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  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,771
    Wouldn't want to get into a "Stokes" type incident with Brydon Carse :D He is enormous !
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,576
    edited 2:27PM
    MattW said:

    Foreign secretary David Lammy is in Singapore today announcing a new UK-Singapore Green Energy collaboration. As part of the deal, he’s pledged £70 million of UK taxpayers’ money to support Singapore’s “clean energy transition”.

    That well known poor developing country Singapore.

    Deliberate misreporting going on here in a couple of sources I checked - it's not for Singapore, it's money from the development budget to be part of a fund lead by Singapore to provide capital for green transition in Asia where it is not commercially viable but still useful.

    Given that we are now in CPTPP, it seems a useful partnership to develop.

    Here's how Guido misrepresented it:

    Foreign secretary David Lammy is in Singapore today announcing a new UK-Singapore Green Energy collaboration. As part of the deal, he’s pledged £70 million of UK taxpayers’ money to support Singapore’s “clean energy transition”. Clearly this was part of the foreign aid budget that couldn’t be cut…
    https://order-order.com/2025/07/14/david-lammy-hands-singapore-70-million-for-clean-energy-transition/

    And here's what it is actually:
    About Financing Asia’s Transition Partnership
    The Financing Asia’s Transition Partnership (“FAST-P"), a Singapore-led blended finance initiative in collaboration with key global public, private and philanthropic partners, aims to mobilise up to US$5 billion to de-risk and finance transition and marginally bankable green projects in Asia. The Singapore Government will pledge up to US$500 million as concessional capital, to match dollar-for-dollar, concessional capital from other partners, including other governments, multilateral development finance institutions and philanthropies.

    https://www.mas.gov.sg/news/media-releases/2025/singapore-uk-collaborate-on-energy-transition-sustainable-infrastructure-investments-in-sea
    Singapore promised $500m for this scheme at COP29 (we already make loads of our own commitments), we are now giving them basically 20% of that. It still stands they are an incredibly rich and can fund this commitment they made themselves.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,860
    HYUFD said:

    From the report summary

    "Whilst acknowledging Mr Wallace’s autism diagnosis, which is relevant to certain behaviours identified in the report and accepting that the production could have done more to identify, manage and communicate patterns of inappropriate behaviour, the volume and consistency of substantiated allegations, ranging between 2005 and 2024, make Gregg Wallace’s return to MasterChef untenable"

    Looks like his autism defence gets a nod. I call that bullsh*t!
    Being a rail enthusiast, I encounter a fair number of people on the austistic spectrum.

    But none of them have ever dropped their trousers and got their tackle out.
    If the defense lawyers have their way, autistic people will be unemployable.

    If you add up over the years, the things that have been claimed to be out of their control, we have

    - violence, to the point of murder
    - hacking and cybercrime
    - now sexual predation.
    And neurotypical people have been sacked or convicted of all the above too.

    However autism can be considered in sentencing by judges as can any other mental health disorder
    Autism isn't a mental health "disorder"
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,983
    Leon said:

    geoffw said:

    Leon said:

    There's a foolproof way to help England take another wicket: stop watching for a few minutes.

    I have missed every single wicket this morning, during 4 broief breaks - one bathroom, one delivery, one looking for phone, one "doing a quick tidy"

    I have literally been rivetted otherwise!

    If you don't mind can you lock your in the toilet from about 1.40pm for a couple of hours.
    Wouldn't a couple of minutes be better?

    The remainder of the month sounds better still.
    Shut up, pleb
    Stop picking on me you patrician!

    Barty Bobbins came up with almost the same comment as me a mere post after mine. Granted it was written in his usual swashbuckling style as befits a pirate, rather than that of an illiterate dustman.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 15,082

    Foreign secretary David Lammy is in Singapore today announcing a new UK-Singapore Green Energy collaboration. As part of the deal, he’s pledged £70 million of UK taxpayers’ money to support Singapore’s “clean energy transition”.

    That well known poor developing country, check notes, with one of the highest GPD / Capita in the world, Singapore.

