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  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,312
    Scott_P said:

    DavidL said:


    In Vienna?

    This means nothing to me...
    I went to Vienna a couple of years ago, couldn't get the fecking song out of my head.

  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Are there any local by-elections tonight, even though its Good Friday eve? I hope so, anything to change the turgid motions of endless pop groups.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    Alex Harvey, The only way to finish off a drunken rock night.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSDG_orE2I8
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    "You obviously missed the infamous and lengthy discussion on vegetables and kitchen utensils ..."

    Damn, I am sorry that I missed that.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    "Are there any local by-elections tonight, even though its Good Friday eve? I hope so, anything to change the turgid motions of endless pop groups. "

    Sorry, can't help you there. However, given that my Gf has just walked in with the Times, and to try to move the conversation along a bit and be a bit on topic - Lindsay McIntosh seems to be on the front page in Scotland an awful lot nowadays doesn't she?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046
    Just wiki-ed John Foxx.

    "His father was a coal miner and pugilist, his mother a millworker."

    I never knew that and yet he would go on to transform and inform new music for the past nearly 40 years.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,564
    On topic, the only gig I've been to was Pink Floyd, mainly because I fancied someone who wanted to go. Sadly, I can't remember anything about her (and I'm sure she feels the same), but Floyd were good.

    In general I think we all like music we heard when we were 20 or so. Some progress, others like me (and TSE) remain loyal to Abba. It helps when you've got some sort of personal stake - I'd already liked the members of Abba as individual singers, so when they got together it was wonderful.

    Oh, THAT topic? Well, neither election is getting much coverage yet south of the border, but I'd think the Euros will warm up closer to May 22, with lots of press stuff about UKIP poised to break through. Still hope to win my bet with DavidL that turnout will be up as a result.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @bbclaurak: on #newsnight, I've been speaking to Marine Le Pen - she tells me Nigel Farage is absolutely part of her 'united front of refusal'
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046

    On topic, the only gig I've been to was Pink Floyd, mainly because I fancied someone who wanted to go. Sadly, I can't remember anything about her (and I'm sure she feels the same), but Floyd were good.

    In general I think we all like music we heard when we were 20 or so. Some progress, others like me (and TSE) remain loyal to Abba. It helps when you've got some sort of personal stake - I'd already liked the members of Abba as individual singers, so when they got together it was wonderful.

    Oh, THAT topic? Well, neither election is getting much coverage yet south of the border, but I'd think the Euros will warm up closer to May 22, with lots of press stuff about UKIP poised to break through. Still hope to win my bet with DavidL that turnout will be up as a result.

    wow Nick - one more for the bucket list: climb a tree and go to a gig somewhere.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    OK - I've been told to watch the itv4 football - try not to speak too much about music people :)
  • eekeek Posts: 28,586

    No-one's mentioned the Rezillos/Revillos.

    And what about Aztec Camera and Orange Juice?

    Roddy Frame has a new album out next month and a tour where no doubt I will be forced to attend one or two nights..

    Thankfully the proclaimers are quiet at the moment. Seeing them in concert is hilarious as they namecheck the 10 year olds dragged there by their parents.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578



    In general I think we all like music we heard when we were 20 or so.

    Probably. I also think there is also that either you rebel against the music your parents were always playing, or you end up liking the same sort of thing as them. Hence why I am a fan of the Moody Blues and Abba (speaking of, does anyone really not like Abba? I've always thought they were timelessly catchy - I was a teen ten years ago and they were extremely popular)
  • FluffyThoughtsFluffyThoughts Posts: 2,420
    Best Scots' Band? I give you the following:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYGtXcDRoi0

    An English hymn by a collection of men soon - if not already - filled by Her Majesty's finest English, Scots, Oirish, Fijian, Saffers, Tongans, etc....
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046
    SeanT said:

    TOPPING said:

    On topic, the only gig I've been to was Pink Floyd, mainly because I fancied someone who wanted to go. Sadly, I can't remember anything about her (and I'm sure she feels the same), but Floyd were good.

    In general I think we all like music we heard when we were 20 or so. Some progress, others like me (and TSE) remain loyal to Abba. It helps when you've got some sort of personal stake - I'd already liked the members of Abba as individual singers, so when they got together it was wonderful.

    Oh, THAT topic? Well, neither election is getting much coverage yet south of the border, but I'd think the Euros will warm up closer to May 22, with lots of press stuff about UKIP poised to break through. Still hope to win my bet with DavidL that turnout will be up as a result.

    wow Nick - one more for the bucket list: climb a tree and go to a gig somewhere.
    Mr Palmer is a strange cove. Doesn't drink, doesn't like music, doesn't feel British, doesn't climb trees, doesn't have kids, doesn't do anything naughty, worries about badgers.

