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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,085
    Leon said:

    I can’t stand American football but this is an incredible stadium. Almost brand new. Sofi in Hollywood Park

    It’s frigging enormous. Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics

    I went to the stadium at Ann Arbur that was an experience.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 20,539
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    Let’s go!!



    Was there a flypast?
    Dunno. I was too distracted by the price of a pint
    Odd, I thought you didn’t pay for your food and drink when working?
    “Incidentals”, I generally pay for. That basically means random booze. Also hookers

    That’s why I was so chuffed when my beautiful hotel in Sardinia covered my enormous booze bill, as well. That’s not so common

    If I’m sent to a restaurant - as I am tonight - then it will all be free


    They don’t pay for your hookers? Barbarians.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 20,539

    Leon said:

    I can’t stand American football but this is an incredible stadium. Almost brand new. Sofi in Hollywood Park

    It’s frigging enormous. Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics

    I went to the stadium at Ann Arbur that was an experience.
    70,000 up to 100,000 depending on the event is decent.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 16,401

    The Green Party wants to abolish me :disappointed:

    The Green Party has just voted to make "Abolish Landlords" Party policy. Some concerns around the proactive name but passed almost unanimously

    https://x.com/isaac_kh/status/1974818309645185217

    So these are their proposals.

    Here follows the Green Party’s Six Step Plan to Abolish Landlords;


    Introduce Rent Controls and Abolish Right to Buy. (HO401, HO503)

    Abolish Section 21 Evictions and make all rental agreements secure long-term tenancies that can only be terminated by the tenant. (HO519)

    Tax the Landlords - move towards a Land Value Tax levied on Owners, not Tenants. No Exceptions. Business Rates on AirBnBs/Short Lets. No Exceptions. Double taxation for empty properties. Put National Insurance on Private Rents. (HO401, EC780-2)

    Remove finance for Landlords - end Buy to Let mortgages. (HO521)

    Provide government backed finance to tenants. Give tenants First Right to Buy when Landlords sell, with their total rent paid discounted.

    Provide finance to Councils. Councils should be given Second Right to Buy when Landlords sell, or property that hasn’t been insulated to EPC rating C or fails to meet the decent homes standard, or any property that is left empty for more than six months, with the total current tenancy discounted, tenants moved to a truly affordable Council tenancy. Government must change prudential borrowing requirements to allow Councils to buy back and build new housing on a massive scale. (2024 Manifesto Pg9).


    https://www.greencoordinate.co.uk/motions/abolish-landlords/
    They want to abolish right to buy and introduce right to buy.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,194
    edited 8:27PM
    TOPPING said:

    Bloody hell £100 for a mouse. Surely it can't be that good. Or how can I signal to people that I am the kind of guy that rolls with a Logitech MX Master 4 Mouse. If I'm spending £100 on it I must somehow co-opt this fact it in support of my status.

    MX Master mice are the absolute best for productivity and if you use a mouse for stupid number of hours per week. Nothing comes close. But you don't need the v4, the v2 or v3 are still way ahead of everything else and can regularly be bought for £30-50 on Amazon.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,659
    ydoethur said:

    The Green Party wants to abolish me :disappointed:

    The Green Party has just voted to make "Abolish Landlords" Party policy. Some concerns around the proactive name but passed almost unanimously

    https://x.com/isaac_kh/status/1974818309645185217

    So these are their proposals.

    Here follows the Green Party’s Six Step Plan to Abolish Landlords;


    Introduce Rent Controls and Abolish Right to Buy. (HO401, HO503)

    Abolish Section 21 Evictions and make all rental agreements secure long-term tenancies that can only be terminated by the tenant. (HO519)

    Tax the Landlords - move towards a Land Value Tax levied on Owners, not Tenants. No Exceptions. Business Rates on AirBnBs/Short Lets. No Exceptions. Double taxation for empty properties. Put National Insurance on Private Rents. (HO401, EC780-2)

    Remove finance for Landlords - end Buy to Let mortgages. (HO521)

    Provide government backed finance to tenants. Give tenants First Right to Buy when Landlords sell, with their total rent paid discounted.

    Provide finance to Councils. Councils should be given Second Right to Buy when Landlords sell, or property that hasn’t been insulated to EPC rating C or fails to meet the decent homes standard, or any property that is left empty for more than six months, with the total current tenancy discounted, tenants moved to a truly affordable Council tenancy. Government must change prudential borrowing requirements to allow Councils to buy back and build new housing on a massive scale. (2024 Manifesto Pg9).


    https://www.greencoordinate.co.uk/motions/abolish-landlords/
    'buy back' housing? Is that that lunatic proposal of Lloyd Russell Moyle that councils should buy back all ex-council housing for the price they sold it rearing its head again?
    The Green Party is a bag of tits.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 16,401

    TOPPING said:

    Bloody hell £100 for a mouse. Surely it can't be that good. Or how can I signal to people that I am the kind of guy that rolls with a Logitech MX Master 4 Mouse. If I'm spending £100 on it I must somehow co-opt this fact it in support of my status.

    MX Master mice are the absolute best for productivity and if you use a mouse for stupid number of hours per week. Nothing comes close. But you don't need the v4, the v2 or v3 are still way ahead of everything else and can regularly be bought for £30-50 on Amazon.
    I have a penguin: https://www.backcs.co.uk/penguin-mouse-v2/?srsltid=AfmBOoofH8stkoIZb0DvPp-Dh0E4sLfSpZ_N6OQMIUdFuoUBdlPYhFzs

    Good for those prone to repetitive strain injuries or carpal tunnel syndrome.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,291

    Leon said:

    I can’t stand American football but this is an incredible stadium. Almost brand new. Sofi in Hollywood Park

    It’s frigging enormous. Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics

    I went to the stadium at Ann Arbur that was an experience.
    "Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics"

    It's going to be a nightmare next summer. The Trump Games...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,194
    Leon said:

    I can’t stand American football but this is an incredible stadium. Almost brand new. Sofi in Hollywood Park

    It’s frigging enormous. Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics

    Isn't that an auto ban hammer? Anybody who disagrees that Red Zone isn't the best sports show on tv needs a trip to Tory Home.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,095
    Sean_F said:

    ydoethur said:

    The Green Party wants to abolish me :disappointed:

    The Green Party has just voted to make "Abolish Landlords" Party policy. Some concerns around the proactive name but passed almost unanimously

    https://x.com/isaac_kh/status/1974818309645185217

    So these are their proposals.

    Here follows the Green Party’s Six Step Plan to Abolish Landlords;


    Introduce Rent Controls and Abolish Right to Buy. (HO401, HO503)

    Abolish Section 21 Evictions and make all rental agreements secure long-term tenancies that can only be terminated by the tenant. (HO519)

    Tax the Landlords - move towards a Land Value Tax levied on Owners, not Tenants. No Exceptions. Business Rates on AirBnBs/Short Lets. No Exceptions. Double taxation for empty properties. Put National Insurance on Private Rents. (HO401, EC780-2)

    Remove finance for Landlords - end Buy to Let mortgages. (HO521)

    Provide government backed finance to tenants. Give tenants First Right to Buy when Landlords sell, with their total rent paid discounted.

    Provide finance to Councils. Councils should be given Second Right to Buy when Landlords sell, or property that hasn’t been insulated to EPC rating C or fails to meet the decent homes standard, or any property that is left empty for more than six months, with the total current tenancy discounted, tenants moved to a truly affordable Council tenancy. Government must change prudential borrowing requirements to allow Councils to buy back and build new housing on a massive scale. (2024 Manifesto Pg9).


    https://www.greencoordinate.co.uk/motions/abolish-landlords/
    'buy back' housing? Is that that lunatic proposal of Lloyd Russell Moyle that councils should buy back all ex-council housing for the price they sold it rearing its head again?
    The Green Party is a bag of tits.
    And if you ask nicely, they will hypnotise you into thinking they are bigger.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,194
    edited 8:31PM

    TOPPING said:

    Bloody hell £100 for a mouse. Surely it can't be that good. Or how can I signal to people that I am the kind of guy that rolls with a Logitech MX Master 4 Mouse. If I'm spending £100 on it I must somehow co-opt this fact it in support of my status.

    MX Master mice are the absolute best for productivity and if you use a mouse for stupid number of hours per week. Nothing comes close. But you don't need the v4, the v2 or v3 are still way ahead of everything else and can regularly be bought for £30-50 on Amazon.
    I have a penguin: https://www.backcs.co.uk/penguin-mouse-v2/?srsltid=AfmBOoofH8stkoIZb0DvPp-Dh0E4sLfSpZ_N6OQMIUdFuoUBdlPYhFzs

    Good for those prone to repetitive strain injuries or carpal tunnel syndrome.
    I have spent a billion hours on computers, since the year dot I had one, never had any RSI etc issues, but always used a "proper" mouse. No £9.99 nonsense.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,817
    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,291

    Carnyx said:

    The Green Party wants to abolish me :disappointed:

    The Green Party has just voted to make "Abolish Landlords" Party policy. Some concerns around the proactive name but passed almost unanimously

    https://x.com/isaac_kh/status/1974818309645185217

    So these are their proposals.

