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  • TazTaz Posts: 24,235
    Dopermean said:

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    Cookie said:

    Can we lay off the pile on on Sandpit please?
    1) He's been on the site for fucking ages; I find it vanishingly unlikely he's being paid to make pro-Trump noises.
    2) I've rarely heard him make pro-Trump noises. Not thinking Trump = Hitler does not equal pro-Trump.
    3) As it happens, I do think Trump roughly equals Hitler. But I am very interested in the views of a seemingly intelligent poster who does not hold that view. Why wouldn't you be?

    It's ridiculous to fall into the trap of 'poster x does not hate politician y as much as I do - therefore poster x loves politician y.' We saw this with Boris too.

    It seems fair to defend Trump [and the administration] on some levels - many things are arguable. TDS is still a thing.

    But justifying the shooting of someone in the street who is protesting peacefully would seem a different matter.
    The phrase TDS is often trotted out by trump apologists who don't want to see the whole picture.
    I certainly wouldn't apologise for him but what I would take it to mean is not taking each specific action on its own merits.

    He might accidentally do something right. Increasingly long odds on that, perhaps.


    DS applies to all politicians, including Starmer, who also manages to blunder into doing the right thing sometimes, having announced the wrong thing first.
    We were assured he was going to invade Greenland a couple of days ago. That he was a deranged dementia patient who had lost the capacity to reason, and therefore he'd as happily soak Greenland in European blood as eat his morning cornflakes.

    Except it has now all been wrapped up diplomatically, he seems to have got everything he asked for, and he now says force was never on the agenda. Yet no embarrassed climb down from our resident Trump experts, just on to the next civilisation-ending outrage and hope nobody will notice.
    No one thought he’d actually invade Greenland. And he didn’t get what he wanted . I see you omitted his trashing of NATO troops who died supporting the USA . He’s now given immunity to ICE to execute anyone they see fit and you’re still trying to sanewash his actions . He might not be mad but he is true evil .
    Lucky is just telling us who he is.
    Yet he’s not wrong to point out the resident Trump experts cocked up there and just pivoted onto the next issue to rant about.
    You know Trump's playbook is to change so many things so rapidly you don't have a chance to correct one of them before another 5 things need to be corrected..
    No, you should have mentioned it before.
    Trump will be threatening Greenland again in due course, he's just backed off for a bit.
    Your accusations of TDS are gaslighting, a year ago people were saying a he'd deport a lot of wrong people and that tariffs would be bad for international trade, they weren't saying that he'd deploy 2500 masked ICE agents to a city to drive in circles around residential blocks and schools abducting anyone non-white and murdering peaceful protesters or that the EU and sane NATO countries would be in a emergency diplomatic huddle to protect Greenland from annexation.
    It'd be more fun to be discussing Burnham and why the idiot is distracting from the blue on blue psychodrama.
    There’s nothing stopping people,discussing Burnham apart from the obvious. They are Trump obsessives.

    I said at the time of the US elections tariffs were bad and I’d prefer hapless Harris over Trump. In spite of her ridiculous wealth tax policy.

    Until there is a judicial outcome the killings are just killings. Not murder, execution, manslaughter, self defence. Just killings.

    But this is PB, if you’re not indulging in your daily five minute Trump hate then you’re clearly a fan.
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