    It's money for investment, not aid. We get it back, don't we?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,771

    HYUFD said:

    From the report summary

    "Whilst acknowledging Mr Wallace’s autism diagnosis, which is relevant to certain behaviours identified in the report and accepting that the production could have done more to identify, manage and communicate patterns of inappropriate behaviour, the volume and consistency of substantiated allegations, ranging between 2005 and 2024, make Gregg Wallace’s return to MasterChef untenable"

    Looks like his autism defence gets a nod. I call that bullsh*t!
    Being a rail enthusiast, I encounter a fair number of people on the austistic spectrum.

    But none of them have ever dropped their trousers and got their tackle out.
    If the defense lawyers have their way, autistic people will be unemployable.

    If you add up over the years, the things that have been claimed to be out of their control, we have

    - violence, to the point of murder
    - hacking and cybercrime
    - now sexual predation.
    And neurotypical people have been sacked or convicted of all the above too.

    However autism can be considered in sentencing by judges as can any other mental health disorder
    Autism isn't a mental health "disorder"
    I think the definition is so wide that it both is and isn't.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,576
    edited 2:27PM
    Stokes golden arm AGAIN...Keep calm everybody....
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,016

    England aren't winning this. Absolutely no idea how to bowl at tailenders

    Squeaky bum time now.
    Squeaky Bum-ra time.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,688
    Come on get the rabbit in
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 15,082
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Saturdays Opinium tables now out, with changes from 2 weeks ago (steady as she goes)

    Ref 29 (-1)
    Labour 24 (-1)
    Con 18 (+1)
    LD 13 (+1)
    Green 9 (=)
    SNP 3 (=)

    Gives Reform 323 seats, 3 short of a majority, so with the confidence and supply of the 5 DUP MPs Farage would become PM.

    Labour, the LDs, the SNP, Plaid, the SDLP, the Greens AND the Tories would all end up in opposition
    https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/usercode.py?scotcontrol=N&CON=18&LAB=24&LIB=13&Reform=29&Green=9&UKIP=&TVCON=&TVLAB=&TVLIB=&TVReform=&TVGreen=&TVUKIP=&SCOTCON=&SCOTLAB=&SCOTLIB=&SCOTReform=&SCOTGreen=&SCOTUKIP=&SCOTNAT=&display=AllChanged&regorseat=(none)&boundary=2024base
    Reform UK kind of have an alliance with the DUP's rival, the TUV, so they may not be entirely on board with supporting a RefUK government.
    'Farage backs DUP candidates despite TUV-Reform pact'
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c988p1xz2qdo
    So now both the TUV and the DUP have a reason not to trust him!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,576
    edited 2:34PM

    Foreign secretary David Lammy is in Singapore today announcing a new UK-Singapore Green Energy collaboration. As part of the deal, he’s pledged £70 million of UK taxpayers’ money to support Singapore’s “clean energy transition”.

    That well known poor developing country, check notes, with one of the highest GPD / Capita in the world, Singapore.

    It's money for investment, not aid. We get it back, don't we?
    In theory perhaps, check notes of all the outstanding loans given to Africa for infrastructure that nobody will never get back, with the constant calls for just writing it all off.

    I don't see the need for the UK to be providing 20% of the funding to a scheme that Singapore voluntary committed and can easily afford.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,860
    Pulpstar said:

    HYUFD said:

    From the report summary

    "Whilst acknowledging Mr Wallace’s autism diagnosis, which is relevant to certain behaviours identified in the report and accepting that the production could have done more to identify, manage and communicate patterns of inappropriate behaviour, the volume and consistency of substantiated allegations, ranging between 2005 and 2024, make Gregg Wallace’s return to MasterChef untenable"

    Looks like his autism defence gets a nod. I call that bullsh*t!
    Being a rail enthusiast, I encounter a fair number of people on the austistic spectrum.

    But none of them have ever dropped their trousers and got their tackle out.
    If the defense lawyers have their way, autistic people will be unemployable.