    Here follows the Green Party’s Six Step Plan to Abolish Landlords;


    Introduce Rent Controls and Abolish Right to Buy. (HO401, HO503)

    Abolish Section 21 Evictions and make all rental agreements secure long-term tenancies that can only be terminated by the tenant. (HO519)

    Tax the Landlords - move towards a Land Value Tax levied on Owners, not Tenants. No Exceptions. Business Rates on AirBnBs/Short Lets. No Exceptions. Double taxation for empty properties. Put National Insurance on Private Rents. (HO401, EC780-2)

    Remove finance for Landlords - end Buy to Let mortgages. (HO521)

    Provide government backed finance to tenants. Give tenants First Right to Buy when Landlords sell, with their total rent paid discounted.

    Provide finance to Councils. Councils should be given Second Right to Buy when Landlords sell, or property that hasn’t been insulated to EPC rating C or fails to meet the decent homes standard, or any property that is left empty for more than six months, with the total current tenancy discounted, tenants moved to a truly affordable Council tenancy. Government must change prudential borrowing requirements to allow Councils to buy back and build new housing on a massive scale. (2024 Manifesto Pg9).


    https://www.greencoordinate.co.uk/motions/abolish-landlords/
    That must be worth a few votes in London.
    Extending right to buy to the private sector. Very Thatcherite.
    "total rent paid discounted."

    So if you are a landlord and you rent the house to a family who don't move for years and years - say 20 - as they are bringing up kids and they are in local school etc etc and then finally you decide to sell then if they decide under 'first right to buy' to buy the house, you lose all the money you have been paid in rent for the last twenty years as a discount, knocking maybe £190K off the value of the house?

    So you own an asset and make nothing for twenty years?

    Eh?

    It should be made very clear that this policy was voted through at lunchtime on final day of conference when half the delegates are already at the train station but even so...

    If I have read the proposals correctly, I cannot evict people even if they've not paid their rent for years.
    Serves you right for being a total capitalist bastard.

    Basically, Rick has written down how he would like his relationship with Chertsey Bolawski to be in an ideal world.

    "Right kids!"

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,291
    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Now you know why these idiots elected Trump.

  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,636




    Leon said:

    I can’t stand American football but this is an incredible stadium. Almost brand new. Sofi in Hollywood Park

    It’s frigging enormous. Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics

    I went to the stadium at Ann Arbur that was an experience.
    "Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics"

    It's going to be a nightmare next summer. The Trump Games...
    2028 Shirley?
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 6,785

    Leon said:

    I can’t stand American football but this is an incredible stadium. Almost brand new. Sofi in Hollywood Park

    It’s frigging enormous. Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics

    Isn't that an auto ban hammer? Anybody who disagrees that Red Zone isn't the best sports show on tv needs a trip to Tory Home.
    I would sooner be exiled to Con Home than watch American Football, and I’m not a Tory.
  • pm215pm215 Posts: 1,328

    TOPPING said:

    Bloody hell £100 for a mouse. Surely it can't be that good. Or how can I signal to people that I am the kind of guy that rolls with a Logitech MX Master 4 Mouse. If I'm spending £100 on it I must somehow co-opt this fact it in support of my status.

    MX Master mice are the absolute best for productivity and if you use a mouse for stupid number of hours per week. Nothing comes close. But you don't need the v4, the v2 or v3 are still way ahead of everything else and can regularly be bought for £30-50 on Amazon.
    I have a penguin: https://www.backcs.co.uk/penguin-mouse-v2/?srsltid=AfmBOoofH8stkoIZb0DvPp-Dh0E4sLfSpZ_N6OQMIUdFuoUBdlPYhFzs

    Good for those prone to repetitive strain injuries or carpal tunnel syndrome.
    For me the Kensington Expert Mouse (despite the name, actually a trackball with a very large ball) works to help keep my RSI at bay. I can move the mouse pointer around with fingertip movements rather than having a death grip on a traditional mouse. It's also the best part of a hundred quid, but on the other hand it's lasted me over a decade so considered as an annual cost it's pretty low...
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,291
    edited 8:36PM




    Leon said:

    I can’t stand American football but this is an incredible stadium. Almost brand new. Sofi in Hollywood Park

    It’s frigging enormous. Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics

    I went to the stadium at Ann Arbur that was an experience.
    "Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics"

    It's going to be a nightmare next summer. The Trump Games...
    2028 Shirley?
    Indeed. I was mixing it with World Cup. Another Trump fest.

    He'll probably insist on the records recording that he actually scored the winning goal in the final.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 16,401




    Leon said:

    I can’t stand American football but this is an incredible stadium. Almost brand new. Sofi in Hollywood Park

    It’s frigging enormous. Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics

    I went to the stadium at Ann Arbur that was an experience.
    "Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics"

    It's going to be a nightmare next summer. The Trump Games...
    2028 Shirley?
    Indeed. 2026 there are Winter Olympics in Italy. 2028 is Summer Olympics in LA.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,395
    Evening all :)

    I suspect Badenoch has done enough in the past 24 hours to keep the Conservative leadership for now. The ECHR position isn't for me and the ludicrous diktat every PPC for the Party must publicly commit to it reminds me of how various candidates undermined John Major in 1997.

    I'm also of the view if it had been a policy worth doing, why wasn't it doen under Johnson, Truss or Sunak? Why has it taken the worst defeat in their history for the Conservatives to "see the light" on the ECHR or is it something else?

    It's to be hoped she moves off trying to make the Conservative Party the moderate wing of Reform. As others have opined, it'll be interesting to see what Stride says about economic policy.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,636
    Carnyx said:

    Bloody laptop now updated to Win 11 at last after two failed downloads. Taken much of the afternoon and evening. Now I can depart. Night all.

    Get a Macbook :wink:
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 26,107
    edited 8:40PM
    kjh said:

    kjh said:

    kjh said:

    kjh said:

    On topic

    I await her details on this subject which apparently follows a review by David Wolfson who is a barrister

    What has become increasingly obvious the powers of the ECHR are seen as a problem, and not just with Farage declaration to leave, and now Badenoch's, but also Starmer is wanting changes

    Some on the right have picked the ECHR as a bogeyman. They want to rekindle the Brexit debate and so have picked on something else with European in its name. The actual day-to-day impact of the ECHR on our lives is not great.

    The ECHR is not responsible for unaffordable housing, for insecure employment, for all-powerful tech companies creating monopolies. The ECHR is not responsible for cancer or dementia or long COVID. The ECHR does not cause rape or assaults or mobile phone theft. The ECHR is not why it's difficult to see a GP or book a driving test.

    Badenoch's announcement is clickbait as politics, not a serious attempt to make our lives better.
    Your second paragraph is not the reason why leaving or amending the ECHR is such a hot topic

    It relates entirely to our ability to stop the boats and illegal migration and it is clear even Starmer recognisies it and is reviewing parts of it

    The status quo on the ECHR is not sustainable

    Can you explain the mechanics of why we should join Russia and Belarus in a human rights hinterland?
    To make sure Canada and Australia can outvote them?
    Since when had Canada and Australia been in Europe. It isn't the Eurovision Song Contest.
    What relevance is being in Europe?

    We are humans.
    Australians are humans.
    Canadians are humans.

    We should all have the same fundamental human rights. Or whatever our respective Parliaments democratically vote for.

    Geography does bit change our humanity.

    We could choose to be part of a European nation, in which case it might be relevant, but we are not.
    I agree completely. You misunderstood my post. Someone argued in defence of leaving the ECHR that Australia and Canada weren't in it. Of course they aren't in it. It is a European organisation. It was a nonsense argument.

    For goodness sake I'm not arguing elsewhere doesn't have human rights just that Australia isn't in Europe so naturally wouldn't be in the European organisation as someone tried to use as a nonsense justification.
    Its not a nonsense argument, we are a democracy just like Australia and Canada.

    So what if it is a European organisation? We have no obligation or duty to be in every European organisation. We aren't in the EU.

    We can choose whether to be in an organisation or not. If it doesn't suit us, we can choose not to be in it. If we aren't in the ECHR then we will be in the same company as Australia and Canada as a western democracy with our own courts as ultimate courts, not in the same company as Belarus and Russia who aren't democracies.
    I agree. I agree. I agree. We don't have to be in the European one. I never said we did.

    You are completely missing the point that goes back umpteen posts ago and was simply a logic point.