    He is living proof that the Commons still welcomes shrieking eccentrics. And I guess that is good.
    Nick seems a nice enough bloke and super-reasonable (although that might be because he is yet to re-assume his position as a legislator) but if we allow bullingdon boys/toff/out of touch/etc as a valid criticism of today's tory politicians then the attributes you list surely place him further out of touch than the most remote of remote etonians.

    Back on topic, and this name drop trumps yours big style, all things considered: I remember seeing U2 support the Lemon Kittens at the Moonlight Club in West Hampstead some years ago. To quite an enthusiastic, if sparse crowd.

  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,147
    Mogwai; their soundtrack for The Returned was one of the best things about it.

    Perhaps an indication of Scotland being a relatively small place, I used to work in an office beside Al (Zal) Cleminson, a whiz at Excel and really nice bloke, shared a flat with one of the Revillos' backing singers (and in an entirely unconnected incident, had a mild grapple with another one), also went to primary school with Colin from The Shamen.

    Rock'n'Roll, phew.
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789
    They say a tree grows as tall as its many branches. But not all God's children have the same chances.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578
    edited April 2014
    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    TOPPING said:

    On topic, the only gig I've been to was Pink Floyd, mainly because I fancied someone who wanted to go. Sadly, I can't remember anything about her (and I'm sure she feels the same), but Floyd were good.

    In general I think we all like music we heard when we were 20 or so. Some progress, others like me (and TSE) remain loyal to Abba. It helps when you've got some sort of personal stake - I'd already liked the members of Abba as individual singers, so when they got together it was wonderful.

    Oh, THAT topic? Well, neither election is getting much coverage yet south of the border, but I'd think the Euros will warm up closer to May 22, with lots of press stuff about UKIP poised to break through. Still hope to win my bet with DavidL that turnout will be up as a result.

    wow Nick - one more for the bucket list: climb a tree and go to a gig somewhere.
    Mr Palmer is a strange cove. Doesn't drink, doesn't like music, doesn't feel British, doesn't climb trees, doesn't have kids, doesn't do anything naughty, worries about badgers.

    He is living proof that the Commons still welcomes shrieking eccentrics. And I guess that is good.
    ...super-reasonable (although that might be because he is yet to re-assume his position as a legislator)

    Oh I think many legislators are very reasonable people. They just have to pretend not to be out of party loyalty, which is more demanding when you are in government or directly opposing that government on the national stage. The better they are at ignoring that voice of reason, or depending on how willing they are to 'creatively interpret' all facts to suit the party line, the higher they will rise in their party hierarchy.

    I almost fell out of my chair during the first 2010 GE debate when Cameron said that not everything Labour had done was wrong and he would keep the good bits - it's not often in such a partisan setting you hear a senior politician admit openly the other side had a point about something.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Boris Johnson 'an epic Europhile' claims Louise Mensch

    The former Conservative MP says "there is no chance at all" the Mayor of London could lead the Tories given his "raging" Europhilia

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10772851/Boris-Johnson-an-epic-Europhile-claims-Louise-Mensch.html
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578
    edited April 2014
    kle4 said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    TOPPING said:

    On topic, the only gig I've been to was Pink Floyd, mainly because I fancied someone who wanted to go. Sadly, I can't remember anything about her (and I'm sure she feels the same), but Floyd were good.

    In general I think we all like music we heard when we were 20 or so. Some progress, others like me (and TSE) remain loyal to Abba. It helps when you've got some sort of personal stake - I'd already liked the members of Abba as individual singers, so when they got together it was wonderful.

    Oh, THAT topic? Well, neither election is getting much coverage yet south of the border, but I'd think the Euros will warm up closer to May 22, with lots of press stuff about UKIP poised to break through. Still hope to win my bet with DavidL that turnout will be up as a result.

    wow Nick - one more for the bucket list: climb a tree and go to a gig somewhere.
    Mr Palmer is a strange cove. Doesn't drink, doesn't like music, doesn't feel British, doesn't climb trees, doesn't have kids, doesn't do anything naughty, worries about badgers.

    He is living proof that the Commons still welcomes shrieking eccentrics. And I guess that is good.
    ...super-reasonable (although that might be because he is yet to re-assume his position as a legislator)

    Oh I think many legislators are very reasonable people. They just have to pretend not to be out of party loyalty, which is more demanding when you are in government or directly opposing that government on the national stage. The better they are at ignoring that voice of reason, or depending on how willing they are to 'creatively interpret' all facts to suit the party line, the higher they will rise in their party hierarchy.

