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Brace yourselves, we're going to be talking about electoral reform a lot going forward
Brace yourselves, we're going to be talking about electoral reform a lot going forward– politicalbetting.com
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I hope not.
Plenty of people suddenly deciding now is not the time after all I imagine, in a Tredeau-ish conversion.
Parrs Wood High School Manchester.
2. Lucy Powell and Lisa Nandy.
That gives Labour two terms and ten years to push through its current plans, avoids another dreaded referendum, and introduces a fairer system before the Tories are likely to have resolved their identity crisis and be back in the game, and probably at the point where voters have had enough of big majority Labour.
If by some miracle there’s pressure to go faster, then do STV for local government in the meantime.
That’s what Labour should do, if they took a mature long-term view.
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Any changes to the electoral system are enacted at the next but one election. Assuming that the sitting government still agrees with them.
It's not obviously on their website or twitter.
Tae think again.
Reform could get out the way of the Con fights whilst the Conservatives stand down in Reform's seats and 74 Labour strongholds where Reform is second and the Tories didn't win in 2019.
It's on the list of things that aren't going to happen but it's more likely than Labour introducing any sort of electoral reform & it's still very very likely SKS is PM after the next election whatever anyone does.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/08/james-timpson-is-the-most-dangerous-man-in-britain/
I've only seen him talk about things in one clip, but he seemed pretty realistic about things, not take a chance on anyone idealistic.
Yes he might fail but I wish him well and he deserves to succeed.
Only 1-in-10 prison sentences are for so-called “first-time offenders”, sentences hardly ever passed down for small misunderstandings or harmless misbehaviour. More than half of the prison population are there for violent or sexual offences – to say nothing of the burglars, robbers, knife carriers, or drug traffickers that some are all too quick to erroneously classify as “non-violent”.
We also know that nearly two-thirds (63 per cent) of prison sentences were handed out to criminals with seven or more previous convictions or cautions – with more than half (53 per cent) going to criminals with 11 or more previous convictions or cautions.
The question is how to change this. Something isn't working at the moment.
For completeness here's the other Reform 2nds not facing Labour strongholds
Reform 2nd to Labour, Conservative held 2019
Whitehaven and Workington
Kingston-Upon-Hull West and Haltemprice
Wakefield & Rothwell
Newton Aycliffe and Spennymoor
Leigh and Atherton
Bridgend
Telford
Blackpool South
Stoke on Trent central
Thurrock
Dover & Deal
Spen Valley
Great Grimsby and Cleethorpes
Montgomeryshire and Glyndwr
Amber Valley
Reform 2nd to the Tories
North East Cambridgeshire
South Holland and the Deepings
Maldon
Brentwood and Ongar
Louth and Horncastle
Rayleigh and Wickford
Isle of Wight East
Hornchurch and Upminster
Reform 2nds to Labour (74)
Not sure which amused me more on that list, Hull West or Telford.
Can't fault the other two choices.
Having seen the film in its original form with the comemntary it is of course now impossible for me to ay whether it is understandable without as when watching the later versions I already have the commentary in my mind.
Alot of Reform voters were as anti-Tory as anti-Labour.
Nope you haven't got it. See @TimS explanation it is better than mine. Think of it this way in half the seats there weren't NFP or Macron candidates to vote for. Here is an example:
Seat 1 Macron 1, RN 1
Seat 2 NFP 1, RN 1
RN has twice the vote of each, but has twice the opportunity. The other two only have half the opportunity.
Your logic is flawed by comparing her vote to theirs. You are comparing apples to pears. It is like saying Corbyn did an appalling job winning his seat compared to Labour because he got a lot less votes across the whole country than Labour. That is clearly nonsense as Corbyn beat Labour and he wasn't standing anywhere else. It is a daft statement.
Your logic is screwed.
Never seen him before in my life, but he knows me. He's probably about my age. He was trying to talk to me, asking if I was going to London, to which I said "yes" to, but I was too confused and busy on emails on my phone plus trying to get the train that left in 3 minutes time. So I was awkward smiling and not really making eye contact with him.
Somewhat unsettling! And I still can't work it out now.
(*obviously it was my real name and not my pb handle)
"Electoral Reform" covers a multitude of sins and while GB News has been bleating on about the inequity of the current system since Friday afternoon, it's mainly about how unfair the system is to Farage and Reform about whom I couldn't give a Tice.
If we're going to talk about electoral reform, we also need to talk about political reform. Changing the voting system achieves nothing if the political system and structure remains the same. We all know (and I say this as an LD) everyone wants the system which works best for them rather than the system which works best.