    I will try again (although I feel like banging my head against the wall):

    a) Someone said something about Russia/Belarus not being in the ECHR (it doesn't matter what the details are)

    b) Someone else said in response that neither are Canada or Australia as some counter argument (to whatever it was)

    My point was (and it is my only point and nothing else) Canada and Australia CAN'T be members of the ECHR as it is a European only organisation and therefore this argument is logically flawed

    That's it. Nothing else. Nothing about the pros and cons, nothing about human rights elsewhere, nothing about us being in it or not. Nothing about anything else at all. Just the logical flaw in saying 'neither are Canada or Australia in the ECHR'

    Sigh.
    You were right all along @kjh Canada and Australia are in on the continent of Europe what Russia and Belarus (for the most part are).

    That doesn't fit the narrative of the poster who has been banging on about human rights in Canada and Australia all day.

    Although Australia are in Eurovision, which might be the root of his confusion.
    What continent we or they are on is irrelevant.
    God!

    Yes it is, but not when some twit a thousand posts ago tried to put Australia and Canada in Europe. Have you read the original post. That is all we are saying. Australia and Canada are not in the ECHR for probably a few reasons, but the overwhelming one is THEY ARE NOT IN EUROPE.

    Someone tried to argue otherwise.

    There is no more to it than this.
    Nobody tried to put Australia and Canada in Europe, stop being a nitwit.

    Nobody "ever tried to argue otherwise", that's a figment of your own fevered imagination.

    The original post was saying "Can you explain the mechanics of why we should join Russia and Belarus in a human rights hinterland" to which it was responded, by multiple people, pointing out that Australia and Canada are democratic nations not in the ECHR.

    Nobody claimed they're in Europe. Indeed when I responded, after as it happens others had, I specifically said "Can you explain why without reference to geography we should not have our own domestic court being the highest court rather than an international one, like in Australia, Canada and New Zealand."

    Geography was explicitly excluded as immaterial, nobody claimed they're in Europe. And it was Mexicanpete who began this, not anyone else, by pretending authoritarian dictatorships Belarus and Russia are the only comparable countries as opposed to Australia and Canada who are, like we would be, democratic free countries.

    Nobody ever tried to argue Australia or Canada are in Europe. Many did argue that geography is not relevant.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,759
    .

    Leon said:

    I can’t stand American football but this is an incredible stadium. Almost brand new. Sofi in Hollywood Park

    It’s frigging enormous. Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics

    Isn't that an auto ban hammer? Anybody who disagrees that Red Zone isn't the best sports show on tv needs a trip to Tory Home.
    One is allowed conscientious objector status, owing to the prevalence of CTE.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,759
    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Think of it more as a violent form of chess.
    An awful lot goes down in those few seconds.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,636




    Leon said:

    I can’t stand American football but this is an incredible stadium. Almost brand new. Sofi in Hollywood Park

    It’s frigging enormous. Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics

    I went to the stadium at Ann Arbur that was an experience.
    "Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics"

    It's going to be a nightmare next summer. The Trump Games...
    2028 Shirley?
    Indeed. I was mixing it with World Cup. Another Trump fest.

    He'll probably insist on the records recording that he actually scored the winning goal in the final.
    I do hope FIFA ask him to open the Soccerball tournament by kickshooting a penaltygoal in the style of Miss Ross.

  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,817
    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Think of it more as a violent form of chess.
    An awful lot goes down in those few seconds.
    Nah. It’s just a crap sport
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,397
    pm215 said:

    TOPPING said:

    Bloody hell £100 for a mouse. Surely it can't be that good. Or how can I signal to people that I am the kind of guy that rolls with a Logitech MX Master 4 Mouse. If I'm spending £100 on it I must somehow co-opt this fact it in support of my status.

    MX Master mice are the absolute best for productivity and if you use a mouse for stupid number of hours per week. Nothing comes close. But you don't need the v4, the v2 or v3 are still way ahead of everything else and can regularly be bought for £30-50 on Amazon.
    I have a penguin: https://www.backcs.co.uk/penguin-mouse-v2/?srsltid=AfmBOoofH8stkoIZb0DvPp-Dh0E4sLfSpZ_N6OQMIUdFuoUBdlPYhFzs

    Good for those prone to repetitive strain injuries or carpal tunnel syndrome.
    For me the Kensington Expert Mouse (despite the name, actually a trackball with a very large ball) works to help keep my RSI at bay. I can move the mouse pointer around with fingertip movements rather than having a death grip on a traditional mouse. It's also the best part of a hundred quid, but on the other hand it's lasted me over a decade so considered as an annual cost it's pretty low...
    Exactly.

    I have been using one for the best part of 30 years. No carpal tunnel
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,817
    Ok I’ve seen ten minutes now. I can leave
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,759
    No doubt this (and a couple of similar cases) will go all the way to the Supreme Court.

    We’re suing Donald Trump.

    His deployment of the California National Guard to Oregon isn’t about crime.

    It’s about power.

    He is using our military as political pawns to build up his own ego.

    It’s appalling. It’s un-American.

    And it must stop.

    https://x.com/GavinNewsom/status/1974892483994939592
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,069
    pm215 said:

    TOPPING said:

    Bloody hell £100 for a mouse. Surely it can't be that good. Or how can I signal to people that I am the kind of guy that rolls with a Logitech MX Master 4 Mouse. If I'm spending £100 on it I must somehow co-opt this fact it in support of my status.

    MX Master mice are the absolute best for productivity and if you use a mouse for stupid number of hours per week. Nothing comes close. But you don't need the v4, the v2 or v3 are still way ahead of everything else and can regularly be bought for £30-50 on Amazon.
    I have a penguin: https://www.backcs.co.uk/penguin-mouse-v2/?srsltid=AfmBOoofH8stkoIZb0DvPp-Dh0E4sLfSpZ_N6OQMIUdFuoUBdlPYhFzs

    Good for those prone to repetitive strain injuries or carpal tunnel syndrome.
    For me the Kensington Expert Mouse (despite the name, actually a trackball with a very large ball) works to help keep my RSI at bay. I can move the mouse pointer around with fingertip movements rather than having a death grip on a traditional mouse. It's also the best part of a hundred quid, but on the other hand it's lasted me over a decade so considered as an annual cost it's pretty low...
    Sort of thing you need to hide in a cupboard before you bring a girl home. Look at it.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,397
    Eabhal said:

    pm215 said:

    TOPPING said:

    Bloody hell £100 for a mouse. Surely it can't be that good. Or how can I signal to people that I am the kind of guy that rolls with a Logitech MX Master 4 Mouse. If I'm spending £100 on it I must somehow co-opt this fact it in support of my status.

    MX Master mice are the absolute best for productivity and if you use a mouse for stupid number of hours per week. Nothing comes close. But you don't need the v4, the v2 or v3 are still way ahead of everything else and can regularly be bought for £30-50 on Amazon.
    I have a penguin: https://www.backcs.co.uk/penguin-mouse-v2/?srsltid=AfmBOoofH8stkoIZb0DvPp-Dh0E4sLfSpZ_N6OQMIUdFuoUBdlPYhFzs

    Good for those prone to repetitive strain injuries or carpal tunnel syndrome.
    For me the Kensington Expert Mouse (despite the name, actually a trackball with a very large ball) works to help keep my RSI at bay. I can move the mouse pointer around with fingertip movements rather than having a death grip on a traditional mouse. It's also the best part of a hundred quid, but on the other hand it's lasted me over a decade so considered as an annual cost it's pretty low...
    Sort of thing you need to hide in a cupboard before you bring a girl home. Look at it.
    It's really cool. You can swap the ball for a 8 ball from a pool table. How awesome is that !
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,044
    Eabhal said:

    pm215 said:

    TOPPING said:

    Bloody hell £100 for a mouse. Surely it can't be that good. Or how can I signal to people that I am the kind of guy that rolls with a Logitech MX Master 4 Mouse. If I'm spending £100 on it I must somehow co-opt this fact it in support of my status.

    MX Master mice are the absolute best for productivity and if you use a mouse for stupid number of hours per week. Nothing comes close. But you don't need the v4, the v2 or v3 are still way ahead of everything else and can regularly be bought for £30-50 on Amazon.
    I have a penguin: https://www.backcs.co.uk/penguin-mouse-v2/?srsltid=AfmBOoofH8stkoIZb0DvPp-Dh0E4sLfSpZ_N6OQMIUdFuoUBdlPYhFzs

    Good for those prone to repetitive strain injuries or carpal tunnel syndrome.
    For me the Kensington Expert Mouse (despite the name, actually a trackball with a very large ball) works to help keep my RSI at bay. I can move the mouse pointer around with fingertip movements rather than having a death grip on a traditional mouse. It's also the best part of a hundred quid, but on the other hand it's lasted me over a decade so considered as an annual cost it's pretty low...
    Sort of thing you need to hide in a cupboard before you bring a girl home. Look at it.
    Does it come with matching ball-gag?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 130,544

    Sean_F said:

    Leon said:

    God I fucking hate America

    No I don’t want to choose my blend, roast, origin, style, size, heat level, terroir, gluten levels and milk fat content of my coffee

    Especially when at the end it tastes like very fucking average coffee

    I miss Naples

    I've been drinking mine with crud in the bottom, Bosnian style. Very nice, poky but better for lingering over than an espresso which you should knock back standing and walk out (or have as a stiffener between rounds of beer). Even learnt to make it.