    I almost fell out of my chair during the first 2010 GE debate when Cameron said that not everything Labour had done was wrong and he would keep the good bits - it's not often in such a partisan setting you hear a senior politician admit openly the other side had a point about something.
    Oh, and of course if you play the monster long enough, you often become a monster for real, hence why many otherwise reasonable people become warped by the atmosphere of the political classes over time.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    At the risk of pure hypocrisy given the amount of time I waste on here... Here's a fellow with too much time on his hands

    http://jasonomahony.ie/life-under-the-im-all-right-jackboot-the-ukip-government-of-2016-2017/
  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245
    SeanT said:

    isam said:

    Boris Johnson 'an epic Europhile' claims Louise Mensch

    The former Conservative MP says "there is no chance at all" the Mayor of London could lead the Tories given his "raging" Europhilia

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10772851/Boris-Johnson-an-epic-Europhile-claims-Louise-Mensch.html

    Mensch keeps banging this drum on Twitter. I suspect it is an attempt to curry favour with Bojo's rivals for the leadership - e.g. Osborne.
    Other than being more physically attractive than the majority of MP's what has Mensch done to qualify for the amount of press instead?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Scott_P said:

    @bbclaurak: on #newsnight, I've been speaking to Marine Le Pen - she tells me Nigel Farage is absolutely part of her 'united front of refusal'

    tut tut

    Laura Kuenssberg ‏@bbclaurak 29m

    Le Pen says her party 'represent the same options' as UKIP on major issues #newsnight..awkward given UKIP turned down offer to work with her
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    The full details of the leaflets handed out by Labour to combat the UKIP threat...

    Dear oh law..

    http://www.columnist.org.uk/2014/04/17/labour-caught-distributing-lie-filled-leaflets-about-ukip/
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578
    isam said:

    At the risk of pure hypocrisy given the amount of time I waste on here... Here's a fellow with too much time on his hands

    http://jasonomahony.ie/life-under-the-im-all-right-jackboot-the-ukip-government-of-2016-2017/

    Some of it quite amusing, although I'm disappointed they didn't say who the 'new conservative leader' was in the scenario, it would have added something to imagine which of the current crop would have been overseeing the proposed situation.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    saddened said:

    SeanT said:

    isam said:

    Boris Johnson 'an epic Europhile' claims Louise Mensch

    The former Conservative MP says "there is no chance at all" the Mayor of London could lead the Tories given his "raging" Europhilia

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10772851/Boris-Johnson-an-epic-Europhile-claims-Louise-Mensch.html

    Mensch keeps banging this drum on Twitter. I suspect it is an attempt to curry favour with Bojo's rivals for the leadership - e.g. Osborne.
    Other than being more physically attractive than the majority of MP's what has Mensch done to qualify for the amount of press instead?
    Simple. She's a novelist.

    All novelists must be treated with the deepest respect.

  • FluffyThoughtsFluffyThoughts Posts: 2,420
    Regarding music: An American song but which UK city would you associate it with.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzxuknbQ5VY

    City is the keyword....
  • dodradedodrade Posts: 597
    My favourite Scottish band are the synthpop trio Chvrches, Sunil would love them though when I mentioned them on a thread a few months ago he hadn't heard of them.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    I wish Mensch would start commenting on PB again.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Bumped into Lulu and Yoko Ono coming out of the lifts in John Lewis Oxford St once.....both quite short....
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited April 2014

    Bumped into Lulu and Yoko Ono coming out of the lifts in John Lewis Oxford St once.....both quite short....

    Carlotta

    Did they get out at the first floor and then take the escalators up to the top floor?

  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    Good evening, everyone.

    Bercow has said that many female MPs are shunning PMQs because it's too loud:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27062577

    If only there was someone whose job was to ensure some sort of order was kept.
  • FluffyThoughtsFluffyThoughts Posts: 2,420
    edited April 2014
    I shared a house with Tim Whelan* from "Furniture". He used to boast that he enjoyed bedding pretendy lesbians that visited. **

    As a male I chose to avoid such temptations. I know more crims then pop-stars.... :(

    * Mao hatted.
    ** Apols Tim.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    also went to primary school with Colin from The Shamen.

