Nothing like having the courage of your convictions......
New Scottish Tory chairman predicts Holyrood power within a decade Richard Keen claims the Conservatives can be the main beneficiaries from a collapse in support for the SNP in the wake of 'no' vote in the independence referendum
Nothing like having the courage of your convictions......
New Scottish Tory chairman predicts Holyrood power within a decade Richard Keen claims the Conservatives can be the main beneficiaries from a collapse in support for the SNP in the wake of 'no' vote in the independence referendum
Mphm, that's interesting, though the headline and your summary, strictly speaking, need Mr Keen's own qualifier "as the largest party in a coalition".
I can't see them being large enough even on that timescale to form a majority with the LDs.
However, it should be noted that Labour and the Tories have proven quite happy to get into bed together, as with Stirling Council and South Ayrshire - at least for now. So does Mr Keen see himself as being in power with Labour holding half the cabinet seats? Really? How long would that last? With someone who gets over half a million a year, according to that not very socialist newspaper the Scotsman? It would certainly be a different political scene.
Nothing like having the courage of your convictions......
New Scottish Tory chairman predicts Holyrood power within a decade Richard Keen claims the Conservatives can be the main beneficiaries from a collapse in support for the SNP in the wake of 'no' vote in the independence referendum
Mphm, that's interesting, though the headline and your summary, strictly speaking, need Mr Keen's own qualifier "as the largest party in a coalition".
I can't see them being large enough even on that timescale to form a majority with the LDs.
However, it should be noted that Labour and the Tories have proven quite happy to get into bed together, as with Stirling Council and South Ayrshire - at least for now. So does Mr Keen see himself as being in power with Labour holding half the cabinet seats? Really? How long would that last? With someone who gets over half a million a year, according to that not very socialist newspaper the Scotsman? It would certainly be a different political scene.
Well that's an odd post. For years we've had PBnats telling us about the superior forms of government NOTB through PR, Salmond himself had a sort of informal alliance with the dreaded tories that kept him in power from 2007. So while a red\blue council might be a bit left of field it's hardly unique under PR. Or is it only the Nats who can do strange tie ups ?
But for some sections, it's their future you're dealing with, so I don't deliberately provoke them.
It is exactly typical of the smallness of nats, however, that merely taking the mild mickey out of them is considered provocation worthy of an instant effusion of - admittedly fairly insipid - bile.
This mentality is of a piece with that poll Hannan blogged about in the DT, in which 70% of Labour voters wanted a 50% top rate tax even if they knew it raised no more money.
If applied to the votes cast in Scotland in 2010, where 83% of votes were cast for socialist parties, that poll implies a majority of Scots wants the state to deliberately destroy the wealth of others, because that majority envies them.
So north of our border we have a mentality of malicious envy, a fervent belief that someone somewhere is doing them down, and an essentially unreconstructed 1950s Marxist political alignment. Taken together, these flaws tell me that Scotland is not only unfit to be independent, but also unfit to be in a political union with any western country; including, of course, the one it is presently in.
Merely twitting nats by reminding them of the career of Andy Stewart strikes me as a pretty restrained approach. But since we are stuck with them for at least the next 50 years or so, perhaps I should back off a bit in the interests of PB harmony.
So I will say nae muir -- er, sorry, I meant "no more" on this matter. Unless I should burst otherwise.
Is there an insect loose in PB? I can hear a high pitched whine.
No doubt the chickens will get it.....cluck! cluck!
Ah, you've decide to become a brave bettor have you? Good stuff. What's your prediction for indy turnout and Yes/No proportion? We'll see if we can frame a bet or two around them.
I was one of those who posted my prediction yesterday - as invited to by the thread header - Yes between 30-40.
Did you post yours?
If so you are a district minority among our Nationalist friends.....
PB 'polls' on Indy are about as interesting as Cardinal O'Brien's views on gay marriage. I've already hoisted my PB flag by having several bets on the referendum, incl. two that Yes will be over 40%. I'm happy to offer you evens on that.
FPT
FAO CarlottaVance
You must have missed this; I'm sure you wouldn't have scuttled off, or wished to give the impression of chickendom.
Yet curiously I can't remember many right wingers endlessly linking to articles by them? Not to worry, I feel sure that any Hodges or Rentoul article from now on will be treated with the utmost seriousness.
Nothing like having the courage of your convictions......
New Scottish Tory chairman predicts Holyrood power within a decade Richard Keen claims the Conservatives can be the main beneficiaries from a collapse in support for the SNP in the wake of 'no' vote in the independence referendum
Mphm, that's interesting, though the headline and your summary, strictly speaking, need Mr Keen's own qualifier "as the largest party in a coalition".
I can't see them being large enough even on that timescale to form a majority with the LDs.
However, it should be noted that Labour and the Tories have proven quite happy to get into bed together, as with Stirling Council and South Ayrshire - at least for now. So does Mr Keen see himself as being in power with Labour holding half the cabinet seats? Really? How long would that last? With someone who gets over half a million a year, according to that not very socialist newspaper the Scotsman? It would certainly be a different political scene.
It's thought that Mr Keen was the 'senior Tory' who was recently briefing how useless Darling is. Better together!
But for some sections, it's their future you're dealing with, so I don't deliberately provoke them.
Merely twitting nats by reminding them of the career of Andy Stewart strikes me as a pretty restrained approach. But since we are stuck with them for at least the next 50 years or so, perhaps I should back off a bit in the interests of PB harmony.
So I will say nae muir -- er, sorry, I meant "no more" on this matter. Unless I should burst otherwise.
Is there an insect loose in PB? I can hear a high pitched whine.
No doubt the chickens will get it.....cluck! cluck!
Ah, you've decide to become a brave bettor have you? Good stuff. What's your prediction for indy turnout and Yes/No proportion? We'll see if we can frame a bet or two around them.
I was one of those who posted my prediction yesterday - as invited to by the thread header - Yes between 30-40.
Did you post yours?
If so you are a district minority among our Nationalist friends.....
PB 'polls' on Indy are about as interesting as Cardinal O'Brien's views on gay marriage. I've already hoisted my PB flag by having several bets on the referendum, incl. two that Yes will be over 40%. I'm happy to offer you evens on that.
FPT
FAO CarlottaVance
You must have missed this; I'm sure you wouldn't have scuttled off, or wished to give the impression of chickendom.
As you won't condescend to share how you think the Yes vote will end up, you'll understand why I won't be taking up your ungenerous offer.
Now if you'll excuse me the McChickens need feeding....
But for some sections, it's their future you're dealing with, so I don't deliberately provoke them.