    If you add up over the years, the things that have been claimed to be out of their control, we have

    - violence, to the point of murder
    - hacking and cybercrime
    - now sexual predation.
    And neurotypical people have been sacked or convicted of all the above too.

    However autism can be considered in sentencing by judges as can any other mental health disorder
    Autism isn't a mental health "disorder"
    I think the definition is so wide that it both is and isn't.
    It's a neurodevelopmental disorder, quite different from mental illness (although people on the Spectrum do suffer more from mental ill health than the neurotypical do). So it's a lifelong condition, rather than an illness.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,982

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Saturdays Opinium tables now out, with changes from 2 weeks ago (steady as she goes)

    Ref 29 (-1)
    Labour 24 (-1)
    Con 18 (+1)
    LD 13 (+1)
    Green 9 (=)
    SNP 3 (=)

    Gives Reform 323 seats, 3 short of a majority, so with the confidence and supply of the 5 DUP MPs Farage would become PM.

    Labour, the LDs, the SNP, Plaid, the SDLP, the Greens AND the Tories would all end up in opposition
    https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/usercode.py?scotcontrol=N&CON=18&LAB=24&LIB=13&Reform=29&Green=9&UKIP=&TVCON=&TVLAB=&TVLIB=&TVReform=&TVGreen=&TVUKIP=&SCOTCON=&SCOTLAB=&SCOTLIB=&SCOTReform=&SCOTGreen=&SCOTUKIP=&SCOTNAT=&display=AllChanged&regorseat=(none)&boundary=2024base
    Reform UK kind of have an alliance with the DUP's rival, the TUV, so they may not be entirely on board with supporting a RefUK government.
    'Farage backs DUP candidates despite TUV-Reform pact'
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c988p1xz2qdo
    So now both the TUV and the DUP have a reason not to trust him!
    The TUV, DUP, Alliance, SDLP, Sinn Fein, Tories, Labour, Lib Dems, SNP, Plaid and the Greens would be daft to trust him.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,589

    MattW said:

    Foreign secretary David Lammy is in Singapore today announcing a new UK-Singapore Green Energy collaboration. As part of the deal, he’s pledged £70 million of UK taxpayers’ money to support Singapore’s “clean energy transition”.

    That well known poor developing country Singapore.

    Deliberate misreporting going on here in a couple of sources I checked - it's not for Singapore, it's money from the development budget to be part of a fund lead by Singapore to provide capital for green transition in Asia where it is not commercially viable but still useful.

    Given that we are now in CPTPP, it seems a useful partnership to develop.

    Here's how Guido misrepresented it:

    Foreign secretary David Lammy is in Singapore today announcing a new UK-Singapore Green Energy collaboration. As part of the deal, he’s pledged £70 million of UK taxpayers’ money to support Singapore’s “clean energy transition”. Clearly this was part of the foreign aid budget that couldn’t be cut…
    https://order-order.com/2025/07/14/david-lammy-hands-singapore-70-million-for-clean-energy-transition/

    And here's what it is actually:
    About Financing Asia’s Transition Partnership
    The Financing Asia’s Transition Partnership (“FAST-P"), a Singapore-led blended finance initiative in collaboration with key global public, private and philanthropic partners, aims to mobilise up to US$5 billion to de-risk and finance transition and marginally bankable green projects in Asia. The Singapore Government will pledge up to US$500 million as concessional capital, to match dollar-for-dollar, concessional capital from other partners, including other governments, multilateral development finance institutions and philanthropies.

    https://www.mas.gov.sg/news/media-releases/2025/singapore-uk-collaborate-on-energy-transition-sustainable-infrastructure-investments-in-sea
    Singapore promised $500m for this scheme at COP29 (we already make loads of our own commitments), we are now giving them basically 20% of that. It still stands they are an incredibly rich and can fund this commitment they made themselves.
    Why does Britain need to finance Asia's transition to green energy?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,983
    HYUFD said:

    From the report summary

    "Whilst acknowledging Mr Wallace’s autism diagnosis, which is relevant to certain behaviours identified in the report and accepting that the production could have done more to identify, manage and communicate patterns of inappropriate behaviour, the volume and consistency of substantiated allegations, ranging between 2005 and 2024, make Gregg Wallace’s return to MasterChef untenable"

    Looks like his autism defence gets a nod. I call that bullsh*t!
    Being a rail enthusiast, I encounter a fair number of people on the austistic spectrum.