    Not often remembered as a Scottish band. I did a show with them when Will was still there
  • steve_garnersteve_garner Posts: 1,019
    Thought I'd de-lurk for long enough to say I'm surprised that none of the aficionados of Scottish music have mentioned Runrig! Apologies if I've missed it.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Mensch posted here??? Did she post under her real name?
  • asjohnstoneasjohnstone Posts: 1,276
    The Pastels are the finest band to ever come out of Scotland, even Nirvana covered their songs.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    F1: soft and medium tyres in China. Same as the previous races, save Malaysia, which I think had medium and hard.

    I'm hoping there'll be tyre degradation again. If there is, bear in mind Williams and Ferrari both had to make one stop more than the teams ahead of them (I think that includes McLaren). High tyre degradation is bad for those two teams.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    Mr. Garner, welcome back.

    Mr. Briskin, I believe not. Could be wrong, I think it was before my time.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,564
    I dunno, I'm quite normal in my circle, whereas SeanT would definitely stand out as an exotic bird. But I think most of us slightly play up our more eccentric sides on the forum for amusement. A slightly risky thing to do if you're standing for election, perhaps. Never mind.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,312

    Thought I'd de-lurk for long enough to say I'm surprised that none of the aficionados of Scottish music have mentioned Runrig! Apologies if I've missed it.

    Or, indeed, Mr Derek Dick, aka Fish. Although I think the rest of the band was from Aylesbury.

  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,147
    edited April 2014
    Scott_P said:

    also went to primary school with Colin from The Shamen.

    Not often remembered as a Scottish band. I did a show with them when Will was still there
    Bumped into Colin a few times when he was still doing Alone Again Or but didn't really see him after that. The Shamen certainly chimed with that decade.

    Another more-or-less Scottish group, The Chimes!
  • steve_garnersteve_garner Posts: 1,019
    You are too kind Mr Dancer, quite as I'd expect from a fellow constituent of Ed Balls MP.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    The Pastels are the finest band to ever come out of Scotland, even Nirvana covered their songs.

    Wasn't that The Vaselines?

  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    I dunno, I'm quite normal in my circle, whereas SeanT would definitely stand out as an exotic bird. But I think most of us slightly play up our more eccentric sides on the forum for amusement. A slightly risky thing to do if you're standing for election, perhaps. Never mind.

    More on that leaflet you guys are distributing Nick

    Bit much??

    http://www.columnist.org.uk/2014/04/17/labour-caught-distributing-lie-filled-leaflets-about-ukip/
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    AndyJS said:

    I wish Mensch would start commenting on PB again.

    I too would welcome that fish back into the barrel...
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    Mr. Garner, I hope you have a garage to keep your car safe from bumbling Balls.
  • TomsToms Posts: 2,478
    As a grateful inheritor of genes through the highland clearances (the Scottish diaspora? ) can I just contribute my tuppence and write that I think SeanT is quite right to broadcast his distress at the possibility of `Yes'.

    Scots were, I believe, never conquered---neither by the Romans nor by the English. And generally they punch above their weight---sometimes literally as at the Glasgow airport. Think more generally of their innumerable practical inventions (Watt, Napier and many others), of their contributions to science and mathematics (Maxwell, Higgs for example), and their food, such as haggis and the deep fried Mars Bar (Anon).

    Just saying: I reckon we should cast aside our reserve and make it clear to the Scots that they are family and should continue to be so.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    Mr. T, without clicking the link, was he the chap who reportedly had a few ribs removed?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    Mr. Toms, that's highly debatable.

    For a start, (too modern for me to be sure), I believe it was mostly Pictish when the Romans were about.

    Secondly, the Antonine Wall is clearly in Scottish territory. Also, the Romans didn't make that much of an effort, because there wasn't that much they wanted in Caledonia.

    There was the Kingdom of the Rock, a Brythonic (Welshy) kingdom in the... southwest, I think. It's mentioned in Vanished Kingdoms. William Wallace, who came from there, was called William the Briton during his lifetime, though I suspect that isn't mentioned in a certain film of dubious accuracy.

    Some northern isles were only given to Scotland as a wedding gift by a Norwegian king, and so on.

    The British Isles generally has been a tough nut to crack for anyone. Better for us to be nuts together. Ahem.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Oh, I'm bored of the youth football now - and can't get my head around Mensch posting here - I'd simply assumed NP was the only one.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    Mr. Briskin, a Conservative chap (Stewart Jackson?) did for a time, under his own name. We also had a one-off post from Mark Oaten following the revelations about his private life.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Yes, I remember Stewart Jackson. I remember a Con councillor getting into a bit of trouble over nothing as well.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Oh - Jackson was the councillor wasn't he??
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Mr. Briskin, a Conservative chap (Stewart Jackson?) did for a time, under his own name. We also had a one-off post from Mark Oaten following the revelations about his private life.