    Yesterday I was in the Genocide museum in Mostar. Sickening and chilling, really well-chosen exhibits that bring it home. It's not very big, no matter, I couldn't stay any longer.

    One guy had his throat cut by Chetniks in 1943 and thrown off the bridge at Višegrad. They didn't do a very good job,he swum to the bank and survived. Fifty years later they did it again, tied his hands and feet this time.

    Another guy had his wife and 10 kids killed by Chetniks in WW2. He remarried after the war and had 5 more. In 1993 they killed four of them.

    Did this evil really pass us by? Why were we fucking around for several years before doing anything?
    Because, the first few years, the Diplomatic Approach was the de rigueur. Apparently all they needed was stern resolution from Serious Chaps and lots of talking.

    During this period, Thatcher (out of power) argued for arming the non-Serb forces. Lord Turd said, sneerily, that this would just be “Levelling the killing field.”

    When that failed, UN Interventionism was tried. So soldiers from around the world watched at atrocities, while wearing Blue Helmets. And doing nothing.

    Finally the Americans got bored/annoyed by Sebranica . And armed all the anti-Serb forces. By kept them on a tight leash (air power, control of logistics), they were prevented from massacring the Serbs back.

    The American brokered peace deal was fairly simple. “If any of you gets vaguely tempted about a rematch, we will fuck you up real bad.”
    What a wonderful piece of weasel-speak is “levelling the killing field.”

    I went on holiday to Dubrovnik in 2012. The owner of the apartment told us that his daughter was at Zagreb University when the fighting started. She and three other students were driving back to Dubrovnik, when their car was hit by a Serbian shell.
    Indeed.

    Lord Turd is a Turd, as a result of that, forevermore.

    Lord Turd of Sebranica, to give him his full title.


    Rubbish he did an excellent job in the Gulf War and was a reformist Home Secretary. There was no desire to get involved in the Yugoslavian civil war, certainly initially or even in some quarters by 1999 as shown by Alan Clark's comments in the House.

    Had Lord Hurd to speak at university and he was excellent
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,397
    Remember folks, this guy is REALLY SHARP and not a senile moron whose brains are leaking out of his ears on live TV...

    @atrupar.com‬

    Trump: "I said one year before to Pete Hegseth, I said, one year before -- where's Pete? In the book I wrote -- whatever the hell the title, I can't tell you -- but I can tell you there's a page in there devoted to the fact that I saw somebody named Osama bin Laden and I didn't like it."
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,636

    Leon said:

    I can’t stand American football but this is an incredible stadium. Almost brand new. Sofi in Hollywood Park

    It’s frigging enormous. Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics

    I went to the stadium at Ann Arbur that was an experience.
    70,000 up to 100,000 depending on the event is decent.
    Looks like 70,000 for the World cup matches... So, smaller than Old Trafford.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,044
    Leon said:

    Ok I’ve seen ten minutes now. I can leave

    You've already bedded a cheerleader within 10 minutes?
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,287

    Carnyx said:

    Bloody laptop now updated to Win 11 at last after two failed downloads. Taken much of the afternoon and evening. Now I can depart. Night all.

    Get a Macbook :wink:
    MacBooks are extortionate. You can't buy one for less than £1000 - it goes up rapidly from there - and at the price the models are nice, but not that nice. With discounts you can buy decent enough Windows and Chromebook equivalents for literally half the price.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,044
    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    If it was first and goal, they would...
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,636
    FF43 said:

    Carnyx said:

    Bloody laptop now updated to Win 11 at last after two failed downloads. Taken much of the afternoon and evening. Now I can depart. Night all.

    Get a Macbook :wink:
    MacBooks are extortionate. You can't buy one for less than £1000 - it goes up rapidly from there - and at the price the models are nice, but not that nice. With discounts you can buy decent enough Windows and Chromebook equivalents for literally half the price.
    My experience is pay twice as much for a Macbook - and they last four times as long. No hassles upgrading the operating system either.

    Every Windows laptop I ever had turned to sludge after a few years.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,897
    FF43 said:

    Carnyx said:

    Bloody laptop now updated to Win 11 at last after two failed downloads. Taken much of the afternoon and evening. Now I can depart. Night all.

    Get a Macbook :wink:
    MacBooks are extortionate. You can't buy one for less than £1000 - it goes up rapidly from there - and at the price the models are nice, but not that nice. With discounts you can buy decent enough Windows and Chromebook equivalents for literally half the price.
    Used to be possible to buy one for about £800 but that was a number of years ago so I guess inflation makes it around the same.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,759
    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Think of it more as a violent form of chess.
    An awful lot goes down in those few seconds.
    Nah. It’s just a crap sport
    You've made it fairly clear that you don't understand it well enough to form anything more than a superficial judgment.
    But that is not uncharacteristic.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,777
    Martin sacked by Rangers.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,397
    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Think of it more as a violent form of chess.
    An awful lot goes down in those few seconds.
    Nah. It’s just a crap sport
    You've made it fairly clear that you don't understand it well enough to form anything more than a superficial judgment.
    But that is not uncharacteristic.
    Leon knows as much about American sport as he does US licensing laws
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,817
    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Think of it more as a violent form of chess.
    An awful lot goes down in those few seconds.
    Nah. It’s just a crap sport
    You've made it fairly clear that you don't understand it well enough to form anything more than a superficial judgment.
    But that is not uncharacteristic.
    I used to be into it when I was about 19. Because that’s who it’s aimed at. Late teenagers

    It is the marvel comic universe of sports. It’s shit
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,287
    Andy_JS said:

    FF43 said:

    Carnyx said:

    Bloody laptop now updated to Win 11 at last after two failed downloads. Taken much of the afternoon and evening. Now I can depart. Night all.

    Get a Macbook :wink:
    MacBooks are extortionate. You can't buy one for less than £1000 - it goes up rapidly from there - and at the price the models are nice, but not that nice. With discounts you can buy decent enough Windows and Chromebook equivalents for literally half the price.
    Used to be possible to buy one for about £800 but that was a number of years ago so I guess inflation makes it around the same.
    I think what's changed is that you can buy some nice kit for not a lot of money from everyone apart from Apple.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,397
    dixiedean said:

    Martin sacked by Rangers.


    @alexmassie

    Rather unsporting of Rangers to sack Russell Martin before everyone else has had the chance to play against his team.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,397
    Oh

    @financialtimes.com‬

    Reform likely to raise Kent council tax after cost-cutting drive falters on.ft.com/4pTvJ62
  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,395
    dixiedean said:

    Martin sacked by Rangers.

    There may soon be a vacancy at Carrow Road - perhaps he can come "home".
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,759
    edited 9:18PM
    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Think of it more as a violent form of chess.
    An awful lot goes down in those few seconds.
    Nah. It’s just a crap sport
    You've made it fairly clear that you don't understand it well enough to form anything more than a superficial judgment.
    But that is not uncharacteristic.
    I used to be into it when I was about 19. Because that’s who it’s aimed at. Late teenagers

    It is the marvel comic universe of sports. It’s shit
    You're not really rebutting my comment.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,817
    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Think of it more as a violent form of chess.
    An awful lot goes down in those few seconds.
    Nah. It’s just a crap sport
    You've made it fairly clear that you don't understand it well enough to form anything more than a superficial judgment.
    But that is not uncharacteristic.
    I used to be into it when I was about 19. Because that’s who it’s aimed at. Late teenagers

    It is the marvel comic universe of sports. It’s shit
    Sure.
    I live a life of intense and varied experiences. I learn to rank them, fast. You don’t

    This would probably be an amazing treat for you. For me it isn’t. Onwards
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,194
    I loved my macbook M2 until bloody Liquid Arse update. They better get 26.1 update quickly (where they tone the luquid arse effect right down).
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,291
    Kemi Badenoch

    @KemiBadenoch
    ·
    14h
    My message is clear: if you’re here illegally, you will be detained and deported.

    Our new Removals Force, modelled on US ICE, will deport 150,000 illegal migrants each year.



    She wants us to model this?

    https://x.com/PabloReports/status/1974882303211192750
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 20,539
    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Think of it more as a violent form of chess.
    An awful lot goes down in those few seconds.
    Nah. It’s just a crap sport
    You've made it fairly clear that you don't understand it well enough to form anything more than a superficial judgment.
    But that is not uncharacteristic.
    I used to be into it when I was about 19. Because that’s who it’s aimed at. Late teenagers

    It is the marvel comic universe of sports. It’s shit
    Weirdly there is the germ of a really good game there. I’d scrap the helmets and ensure safer tackling. I’d probably ditch the forward pass too. Then maybe a few more players on the pitch and no special teams for offence and defence - one team does both.

