrichment in Iran

    4. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is concerned Trump might strike a deal that falls well short of Israel's objectives

    Iran continues to deny that talks are taking place.


    https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2036531066832339089

    I can believe Iran may well be lying about that. Obviously Trump and co do lie too, but the regime in Tehran has incentive to not admit to talks.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,550

    Leon said:

    I've bought fancy cooking knives that are so sharp I cut myself on first usage, ten minutes ago, and now I'm scared of them

    The whole point of high end knives is not only better cutting experience but should reduce chance of accident because you shouldn't be having to apply much force to cut things.
    There is a dangerous period when you adjust from one to the other.

    Had my wife's parents over for dinner last week (roast chicken, potato gratin, etc, was delicious, thanks for asking) and my father-in-law sharpened our knives for us. First couple of days I was getting them stuck in the wooden chopping board because I was pressing too hard.
    Recommendation for knife sharpener for the unskilled:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/AnySharp-Knife-Sharpener-PowerGrip-Silver/dp/B0029X0RTU/

    I do them once a week.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,550

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    I've bought fancy cooking knives that are so sharp I cut myself on first usage, ten minutes ago, and now I'm scared of them

    A live test for the "yebbut blunt knives are actually more dangerous" crowd.
    I think its a live test for not learned proper cutting technique.
    Oh God I've summoned them. I'm so sorry!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,918

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "PollCheck
    @poll_checker

    Senedd Voting Intention:

    Plaid Cymru: 33% (-4.0)
    Reform UK: 27% (+4.0)
    Labour: 13% (+3.0)
    Greens: 12% (-1.0)
    Conservative: 7% (-3.0)
    Liberal Democrats: 5% (=)
    Others: 4% (+2.0)

    Via: YouGov
    MOE: ±2.1%
    Field Work: 9 - 18 March changes w/ 13 January 2026

    Seats:

    PC 42
    Ref 29
    Lab 13
    Grn 11
    Con 1"

    https://x.com/poll_checker/status/2036511284397584686

    Tories on 1 seat?

    Poor Kemi.

    The Tories in May are set to be the Japanese during the Battle of Iwo Jima.
    I expect the Tories to gain Westminster and Barnet and hold Kensington and Chelsea in May.

    Kemi is proving very popular with posh wealthy people, especially posh rich West Londoners and Jews, it is now safe for you to say you are a Tory at one of your posh candlelit dinners and soirees.

    However unfortunately for her that is a rather niche market, with rightwingers in most of the rest of the UK preferring Farage to her and leftwingers preferring Labour and the Greens and centrists preferring Labour and the LDs and Scottish and Welsh nats voting SNP and Plaid
    I predicted a Plaid Green coalition some time ago and expect that both Scotland and Wales could have independence seeking governments

    Labour 13 conservatives 1 lib dems 0 is quite a prediction but not impossible
    Plaid have not included seeking independence in their manifesto and have ruled out even pushing the issue in their first term, which is the main reason they are ahead.

    The SNP are already in power in Scotland but of course the UK government will refuse indyref2 whatever happens in May
    The main reason Plaid are ahead is the utter contempt for labour's decades in power

    The point is that if both Scotland and Wales elect independence parties then there is little prospect of any respect for Westminster and tensions between the nations will be the result
    If Plaid were pushing independence hard, more of their current voters would be sticking with Labour or going Reform.

    The UK government will of course ignore any independence push anyway
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,826
    carnforth said:

    kle4 said:

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    I've bought fancy cooking knives that are so sharp I cut myself on first usage, ten minutes ago, and now I'm scared of them

    A live test for the "yebbut blunt knives are actually more dangerous" crowd.
    That's a thing?
    Yup. Clichéd online argument. The theory is that blunt knives are unpredictable. But I suspect that, overall, sharp knives are more dangerous.
    All the professional food preparation people disagree.

    What is dangerous is the combination of ignorance about method and sharp knives.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,552
    kinabalu said:

    The Royal Navy could charter civilian ships to help clear Iranian mines in the Strait of Hormuz.