    Didn't a former pb poster frighten mr Jackson off ;-)

  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Anyway, my head's all - MENSCH
  • hamiltonacehamiltonace Posts: 664
    One of the most interesting things that I find at the moment is that discussion about the vote is much more active when I am in England than in Scotland. I am not sure if this is because most Scots have already made their mind up or if it is just complete apathy. The majority of no votes are silent but the yes voters are very vocal. This tends to skew the perception from the airwaves.

    So far the assumption in Scotland is the no vote will win. If this thought changes then we may move from apathy to panic bypassing all stages between. The reality is that business and peoples jobs are at stake. I have seen already some nervousness. Small companies cutting back on investment and credit and a general wait and see attitude amongst may others.

    Today I heard that a major US owned company local to us in Lanarkshire has had enough and will close down with 200 jobs gone. They sell a lot in England but nothing in Scotland. Several people I know have already asked me if I have any jobs. Maybe the plant would have gone anyway but this referendum did not help at all.










  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    If we're swapping eccentric fellows, Mad Jack Churchill's quite a good one. The only man in WWII to kill an enemy with a bow and arrow.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406

    Mr. Briskin, a Conservative chap (Stewart Jackson?) did for a time, under his own name. We also had a one-off post from Mark Oaten following the revelations about his private life.

    What revelations they were !
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    Mr. Ace, best of luck with your situation. Whether Yes or No, I hope it's not a bad result for you.

    Mr. Pulpstar, well quite.

    Mr. Briskin, I'm reasonably sure he was, and is, an MP.
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    isam said:

    I dunno, I'm quite normal in my circle, whereas SeanT would definitely stand out as an exotic bird. But I think most of us slightly play up our more eccentric sides on the forum for amusement. A slightly risky thing to do if you're standing for election, perhaps. Never mind.

    More on that leaflet you guys are distributing Nick

    Bit much??

    http://www.columnist.org.uk/2014/04/17/labour-caught-distributing-lie-filled-leaflets-about-ukip/
    That response is fairly UKIP skewed, and UKIP has had its own leaflet issues.
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    edited April 2014
    Toms said:

    As a grateful inheritor of genes through the highland clearances (the Scottish diaspora? ) can I just contribute my tuppence and write that I think SeanT is quite right to broadcast his distress at the possibility of `Yes'.

    Scots were, I believe, never conquered---neither by the Romans nor by the English. And generally they punch above their weight---sometimes literally as at the Glasgow airport. Think more generally of their innumerable practical inventions (Watt, Napier and many others), of their contributions to science and mathematics (Maxwell, Higgs for example), and their food, such as haggis and the deep fried Mars Bar (Anon).

    Just saying: I reckon we should cast aside our reserve and make it clear to the Scots that they are family and should continue to be so.

    Mr Toms, Mr Dancer.

    The name Scotland comes from the term used to describe certain Irish warriors who conquered at least parts of Scotland in about the 5th century I think.

    Also look up the Kingdom of Dal Riata, as Mr Dancer mentioned the Antonine Wall is in Scotland, and the putting down of some of the Jacobin rebellions were almost de facto re-invasions.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    corporeal said:

    isam said:

    I dunno, I'm quite normal in my circle, whereas SeanT would definitely stand out as an exotic bird. But I think most of us slightly play up our more eccentric sides on the forum for amusement. A slightly risky thing to do if you're standing for election, perhaps. Never mind.

    More on that leaflet you guys are distributing Nick

    Bit much??

    http://www.columnist.org.uk/2014/04/17/labour-caught-distributing-lie-filled-leaflets-about-ukip/
    That response is fairly UKIP skewed, and UKIP has had its own leaflet issues.
    You read that leaflet and though it was fair game... ok

  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    Mr. Corporeal, my understanding is the Scotti [Latinised name, I think] were a Hibernian tribe.

    Anyway, pleased to have been fairly accurate regarding such recent events.
  • I'm definitely in the Midlands Alliance League when it comes to name dropping. I played this game last night in the pub. My mate was doing some computer stuff for The Gorillas and walked into his own office to find Damon Albarn sitting in his chair, with his feet on my mates desk, moaning about everything. I countered that I'd been trolled by an international thriller writer on a blog. They were guessing it was Tom Clancy, or Dan Brown. I told them Tom Knox. Never heard of him. Though to be fair, a couple of guys did like to read SeanT in the Telegraph, so I clawed back a bit of kudos there.
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    isam said:

    corporeal said:

    isam said:

    I dunno, I'm quite normal in my circle, whereas SeanT would definitely stand out as an exotic bird. But I think most of us slightly play up our more eccentric sides on the forum for amusement. A slightly risky thing to do if you're standing for election, perhaps. Never mind.