Merely twitting nats by reminding them of the career of Andy Stewart strikes me as a pretty restrained approach. But since we are stuck with them for at least the next 50 years or so, perhaps I should back off a bit in the interests of PB harmony.
So I will say nae muir -- er, sorry, I meant "no more" on this matter. Unless I should burst otherwise.
Is there an insect loose in PB? I can hear a high pitched whine.
No doubt the chickens will get it.....cluck! cluck!
Ah, you've decide to become a brave bettor have you? Good stuff. What's your prediction for indy turnout and Yes/No proportion? We'll see if we can frame a bet or two around them.
I was one of those who posted my prediction yesterday - as invited to by the thread header - Yes between 30-40.
Did you post yours?
If so you are a district minority among our Nationalist friends.....
PB 'polls' on Indy are about as interesting as Cardinal O'Brien's views on gay marriage. I've already hoisted my PB flag by having several bets on the referendum, incl. two that Yes will be over 40%. I'm happy to offer you evens on that.
FPT
FAO CarlottaVance
You must have missed this; I'm sure you wouldn't have scuttled off, or wished to give the impression of chickendom.
As you won't condescend to share how you think the Yes vote will end up, you'll understand why I won't be taking up your ungenerous offer.
Now if you'll excuse me the McChickens need feeding....
Nothing like having the courage of your convictions......
New Scottish Tory chairman predicts Holyrood power within a decade Richard Keen claims the Conservatives can be the main beneficiaries from a collapse in support for the SNP in the wake of 'no' vote in the independence referendum
Mphm, that's interesting, though the headline and your summary, strictly speaking, need Mr Keen's own qualifier "as the largest party in a coalition".
I can't see them being large enough even on that timescale to form a majority with the LDs.
However, it should be noted that Labour and the Tories have proven quite happy to get into bed together, as with Stirling Council and South Ayrshire - at least for now. So does Mr Keen see himself as being in power with Labour holding half the cabinet seats? Really? How long would that last? With someone who gets over half a million a year, according to that not very socialist newspaper the Scotsman? It would certainly be a different political scene.
It's thought that Mr Keen was the 'senior Tory' who was recently briefing how useless Darling is. Better together!
That would be the same Darling Salmond wanted to keep as UK CoE in a rainbow alliance in 2010 but now assures us is useless ?
Nothing like having the courage of your convictions......
New Scottish Tory chairman predicts Holyrood power within a decade Richard Keen claims the Conservatives can be the main beneficiaries from a collapse in support for the SNP in the wake of 'no' vote in the independence referendum
Mphm, that's interesting, though the headline and your summary, strictly speaking, need Mr Keen's own qualifier "as the largest party in a coalition".
I can't see them being large enough even on that timescale to form a majority with the LDs.
However, it should be noted that Labour and the Tories have proven quite happy to get into bed together, as with Stirling Council and South Ayrshire - at least for now. So does Mr Keen see himself as being in power with Labour holding half the cabinet seats? Really? How long would that last? With someone who gets over half a million a year, according to that not very socialist newspaper the Scotsman? It would certainly be a different political scene.
It's thought that Mr Keen was the 'senior Tory' who was recently briefing how useless Darling is. Better together!
That would be the same Darling Salmond wanted to keep as UK CoE in a rainbow alliance in 2010 but now assures us is useless ?
I'm pretty sure he thought he was useless then, but noses must be held. You currently seem to be relishing the idea of a SLab-SCon coalition; how many clothes pegs would be required for that?
here in England we are rejoicing at the success of our Scottish brethern and their huge contribution to our great nation
much as I'm sure all of you NOTB were celebrating the suucess of all those medals won by english public school alumni in 2012.
I support all Team GB success whether I'm residing in Hertfordshire or Auchentennach - Pie-tastic !!
BTW .... and apologies if already discussed but Scottish islands have been placed first (Harris and Lewis) fourth (Orkney) and ninth (Mull) in the top ten of European islands :
Nothing like having the courage of your convictions......
New Scottish Tory chairman predicts Holyrood power within a decade Richard Keen claims the Conservatives can be the main beneficiaries from a collapse in support for the SNP in the wake of 'no' vote in the independence referendum
Mphm, that's interesting, though the headline and your summary, strictly speaking, need Mr Keen's own qualifier "as the largest party in a coalition".
I can't see them being large enough even on that timescale to form a majority with the LDs.
It's thought that Mr Keen was the 'senior Tory' who was recently briefing how useless Darling is. Better together!
That would be the same Darling Salmond wanted to keep as UK CoE in a rainbow alliance in 2010 but now assures us is useless ?
I'm pretty sure he thought he was useless then, but noses must be held. You currently seem to be relishing the idea of a SLab-SCon coalition; how many clothes pegs would be required for that?
Not that concerned divvie it's a function of PR systems that the extremes end up in bed every so often. SNP and Lab are at extremes on another measure but team up. Germany has a black\red government and not for the first time.bar tribalism I just don't get why you make an issue of red\blue when you're happy with nat\tory if it suits you. Parties team up according to the numbers, that's politics.
But for some sections, it's their future you're dealing with, so I don't deliberately provoke them.
Merely twitting nats by reminding them of the career of Andy Stewart strikes me as a pretty restrained approach. But since we are stuck with them for at least the next 50 years or so, perhaps I should back off a bit in the interests of PB harmony.
So I will say nae muir -- er, sorry, I meant "no more" on this matter. Unless I should burst otherwise.
Is there an insect loose in PB? I can hear a high pitched whine.
No doubt the chickens will get it.....cluck! cluck!
Ah, you've decide to become a brave bettor have you? Good stuff. What's your prediction for indy turnout and Yes/No proportion? We'll see if we can frame a bet or two around them.
I was one of those who posted my prediction yesterday - as invited to by the thread header - Yes between 30-40.
Did you post yours?
If so you are a district minority among our Nationalist friends.....
PB 'polls' on Indy are about as interesting as Cardinal O'Brien's views on gay marriage. I've already hoisted my PB flag by having several bets on the referendum, incl. two that Yes will be over 40%. I'm happy to offer you evens on that.
FPT
FAO CarlottaVance
You must have missed this; I'm sure you wouldn't have scuttled off, or wished to give the impression of chickendom.
As you won't condescend to share how you think the Yes vote will end up, you'll understand why I won't be taking up your ungenerous offer.
Now if you'll excuse me the McChickens need feeding....
How does it go again? Oh yes, cluck, cluck.
is your prediction for the Yes share greater than 50%?
Nothing like having the courage of your convictions......
