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Ex-Tory minister Heseltine says back the LDs – politicalbetting.com
Ex-Tory minister Heseltine says back the LDs – politicalbetting.com
Heseltine was always a strong supporter of the EU unlike almost of the modern Conservative leadership. During the Thatcher and Major years he was a leading cabinet minister and was at one stage was Deputy PM.
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The truth is most people under 60 won't have a clue who he is - as to whether Heseltine has any resonance among the older core Conservative vote, we'll see. I suspect very little but any weakening of that core Conservative constituency will be welcomed by those wishing for a change in Government next time.
The legal issue (as I understand it) is that it was an amendment introduced to existing draft legislation in the house of lords, it got voted down by the lords, so the commons cannot reintroduce it. They now need a new bill.
I also think "spicy soup" won't catch on as a mass trend. Soup we just associate too strongly with peasant food, boiled veg and fatty meat. And in my experience, whatever about Brits, continentals are just not big on "spicy".
How long can HMG delay this “new legislation”?
https://x.com/pursuitofprog/status/1701998157360517166?s=61&t=GGp3Vs1t1kTWDiyA-odnZg
PS They could act without new legislation of course but they have shown themselves to be the most incompetent British government EVER (and it's a crowded field).
That means most of the Tory core voters will!!
They need to try and fix the issue a different way.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001qgwv
The state of drama on the BBC has slipped - it's completely unbelievable.
Because the next video could easily show a child, or multiple children, being mauled to death. And if the government hasn’t acted by then, the blame will be all theirs, and it will end careers and reputations
Anyway Heseltine is more liberal than Starmer let alone Sunak now and left of Blair, I expect most of his biggest supporters are already voting LD
https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public#:~:text=You can get an unlimited,or fined (or both).
There have already been jailing of the keepers of Bully XL owners:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/11/mother-of-boy-killed-by-out-of-control-dog-criticises-uk-ministers-for-failing-to-act
We need to use these sentencing powers more often and with greater publicity.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/26/michael-heseltine-calls-on-voters-to-back-lib-dems
There are many reasons not to vote Tory currently, but Heseltine's isn't new.
Trouble with that is the Tories without any Liberals won't win any elections.
Actually, if the Tories are going to be illiberal, there's no trouble with that.
It's not a massive part of the cohort nor a massive cohort, but perhaps a few votes would still be swung by Heseltine.
On a forced choice against Labour some liberals may opt for the Conservatives, it doesn't make them ideological conservatives, indeed in LD v Con marginals many would vote LD
Finally have a good idea, and they balls that up too.
Yes I voted for Brexit, after much deliberation, I was initially pro-European and got won around by the arguments of amongst others @Richard_Tyndall and others. Mr Tyndall of course is another liberal right winger on this board who voted for Brexit, there's more than one of us.
Brexit is not a liberal v illiberal divide. Many liberal rightwingers voted Remain yes, like Clarke or Heseltine etc, while other liberal rightwingers voted Leave.
I absolutely would vote LD in an LD v Con marginal currently, so long as the LD candidate is not a NIMBY. I would not have in 2015. That is the problem the Conservatives have, lose us 'Cameroon' liberals and the party is going to struggle to remain in Downing Street.
But being illiberal, the party doesn't deserve to remain in Downing Street, so that's fine.
A few years ago my daughter was waitressing during her summer break from Uni and was told she was going to be serving someone, who used to be famous, that night. She came home to ask us if we had heard of David Essex. She seems completely surprised we had both heard of this unknown person.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/13/rishi-sunak-blocked-rebuild-of-hospitals-with-crumbling-concrete
I had no idea who he was either when I read the name.
You happily voted for Boris to leave the EU and leave the single market and end free movement at the last election, you clearly aren't that liberal
Male 18-24s voted Labour by 46:28
Female 18-24s voted Labour by 65:15
The genders at that age are separated by a 16 point swing.
In older groups the gender gaps in voting are a few percent at most.
I expect the 18-24 gender gap to widen still
further. Maybe a 20+ point gender gap.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/12/17/how-britain-voted-2019-general-election
I feel strongly that the free trade the EU gives out weighs the latter, but it is perfectly reasonable that a liberal minded person believes otherwise.
I am very pro-migration, I simply am not discriminatory towards Europeans and against other ethnicities.
I want to have immigration, but treat migrants fairly whether they be from Austria or Australia, Belgium or Bangladesh, Croatia or Cambodia. We should welcome the best and the brightest from around the entire planet, not just one little corner of it.
The effect is the same as a knife attack for example.