    More on that leaflet you guys are distributing Nick

    Bit much??

    http://www.columnist.org.uk/2014/04/17/labour-caught-distributing-lie-filled-leaflets-about-ukip/
    That response is fairly UKIP skewed, and UKIP has had its own leaflet issues.
    You read that leaflet and though it was fair game... ok

    No Mr Isam I didn't (at least assuming the response is factual, I'm not up on UKIP's aircraft carrier policy). But I think claiming 3 as a lie, as he does is rather dubious tbh.
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    AveryLP said:

    Bumped into Lulu and Yoko Ono coming out of the lifts in John Lewis Oxford St once.....both quite short....

    Carlotta

    Did they get out at the first floor and then take the escalators up to the top floor?


    I served Lulu in Harrods at Xmas in about 1969/70. She is very short and was v freckly. I had I had no idea I had served her until someone told me after she had left the store.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,564
    We've had quite a few MPs here on a one-off basis, but the ones I knew felt it was a bit high-risk to do regularly. IIRC Stewart got the tone wrong by just rebroadcasting Tory attack lines, and ran into a hail of tim derision with nobody particularly rushing to defend him.

    By the way, I'm stumped on an insurance translation with this medical treatment: "medizinische Umschläge". Anyone got any idea what the English might be? I assume it's one of those alternative thingies where you get wrapped in a damp blanket, but what do we call them?
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    It certainly did you no harm given your 2010 result Nick (I mean that in the good pbc, clever, we know about swing kind of way not the nasty way)
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    isam said:

    corporeal said:

    isam said:

    I dunno, I'm quite normal in my circle, whereas SeanT would definitely stand out as an exotic bird. But I think most of us slightly play up our more eccentric sides on the forum for amusement. A slightly risky thing to do if you're standing for election, perhaps. Never mind.

    More on that leaflet you guys are distributing Nick

    Bit much??

    http://www.columnist.org.uk/2014/04/17/labour-caught-distributing-lie-filled-leaflets-about-ukip/
    That response is fairly UKIP skewed, and UKIP has had its own leaflet issues.
    You read that leaflet and though it was fair game... ok

    Labour, the party of Woolas, up to their old tricks. How dare they accuse anyone of racism or using people ?

  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    Mr. Palmer, not sure if it'll help, but here's Wiktionary's (singular) entry:
    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Umschlag#German

    I can appreciate why an MP or prospective MP might not want to post here under their own name. That's one of the things I dislike most about the media's political coverage. They complain about bland politicians who only parrot party lines, but the media's only interested in reporting genuine differences of opinion as splits, rebellions and challenges to authority. They're too busy scalp-hunting.
  • NextNext Posts: 826

    We've had quite a few MPs here on a one-off basis, but the ones I knew felt it was a bit high-risk to do regularly. IIRC Stewart got the tone wrong by just rebroadcasting Tory attack lines, and ran into a hail of tim derision with nobody particularly rushing to defend him.

    By the way, I'm stumped on an insurance translation with this medical treatment: "medizinische Umschläge". Anyone got any idea what the English might be? I assume it's one of those alternative thingies where you get wrapped in a damp blanket, but what do we call them?

    "medizinische Umschläge" = "medical envelopes" according to Google translate.

    I guess that's why we still have human translators.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578

    Mr. Palmer, not sure if it'll help, but here's Wiktionary's (singular) entry:
    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Umschlag#German

    I can appreciate why an MP or prospective MP might not want to post here under their own name. That's one of the things I dislike most about the media's political coverage. They complain about bland politicians who only parrot party lines, but the media's only interested in reporting genuine differences of opinion as splits, rebellions and challenges to authority. They're too busy scalp-hunting.

    Hear hear.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,564
    Ah, a compress. Thank you Morris. (And JBriskin too!)
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    Bitte sehr.
  • TomsToms Posts: 2,478
    Messrs. Dancer and Corporeal,
    Thank you for the historical information. What one can say, I guess, is that Scots are pretty tough. What really counts is their cultural contribution to the mix (mixed nuts?)
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    edited April 2014
    Sun Politics ‏@Sun_Politics · 49 secs
    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead now just two points, plus highest rating for UKIP since last Nov: CON 33%, LAB 35%, LD 11%, UKIP 15%

    ukip taking votes from labour - 'chortle'

  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,564
    MP scalps - saving grace is that voters don't really care unless it's something really disreputable. I was the sole feature on the Mail on Sunday cover once as a HYPOCRITE. Only two or three people mentioned it and it was never mentioned again.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578
    edited April 2014

    Sun Politics ‏@Sun_Politics · 49 secs
    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead now just two points, plus highest rating for UKIP since last Nov: CON 33%, LAB 35%, LD 11%, UKIP 15%

    ukip taking votes from labour - 'chortle'

    Only after the damage has already been done to the other lot. Until Labour actually fall behind though, if it ever happens, they'll sleep soundly.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,709

    but the media's only interested in reporting genuine differences of opinion as splits, rebellions and challenges to authority. They're too busy scalp-hunting.