New Scottish Tory chairman predicts Holyrood power within a decade Richard Keen claims the Conservatives can be the main beneficiaries from a collapse in support for the SNP in the wake of 'no' vote in the independence referendum
Mphm, that's interesting, though the headline and your summary, strictly speaking, need Mr Keen's own qualifier "as the largest party in a coalition".
I can't see them being large enough even on that timescale to form a majority with the LDs.
However, it should be noted that Labour and the Tories have proven quite happy to get into bed together, as with Stirling Council and South Ayrshire - at least for now. So does Mr Keen see himself as being in power with Labour holding half the cabinet seats? Really? How long would that last? With someone who gets over half a million a year, according to that not very socialist newspaper the Scotsman? It would certainly be a different political scene.
It's thought that Mr Keen was the 'senior Tory' who was recently briefing how useless Darling is. Better together!
That would be the same Darling Salmond wanted to keep as UK CoE in a rainbow alliance in 2010 but now assures us is useless ?
I'm pretty sure he thought he was useless then, but noses must be held. You currently seem to be relishing the idea of a SLab-SCon coalition; how many clothes pegs would be required for that?
Mr. Slackbladder, it's interesting to consider which of those bets would be better value.
We still have little idea about pace.
Actually, we may. Midway through the first test, people were worried that the cars might be five or six seconds down on last year's cars. Now it looks like one-lap pace might be faster than race pace last year. but not as fast (yet) as one-lap pace.
(One lap pace is nearly always faster than race pace).
Therefore we can't tell the difference between the teams, but it looks as though the cars will still be fast. Which will be good.
(I hope to goodness I read the times correctly...)
What has Jeb been up to since he stopped being governor? It's been a while. He is supposed to be a lot smarter than his brother (admittedly not a very high bar).
For the reasons JackW set out on the previous thread it is very, very difficult to see a path to victory for the GOP candidate without Florida.
Maybe a hispanic who can bring some states that have drifted away back into play? And a woman to take on Hilary? There are so many boxes the GOP have to tick to even get in the game that it is tricky.
Susana Martinez, governor of New Mexico, ticks more of these boxes than most but I have no idea if she is smart enough.
Hillary is, as all good pb-ers know, an acknowledged "juicer". The fact that this scandal has remained hidden hitherto does not mean it will not, inevitably, re-emerge if and when she makes another bid for the presidency.
Bet accordingly.
Acknowledged by whom? The National Examiner? Drudge Report?
What has Jeb been up to since he stopped being governor? It's been a while. He is supposed to be a lot smarter than his brother (admittedly not a very high bar).
For the reasons JackW set out on the previous thread it is very, very difficult to see a path to victory for the GOP candidate without Florida.
Maybe a hispanic who can bring some states that have drifted away back into play? And a woman to take on Hilary? There are so many boxes the GOP have to tick to even get in the game that it is tricky.
Susana Martinez, governor of New Mexico, ticks more of these boxes than most but I have no idea if she is smart enough.
Jeb would be a perfectly good candidate as long as he repudiates his brother's legacy, but it appears family loyalty prevents him from doing that.
The idea that Hispanics just want someone of their ethnic group standing is a bit insulting. The polls show Rubio is not any higher in the polls among them than other Republicans. I'm sure they'd like a Hispanic up there, but they also want someone who agrees with them on the issues. Focus groups show they are most concerned about access to healthcare, unemployment, income inequality and immigration reform. What do the GOP have to offer them on any of those issues?
Haven't heard much from my US moles lately, but what I have confirms my initial impression that Bridgegate isn't going away in a hurry. It is probably terminal for Christie's chances, not least because there was substantial opposition to him in the GOP long before the scandal broke. He might have carried the Party with him if he had held out the promise of a win over Clinton, but that selling point has evaporated now. He's a lay, if you can find anybody to back him.
I pretty much agree with everything else you say. Add Scott Walker to your list of possibles. He's travelling along nicely just under the radar.
On the Democrat side, the only person who can stop Hillary is Hillary. If her health holds, and she wants it, the ticket is hers.
Sensible suggestion to back a woman as next Potus, Absent Hillary, there are decent female candidates on both sides of the House - so it's a decent value bet.
Like you, I'm keeping my powder dry on the main Blue v Red contest. Superficially, it looks like a GOP year, but the demographics hamper them, and their visceral hatred of Obama could work against them. He's not standing.
Now I understand why a handful of left-wing posters attempt to silence anyone trying to raise awareness about the appalling level of child abuse in this country:
But for some sections, it's their future you're dealing with, so I don't deliberately provoke them.
Merely twitting nats by reminding them of the career of Andy Stewart strikes me as a pretty restrained approach. But since we are stuck with them for at least the next 50 years or so, perhaps I should back off a bit in the interests of PB harmony.
So I will say nae muir -- er, sorry, I meant "no more" on this matter. Unless I should burst otherwise.
Is there an insect loose in PB? I can hear a high pitched whine.
No doubt the chickens will get it.....cluck! cluck!
Ah, you've decide to become a brave bettor have you? Good stuff. What's your prediction for indy turnout and Yes/No proportion? We'll see if we can frame a bet or two around them.
I was one of those who posted my prediction yesterday - as invited to by the thread header - Yes between 30-40.
Did you post yours?
If so you are a district minority among our Nationalist friends.....
PB 'polls' on Indy are about as interesting as Cardinal O'Brien's views on gay marriage. I've already hoisted my PB flag by having several bets on the referendum, incl. two that Yes will be over 40%. I'm happy to offer you evens on that.
FPT
FAO CarlottaVance
You must have missed this; I'm sure you wouldn't have scuttled off, or wished to give the impression of chickendom.
As you won't condescend to share how you think the Yes vote will end up, you'll understand why I won't be taking up your ungenerous offer.
Now if you'll excuse me the McChickens need feeding....
How does it go again? Oh yes, cluck, cluck.
is your prediction for the Yes share greater than 50%?
One cluck for yes, two clucks for no.....
Since I've bet on Yes to win, obviously greater than 50%. Again, I'm happy to offer the 4/9 on No that Pulpstar & Tim took.
There's no shame in admitting that though you've posted 1000s of times on a political betting site you've never had a political bet in your puff. I can see why it might be a bit scary.
Hillary is, as all good pb-ers know, an acknowledged "juicer". The fact that this scandal has remained hidden hitherto does not mean it will not, inevitably, re-emerge if and when she makes another bid for the presidency.
Bet accordingly.
Acknowledged by whom? The National Examiner? Drudge Report?
By anyone with sense. We went over this years ago, on pb. You do understand the precise and unusual meaning of "juicer"? I do not believe Americans will vote for such a person as president.