You could just about be a genuine liberal and have backed Brexit but wanted to have stayed in the single market with free movement, you didn't
The Bank of England’s unwinding of its multi billion-pound bond portfolio is comparable to former Chancellor of the Exchequer Gordon Brown’s infamous decision to “sell gold at the bottom of the market” from 1999 to 2002, the asset manager Columbia Threadneedle said.
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The UK Treasury missed out on at least £2 billion ($2.5 billion) from the gold sales, according to later estimates, and is facing annual losses of around £3 billion now as the BOE rushes to dump gilts under quantitative tightening with little regard for the price.
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Rising interest rates have turned what was once a money-spinner for the government, as the bonds were profitable in a time of low interest rates, into a drain on its finances. The bank now expects losses on the program of around £250 billion over the coming years, leaving taxpayers nursing a net loss of more than £100 billion.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/boe-s-qt-program-likened-to-gold-sales-at-bottom-of-the-market-1.1970369
Makes the triple lock seem like small beer.
ETA QT = quantitative tightening.
Its funny how other liberal posters like @kjh can understand this, but you can't. Its because you try to pigeonhole everyone into set boxes of what a "true Tory" or "true liberal" looks like, but life and politics are more fluid than that.
I think its entirely reasonable to say if we're going to have net migration of say 250k a year then those people coming in should be the best and brightest 250k net from around the world, treated evenly and fairly regardless of ethnic background. Rather than saying we accept 150k net from free movement, so we'll only accept 100k net from the rest of the world via stricter migration rules on the rest of the world to compensate for free movement migration.
I'm pleased to see that so far, what I wanted is what's happened and not what Farage wanted. Since free movement ended, we've not seen a collapse in immigration thankfully, instead the draconian restrictions on rest of the world migration have been eased to counter the end of free movement. Personally from my liberal perspective, I find that very welcome. Others, like Faragists or just die hard EUphiles find that a failure.
Its utterly atrocious mismanagement of our finances.
Though I'm not sure my wife would know who he is. I expect most my age don't.
Isn't it a bit... well, eugenics-y to talk of the "best and brightest"?
https://www.economicsobservatory.com/how-is-the-post-brexit-immigration-system-affecting-the-uk-economy
For non-EU migrants coming to the UK to work, the new proposals represent a considerable liberalisation compared with the current system. There are now lower salary and skill thresholds and no overall cap on numbers.
Try dealing with facts from time to time. Non-EU migration has been considerably liberalised in recent years. I for one completely welcome that, indeed its what I was hoping for when I cast my ballot.
And its certainly less racist than saying 'white Europeans welcome, anyone else not so fast'.
different information sources between young men and young women, whose dominant source of news is the internet, with men exposed to a much more right wing worldview than women on average.
If you want to base your immigration policy on what's best for the economy, fair enough, but you were going a step further in claiming that the people thus picked are the "best and brightest". If you really wanted to select the "best and brightest", I'm sure you could come up with some sort of aptitude test that would be better at picking the "best and brightest".
Sushi fish is (usually) flash frozen. That kills off the platyhelminths and nematodes.
Very much Autumn today.
You could quite legitimately argue that under the definition of indirect discrimination in the Equality Act, that free movement for the heavily-white EU nations and very restricted migration for the predominantly not-white rest of the world, absolutely would be indirectly discriminating against people via a protected characteristic.
Now of course as it was done via primary legislation, it was not unlawful, despite that, but there's a difference between what's lawful and what's right.
It's not and never has been about race.
It's just that allowing labour to move freely is a central part of a single market. We have the same thing within the UK. The fact that it's trivial to move from Lincoln to Glasgow yet non-trivial to move from Lesotho to Glasgow, is not racism.
The only thing I shop at Waitrose for is my seafood for sushi, either there or Morrisons seem to have the best seafood counters.
Last time I was there though the person working behind the counter said they have to say that their seafood is not classed as sushi grade seafood and so not recommended for sushi. Still bought it, still delicious and would still buy it again and use it again for sushi though.
Not entirely certain what the difference between sushi grade and non-sushi grade seafood is. It had been frozen, I confirmed that.
It doesn't matter if you didn't intend to be racist, but are because of ignorance or something else, you're still being racist if you are.
EG in America many of their universities have policies of discriminating in favour of "legacy" applications. Given their legacy applicants are disproportionately white, this is a racist policy even if its not its intention. The intention is to support those who have made donations or contributed to the university in the past etc, but its still discriminatory even if you have what you consider to be benign intentions.