    Yes. I recall that RAF chap who contested (and never won) the Sutton and Cheam seat getting his name emblazoned across the Evening Standard after, on these threads, slagging off Ted Heath.
  • FluffyThoughtsFluffyThoughts Posts: 2,420

    Or, indeed, Mr Derek Dick, aka Fish. Although I think the rest of the band was from Aylesbury.

    Marillion lost it when Del-Dick left to make "State of Mind": They turned plastic-Oirish after that. [Waterboys redue...?]

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578

    but the media's only interested in reporting genuine differences of opinion as splits, rebellions and challenges to authority. They're too busy scalp-hunting.

    Yes. I recall that RAF chap who contested (and never won) the Sutton and Cheam seat getting his name emblazoned across the Evening Standard after, on these threads, slagging off Ted Heath.
    So what you're saying is that most people on here would not have much chance of one day finding themselves a member of the Commons? Darn it.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited April 2014
    corporeal said:

    isam said:

    corporeal said:

    isam said:

    I dunno, I'm quite normal in my circle, whereas SeanT would definitely stand out as an exotic bird. But I think most of us slightly play up our more eccentric sides on the forum for amusement. A slightly risky thing to do if you're standing for election, perhaps. Never mind.

    More on that leaflet you guys are distributing Nick

    Bit much??

    http://www.columnist.org.uk/2014/04/17/labour-caught-distributing-lie-filled-leaflets-about-ukip/
    That response is fairly UKIP skewed, and UKIP has had its own leaflet issues.
    You read that leaflet and though it was fair game... ok

    No Mr Isam I didn't (at least assuming the response is factual, I'm not up on UKIP's aircraft carrier policy). But I think claiming 3 as a lie, as he does is rather dubious tbh.
    Ah right

    I just asked if the leaflet was a bit much. I didn't write the response to it.

    The response isn't the issue really, as that is just what someone else thought of the leaflet.

    @NickPalmer silent on the issue... have you been handing them out yet Nick?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    Sun Politics ‏@Sun_Politics · 49 secs
    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead now just two points, plus highest rating for UKIP since last Nov: CON 33%, LAB 35%, LD 11%, UKIP 15%

    ukip taking votes from labour - 'chortle'

    More Times front pages please!
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    isam said:

    Sun Politics ‏@Sun_Politics · 49 secs
    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead now just two points, plus highest rating for UKIP since last Nov: CON 33%, LAB 35%, LD 11%, UKIP 15%

    ukip taking votes from labour - 'chortle'

    More Times front pages please!

    More leafleting by labour on UKIP ;-)
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    kle4 said:

    but the media's only interested in reporting genuine differences of opinion as splits, rebellions and challenges to authority. They're too busy scalp-hunting.

    Yes. I recall that RAF chap who contested (and never won) the Sutton and Cheam seat getting his name emblazoned across the Evening Standard after, on these threads, slagging off Ted Heath.
    So what you're saying is that most people on here would not have much chance of one day finding themselves a member of the Commons? Darn it.
    I would run as a UKIP councillor but they already have plenty of members with a colourful past, they don't need me as well.
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    edited April 2014
    ...
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Sun Politics ‏@Sun_Politics · 2 mins
    Slime Minister: David Cameron stung by jellyfish on his hols in Lanzarote: http://bit.ly/1nsVgNT

    Where's tim ;-)
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,989
    Evening all :)

    Brushes with pop stars - the best I can manage is talking to Phil Manzanera when he came to Dulwich College (yes, that's where I went, three years in front of Nigel Farage, who I don't remember at all and if Avery's about, not "College" - Nigel is, as I am, an "Old Alleynian")

    Anyway, Phil M was a boarder in the 1960s (about a decade before me) and he came back to the College one lunchtime to talk about Roxy and play some of his brilliant guitar. I was already a big Roxy fan then but Phil was more interested in "Diamond Head" (this was 1974 or 75) and in talking about his Dulwich band which had a strange name like "Pooh and the Ostriches" as I recall. Really nice guy and one of the guitar greats.
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    edited April 2014
    SeanT said:

    saddened said:

