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This poll shows most Americans are unaware of the alternative vote system – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,212
edited November 11 in General
This poll shows most Americans are unaware of the alternative vote system – politicalbetting.com

% saying the U.S. electoral system is the best in the world or better than average, in surveys on Nov. 6 | Nov. 2-3U.S. adults: 43% | 41%Democrats: 42% | 45%Independents: 34% | 33%Republicans: 58% | 48%https://t.co/L0wnHuqnx2https://t.co/IFrSNmuhgN pic.twitter.com/XkD9g4ok2e

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  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,420
    First (preference)
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,857
    First?
    What an exciting subject
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,974
    That's probably a pretty low value for all X in "the US [X] is the best in the world or better than average".
  • KnightOutKnightOut Posts: 145
    How many of those who voted 'Unaware' put 'Aware' as their second choice?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,668
    Stop bashing the Bishop.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,012
    Are we any closer to knowing who is going to control the House?

    Surely, a week on, that is the question Americans should be asking themselves. It’s absurd.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    DavidL said:

    Are we any closer to knowing who is going to control the House?

    Surely, a week on, that is the question Americans should be asking themselves. It’s absurd.

    The GOP.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    NEW

    Keir Starmer refuses to back Justin Welby to continue as Archbishop of Canterbury amid questions over his future

    Asked on plane to Samoa whether Welby should step down, PM replies: "That's a matter really for the church, rather than for me."

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1856020197381210241
  • eekeek Posts: 28,585
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    NEW

    Keir Starmer refuses to back Justin Welby to continue as Archbishop of Canterbury amid questions over his future

    Asked on plane to Samoa whether Welby should step down, PM replies: "That's a matter really for the church, rather than for me."

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1856020197381210241

    He's not off to Samoa - he's off to COP29 in Baku

    Is there a less appropriate state in the world than Azerbaijan to hold such a conference?
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,443
    Gladiator II - the goodies win

    (Sorry @TheScreamingEagles )
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,405
    Looks like a win for about average on 3rd or 4th pref to me
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    eek said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    NEW

    Keir Starmer refuses to back Justin Welby to continue as Archbishop of Canterbury amid questions over his future

    Asked on plane to Samoa whether Welby should step down, PM replies: "That's a matter really for the church, rather than for me."

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1856020197381210241

    He's not off to Samoa - he's off to COP29 in Baku

    Is there a less appropriate state in the world than Azerbaijan to hold such a conference?
    Yeah, he acknowledged his mistake straight away.

    plane to Azerbaijan!!! I should know since I'm also on it 😖

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1856020197381210241
  • WildernessPt2WildernessPt2 Posts: 715
    Clearly the correct answer is “better than average”.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,807

    ...
    eek said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    NEW

    Keir Starmer refuses to back Justin Welby to continue as Archbishop of Canterbury amid questions over his future

    Asked on plane to Samoa whether Welby should step down, PM replies: "That's a matter really for the church, rather than for me."

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1856020197381210241

    He's not off to Samoa - he's off to COP29 in Baku

    Is there a less appropriate state in the world than Azerbaijan to hold such a conference?
    Seems quite appropriate to me. Hypocrisy as subtle as a kick in the bollocks never seems in short supply at those things.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,505
    edited November 11
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    eek said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    NEW

    Keir Starmer refuses to back Justin Welby to continue as Archbishop of Canterbury amid questions over his future

    Asked on plane to Samoa whether Welby should step down, PM replies: "That's a matter really for the church, rather than for me."