    But none of them have ever dropped their trousers and got their tackle out.
    If the defense lawyers have their way, autistic people will be unemployable.

    If you add up over the years, the things that have been claimed to be out of their control, we have

    - violence, to the point of murder
    - hacking and cybercrime
    - now sexual predation.
    And neurotypical people have been sacked or convicted of all the above too.

    However autism can be considered in sentencing by judges as can any other mental health disorder
    That is a very ignorant second paragraph.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,768
    Oh god
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,771
    edited 2:37PM
    RobD said:

    MattW said:

    Foreign secretary David Lammy is in Singapore today announcing a new UK-Singapore Green Energy collaboration. As part of the deal, he’s pledged £70 million of UK taxpayers’ money to support Singapore’s “clean energy transition”.

    That well known poor developing country Singapore.

    Deliberate misreporting going on here in a couple of sources I checked - it's not for Singapore, it's money from the development budget to be part of a fund lead by Singapore to provide capital for green transition in Asia where it is not commercially viable but still useful.

    Given that we are now in CPTPP, it seems a useful partnership to develop.

    Here's how Guido misrepresented it:

    Foreign secretary David Lammy is in Singapore today announcing a new UK-Singapore Green Energy collaboration. As part of the deal, he’s pledged £70 million of UK taxpayers’ money to support Singapore’s “clean energy transition”. Clearly this was part of the foreign aid budget that couldn’t be cut…
    https://order-order.com/2025/07/14/david-lammy-hands-singapore-70-million-for-clean-energy-transition/

    And here's what it is actually:
    About Financing Asia’s Transition Partnership
    The Financing Asia’s Transition Partnership (“FAST-P"), a Singapore-led blended finance initiative in collaboration with key global public, private and philanthropic partners, aims to mobilise up to US$5 billion to de-risk and finance transition and marginally bankable green projects in Asia. The Singapore Government will pledge up to US$500 million as concessional capital, to match dollar-for-dollar, concessional capital from other partners, including other governments, multilateral development finance institutions and philanthropies.

    https://www.mas.gov.sg/news/media-releases/2025/singapore-uk-collaborate-on-energy-transition-sustainable-infrastructure-investments-in-sea
    Singapore promised $500m for this scheme at COP29 (we already make loads of our own commitments), we are now giving them basically 20% of that. It still stands they are an incredibly rich and can fund this commitment they made themselves.
    Why does Britain need to finance Asia's transition to green energy?
    Investment apparently, we'll be getting a return at some point according to @bondegezou; which would certainly make a change to Starmer, Miliband, Lammy & Reeves other "investments".
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,576
    edited 2:38PM
    RobD said:

    MattW said:

    Foreign secretary David Lammy is in Singapore today announcing a new UK-Singapore Green Energy collaboration. As part of the deal, he’s pledged £70 million of UK taxpayers’ money to support Singapore’s “clean energy transition”.

    That well known poor developing country Singapore.

    Deliberate misreporting going on here in a couple of sources I checked - it's not for Singapore, it's money from the development budget to be part of a fund lead by Singapore to provide capital for green transition in Asia where it is not commercially viable but still useful.

    Given that we are now in CPTPP, it seems a useful partnership to develop.