If it weren't for the fact talking about changing the political system would be as self-indulgent as talking about leaving the European Union, it would be a debate worth having but it's not the debate the public want to have. The public want the other huge problems of the country properly addressed. Get those solved and we can talk about STV ad nauseam and ad infinitum.
Oddest one I've had in years was the (presumably) drunk guy outside a railway station who asked me if I was jewish. I've no idea if he asked everyone that or just me.
But there is a case for FPTP as we did it last week. There were (I believe) two very strong collective wishes: to get rid of the Tories (75%+ agreement) and a wish for a government that was reasonably centrist. (Lab + LD + most Tories + most non voters). The latter is harder to prove, but there you are. As Reform voters wanted simple answers to complex problems, there is no point is worrying about them except that 85% of us didn't vote for them.
FPTP did the job, about as well as possible. I think AV would do it slightly better, but most other systems would do it worse.
Tories have to either absorb or destroy RefUK. A weird compromise is the worst of all worlds.
Microsoft has ordered staff in China to swap their Android devices for iPhones amid mounting security concerns.
The US technology giant has told thousands of employees in China that they must make the switch by September, becoming the latest company to tighten up protections in the country.
The move comes as Microsoft attempts to tighten up staff security after a string of cyber security blunders.
Chinese state-sponsored hackers were able to access email accounts of government employees and US companies last year after a flaw in its Microsoft Exchange software.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/07/08/microsoft-staff-use-iphones-china-security-fears/
*ducks form the turnip heading my way....*
I agree last Thursday was all about giving the order of the boot to the Conservatives from Government but not from existence. The verdict was nuanced enough to work fairly well - Labour didn't win too big, the Conservatives didn't lose too big. As to the lessons both (and other) parties will draw, that's for the future.
To achieve the expulsion of the Conservatives meant a number of options for voters - Labour, LD, Green or Reform. The option chosen varied, the effect of the choices varied. In a few instances, the sitting Conservative survived becayse the options chosen weren't the right ones but in 250 instances the local voters got it right.
That wasn't down to the voting system but to the options available and those trying to put forward the options.
Wonderful. Wonderful. Wonderful.
As it is, he’s going to find bobbing up and down trying to catch the speakers eye, from some uncomfortable seat at the back with his handful of colleagues, quite humiliating given the prominence he’s used to.
My wife's theory is he's someone I went to school or college with who's fallen on hard times.
These things come out the blue and can somewhat flummox you.
It made me realise I'm either a lot more memorable than I think I am, or that some people are scarily good with names and faces. This was at least 20 years after the fact.
FPTP is the best system because it's the most human.
This is beyond hilarious.
The last thing I thought would probably stick around longer than people generally thought on here/X was the Ukraine war and I was right on that.
Anyone who can can do that in the face of the barbarian horde that makes up the UK voter deserves to win, completely regardless of what % vote they got in totality.
The case for FPTP is remarkably strong.
Horses win races even though the others run nearly as fast. You still have to win it
The more the merrier. Real life is about working with people you don't like to get things done. If the Tories are the thing that gets STV done, then fantastic!
That is of course assuming the Tories are actually real. Some of their 2019 intake may also have been AI - that Jill Mortimer never went to Hartlepool as an example...
It is amazing what people can retain randomly even when slugging the rum at 7am.
Landed in Moscow. Looking forward to further deepening the Special and Privileged Strategic Partnership between our nations, especially in futuristic areas of cooperation. Stronger ties between our nations will greatly benefit our people.
https://x.com/narendramodi/status/1810291414623748200
Modi is a truly nasty piece of work.
I was the one doing the disturbing calling out of her full name. She gave me a big hug.
We had both become connected to the NE by marriage.
We've met up on a couple of occasions since.
Biden will be holding a “big boy press conference” according to his press secretary.
What a hilarious country America has become!
You could have a Huawei phone, with a HiSilicon chipset, and the Huawei app store, and turn on every security feature, don't install anything but the Microsoft Authenticator app, and remove every other app shipped with the phone. You would still have to implictly trust Huawei as the phone manufacturer, the designer of the key chips, and as the provider of the app store and all scanning and signing of apps. That's the issue for Microsoft, not side-loading or third-party app stores, both of which they could easily disable with their MDM software.
Edit. Almost exact snap!
Germany seem to have a reasonable comprise where they have these historic alliances which means you are pretty certain what you are getting if the right centre or right left win and they will last the parliament.
The 2010 coalition was sorted in just a few days.
At the declaration there is a guy on the stage and he got 11k votes
Imagine the fun if we had a proper voting system! Mr Cronly could have won. Already we had 11k people voting for a cypher, a person who literally just exists on a ballot paper.
In a democracy this is a Bad Thing. Because i can practically guarantee that almost all of those 11k people thought they were voting for Nigel Farage. And they weren't...