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1856020197381210241

    He's not off to Samoa - he's off to COP29 in Baku

    Is there a less appropriate state in the world than Azerbaijan to hold such a conference?
    Yeah, he acknowledged his mistake straight away.

    plane to Azerbaijan!!! I should know since I'm also on it 😖

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1856020197381210241
    To be fair, past couple of months Starmer (and by extension the lobby journos) have been travelling more than Flint Knappers Weekly travel correspondent, so hard to keep up where they are.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    algarkirk said:

    First?
    What an exciting subject

    Because the next big election is the Holyrood election in May 2026 I will have to run regular threads on AV to fill the gap.
  • eekeek Posts: 28,585
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    algarkirk said:

    First?
    What an exciting subject

    Because the next big election is the Holyrood election in May 2026 I will have to run regular threads on AV to fill the gap.
    Surely there will be some Scottish subsamples we can over analysis...
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,668
    Do Americans not have armistice day?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,505
    edited November 11
    Are basically all the other world leaders skipping COP because of its location or that there hasn't been enough progress made for an announcement they can do?

    Apparently lots of nations are calling for reparations, i mean climate support, Starmer is going to be cornered again like in Samoa isn't he.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 28,394
    edited November 11
    These REBEL Politicians Changed Modern Britain Forever | IEA Book Club

    In this IEA Book Club event, Sir Vernon Bogdanor discusses his new book "Making The Weather: Six Politicians Who Changed Modern Britain" with IEA Executive Director Tom Clougherty. Bogdanor examines how certain politicians have shaped Britain's political landscape, focusing particularly on three figures: Aneurin Bevan, Enoch Powell, and Keith Joseph. The discussion explores how these individuals challenged the prevailing consensus of their times and influenced British politics far beyond their immediate careers.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbUzgWZcLeE

    One hour interview with Big Vern about half of his new book. What's the connection between this thread, Roy Jenkins and Nigel Farage?
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492
    I'm pretty sure that there was a referendum/ballot initiative in Alaska, and they decided to stop using there Ranked chose voting, and the 6 other states that were voting to all introduce it all voted to reject it, Did I miss something? where is it 'growing'?
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,974
    Casino_Royale said:

    Do Americans not have armistice day?

    Not really, they have Memorial Day in late May.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    BigRich said:

    I'm pretty sure that there was a referendum/ballot initiative in Alaska, and they decided to stop using there Ranked chose voting, and the 6 other states that were voting to all introduce it all voted to reject it, Did I miss something? where is it 'growing'?

    DC.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,505
    edited November 11
    Casino_Royale said:

    Do Americans not have armistice day?

    Veterans Day...

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-veterans-day-arlington-remembrance-b2644984.html
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,668
    WildernessPt2 said:

    Clearly the correct answer is “better than average”.

    Logically, yes. If you take the average electoral system in the world (many of which are entirely phoney) then the US is better than that average.

    I'm not sure who'd top out.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864
    edited November 11
    If the US had AV Bernie Sanders may well have run as a Socialist candidate in 2016, 2020 and 2024 with his second preferences mostly going to Clinton, Biden and Harris. Nikki Haley may also have run as an Independent conservative this year with her second preferences mostly going to Trump but with a significant minority for Harris too
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,668
    FPT I agree with @Andy_JS that it was another superb article by Matthew Syed in the ST yesterday.

    I'm starting to wonder if I agree with him that the Cameron administration will go down as one of the worst post WWII governments.

    And I say that as someone who personally was a huge fan of David Cameron.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    NEW

    Keir Starmer refuses to back Justin Welby to continue as Archbishop of Canterbury amid questions over his future

    Asked on plane to Samoa whether Welby should step down, PM replies: "That's a matter really for the church, rather than for me."

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1856020197381210241

    As an atheist I am not really sure Starmer should express a view even if he has one. Though no doubt he would prefer Welby to go given he is on the more conservative evangelical wing of the C of E (despite his support for Starmer on opposition to the Rwanda scheme of the last government) and be replaced by a liberal Catholic
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,213
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    eek said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    NEW

    Keir Starmer refuses to back Justin Welby to continue as Archbishop of Canterbury amid questions over his future

    Asked on plane to Samoa whether Welby should step down, PM replies: "That's a matter really for the church, rather than for me."