Urban Dictionary has seven definitions. One of which is an alcoholic, another of which could be interpreted as wringing as much cash as possible from a job or role. Is it one of those? I can't see it being related to "tight, cut-off capri pants"
Hillary is, as all good pb-ers know, an acknowledged "juicer". The fact that this scandal has remained hidden hitherto does not mean it will not, inevitably, re-emerge if and when she makes another bid for the presidency.
Bet accordingly.
Acknowledged by whom? The National Examiner? Drudge Report?
By anyone with sense. We went over this years ago, on pb. You do understand the precise and unusual meaning of "juicer"? I do not believe Americans will vote for such a person as president.
I give up. The internet says booze, or anabolic steroids. What's the answer?
Nothing like having the courage of your convictions......
New Scottish Tory chairman predicts Holyrood power within a decade Richard Keen claims the Conservatives can be the main beneficiaries from a collapse in support for the SNP in the wake of 'no' vote in the independence referendum
True story from the Commercial Court. I am covering a procedural hearing. In comes Mr Keen QC.
"Are you Mr X"he asked looking down a remarkably long nose. "No", I replied, "I am DavidL standing in for Mr X today." Mr Keen replies: "I don't know him either."
Brilliantly and hilariously rude. I couldn't stop laughing. Got what I wanted though.
This is not a man to be under estimated. Best Dean by a distance in my time at the Scottish bar.
If the massed ranks of the Republican internet presence were unable to prove the birther hypothesis, I doubt that the Cornish sex memoirist and archeological thriller novelist internet presence can prove the juicer hypothesis.
If the massed ranks of the Republican internet presence were unable to prove the birther hypothesis, I doubt that the Cornish sex memoirist and archeological thriller novelist internet presence can prove the juicer hypothesis.
Not to mention the complete absence of anything of note when googling "hillary clinton" and "juicer".
Now I understand why a handful of left-wing posters attempt to silence anyone trying to raise awareness about the appalling level of child abuse in this country:
Hillary is, as all good pb-ers know, an acknowledged "juicer". The fact that this scandal has remained hidden hitherto does not mean it will not, inevitably, re-emerge if and when she makes another bid for the presidency.
Bet accordingly.
Surely the Benghazi killings/cover up will be thrown at her during the Dem contest?
Hillary is, as all good pb-ers know, an acknowledged "juicer". The fact that this scandal has remained hidden hitherto does not mean it will not, inevitably, re-emerge if and when she makes another bid for the presidency.
Bet accordingly.
Acknowledged by whom? The National Examiner? Drudge Report?
By anyone with sense. We went over this years ago, on pb. You do understand the precise and unusual meaning of "juicer"? I do not believe Americans will vote for such a person as president.
I give up. The internet says booze, or anabolic steroids. What's the answer?
Juicer is an abstruse, technical term, not covered by Urban Dictionary. I doubt OGH would want me to spell it all out, so I suggest interested parties refer to the original pb discussion (during the Hillary v Obama Dem Nom campaign).
Crikey, I have got adverts for various juicing machines on this thread now. Could be worse I suppose.
There was an episode in the entirely fictional but very funny "Primary Colours" where the wife of the fictional and philandering Democratic candidate got, well revenge, with a coloured aide. Am I close?
''Tim told me I could be sued when I mentioned it on here, I asked him to pass my details to the protagonists.''
Tom Watson is sniffing around this issue and wrote an article about it in the Mirror in November 2013.
Strangely it did not mention the NCCL or its activities at all, choosing instead to criticise the Home Secretary for being slow in trying to trace certain files.
It was as if the NCCL did not exist, for Watson. He wanted to find out if Labour and Tory governments had actually funded certain activities by certain organisations.
"Salmond's supporters were delighted, as they always are. But it felt like a reputation destroying performance. For if anyone is guilty of the bluff, bluster and bullying with which Salmond loudly charged his much better argued critics, it is Salmond himself. What's more, I'd be pretty confident that the voters will ultimately see it that way too."
Mr. Pork, not up on this sort of thing but I thought the PM selected out nomination for commissioner, and the EU then either accepted or declined the whole lot of nominees?
Hillary is, as all good pb-ers know, an acknowledged "juicer". The fact that this scandal has remained hidden hitherto does not mean it will not, inevitably, re-emerge if and when she makes another bid for the presidency.
Bet accordingly.
Acknowledged by whom? The National Examiner? Drudge Report?
By anyone with sense. We went over this years ago, on pb. You do understand the precise and unusual meaning of "juicer"? I do not believe Americans will vote for such a person as president.
I give up. The internet says booze, or anabolic steroids. What's the answer?
Juicer is an abstruse, technical term, not covered by Urban Dictionary. I doubt OGH would want me to spell it all out, so I suggest interested parties refer to the original pb discussion (during the Hillary v Obama Dem Nom campaign).
Crikey, I have got adverts for various juicing machines on this thread now. Could be worse I suppose.
There was an episode in the entirely fictional but very funny "Primary Colours" where the wife of the fictional and philandering Democratic candidate got, well revenge, with a coloured aide. Am I close?
Hillary is, as all good pb-ers know, an acknowledged "juicer". The fact that this scandal has remained hidden hitherto does not mean it will not, inevitably, re-emerge if and when she makes another bid for the presidency.
Bet accordingly.
Acknowledged by whom? The National Examiner? Drudge Report?
By anyone with sense. We went over this years ago, on pb. You do understand the precise and unusual meaning of "juicer"? I do not believe Americans will vote for such a person as president.
I give up. The internet says booze, or anabolic steroids. What's the answer?
Juicer is an abstruse, technical term, not covered by Urban Dictionary. I doubt OGH would want me to spell it all out, so I suggest interested parties refer to the original pb discussion (during the Hillary v Obama Dem Nom campaign).
Crikey, I have got adverts for various juicing machines on this thread now. Could be worse I suppose.
There was an episode in the entirely fictional but very funny "Primary Colours" where the wife of the fictional and philandering Democratic candidate got, well revenge, with a coloured aide. Am I close?
''Tim told me I could be sued when I mentioned it on here, I asked him to pass my details to the protagonists.''
Tom Watson is sniffing around this issue and wrote an article about it in the Mirror in November 2013.
Strangely it did not mention the NCCL or its activities at all, choosing instead to criticise the Home Secretary for being slow in trying to trace certain files.
It was as if the NCCL did not exist, for Watson. He wanted to find out if Labour and Tory governments had actually funded certain activities by certain organisations.
We'll see what Watson is made of, because the Labour hierarchy will force him to drop it. Is he a crusader or lickspittle?
Mr. Pork, not up on this sort of thing but I thought the PM selected out nomination for commissioner, and the EU then either accepted or declined the whole lot of nominees?