    But then I realise it’s rugby.

    More seriously I like a watch on a Sunday night, and even have a team, the Packers. But it’s just so slow. Needlessly slow.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,291
    Scott_xP said:

    Oh

    @financialtimes.com‬

    Reform likely to raise Kent council tax after cost-cutting drive falters on.ft.com/4pTvJ62

    "falters"???

    LOL.

    "All our money goes on mandated social care"
    "Oh, we didn't know that."
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,759
    The MAGA replies to this are remarkable for their utter ignorance of both the law, and the facts of the case.

    https://x.com/ReichlinMelnick/status/1974663550850511057
    Stephen Miller has now declared this Trump-appointed judge an insurrectionist.

    To emphasize, the judge painstakingly examined all the protest happening in Portland before Trump activated the Guard. She noted that there hadn't been any violence at a protest since mid-July...


    The Trump administration* has ignored the court order and is trying to go ahead with the illegal deployment of the military.

    *I don't ascribe all that much policy to Trump himself these days, as he seems to be a malign but semi-senile figurehead, manipulated by those that surround him.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,137
    Leon said:

    I can’t stand American football but this is an incredible stadium. Almost brand new. Sofi in Hollywood Park

    It’s frigging enormous. Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics

    What's the point of calling it "football" when you play with your hands?

    Dumbass colonists!!
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,069

    Kemi Badenoch

    @KemiBadenoch
    ·
    14h
    My message is clear: if you’re here illegally, you will be detained and deported.

    Our new Removals Force, modelled on US ICE, will deport 150,000 illegal migrants each year.



    She wants us to model this?

    https://x.com/PabloReports/status/1974882303211192750

    This is insanely risky. Upside - get some of the Conservatives voters back from Reform. Downside - lose some of those who have stuck with the Conservatives because they are supposed to be the sane option.

    It's even riskier if you consider that there is a non-zero chance ICE morph into Trump's private army over the next few years.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,397
    Nigelb said:

    The MAGA replies to this are remarkable for their utter ignorance of both the law, and the facts of the case.

    https://x.com/ReichlinMelnick/status/1974663550850511057
    Stephen Miller has now declared this Trump-appointed judge an insurrectionist.

    To emphasize, the judge painstakingly examined all the protest happening in Portland before Trump activated the Guard. She noted that there hadn't been any violence at a protest since mid-July...


    The Trump administration* has ignored the court order and is trying to go ahead with the illegal deployment of the military.

    *I don't ascribe all that much policy to Trump himself these days, as he seems to be a malign but semi-senile figurehead, manipulated by those that surround him.

    @GovPressOffice

    A senior White House official accusing a federal judge — appointed by his own boss — of “insurrection” for ruling on a case isn’t just reckless. It’s authoritarian propaganda, plain and simple.

    Stephen Miller should be fired.

    https://x.com/GovPressOffice/status/1974680863716848078
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,759
    .
    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Think of it more as a violent form of chess.
    An awful lot goes down in those few seconds.
    Nah. It’s just a crap sport
    You've made it fairly clear that you don't understand it well enough to form anything more than a superficial judgment.
    But that is not uncharacteristic.
    I used to be into it when I was about 19. Because that’s who it’s aimed at. Late teenagers

    It is the marvel comic universe of sports. It’s shit
    Sure.
    I live a life of intense and varied experiences. I learn to rank them, fast. You don’t

    This would probably be an amazing treat for you. For me it isn’t. Onwards
    Actually going to a game ?
    Tried it a couple of times, and not really my thing.
    Much more interesting on television.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 16,228
    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Think of it more as a violent form of chess.
    An awful lot goes down in those few seconds.
    Nah. It’s just a crap sport
    You've made it fairly clear that you don't understand it well enough to form anything more than a superficial judgment.
    But that is not uncharacteristic.
    I used to be into it when I was about 19. Because that’s who it’s aimed at. Late teenagers

    It is the marvel comic universe of sports. It’s shit
    There id a Michael McIntyre routine about the shop 'Argos', in which he has Argos saying "We've had a great idea - we think shops ought to be ike THIS" - and absolutely noone agrees and follows suit. I often think of it when I see what Americans think football should be like.

    That said, it's possibly my second favourite form code of football, after rugby union but above rugby league, Australian rules, Gaelic and association.

    I have no objection to the staccato nature of the game. Cricket is like that - a thing happens, a thing stops happening. Shortly, the process repeats itself. And cricket is fucking ace.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 57,345
    HYUFD said:

    Sean_F said:

    Leon said:

    God I fucking hate America

    No I don’t want to choose my blend, roast, origin, style, size, heat level, terroir, gluten levels and milk fat content of my coffee

    Especially when at the end it tastes like very fucking average coffee

    I miss Naples

    I've been drinking mine with crud in the bottom, Bosnian style. Very nice, poky but better for lingering over than an espresso which you should knock back standing and walk out (or have as a stiffener between rounds of beer). Even learnt to make it.

    Yesterday I was in the Genocide museum in Mostar. Sickening and chilling, really well-chosen exhibits that bring it home. It's not very big, no matter, I couldn't stay any longer.

    One guy had his throat cut by Chetniks in 1943 and thrown off the bridge at Višegrad. They didn't do a very good job,he swum to the bank and survived. Fifty years later they did it again, tied his hands and feet this time.

    Another guy had his wife and 10 kids killed by Chetniks in WW2. He remarried after the war and had 5 more. In 1993 they killed four of them.

    Did this evil really pass us by? Why were we fucking around for several years before doing anything?
    Because, the first few years, the Diplomatic Approach was the de rigueur. Apparently all they needed was stern resolution from Serious Chaps and lots of talking.

    During this period, Thatcher (out of power) argued for arming the non-Serb forces. Lord Turd said, sneerily, that this would just be “Levelling the killing field.”

    When that failed, UN Interventionism was tried. So soldiers from around the world watched at atrocities, while wearing Blue Helmets. And doing nothing.

    Finally the Americans got bored/annoyed by Sebranica . And armed all the anti-Serb forces. By kept them on a tight leash (air power, control of logistics), they were prevented from massacring the Serbs back.

    The American brokered peace deal was fairly simple. “If any of you gets vaguely tempted about a rematch, we will fuck you up real bad.”
    What a wonderful piece of weasel-speak is “levelling the killing field.”

    I went on holiday to Dubrovnik in 2012. The owner of the apartment told us that his daughter was at Zagreb University when the fighting started. She and three other students were driving back to Dubrovnik, when their car was hit by a Serbian shell.
    Indeed.

    Lord Turd is a Turd, as a result of that, forevermore.

    Lord Turd of Sebranica, to give him his full title.


    Rubbish he did an excellent job in the Gulf War and was a reformist Home Secretary. There was no desire to get involved in the Yugoslavian civil war, certainly initially or even in some quarters by 1999 as shown by Alan Clark's comments in the House.

    Had Lord Hurd to speak at university and he was excellent
    He is very very stupid. In the way that only an intelligent man can be.

    And it wasn't just "not getting involved". There was a careful and active blockade of the anti-Serb forces - the Serbs had most of the old Yugoslav Army and were supported, heavily by Russia. Who defied the sanctions.

    The blockade was actively supported and worked for by The Turd.

    Thatcher spoke in support of lifting the blockade.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 34,805
    ...
    Leon said:

    Let’s go!!



    Blimey! Bloody short measures in California!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,194

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Think of it more as a violent form of chess.
    An awful lot goes down in those few seconds.
    Nah. It’s just a crap sport
    You've made it fairly clear that you don't understand it well enough to form anything more than a superficial judgment.
    But that is not uncharacteristic.
    I used to be into it when I was about 19. Because that’s who it’s aimed at. Late teenagers

    It is the marvel comic universe of sports. It’s shit
    Weirdly there is the germ of a really good game there. I’d scrap the helmets and ensure safer tackling. I’d probably ditch the forward pass too. Then maybe a few more players on the pitch and no special teams for offence and defence - one team does both.

    But then I realise it’s rugby.

    More seriously I like a watch on a Sunday night, and even have a team, the Packers. But it’s just so slow. Needlessly slow.
    It is why Redzone is genius.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,397
    Eabhal said:

    Kemi Badenoch

    @KemiBadenoch
    ·
    14h
    My message is clear: if you’re here illegally, you will be detained and deported.

    Our new Removals Force, modelled on US ICE, will deport 150,000 illegal migrants each year.