    SeanT said:

    isam said:

    Boris Johnson 'an epic Europhile' claims Louise Mensch

    The former Conservative MP says "there is no chance at all" the Mayor of London could lead the Tories given his "raging" Europhilia

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10772851/Boris-Johnson-an-epic-Europhile-claims-Louise-Mensch.html

    Mensch keeps banging this drum on Twitter. I suspect it is an attempt to curry favour with Bojo's rivals for the leadership - e.g. Osborne.
    Other than being more physically attractive than the majority of MP's what has Mensch done to qualify for the amount of press instead?
    She's quite a decent polemical writer: her column for the Sun is often interesting. And she takes brave positions. And she is terrier-like on Twitter, hunting down the hypocrisies of the Left.

    In general I think she is a Good Thing, even if she is slightly nuts, and prone to hypocrisy herself.
    She doesn't take brave positions. She writes pro-Cameron positions for the Murdoch press after she backed pro-Murdoch positions for the Cameron ministry.

    She's the absolutely worst case of the media-political complex and the revolving door corrupting our public life.
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    Oh look, after we did nothing to Putin's annexation of Crimea, he is now talking aggressively about his rights to eastern Ukraine:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/18/world/europe/russia-ukraine.html?_r=0

    And then when we do nothing in response to him taking eastern Ukraine, he'll take the whole country. And then when he's re-established the whole country as a new puppet state, smothering the democratic freedoms of tens of millions, we'll do nothing. Then he'll start talking about the Baltic states and we'll realise we need to take a major response.

    Smart politicans would just take the major response to begin with, as we'll have to ultimately doing it anyway, but without losing Ukraine first.

    But then we don't have smart politicians, we have PR-obsessed muppets.
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    Does anyone have a link to Euro VI polls for the 2004 election?
  • Evening all. I have lurked on this site for a few years now and am in awe of the wit, intelligence and entertainment that you regular guys post.

    I have finally been tempted to comment on, no not the IndyRef, Euro's or GE 2015 but of course the music debate. Having seen the Eagles, Rolling Stones, Rush (I got the drumstick launched into the crowd), Hendrix, Cliff Richard (my ex wife's idea believe me!), Clapton, Queen, Elton John and a few others (Frank Sinatra once told me "Cocker, don't drop names") I have to say :

    1) Rolling Stones
    2) Indyref = No
    3) Euros = UKIP
    4) 2015 GE = Labour

    Apart from number 1 the others are not necessarily what I want (although they may be). I just wish I knew how to understand the odds with the various betting sites that you guys do.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    High Politics Socrates - hope you've got a degree and don't know any soldiers.
  • All this talk of Scottish bands and no one's mentioned the Trashcan Sinatras?
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    edited April 2014
    In other words, you simple don't agree with her views.
    Socrates said:

    SeanT said:

    saddened said:

    SeanT said:

    isam said:

    Boris Johnson 'an epic Europhile' claims Louise Mensch

    The former Conservative MP says "there is no chance at all" the Mayor of London could lead the Tories given his "raging" Europhilia

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10772851/Boris-Johnson-an-epic-Europhile-claims-Louise-Mensch.html

    Mensch keeps banging this drum on Twitter. I suspect it is an attempt to curry favour with Bojo's rivals for the leadership - e.g. Osborne.
    Other than being more physically attractive than the majority of MP's what has Mensch done to qualify for the amount of press instead?
    She's quite a decent polemical writer: her column for the Sun is often interesting. And she takes brave positions. And she is terrier-like on Twitter, hunting down the hypocrisies of the Left.

    In general I think she is a Good Thing, even if she is slightly nuts, and prone to hypocrisy herself.
    She doesn't take brave positions. She writes pro-Cameron positions for the Murdoch press after she backed pro-Murdoch positions for the Cameron ministry.

    She's the absolutely worst case of the media-political complex and the revolving door corrupting our public life.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Great first post cocker!! :)
  • Sun Politics ‏@Sun_Politics · 2 mins
    David Cameron stung by jellyfish on his hols in Lanzarote: http://bit.ly/1nsVgNT

    Where's tim ;-)


    That would never have happened at the fish counter in Morrisons.

  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Patrick Wintour ‏@patrickwintour · 2 mins
    David Axelrod, Obama's chief strategist in 2008 and 2012 Presidential campaigns, has been hired by Miliband to advise Labour

    Christ no,hope we don't get a British version of 'yes we can'
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