He's talking about Vetoing a Cammie choice obviously. Happily for him he's fine with the favourites Lansley and Mitchell and doesn't consider them to be Eurosceptics. So I doubt we'll even get to see whether he has any actual power to Veto anything.
It even gives Cammie an excuse to his Eurosceptic backbenchers for not appointing Paterson so it might just be Clegg protecting Cammie from the wrath of his own backbenchers again.
Nothing like having the courage of your convictions......
New Scottish Tory chairman predicts Holyrood power within a decade Richard Keen claims the Conservatives can be the main beneficiaries from a collapse in support for the SNP in the wake of 'no' vote in the independence referendum
Mphm, that's interesting, though the headline and your summary, strictly speaking, need Mr Keen's own qualifier "as the largest party in a coalition".
I can't see them being large enough even on that timescale to form a majority with the LDs.
However, it should be noted that Labour and the Tories have proven quite happy to get into bed together, as with Stirling Council and South Ayrshire - at least for now. So does Mr Keen see himself as being in power with Labour holding half the cabinet seats? Really? How long would that last? With someone who gets over half a million a year, according to that not very socialist newspaper the Scotsman? It would certainly be a different political scene.
Well that's an odd post. For years we've had PBnats telling us about the superior forms of government NOTB through PR, Salmond himself had a sort of informal alliance with the dreaded tories that kept him in power from 2007. So while a red\blue council might be a bit left of field it's hardly unique under PR. Or is it only the Nats who can do strange tie ups ?
I'm not SNP: pro indy but openminded pending changes post a Yes . Nor do I speak for PBnats past or present.
I don't like the Scottish system, except its better representation for minorities - it is important that Socialists and Tories are represented. The system was fixed to make it impossible for any party to get a majority, with a view to obviating a referendum. You might consider how that compares to FPTP at Westminster, calculated to convert a minority vote into a majority. And how Mr Salmond and Mr Cameron show as a result.
SNP and Tories were not in coalition or alliance - except in trying to keep the country going despite Labour obstruction on e.g. budgetary votes. Okay, Tories had to be bought off with a long spoon on supply and confidence , with e.g. 1K extra polis on the beat, but there was no way that the Tories were in alliance with SNP: e.g. the infamous vote for the Edinburgh trams where they joined with Labour.
Labour voters in Scotland are socialist and presumably still to the left of the centrist SNP, and the Tories and LDs are well to the right, so the question to my mind is how long even a New Labour Party can remain in formal coalition - remember, this is what Mr Keen said - with the Tories. But yes it all makes straneg bedfellows.
Nothing like having the courage of your convictions......
New Scottish Tory chairman predicts Holyrood power within a decade Richard Keen claims the Conservatives can be the main beneficiaries from a collapse in support for the SNP in the wake of 'no' vote in the independence referendum
Mphm, that's interesting, though the headline and your summary, strictly speaking, need Mr Keen's own qualifier "as the largest party in a coalition".
I can't see them being large enough even on that timescale to form a majority with the LDs.
However, it should be noted that Labour and the Tories have proven quite happy to get into bed together, as with Stirling Council and South Ayrshire - at least for now. So does Mr Keen see himself as being in power with Labour holding half the cabinet seats? Really? How long would that last? With someone who gets over half a million a year, according to that not very socialist newspaper the Scotsman? It would certainly be a different political scene.
Well that's an odd post. For years we've had PBnats telling us about the superior forms of government NOTB through PR, Salmond himself had a sort of informal alliance with the dreaded tories that kept him in power from 2007. So while a red\blue council might be a bit left of field it's hardly unique under PR. Or is it only the Nats who can do strange tie ups ?
Labour voters in Scotland are socialist and presumably still to the left of the centrist SNP, and the Tories and LDs are well to the right, so the question to my mind is how long even a New Labour Party can remain in formal coalition - remember, this is what Mr Keen said - with the Tories. But yes it all makes straneg bedfellows.
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I mean really ? The contortions Scots go through to convince themselves black is white is calvinist nitpicking at its worst. All the parties in scotland have had alliances, deals, coalitions with each other despite their denials and spin. Under PR the numbers dicate that;s inevitable since outright majorities are less frequent. So you're all runing around claiming your chaste and then sneaking off for a quickie when you hope no-one's looking. ;-)
Labour voters in Scotland are socialist and presumably still to the left of the centrist SNP, and the Tories and LDs are well to the right, so the question to my mind is how long even a New Labour Party can remain in formal coalition - remember, this is what Mr Keen said - with the Tories. But yes it all makes straneg bedfellows.
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I mean really ? The contortions Scots go through to convince themselves black is white is calvinist nitpicking at its worst. All the parties in scotland have had alliances, deals, coalitions with each other despite their denials and spin. Under PR the numbers dicate that;s inevitable since outright majorities are less frequent. So you're all runing around claiming your chaste and then sneaking off for a quickie when you hope no-one's looking. ;-)
Oh, quite, but we - or rather Mr Keen and therefore I - are not talking about a spot of metaphorical nookie, or even a more traditional bundling, but about a formal coalition. The political equivalent of a white wedding, orange blossom on the altar and reception at the Artist's House, you know the sort of thing.
Historically, there has not been any such formal coalition since the Labour-LD one in Scotland since 2007. And that had an effect on the LDs in Scotland not unlike what seem likely to happen to them at Westminster at the next election, as the southrons on this thread keep saying, and I have no reason to disbelieve them. That is one reason for Labour to be wary of signing marriage lines with the Tories. The other is that Mr Keen is well out on the extreme of the political spectrum and Labour is, in some respects, a very long leap away given the nature of their voters. Remember that Mr Keen's precondition is the defeat of the SNP to a minor party, too.
Nothing like having the courage of your convictions......
New Scottish Tory chairman predicts Holyrood power within a decade Richard Keen claims the Conservatives can be the main beneficiaries from a collapse in support for the SNP in the wake of 'no' vote in the independence referendum
Mphm, that's interesting, though the headline and your summary, strictly speaking, need Mr Keen's own qualifier "as the largest party in a coalition".
I can't see them being large enough even on that timescale to form a majority with the LDs.
However, it should be noted that Labour and the Tories have proven quite happy to get into bed together, as with Stirling Council and South Ayrshire - at least for now. So does Mr Keen see himself as being in power with Labour holding half the cabinet seats? Really? How long would that last? With someone who gets over half a million a year, according to that not very socialist newspaper the Scotsman? It would certainly be a different political scene.