    She wants us to model this?

    https://x.com/PabloReports/status/1974882303211192750

    This is insanely risky. Upside - get some of the Conservatives voters back from Reform. Downside - lose some of those who have stuck with the Conservatives because they are supposed to be the sane option.

    It's even riskier if you consider that there is a non-zero chance ICE morph into Trump's private army over the next few years.
    ...
  • FF43 said:

    Carnyx said:

    Bloody laptop now updated to Win 11 at last after two failed downloads. Taken much of the afternoon and evening. Now I can depart. Night all.

    Get a Macbook :wink:
    MacBooks are extortionate. You can't buy one for less than £1000 - it goes up rapidly from there - and at the price the models are nice, but not that nice. With discounts you can buy decent enough Windows and Chromebook equivalents for literally half the price.
    My experience is pay twice as much for a Macbook - and they last four times as long. No hassles upgrading the operating system either.

    Every Windows laptop I ever had turned to sludge after a few years.
    You have to pick the right one. One of my Dell laptops is 14 years old and still in daily use. It started off as a dual-core i3 with 2GB of RAM, a 500GB hard drive, 802.11n wifi and Windows 7. Now it has a quad core i7 (yay for socketed CPUs), 16GB RAM, a 1TB SSD, 802.11ac wifi and Windows 10.

    Still works fine for most general tasks.

    You're not getting that kind of longevity or upgrade path from any laptop Apple ever made.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,817
    I’M GETTING A WAYMO
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 3,186
    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    I suspect Badenoch has done enough in the past 24 hours to keep the Conservative leadership for now. The ECHR position isn't for me and the ludicrous diktat every PPC for the Party must publicly commit to it reminds me of how various candidates undermined John Major in 1997.

    I'm also of the view if it had been a policy worth doing, why wasn't it doen under Johnson, Truss or Sunak? Why has it taken the worst defeat in their history for the Conservatives to "see the light" on the ECHR or is it something else?

    It's to be hoped she moves off trying to make the Conservative Party the moderate wing of Reform. As others have opined, it'll be interesting to see what Stride says about economic policy.

    Think jury is still out on Kemi. She's certainly not an IDS-type dud - indeed, may even, just discernible?, have a dusting of something special. Or maybe not. But it's not impossible. What may prove impossible is turning things round in time, and riding out next May. We shall see. But it's not over til it's over, and having watched the speech I think she still has a fighting chance.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,777
    Nigelb said:

    .

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Think of it more as a violent form of chess.
    An awful lot goes down in those few seconds.
    Nah. It’s just a crap sport
    You've made it fairly clear that you don't understand it well enough to form anything more than a superficial judgment.
    But that is not uncharacteristic.
    I used to be into it when I was about 19. Because that’s who it’s aimed at. Late teenagers

    It is the marvel comic universe of sports. It’s shit
    Sure.
    I live a life of intense and varied experiences. I learn to rank them, fast. You don’t

    This would probably be an amazing treat for you. For me it isn’t. Onwards
    Actually going to a game ?
    Tried it a couple of times, and not really my thing.
    Much more interesting on television.
    The worst crowd violence I've ever witnessed was at my only American Football game.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,828
    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Think of it more as a violent form of chess.
    An awful lot goes down in those few seconds.
    Nah. It’s just a crap sport
    You've made it fairly clear that you don't understand it well enough to form anything more than a superficial judgment.
    But that is not uncharacteristic.
    I used to be into it when I was about 19. Because that’s who it’s aimed at. Late teenagers

    It is the marvel comic universe of sports. It’s shit
    Sure.
    I live a life of intense and varied experiences. I learn to rank them, fast. You don’t

    This would probably be an amazing treat for you. For me it isn’t. Onwards
    I think they go for the hotdogs and big cups of fizzy pop really.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,291
    Eabhal said:

    Kemi Badenoch

    @KemiBadenoch
    ·
    14h
    My message is clear: if you’re here illegally, you will be detained and deported.

    Our new Removals Force, modelled on US ICE, will deport 150,000 illegal migrants each year.



    She wants us to model this?

    https://x.com/PabloReports/status/1974882303211192750

    This is insanely risky. Upside - get some of the Conservatives voters back from Reform. Downside - lose some of those who have stuck with the Conservatives because they are supposed to be the sane option.

    It's even riskier if you consider that there is a non-zero chance ICE morph into Trump's private army over the next few years.
    Yep. It's definitely non-zero and more like 80:20 to be honest.

    Still, whoever takes over from Badenoch next summer can sort the policy out I suppose.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,194
    edited 9:40PM

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Think of it more as a violent form of chess.
    An awful lot goes down in those few seconds.
    Nah. It’s just a crap sport
    You've made it fairly clear that you don't understand it well enough to form anything more than a superficial judgment.
    But that is not uncharacteristic.
    I used to be into it when I was about 19. Because that’s who it’s aimed at. Late teenagers

    It is the marvel comic universe of sports. It’s shit
    Sure.
    I live a life of intense and varied experiences. I learn to rank them, fast. You don’t

    This would probably be an amazing treat for you. For me it isn’t. Onwards
    I think they go for the hotdogs and big cups of fizzy pop really.
    No that is the baseball....the game that makes Boycott era test cricket look exciting. Its takes even longer than NFL, f##k all happens for most of it, and unless you are in the expensive seats you don't see what the pitcher is doing.

    I was lucky to be right behind home plate for Aroldis Chapman chucking them at 105mph, that was special, but he only throws 1-2 Innings at the end.

    Basketball is weirdly boring. Its a game of small edges, the team patterns are drilled within an inch of their lives and it feels like you might as well skip unless the last minute.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 34,805
    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    The MAGA replies to this are remarkable for their utter ignorance of both the law, and the facts of the case.

    https://x.com/ReichlinMelnick/status/1974663550850511057
    Stephen Miller has now declared this Trump-appointed judge an insurrectionist.

    To emphasize, the judge painstakingly examined all the protest happening in Portland before Trump activated the Guard. She noted that there hadn't been any violence at a protest since mid-July...


    The Trump administration* has ignored the court order and is trying to go ahead with the illegal deployment of the military.

    *I don't ascribe all that much policy to Trump himself these days, as he seems to be a malign but semi-senile figurehead, manipulated by those that surround him.

    @GovPressOffice

    A senior White House official accusing a federal judge — appointed by his own boss — of “insurrection” for ruling on a case isn’t just reckless. It’s authoritarian propaganda, plain and simple.

    Stephen Miller should be fired.

    https://x.com/GovPressOffice/status/1974680863716848078
    I cannot think of anyone more dangerous to the American (and possibly the Western) way of life than Stephen Miller. Please follow every tweet and every word uttered by this genuinely evil menace.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,897
    Told you Kemi was the best option at the moment.

    "Dumping Badenoch would not reduce Farage’s lead over Tories, poll finds
    Kemi outscores Jenrick, Cleverly and Johnson in head-to-heads, but Reform leader still beats all four" (£)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/10/05/badenoch-best-tory-to-challenge-farage-poll-finds
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,659

    HYUFD said:

    Sean_F said:

    Leon said:

    God I fucking hate America

    No I don’t want to choose my blend, roast, origin, style, size, heat level, terroir, gluten levels and milk fat content of my coffee

    Especially when at the end it tastes like very fucking average coffee

    I miss Naples

    I've been drinking mine with crud in the bottom, Bosnian style. Very nice, poky but better for lingering over than an espresso which you should knock back standing and walk out (or have as a stiffener between rounds of beer). Even learnt to make it.

    Yesterday I was in the Genocide museum in Mostar. Sickening and chilling, really well-chosen exhibits that bring it home. It's not very big, no matter, I couldn't stay any longer.

    One guy had his throat cut by Chetniks in 1943 and thrown off the bridge at Višegrad. They didn't do a very good job,he swum to the bank and survived. Fifty years later they did it again, tied his hands and feet this time.

    Another guy had his wife and 10 kids killed by Chetniks in WW2. He remarried after the war and had 5 more. In 1993 they killed four of them.

    Did this evil really pass us by? Why were we fucking around for several years before doing anything?
    Because, the first few years, the Diplomatic Approach was the de rigueur. Apparently all they needed was stern resolution from Serious Chaps and lots of talking.

    During this period, Thatcher (out of power) argued for arming the non-Serb forces. Lord Turd said, sneerily, that this would just be “Levelling the killing field.”

    When that failed, UN Interventionism was tried. So soldiers from around the world watched at atrocities, while wearing Blue Helmets. And doing nothing.

    Finally the Americans got bored/annoyed by Sebranica . And armed all the anti-Serb forces. By kept them on a tight leash (air power, control of logistics), they were prevented from massacring the Serbs back.

    The American brokered peace deal was fairly simple. “If any of you gets vaguely tempted about a rematch, we will fuck you up real bad.”
    What a wonderful piece of weasel-speak is “levelling the killing field.”