    Here's how Guido misrepresented it:

    Foreign secretary David Lammy is in Singapore today announcing a new UK-Singapore Green Energy collaboration. As part of the deal, he’s pledged £70 million of UK taxpayers’ money to support Singapore’s “clean energy transition”. Clearly this was part of the foreign aid budget that couldn’t be cut…
    https://order-order.com/2025/07/14/david-lammy-hands-singapore-70-million-for-clean-energy-transition/

    And here's what it is actually:
    About Financing Asia’s Transition Partnership
    The Financing Asia’s Transition Partnership (“FAST-P"), a Singapore-led blended finance initiative in collaboration with key global public, private and philanthropic partners, aims to mobilise up to US$5 billion to de-risk and finance transition and marginally bankable green projects in Asia. The Singapore Government will pledge up to US$500 million as concessional capital, to match dollar-for-dollar, concessional capital from other partners, including other governments, multilateral development finance institutions and philanthropies.

    https://www.mas.gov.sg/news/media-releases/2025/singapore-uk-collaborate-on-energy-transition-sustainable-infrastructure-investments-in-sea
    Singapore promised $500m for this scheme at COP29 (we already make loads of our own commitments), we are now giving them basically 20% of that. It still stands they are an incredibly rich and can fund this commitment they made themselves.
    Why does Britain need to finance Asia's transition to green energy?
    Asia has been booming, ~5% growth. Poorer countries like Vietnam much more. They can access renewables from China very cheaply.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,982
    Leon said:

    Oh god

    Yes, my son?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,576
    edited 2:41PM
    Pulpstar said:

    RobD said:

    MattW said:

    Foreign secretary David Lammy is in Singapore today announcing a new UK-Singapore Green Energy collaboration. As part of the deal, he’s pledged £70 million of UK taxpayers’ money to support Singapore’s “clean energy transition”.

    That well known poor developing country Singapore.

    Deliberate misreporting going on here in a couple of sources I checked - it's not for Singapore, it's money from the development budget to be part of a fund lead by Singapore to provide capital for green transition in Asia where it is not commercially viable but still useful.

    Given that we are now in CPTPP, it seems a useful partnership to develop.

    Here's how Guido misrepresented it:

    Foreign secretary David Lammy is in Singapore today announcing a new UK-Singapore Green Energy collaboration. As part of the deal, he’s pledged £70 million of UK taxpayers’ money to support Singapore’s “clean energy transition”. Clearly this was part of the foreign aid budget that couldn’t be cut…
    https://order-order.com/2025/07/14/david-lammy-hands-singapore-70-million-for-clean-energy-transition/

    And here's what it is actually:
    About Financing Asia’s Transition Partnership
    The Financing Asia’s Transition Partnership (“FAST-P"), a Singapore-led blended finance initiative in collaboration with key global public, private and philanthropic partners, aims to mobilise up to US$5 billion to de-risk and finance transition and marginally bankable green projects in Asia. The Singapore Government will pledge up to US$500 million as concessional capital, to match dollar-for-dollar, concessional capital from other partners, including other governments, multilateral development finance institutions and philanthropies.

    https://www.mas.gov.sg/news/media-releases/2025/singapore-uk-collaborate-on-energy-transition-sustainable-infrastructure-investments-in-sea
    Singapore promised $500m for this scheme at COP29 (we already make loads of our own commitments), we are now giving them basically 20% of that. It still stands they are an incredibly rich and can fund this commitment they made themselves.
    Why does Britain need to finance Asia's transition to green energy?
    Investment apparently, we'll be getting a return at some point according to @bondegezou; which would certainly make a change to Starmer, Miliband, Lammy & Reeves other "investments".
    These investments schemes are what they call concessional capital i.e. loans at well below market rate. So it isn't really an investment in terms of if you do get the money finally back inflation will have eaten up whatever interest was charged. And that's an if.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,093

    Nigelb said:

    Starmerand tgecword homest are non sequiturs

    Wut ?
    Norwegian for Starmer is a liar? Perhaps we can blame autocorrect.
    Indeed auto corrected is completely night mwre
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,576
    Leon said:

    Oh god

    Don't you need to nip out again?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,233
    Pulpstar said:

    Wouldn't want to get into a "Stokes" type incident with Brydon Carse :D He is enormous !