Well that's an odd post. For years we've had PBnats telling us about the superior forms of government NOTB through PR, Salmond himself had a sort of informal alliance with the dreaded tories that kept him in power from 2007. So while a red\blue council might be a bit left of field it's hardly unique under PR. Or is it only the Nats who can do strange tie ups ?
Labour voters in Scotland are socialist and presumably still to the left of the centrist SNP, and the Tories and LDs are well to the right, so the question to my mind is how long even a New Labour Party can remain in formal coalition - remember, this is what Mr Keen said - with the Tories. But yes it all makes straneg bedfellows.
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I mean really ? The contortions Scots go through to convince themselves black is white is calvinist nitpicking at its worst. All the parties in scotland have had alliances, deals, coalitions with each other despite their denials and spin. Under PR the numbers dicate that;s inevitable since outright majorities are less frequent. So you're all runing around claiming your chaste and then sneaking off for a quickie when you hope no-one's looking. ;-)
PS And I assume you don't mean it, but please, please, don't use religious/sectarian terms even in jest. It's not helpful.
Most amused by the reams of blatant smearing going on so clearly it's fine to join in. Did you know that Cameron may not be a 'juicer' but he is thought to be a 'SunnyD'. Not only that but it's whispered that Osborne is very heavily involved in 'milkbottling'. The mere rumour of these will be enough to topple them from office.
Labour voters in Scotland are socialist and presumably still to the left of the centrist SNP, and the Tories and LDs are well to the right, so the question to my mind is how long even a New Labour Party can remain in formal coalition - remember, this is what Mr Keen said - with the Tories. But yes it all makes straneg bedfellows.
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I mean really ? The contortions Scots go through to convince themselves black is white is calvinist nitpicking at its worst. All the parties in scotland have had alliances, deals, coalitions with each other despite their denials and spin. Under PR the numbers dicate that;s inevitable since outright majorities are less frequent. So you're all runing around claiming your chaste and then sneaking off for a quickie when you hope no-one's looking. ;-)
Oh, quite, but we - or rather Mr Keen and therefore I - are not talking about a spot of metaphorical nookie, or even a more traditional bundling, but about a formal coalition. The political equivalent of a white wedding, orange blossom on the altar and reception at the Artist's House, you know the sort of thing.
Historically, there has not been any such formal coalition since the Labour-LD one in Scotland since 2007. And that had an effect on the LDs in Scotland not unlike what seem likely to happen to them at Westminster at the next election, as the southrons on this thread keep saying, and I have no reason to disbelieve them. That is one reason for Labour to be wary of signing marriage lines with the Tories. The other is that Mr Keen is well out on the extreme of the political spectrum and Labour is, in some respects, a very long leap away given the nature of their voters. Remember that Mr Keen's precondition is the defeat of the SNP to a minor party, too.
At council level all the parties have signed pacts with each other. The gransdstanding and positioning that goes with it is no different than the LD\Con posturing at national level.
At least this is more exciting than the grisly, boring Barca tiki-taka bollocks.
Bayern remain the best team in Europe, however, likewise Barca and Real are also, just, ahead of the best English sides.
That said, I predict the money pouring into the English game will see another English triumph in the Champions league in a couple of years, perhaps even a period of English dominance.
Chelsea beat Barca over two legs when they were better than they are now, and Bayern scored with the last kick of the game to force a draw against Chelsea at the start of the season.
Evil EUSSR! Unelected Von Rompuy forcing the Brussels jackboot down the throat of of patriotic tory Eurosceptics, I mean, er, listen to the measured tones of this EU giant.
At least this is more exciting than the grisly, boring Barca tiki-taka bollocks.
Bayern remain the best team in Europe, however, likewise Barca and Real are also, just, ahead of the best English sides.
That said, I predict the money pouring into the English game will see another English triumph in the Champions league in a couple of years, perhaps even a period of English dominance.
Chelsea beat Barca over two legs when they were better than they are now, and Bayern scored with the last kick of the game to force a draw against Chelsea at the start of the season.
Just saying.
The "problem" for English football, despite its being richer. is that the best players in the EPL are spread out between six or seven teams; in Spain there are only two serious clubs, in Germany just one.
This makes English football more competitive and exciting to watch (global TV audiences for EPL football are larger than for all other leagues combined) but it means the individual teams will still struggle against Real, Barca and Bayern, who attract the very best players of all, guaranteeing them domestic success. Real and Barca also negotiate individual TV deals.
However I reckon the cash will tell, in the end, and English teams will reassert themselves. Unless of course there is a proper European league (and this must be the logic behind the Arab money pouring into PSG - no one gives a toss about French domestic soccer)
How do you get to seven?
Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, City, Man Utd, Liverpool.... I struggle after that.
Evil EUSSR! Unelected Von Rompuy forcing the Brussels jackboot down the throat of of patriotic tory Eurosceptics, I mean, er, listen to the measured tones of this EU giant.
What has Jeb been up to since he stopped being governor? It's been a while. He is supposed to be a lot smarter than his brother (admittedly not a very high bar).
For the reasons JackW set out on the previous thread it is very, very difficult to see a path to victory for the GOP candidate without Florida.
Maybe a hispanic who can bring some states that have drifted away back into play? And a woman to take on Hilary? There are so many boxes the GOP have to tick to even get in the game that it is tricky.
Susana Martinez, governor of New Mexico, ticks more of these boxes than most but I have no idea if she is smart enough.
George Bush is (was?) an intelligent man - yes I said it. His cognitive functions sadly declined whilst he was in the presidency. See this vid.
Evil EUSSR! Unelected Von Rompuy forcing the Brussels jackboot down the throat of of patriotic tory Eurosceptics, I mean, er, listen to the measured tones of this EU giant.
'The sad news is all the fieldwork was conducted prior to George Osborne's intervention on the currency union.'
And Arthur Daley's response to it.
No bad thing. A poll from just before Osborne's intervention would be ideal so we can later compare with the polls done afterwards. Just need some patience.
I suggest it's a bad day to be a former Prime Minister. But we shan't go there.
In the end, the report confirms what we already knew: things happened in Falkirk which should not be tolerated in a modern political party.
It was not so much about the bending of the rules per se. It was the inescapable conclusion that the intervention of senior figures in this way makes a complete mockery of the idea of a level playing field in Labour’s parliamentary selections.
'The sad news is all the fieldwork was conducted prior to George Osborne's intervention on the currency union.'
And Arthur Daley's response to it.
No bad thing.
The poll and it's likely fieldwork dates was already referenced on here before today. It just shows how accurate some scottish blogs are when it comes to this and other things.
Hillary is, as all good pb-ers know, an acknowledged "juicer". The fact that this scandal has remained hidden hitherto does not mean it will not, inevitably, re-emerge if and when she makes another bid for the presidency.