    I went on holiday to Dubrovnik in 2012. The owner of the apartment told us that his daughter was at Zagreb University when the fighting started. She and three other students were driving back to Dubrovnik, when their car was hit by a Serbian shell.
    Indeed.

    Lord Turd is a Turd, as a result of that, forevermore.

    Lord Turd of Sebranica, to give him his full title.


    Rubbish he did an excellent job in the Gulf War and was a reformist Home Secretary. There was no desire to get involved in the Yugoslavian civil war, certainly initially or even in some quarters by 1999 as shown by Alan Clark's comments in the House.

    Had Lord Hurd to speak at university and he was excellent
    He is very very stupid. In the way that only an intelligent man can be.

    And it wasn't just "not getting involved". There was a careful and active blockade of the anti-Serb forces - the Serbs had most of the old Yugoslav Army and were supported, heavily by Russia. Who defied the sanctions.

    The blockade was actively supported and worked for by The Turd.

    Thatcher spoke in support of lifting the blockade.
    I dislike mendacity.

    “Creating a level killing field” meant “enabling victims of aggression to defend themselves.” It’s why I dislike Peter Hitchens’ claim that he only wants “peace” in Ukraine, when what he means is “Russian victory.”

    Unpleasant opinions, honestly expressed, are less annoying than gaslighting and bad faith arguments.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 34,805

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Think of it more as a violent form of chess.
    An awful lot goes down in those few seconds.
    Nah. It’s just a crap sport
    You've made it fairly clear that you don't understand it well enough to form anything more than a superficial judgment.
    But that is not uncharacteristic.
    I used to be into it when I was about 19. Because that’s who it’s aimed at. Late teenagers

    It is the marvel comic universe of sports. It’s shit
    Sure.
    I live a life of intense and varied experiences. I learn to rank them, fast. You don’t

    This would probably be an amazing treat for you. For me it isn’t. Onwards
    I think they go for the hotdogs and big cups of fizzy pop really.
    No that is the baseball....the game that makes Boycott era test cricket look exciting. Its takes even longer than NFL, f##k all happens for most of it, and unless you are in the expensive seats you don't see what the pitcher is doing.

    I was lucky to be right behind home plate for Aroldis Chapman chucking them at 105mph, that was special, but he only throws 1-2 Innings at the end.
    Surely not. A King Geoff innings felt like it took up a fortnight of one's life.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,194
    edited 9:42PM

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    Everybody just went bonkers coz some guy ran about ten yards

    Think of it more as a violent form of chess.
    An awful lot goes down in those few seconds.
    Nah. It’s just a crap sport
    You've made it fairly clear that you don't understand it well enough to form anything more than a superficial judgment.
    But that is not uncharacteristic.
    I used to be into it when I was about 19. Because that’s who it’s aimed at. Late teenagers

    It is the marvel comic universe of sports. It’s shit
    Sure.
    I live a life of intense and varied experiences. I learn to rank them, fast. You don’t

    This would probably be an amazing treat for you. For me it isn’t. Onwards
    I think they go for the hotdogs and big cups of fizzy pop really.
    No that is the baseball....the game that makes Boycott era test cricket look exciting. Its takes even longer than NFL, f##k all happens for most of it, and unless you are in the expensive seats you don't see what the pitcher is doing.

    I was lucky to be right behind home plate for Aroldis Chapman chucking them at 105mph, that was special, but he only throws 1-2 Innings at the end.
    Surely not. A King Geoff innings felt like it took up a fortnight of one's life.
    I once watched a no hitter and the crowd went wild...the other side had only 1 hit, a home run that just crept over the fence that was a splice that just stayed fair. I would have happily watched Sir Geoff bat at his slowest that day.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,541
    Eabhal said:

    Kemi Badenoch

    @KemiBadenoch
    ·
    14h
    My message is clear: if you’re here illegally, you will be detained and deported.

    Our new Removals Force, modelled on US ICE, will deport 150,000 illegal migrants each year.



    She wants us to model this?

    https://x.com/PabloReports/status/1974882303211192750

    This is insanely risky. Upside - get some of the Conservatives voters back from Reform. Downside - lose some of those who have stuck with the Conservatives because they are supposed to be the sane option.

    It's even riskier if you consider that there is a non-zero chance ICE morph into Trump's private army over the next few years.
    It was bad enough that Farage thinks copying Trump is a good idea, but now that cancer has clearly spread to the Tories.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,860
    edited 9:45PM

    Leon said:

    I can’t stand American football but this is an incredible stadium. Almost brand new. Sofi in Hollywood Park

    It’s frigging enormous. Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics

    What's the point of calling it "football" when you play with your hands?

    Dumbass colonists!!
    What's the point of calling it a sport when they spend 80% of the game milling around?

    I went to a game once and was bored out of my skull. Maybe half an hour of doing something in three hours of gameplay. And half an hour getting in and to our seats at the start and about an hour leaving the backed up parking lot afterwards.

    Overall American football makes even a nil-all draw after half an hour's extra time look like an afternoon well spent.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,828

    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    I suspect Badenoch has done enough in the past 24 hours to keep the Conservative leadership for now. The ECHR position isn't for me and the ludicrous diktat every PPC for the Party must publicly commit to it reminds me of how various candidates undermined John Major in 1997.

    I'm also of the view if it had been a policy worth doing, why wasn't it doen under Johnson, Truss or Sunak? Why has it taken the worst defeat in their history for the Conservatives to "see the light" on the ECHR or is it something else?

    It's to be hoped she moves off trying to make the Conservative Party the moderate wing of Reform. As others have opined, it'll be interesting to see what Stride says about economic policy.

    Think jury is still out on Kemi. She's certainly not an IDS-type dud - indeed, may even, just discernible?, have a dusting of something special. Or maybe not. But it's not impossible. What may prove impossible is turning things round in time, and riding out next May. We shall see. But it's not over til it's over, and having watched the speech I think she still has a fighting chance.
    It was a good speech.

    I think Kemi is exactly what she she always has been as a minister, a leadership candidate, and a leader. Pretty impressive as a speaker, got a bit about her, makes the odd gaffe, is sometimes combative and talks a very combative game, but actually does a fair bit more path of least resistance stuff than she would publicly acknowledge. Bright and articulate but not a genius.

    The question is whether that's enough in the circumstances. It might be enough with a bit of luck. Not to turn back the Nige tide, but to keep the Tories successful enough to form a decent chunk of his Government, and eventually effect a backward takeover of Reform. Kemi isn't silly. She knows the story of Canada as well as Farage does.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,395
    edited 9:46PM
    Andy_JS said:

    Told you Kemi was the best option at the moment.

    "Dumping Badenoch would not reduce Farage’s lead over Tories, poll finds
    Kemi outscores Jenrick, Cleverly and Johnson in head-to-heads, but Reform leader still beats all four" (£)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/10/05/badenoch-best-tory-to-challenge-farage-poll-finds

    I think "best" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Probably "least worst" is more accurate.

    That's why she'll be safe until the local elections next year - none of her potential opponents would be doing any better against Reform. IF, however, the elections are very bad, the pressure to remove her will likely be irresistible.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,194
    More back story to the Jihadi Jihad.

    Manchester synagogue attacker was cannabis-smoking university dropout
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/05/manchester-synagogue-attacker-cannabis-smoking-drop-out/
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,817
    Omfg my first ever driverless ride

    Wild wild wild
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,194
    Leon said:

    Omfg my first ever driverless ride

    Wild wild wild

    I shall be testing out the Chinese versions in a few weeks...they apparently drive more like the Stig and less like the old man Waymos.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,817
    So much better than some stupid human driver telling me about his tedious kids at college. Christ we b nearly crashed
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,263

    Cyclists injured record number of pedestrians last year, data reveals
    Collisions on pavements and at zebra crossings surged nearly 60 percent in five years
    ...
    Last year was the worst on record for casualties involving cyclists on pavements and at zebra crossings.

    Police recorded 603 incidents where a pedestrian was injured in collision with a cyclist in 2024.

    That’s up 19 percent from the 507 similar injuries in 2023.

    Up to 321 of those collisions took place either on a pavement or a pedestrian crossing, a 9 percent surge from the 292 seen in 2023.

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/cyclists-injured-pedestrians-record-5HjdDww_2/

    Context, please - These stats are meaningless without comparable cycling miles or trips taken. The City of London for example saw a 50% increase in cycling from 2022-24.

    I’m willing to bet a lot of the increase is due to the explosion of delivery riders on illegally modified e-bikes.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,817
    This is possibly even more of a mindfuck than live translate on AirPods3
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 20,539
    Fishing said:

    Leon said:

    I can’t stand American football but this is an incredible stadium. Almost brand new. Sofi in Hollywood Park

    It’s frigging enormous. Host for the opening ceremony of the next Olympics

    What's the point of calling it "football" when you play with your hands?