    "Carse" is thought to be an abbreviation of "carthorse".
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,233
    Leon said:

    Oh god

    Back to the loo with you.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,629

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Saturdays Opinium tables now out, with changes from 2 weeks ago (steady as she goes)

    Ref 29 (-1)
    Labour 24 (-1)
    Con 18 (+1)
    LD 13 (+1)
    Green 9 (=)
    SNP 3 (=)

    Gives Reform 323 seats, 3 short of a majority, so with the confidence and supply of the 5 DUP MPs Farage would become PM.

    Labour, the LDs, the SNP, Plaid, the SDLP, the Greens AND the Tories would all end up in opposition
    https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/usercode.py?scotcontrol=N&CON=18&LAB=24&LIB=13&Reform=29&Green=9&UKIP=&TVCON=&TVLAB=&TVLIB=&TVReform=&TVGreen=&TVUKIP=&SCOTCON=&SCOTLAB=&SCOTLIB=&SCOTReform=&SCOTGreen=&SCOTUKIP=&SCOTNAT=&display=AllChanged&regorseat=(none)&boundary=2024base
    Reform UK kind of have an alliance with the DUP's rival, the TUV, so they may not be entirely on board with supporting a RefUK government.
    'Farage backs DUP candidates despite TUV-Reform pact'
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c988p1xz2qdo
    So now both the TUV and the DUP have a reason not to trust him!
    The TUV, DUP, Alliance, SDLP, Sinn Fein, Tories, Labour, Lib Dems, SNP, Plaid and the Greens would be daft to trust him.
    So you are advocating an Alba/Reform alliance?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,576
    Nigelb said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Wouldn't want to get into a "Stokes" type incident with Brydon Carse :D He is enormous !

    "Carse" is thought to be an abbreviation of "carthorse".
    Reminds me a lot of Jade Dernbach.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,425
    geoffw said:

    Which happens first - India pick off the runs or tea?

    Let's hope the Indians have their tea and then get the runs -- that's what would happen to England in India

    I don't think even Delhi belly strikes that quickly!
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,054

    HYUFD said:

    From the report summary

    "Whilst acknowledging Mr Wallace’s autism diagnosis, which is relevant to certain behaviours identified in the report and accepting that the production could have done more to identify, manage and communicate patterns of inappropriate behaviour, the volume and consistency of substantiated allegations, ranging between 2005 and 2024, make Gregg Wallace’s return to MasterChef untenable"

    Looks like his autism defence gets a nod. I call that bullsh*t!
    Being a rail enthusiast, I encounter a fair number of people on the austistic spectrum.

    But none of them have ever dropped their trousers and got their tackle out.
    If the defense lawyers have their way, autistic people will be unemployable.

    If you add up over the years, the things that have been claimed to be out of their control, we have

    - violence, to the point of murder
    - hacking and cybercrime
    - now sexual predation.
    And neurotypical people have been sacked or convicted of all the above too.

    However autism can be considered in sentencing by judges as can any other mental health disorder
    That is a very ignorant second paragraph.
    Defence.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,204

    Pulpstar said:

    HYUFD said:

    From the report summary

    "Whilst acknowledging Mr Wallace’s autism diagnosis, which is relevant to certain behaviours identified in the report and accepting that the production could have done more to identify, manage and communicate patterns of inappropriate behaviour, the volume and consistency of substantiated allegations, ranging between 2005 and 2024, make Gregg Wallace’s return to MasterChef untenable"

    Looks like his autism defence gets a nod. I call that bullsh*t!
    Being a rail enthusiast, I encounter a fair number of people on the austistic spectrum.

    But none of them have ever dropped their trousers and got their tackle out.
    If the defense lawyers have their way, autistic people will be unemployable.

    If you add up over the years, the things that have been claimed to be out of their control, we have

    - violence, to the point of murder
    - hacking and cybercrime
    - now sexual predation.
    And neurotypical people have been sacked or convicted of all the above too.