:)On July 22nd the Cameroons will have the opportunity to invoke their EU Referendum Lock. They want to pass more powers to the EU, lets see them put it to the people.
In the end, the report confirms what we already knew: things happened in Falkirk which should not be tolerated in a modern political party.
It was not so much about the bending of the rules per se. It was the inescapable conclusion that the intervention of senior figures in this way makes a complete mockery of the idea of a level playing field in Labour’s parliamentary selections.
Not a bad effort, here is another van Rompuy for you:
Hond
An old dog faithfully plodding at his master's side. Growing old together
If you'd managed to come up with your own effort it might not look quite so much as Rompuy and you being referenced as the master with the hound obediently pouring out his 'art'.
Just to add that I'm looking forward to tomorrow's by election. It's all been very low key, although we did get a Plaid bit of paper trough the letterbox telling us all about Labour's cuts on the council. No idea who the candidates will be or who I'll vote for. Just have to see.
It has made me think though about why the Lib Dems have hung on in council seats where they have a strong local base. If you put something through someone's letterbox even if they don't read it they might remember who it was and it shows you're making an effort locally. And if you're the only ones who bother with any literature it also highlights the other parties' lack of effort. I won't be voting Plaid but I can see why some people will.
Not a bad effort, here is another van Rompuy for you:
Hond
An old dog faithfully plodding at his master's side. Growing old together
If you'd managed to come up with your own effort it might not look quite so much as Rompuy and you being referenced as the master with the hound obediently pouring out his 'art'.
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New Scottish Tory chairman predicts Holyrood power within a decade
Richard Keen claims the Conservatives can be the main beneficiaries from a collapse in support for the SNP in the wake of 'no' vote in the independence referendum
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10647303/New-Scottish-Tory-chairman-predicts-Holyrood-power-within-a-decade.html
Do we know whether he likes to bet?
Not a good day for the PB Hodges.
http://glasgowunihumanrights.blogspot.co.uk/
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/460617/Alex-Salmond-s-state-snoopers-will-face-court-bid-to-halt-attack-on-families?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+daily-express-uk-news+(Daily+Express+::+UK+Feed)
I can't see them being large enough even on that timescale to form a majority with the LDs.
However, it should be noted that Labour and the Tories have proven quite happy to get into bed together, as with Stirling Council and South Ayrshire - at least for now. So does Mr Keen see himself as being in power with Labour holding half the cabinet seats? Really? How long would that last? With someone who gets over half a million a year, according to that not very socialist newspaper the Scotsman? It would certainly be a different political scene.
Mike Smithson less so !!
('Deconstructing' excepted).
Adam Tomkins, John Millar Professor of Public Law at the University of Glasgow is no slouch either:
http://notesfromnorthbritain.wordpress.com
But hey - what would he know about "law" while Eck has "common sense"....
FAO CarlottaVance
You must have missed this; I'm sure you wouldn't have scuttled off, or wished to give the impression of chickendom.
here in England we are rejoicing at the success of our Scottish brethern and their huge contribution to our great nation
much as I'm sure all of you NOTB were celebrating the suucess of all those medals won by english public school alumni in 2012.
Not to worry, I feel sure that any Hodges or Rentoul article from now on will be treated with the utmost seriousness.
Now if you'll excuse me the McChickens need feeding....
BTW .... and apologies if already discussed but Scottish islands have been placed first (Harris and Lewis) fourth (Orkney) and ninth (Mull) in the top ten of European islands :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-26247865
For my part Mull is breathtakingly beautiful and a most wondrous place to visit. The scope of the natural beauty and wildlife is spectacular.
Mr. Slackbladder, it's interesting to consider which of those bets would be better value.
We still have little idea about pace.
One cluck for yes, two clucks for no.....
That excellent Yes man, Jim Sillars thinks that your boy, Eck is "clueless", away with the fairies, and expounds "stupidity on stilts". Better Together.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/former-snp-deputy-leader-jim-3095958
Oh, wait, are we allowed to say that now that Nicola thinks it is Shameful?
(One lap pace is nearly always faster than race pace).
Therefore we can't tell the difference between the teams, but it looks as though the cars will still be fast. Which will be good.
(I hope to goodness I read the times correctly...)
However, we still don't know about pace in terms of which teams are faster. We have a slight idea about reliability.
The sad news is all the fieldwork was conducted prior to George Osborne's intervention on the currency union.
For the reasons JackW set out on the previous thread it is very, very difficult to see a path to victory for the GOP candidate without Florida.
Maybe a hispanic who can bring some states that have drifted away back into play? And a woman to take on Hilary? There are so many boxes the GOP have to tick to even get in the game that it is tricky.
Susana Martinez, governor of New Mexico, ticks more of these boxes than most but I have no idea if she is smart enough.
And Arthur Daley's response to it.
The idea that Hispanics just want someone of their ethnic group standing is a bit insulting. The polls show Rubio is not any higher in the polls among them than other Republicans. I'm sure they'd like a Hispanic up there, but they also want someone who agrees with them on the issues. Focus groups show they are most concerned about access to healthcare, unemployment, income inequality and immigration reform. What do the GOP have to offer them on any of those issues?
Haven't heard much from my US moles lately, but what I have confirms my initial impression that Bridgegate isn't going away in a hurry. It is probably terminal for Christie's chances, not least because there was substantial opposition to him in the GOP long before the scandal broke. He might have carried the Party with him if he had held out the promise of a win over Clinton, but that selling point has evaporated now. He's a lay, if you can find anybody to back him.
I pretty much agree with everything else you say. Add Scott Walker to your list of possibles. He's travelling along nicely just under the radar.
On the Democrat side, the only person who can stop Hillary is Hillary. If her health holds, and she wants it, the ticket is hers.
Sensible suggestion to back a woman as next Potus, Absent Hillary, there are decent female candidates on both sides of the House - so it's a decent value bet.
Like you, I'm keeping my powder dry on the main Blue v Red contest. Superficially, it looks like a GOP year, but the demographics hamper them, and their visceral hatred of Obama could work against them. He's not standing.
Good luck with all your bets.
PtP
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2562518/The-truth-Labour-apologists-paedophilia-Police-probe-child-sex-group-linked-party-officials-wake-Savile.html
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/feb/19/pussy-riot-attacked-whips-cossack-milita-sochi-winter-olympics
Since I've bet on Yes to win, obviously greater than 50%. Again, I'm happy to offer the 4/9 on No that Pulpstar & Tim took.
There's no shame in admitting that though you've posted 1000s of times on a political betting site you've never had a political bet in your puff. I can see why it might be a bit scary.
Quite funny though..