    Britain is leading an international coalition drawing up options to reopen the narrow shipping lane. Chartered vessels would act as minehunting “motherships”, deploying drones from their decks to seek out and destroy hidden underwater explosives across the Gulf. Naval chiefs are also considering converting some of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary’s four Bay-class landing ships into potential minehunters.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/03/24/iran-war-latest-news-israel-trump-us-strait-of-hormuz/

    And I was joking about them sending Boaty McBoatyFace.

    Like Dunkirk.
    No not like Dunkirk at all.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,968
    Leon said:

    I've bought fancy cooking knives that are so sharp I cut myself on first usage, ten minutes ago, and now I'm scared of them

    I have a selection of reasonably sharp knives, and I bought a single fancy Japanese kitchen knife. I opened the box to look at it and cut myself
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,552

    The public are all idiots latest...


    Steven Swinford
    @Steven_Swinford

    BREAKING

    Scotland Yard has confirmed that Morgan McSweeney reported the theft of his phone to them on October 20 last year

    They took down ***the wrong address*** and assumed the offence had taken place in East London rather than Westminster

    As a result they could not identify a suspect and the case was closed

    The Times has been told officers were 'too busy' to speak to Morgan McSweeney directly about it

    Having established the error following the report by The Sun on Sunday they have amended the report

    Worth bearing in mind that this was the theft of the phone with the prime minister's number, the number of every cabinet minister, sensitive WhatsApps, messages, emails… you name it . This was NOT an ordinary phone

    What an amazing set of coincidences.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,550

    carnforth said:

    kle4 said:

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    I've bought fancy cooking knives that are so sharp I cut myself on first usage, ten minutes ago, and now I'm scared of them

    A live test for the "yebbut blunt knives are actually more dangerous" crowd.
    That's a thing?
    Yup. Clichéd online argument. The theory is that blunt knives are unpredictable. But I suspect that, overall, sharp knives are more dangerous.
    All the professional food preparation people disagree.

    What is dangerous is the combination of ignorance about method and sharp knives.
    Right, but the unstated question is "what's more dangerous for the average person"
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,843
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "PollCheck
    @poll_checker

    Senedd Voting Intention:

    Plaid Cymru: 33% (-4.0)
    Reform UK: 27% (+4.0)
    Labour: 13% (+3.0)
    Greens: 12% (-1.0)
    Conservative: 7% (-3.0)
    Liberal Democrats: 5% (=)
    Others: 4% (+2.0)

    Via: YouGov
    MOE: ±2.1%
    Field Work: 9 - 18 March changes w/ 13 January 2026

    Seats:

    PC 42
    Ref 29
    Lab 13
    Grn 11
    Con 1"

    https://x.com/poll_checker/status/2036511284397584686

    Tories on 1 seat?

    Poor Kemi.

    The Tories in May are set to be the Japanese during the Battle of Iwo Jima.
    I expect the Tories to gain Westminster and Barnet and hold Kensington and Chelsea in May.

    Kemi is proving very popular with posh wealthy people, especially posh rich West Londoners and Jews, it is now safe for you to say you are a Tory at one of your posh candlelit dinners and soirees.

    However unfortunately for her that is a rather niche market, with rightwingers in most of the rest of the UK preferring Farage to her and leftwingers preferring Labour and the Greens and centrists preferring Labour and the LDs and Scottish and Welsh nats voting SNP and Plaid
    I predicted a Plaid Green coalition some time ago and expect that both Scotland and Wales could have independence seeking governments

    Labour 13 conservatives 1 lib dems 0 is quite a prediction but not impossible
    Plaid have not included seeking independence in their manifesto and have ruled out even pushing the issue in their first term, which is the main reason they are ahead.

    The SNP are already in power in Scotland but of course the UK government will refuse indyref2 whatever happens in May
    The main reason Plaid are ahead is the utter contempt for labour's decades in power

    The point is that if both Scotland and Wales elect independence parties then there is little prospect of any respect for Westminster and tensions between the nations will be the result
    If Plaid were pushing independence hard, more of their current voters would be sticking with Labour or going Reform.

    The UK government will of course ignore any independence push anyway
    No they would not

    You need only to look at the history of the SNP in Scotland which is now happening in Wales
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