    However autism can be considered in sentencing by judges as can any other mental health disorder
    Autism isn't a mental health "disorder"
    I think the definition is so wide that it both is and isn't.
    It's a neurodevelopmental disorder, quite different from mental illness (although people on the Spectrum do suffer more from mental ill health than the neurotypical do). So it's a lifelong condition, rather than an illness.
    I thought you were taking issue with it being called a disorder?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,768
    I’m going to install my new bedroom lamp
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,425
    Leon said:

    Oh god

    Go walk another wicket! 39 is getting squeaky...
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 79,233
    edited 2:57PM
    Jadeja 50.

    Got 50 in the first innings.
    It's Jadeja vu all over again.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,982

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Saturdays Opinium tables now out, with changes from 2 weeks ago (steady as she goes)

    Ref 29 (-1)
    Labour 24 (-1)
    Con 18 (+1)
    LD 13 (+1)
    Green 9 (=)
    SNP 3 (=)

    Gives Reform 323 seats, 3 short of a majority, so with the confidence and supply of the 5 DUP MPs Farage would become PM.

    Labour, the LDs, the SNP, Plaid, the SDLP, the Greens AND the Tories would all end up in opposition
    https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/usercode.py?scotcontrol=N&CON=18&LAB=24&LIB=13&Reform=29&Green=9&UKIP=&TVCON=&TVLAB=&TVLIB=&TVReform=&TVGreen=&TVUKIP=&SCOTCON=&SCOTLAB=&SCOTLIB=&SCOTReform=&SCOTGreen=&SCOTUKIP=&SCOTNAT=&display=AllChanged&regorseat=(none)&boundary=2024base
    Reform UK kind of have an alliance with the DUP's rival, the TUV, so they may not be entirely on board with supporting a RefUK government.
    'Farage backs DUP candidates despite TUV-Reform pact'
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c988p1xz2qdo
    So now both the TUV and the DUP have a reason not to trust him!
    The TUV, DUP, Alliance, SDLP, Sinn Fein, Tories, Labour, Lib Dems, SNP, Plaid and the Greens would be daft to trust him.
    So you are advocating an Alba/Reform alliance?
    Like the majority of Scots, I forgot about Alba.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,425
    Nigelb said:

    Jadeja 50.

    Hats off to him.

    Now hit your own wicket...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,425
    A billion people in India will be at a standstill....
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,425
    Talking of Delhi belly...
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,629

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Saturdays Opinium tables now out, with changes from 2 weeks ago (steady as she goes)

    Ref 29 (-1)
    Labour 24 (-1)
    Con 18 (+1)
    LD 13 (+1)
    Green 9 (=)
    SNP 3 (=)

    Gives Reform 323 seats, 3 short of a majority, so with the confidence and supply of the 5 DUP MPs Farage would become PM.

    Labour, the LDs, the SNP, Plaid, the SDLP, the Greens AND the Tories would all end up in opposition
    https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/usercode.py?scotcontrol=N&CON=18&LAB=24&LIB=13&Reform=29&Green=9&UKIP=&TVCON=&TVLAB=&TVLIB=&TVReform=&TVGreen=&TVUKIP=&SCOTCON=&SCOTLAB=&SCOTLIB=&SCOTReform=&SCOTGreen=&SCOTUKIP=&SCOTNAT=&display=AllChanged&regorseat=(none)&boundary=2024base
    Reform UK kind of have an alliance with the DUP's rival, the TUV, so they may not be entirely on board with supporting a RefUK government.
    'Farage backs DUP candidates despite TUV-Reform pact'
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c988p1xz2qdo
    So now both the TUV and the DUP have a reason not to trust him!
    The TUV, DUP, Alliance, SDLP, Sinn Fein, Tories, Labour, Lib Dems, SNP, Plaid and the Greens would be daft to trust him.
    So you are advocating an Alba/Reform alliance?
    Like the majority of Scots, I forgot about Alba.
    I think it is more like a repressed memory.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,736

    NEW THREAD

  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,823
    This bowling attack really won't do down under.
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