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=juicer
http://i.imgur.com/2DtB7rU.jpg
"Are you Mr X"he asked looking down a remarkably long nose. "No", I replied, "I am DavidL standing in for Mr X today."
Mr Keen replies: "I don't know him either."
Brilliantly and hilariously rude. I couldn't stop laughing. Got what I wanted though.
This is not a man to be under estimated. Best Dean by a distance in my time at the Scottish bar.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26265230
There was an episode in the entirely fictional but very funny "Primary Colours" where the wife of the fictional and philandering Democratic candidate got, well revenge, with a coloured aide. Am I close?
Tom Watson is sniffing around this issue and wrote an article about it in the Mirror in November 2013.
Strangely it did not mention the NCCL or its activities at all, choosing instead to criticise the Home Secretary for being slow in trying to trace certain files.
It was as if the NCCL did not exist, for Watson. He wanted to find out if Labour and Tory governments had actually funded certain activities by certain organisations.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/19/alex-salmond-acting-spoilt-children
"Salmond's supporters were delighted, as they always are. But it felt like a reputation destroying performance. For if anyone is guilty of the bluff, bluster and bullying with which Salmond loudly charged his much better argued critics, it is Salmond himself. What's more, I'd be pretty confident that the voters will ultimately see it that way too."
Oh dear, Calamity Clegg is posturing again. Let's hope nobody reminds his ostrich faction of spinners that he's basically a toxic irrelevance now.
It even gives Cammie an excuse to his Eurosceptic backbenchers for not appointing Paterson so it might just be Clegg protecting Cammie from the wrath of his own backbenchers again.
I don't like the Scottish system, except its better representation for minorities - it is important that Socialists and Tories are represented. The system was fixed to make it impossible for any party to get a majority, with a view to obviating a referendum. You might consider how that compares to FPTP at Westminster, calculated to convert a minority vote into a majority. And how Mr Salmond and Mr Cameron show as a result.
SNP and Tories were not in coalition or alliance - except in trying to keep the country going despite Labour obstruction on e.g. budgetary votes. Okay, Tories had to be bought off with a long spoon on supply and confidence , with e.g. 1K extra polis on the beat, but there was no way that the Tories were in alliance with SNP: e.g. the infamous vote for the Edinburgh trams where they joined with Labour.
Labour voters in Scotland are socialist and presumably still to the left of the centrist SNP, and the Tories and LDs are well to the right, so the question to my mind is how long even a New Labour Party can remain in formal coalition - remember, this is what Mr Keen said - with the Tories. But yes it all makes straneg bedfellows.
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Oh, quite, but we - or rather Mr Keen and therefore I - are not talking about a spot of metaphorical nookie, or even a more traditional bundling, but about a formal coalition. The political equivalent of a white wedding, orange blossom on the altar and reception at the Artist's House, you know the sort of thing.
Historically, there has not been any such formal coalition since the Labour-LD one in Scotland since 2007. And that had an effect on the LDs in Scotland not unlike what seem likely to happen to them at Westminster at the next election, as the southrons on this thread keep saying, and I have no reason to disbelieve them. That is one reason for Labour to be wary of signing marriage lines with the Tories. The other is that Mr Keen is well out on the extreme of the political spectrum and Labour is, in some respects, a very long leap away given the nature of their voters. Remember that Mr Keen's precondition is the defeat of the SNP to a minor party, too.
ROFL
Historically, there has not been any such formal coalition since the Labour-LD one in Scotland since 2007. And that had an effect on the LDs in Scotland not unlike what seem likely to happen to them at Westminster at the next election, as the southrons on this thread keep saying, and I have no reason to disbelieve them. That is one reason for Labour to be wary of signing marriage lines with the Tories. The other is that Mr Keen is well out on the extreme of the political spectrum and Labour is, in some respects, a very long leap away given the nature of their voters. Remember that Mr Keen's precondition is the defeat of the SNP to a minor party, too.
At council level all the parties have signed pacts with each other. The gransdstanding and positioning that goes with it is no different than the LD\Con posturing at national level.
'And Salmond is a known "tickler". Which goes some way to explaining the incessant McChicken McChortling.'
Salmond's morphed from serious politician to Arthur Daley in a week.
Just saying.
'Well there you. The SNP spend twenty years sucking up to the EU. And what do they get for their efforts? A couple of kicks in the balls.'
Just more bluff, bluster & bullying,Arthur will fix it.
*chortle*
Abandon all pretence (not that there is much) of rational debate, and just go full on Braveheart.
Crank the FREEEEEEEEEDOM!!!!!!! to 11
Go out in a blaze of glory
No repeat of last night please.
For the avoidance of doubt, you are not to interact with each other. Please adhere to the spirit of this ruling.
If so, then you should, you have the story of the century.
If not, you and others shall desist with this line of posting until the Telegraph lets you blog about it.
Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, City, Man Utd, Liverpool.... I struggle after that.
A moment of reflection:
Birds in concert,
one sings above all others.
I don't know its name
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw4Bhmm22xo
Sean's basic point is correct though. English football is by far the most exciting league to watch.
If they;ve got a monopoly in Germany, what on earth have they got in Scotland? LOL
A lap of honopoly?
Reflections over water
A school of fish
Two float belly up
Dead? I ask
I suggest it's a bad day to be a former Prime Minister. But we shan't go there.
Dana Poiana @DanaPoiana Jan 26
EU referendum Bill 'It is a dead parrot', said Bill Cash - the chairman of the European scrutiny select committee http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/10596410/EU-referendum-Bill-branded-dead-parrot-after-Lords-vote.html …
Gullible tory
Will they ever learn?
No. I answer
Will they ever learn?
No. I answer
Not a bad effort, here is another van Rompuy for you:
Hond
An old dog faithfully
plodding at his master's side.
Growing old together
Will they ever learn?
No. I answer
:)On July 22nd the Cameroons will have the opportunity to invoke their EU Referendum Lock. They want to pass more powers to the EU, lets see them put it to the people.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/benedictbrogan/100260182/the-next-tory-plot-to-embarrass-david-cameron-on-europe-is-already-taking-shape/
Said the scottish tory surger who's been spinning for Balls, Brown and now Van Rompuy.
Little Ed is next for your lovebombing I take it.
It has made me think though about why the Lib Dems have hung on in council seats where they have a strong local base. If you put something through someone's letterbox even if they don't read it they might remember who it was and it shows you're making an effort locally. And if you're the only ones who bother with any literature it also highlights the other parties' lack of effort. I won't be voting Plaid but I can see why some people will.
Disappointment
The fat man meditates
beseiged by his enemies
a tear slowly forms