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1856020197381210241

    He's not off to Samoa - he's off to COP29 in Baku

    Is there a less appropriate state in the world than Azerbaijan to hold such a conference?
    Yeah, he acknowledged his mistake straight away.

    plane to Azerbaijan!!! I should know since I'm also on it 😖

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1856020197381210241
    To be fair, past couple of months Starmer (and by extension the lobby journos) have been travelling more than Flint Knappers Weekly travel correspondent, so hard to keep up where they are.
    That’s got to be the best reason to be a prominent politician. Travelling the world.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 28,394
    Casino_Royale said:

    FPT I agree with @Andy_JS that it was another superb article by Matthew Syed in the ST yesterday.

    I'm starting to wonder if I agree with him that the Cameron administration will go down as one of the worst post WWII governments.

    And I say that as someone who personally was a huge fan of David Cameron.

    David Cameron was our worst Prime Minister since Lord North. Although it is faintly embarrassing to have to exclude two of his successors as sui generis.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,112
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    algarkirk said:

    First?
    What an exciting subject

    Because the next big election is the Holyrood election in May 2026 I will have to run regular threads on AV to fill the gap.
    AV Referendum 2011

    No 2 AV: 68%
    Yes 2 AV: 32%

    :innocent:
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,505
    New thread? NOT ANOTHER ONE.....
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,668
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Do Americans not have armistice day?

    Veterans Day...

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-veterans-day-arlington-remembrance-b2644984.html
    Bit wet. Doesn't have the grandeur of Armstice Day.

    Wear a poppy, you flaccid Yanks.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    New thread? NOT ANOTHER ONE.....

    Premature posting by yours truly.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,668
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    New thread? NOT ANOTHER ONE.....

    Premature posting by yours truly.
    Do you suffer from premature ethreadulation?
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,036
    edited November 11
    We did have Armistice Day, and still do, a little bit: For example, Washington state's ferry boats are supposed to toot their horns at 11:11 AM (Pacific time) today.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,942
    TimS said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    eek said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    NEW

    Keir Starmer refuses to back Justin Welby to continue as Archbishop of Canterbury amid questions over his future

    Asked on plane to Samoa whether Welby should step down, PM replies: "That's a matter really for the church, rather than for me."

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1856020197381210241

    He's not off to Samoa - he's off to COP29 in Baku

    Is there a less appropriate state in the world than Azerbaijan to hold such a conference?
    Yeah, he acknowledged his mistake straight away.

    plane to Azerbaijan!!! I should know since I'm also on it 😖

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1856020197381210241
    To be fair, past couple of months Starmer (and by extension the lobby journos) have been travelling more than Flint Knappers Weekly travel correspondent, so hard to keep up where they are.
    That’s got to be the best reason to be a prominent politician. Travelling the world.
    Business travel is grim, unless it's a few weeks/months in a cool city doing a special project. The constant pissing about between Westminster, constituency, foreign trips does not appeal at all.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    *Just sits back and double checks the police force Howard Webb rose to the rank of sergeant in during the 90s.*

    https://x.com/Knox_Harrington/status/1855977195895713878
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,668
    Eabhal said:

    TimS said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    eek said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    NEW

    Keir Starmer refuses to back Justin Welby to continue as Archbishop of Canterbury amid questions over his future

    Asked on plane to Samoa whether Welby should step down, PM replies: "That's a matter really for the church, rather than for me."

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1856020197381210241

    He's not off to Samoa - he's off to COP29 in Baku

    Is there a less appropriate state in the world than Azerbaijan to hold such a conference?
    Yeah, he acknowledged his mistake straight away.

    plane to Azerbaijan!!! I should know since I'm also on it 😖

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1856020197381210241
    To be fair, past couple of months Starmer (and by extension the lobby journos) have been travelling more than Flint Knappers Weekly travel correspondent, so hard to keep up where they are.
    That’s got to be the best reason to be a prominent politician. Travelling the world.
    Business travel is grim, unless it's a few weeks/months in a cool city doing a special project. The constant pissing about between Westminster, constituency, foreign trips does not appeal at all.
    Business travel (which I'm doing right now) is shit.

    There are zero perks anymore, a lot more work, and a real nightmare claiming any expenses back.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956

    NEW THREAD

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