    Dumbass colonists!!
    What's the point of calling it a sport when they spend 80% of the game milling around?

    I went to a game once and was bored out of my skull. Maybe half an hour of doing something in three hours of gameplay. And half an hour getting in and to our seats at the start and about an hour leaving the backed up parking lot afterwards.

    Overall American football makes even a nil-all draw after half an hour's extra time look like an afternoon well spent.
    Sports funny. Sometimes it’s what you make it, sometimes it depends on what you bring with you. Many years ago I lived in Norwich, and was fairly regular at Carrow Road. I’ve also watched Swindon since I was 9. One weekend we had a stag do with attending a game as part of the whole shebang. The game was terrible. Turgid, rubbish football. Cannot remember the score. But one of our party sat there enraptured. Like the most exciting thing he had ever seen. He was incredulous when I and a friend described how bad it was.

    He had never been to live football before.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,194
    edited 9:57PM
    Ice Hockey is the best US sport. Constant high paced action and loads of violence (although they have rather cut that down in recent years). NHL of 20-30 years ago was 1 part dynamic skating game, 1 part MMA fight, 1 part disco (whenever the refs have to stop the play to break up the fouls / fighting).
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,817
    Wherever these taxis become feasible they will completely destroy normal cabs. They are vastly superior
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,659

    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    I suspect Badenoch has done enough in the past 24 hours to keep the Conservative leadership for now. The ECHR position isn't for me and the ludicrous diktat every PPC for the Party must publicly commit to it reminds me of how various candidates undermined John Major in 1997.

    I'm also of the view if it had been a policy worth doing, why wasn't it doen under Johnson, Truss or Sunak? Why has it taken the worst defeat in their history for the Conservatives to "see the light" on the ECHR or is it something else?

    It's to be hoped she moves off trying to make the Conservative Party the moderate wing of Reform. As others have opined, it'll be interesting to see what Stride says about economic policy.

    Think jury is still out on Kemi. She's certainly not an IDS-type dud - indeed, may even, just discernible?, have a dusting of something special. Or maybe not. But it's not impossible. What may prove impossible is turning things round in time, and riding out next May. We shall see. But it's not over til it's over, and having watched the speech I think she still has a fighting chance.
    It was a good speech.

    I think Kemi is exactly what she she always has been as a minister, a leadership candidate, and a leader. Pretty impressive as a speaker, got a bit about her, makes the odd gaffe, is sometimes combative and talks a very combative game, but actually does a fair bit more path of least resistance stuff than she would publicly acknowledge. Bright and articulate but not a genius.

    The question is whether that's enough in the circumstances. It might be enough with a bit of luck. Not to turn back the Nige tide, but to keep the Tories successful enough to form a decent chunk of his Government, and eventually effect a backward takeover of Reform. Kemi isn't silly. She knows the story of Canada as well as Farage does.
    I think she’s just in the wrong place, at the wrong time.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,353
    Leon said:

    Wherever these taxis become feasible they will completely destroy normal cabs. They are vastly superior

    Tangentially:

    https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2025-09-30/can-driverless-cars-get-tickets-what-happened-when-bay-area-police-pulled-over-a-waymo
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,194
    edited 10:00PM
    Sean_F said:

    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    I suspect Badenoch has done enough in the past 24 hours to keep the Conservative leadership for now. The ECHR position isn't for me and the ludicrous diktat every PPC for the Party must publicly commit to it reminds me of how various candidates undermined John Major in 1997.

    I'm also of the view if it had been a policy worth doing, why wasn't it doen under Johnson, Truss or Sunak? Why has it taken the worst defeat in their history for the Conservatives to "see the light" on the ECHR or is it something else?

    It's to be hoped she moves off trying to make the Conservative Party the moderate wing of Reform. As others have opined, it'll be interesting to see what Stride says about economic policy.

    Think jury is still out on Kemi. She's certainly not an IDS-type dud - indeed, may even, just discernible?, have a dusting of something special. Or maybe not. But it's not impossible. What may prove impossible is turning things round in time, and riding out next May. We shall see. But it's not over til it's over, and having watched the speech I think she still has a fighting chance.
    It was a good speech.

    I think Kemi is exactly what she she always has been as a minister, a leadership candidate, and a leader. Pretty impressive as a speaker, got a bit about her, makes the odd gaffe, is sometimes combative and talks a very combative game, but actually does a fair bit more path of least resistance stuff than she would publicly acknowledge. Bright and articulate but not a genius.

    The question is whether that's enough in the circumstances. It might be enough with a bit of luck. Not to turn back the Nige tide, but to keep the Tories successful enough to form a decent chunk of his Government, and eventually effect a backward takeover of Reform. Kemi isn't silly. She knows the story of Canada as well as Farage does.
    I think she’s just in the wrong place, at the wrong time.
    I am struggling to think of a right time for her to be leader. I think Sunak could be argued was wrong time, he was never a "leader" but in more boring economic conditions he would have done fine.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 6,785
    stodge said:

    dixiedean said:

    Martin sacked by Rangers.

    There may soon be a vacancy at Carrow Road - perhaps he can come "home".
    That would please Doug Seal and I more than it would Wooliedyed.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,817
    Just persuaded the robot to do some doughnuts. Total bantz
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 57,345

    More back story to the Jihadi Jihad.

    Manchester synagogue attacker was cannabis-smoking university dropout
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/05/manchester-synagogue-attacker-cannabis-smoking-drop-out/

    When was the last time we had a member of the Spontaneously Self Exploding* Community who didn't follow this path?

    1) Loser
    2) Criminal
    3) Found God (exploding kind) in jail
    4) Exploded

    *Well, wanabee. The recent batch can't do chemistry and can't get hold of explosives. So they play Lets Pretend To Be A Suicide Bomber.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 20,539
    Sean_F said:

    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    I suspect Badenoch has done enough in the past 24 hours to keep the Conservative leadership for now. The ECHR position isn't for me and the ludicrous diktat every PPC for the Party must publicly commit to it reminds me of how various candidates undermined John Major in 1997.

    I'm also of the view if it had been a policy worth doing, why wasn't it doen under Johnson, Truss or Sunak? Why has it taken the worst defeat in their history for the Conservatives to "see the light" on the ECHR or is it something else?

    It's to be hoped she moves off trying to make the Conservative Party the moderate wing of Reform. As others have opined, it'll be interesting to see what Stride says about economic policy.

    Think jury is still out on Kemi. She's certainly not an IDS-type dud - indeed, may even, just discernible?, have a dusting of something special. Or maybe not. But it's not impossible. What may prove impossible is turning things round in time, and riding out next May. We shall see. But it's not over til it's over, and having watched the speech I think she still has a fighting chance.
    It was a good speech.

    I think Kemi is exactly what she she always has been as a minister, a leadership candidate, and a leader. Pretty impressive as a speaker, got a bit about her, makes the odd gaffe, is sometimes combative and talks a very combative game, but actually does a fair bit more path of least resistance stuff than she would publicly acknowledge. Bright and articulate but not a genius.

    The question is whether that's enough in the circumstances. It might be enough with a bit of luck. Not to turn back the Nige tide, but to keep the Tories successful enough to form a decent chunk of his Government, and eventually effect a backward takeover of Reform. Kemi isn't silly. She knows the story of Canada as well as Farage does.
    I think she’s just in the wrong place, at the wrong time.
    That’s certainly what a lot of Reform voters think…
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,353
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gzv9j78dyo

    Tories double down on Labour's shameful foreign aid cuts.

    Who do I vote for next time? Christ.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 57,345
    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    Wherever these taxis become feasible they will completely destroy normal cabs. They are vastly superior

    Tangentially:

    https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2025-09-30/can-driverless-cars-get-tickets-what-happened-when-bay-area-police-pulled-over-a-waymo
    How with small towns in America fund themselves if they can't impose ruinous fines on out of town drivers?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 88,194
    edited 10:08PM

    More back story to the Jihadi Jihad.

    Manchester synagogue attacker was cannabis-smoking university dropout
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/05/manchester-synagogue-attacker-cannabis-smoking-drop-out/

    When was the last time we had a member of the Spontaneously Self Exploding* Community who didn't follow this path?

    1) Loser
    2) Criminal
    3) Found God (exploding kind) in jail
    4) Exploded

    *Well, wanabee. The recent batch can't do chemistry and can't get hold of explosives. So they play Lets Pretend To Be A Suicide Bomber.
    There is been a fair amount of evidence that the likes of ISIS recruiters were looking for exactly these kind of people and then fill them with stories that they can never undone their un-Islamic behaviour in this life without making the ultimate sacrifice.

    I can't remember the exact story (I am sure somebody like TSE can correct me), but something like come judgement those who have behaved poorly will face seven gates of Hell and they tell these low life criminals they will face the worst of the punishments and they are particularly nasty tales.
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