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  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,135
    Scott_xP said:

    nico679 said:

    The Home Office busy throwing junior officials under the bus.

    Operation save the stain on humanity is now at code red

    @lizziedearden
    Former home secretary Priti Patel has accused the government of being “secretive about its intentions” to house asylum seekers at RAF Wethersfield

    Ministers applied for a 12-month "emergency" development but a leaked memo shows it will be used for 5 years

    https://twitter.com/lizziedearden/status/1691093679870717953?s=20


    Cruella is what happens when you feed Priti Patel after midnight...
    How can you be too authoritarian for Priti Patel?

    That's like being fired from OFSTED for being a safeguarding risk.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,139
    Scott_xP said:

    nico679 said:

    The Home Office busy throwing junior officials under the bus.

    Operation save the stain on humanity is now at code red

    @lizziedearden
    Former home secretary Priti Patel has accused the government of being “secretive about its intentions” to house asylum seekers at RAF Wethersfield

    Ministers applied for a 12-month "emergency" development but a leaked memo shows it will be used for 5 years

    https://twitter.com/lizziedearden/status/1691093679870717953?s=20


    Cruella is what happens when you feed Priti Patel after midnight...
    5 years? Well that's not Cruella's fault now is it. Labour will have been in power (possibly) for 3 and a half of those five years. Sack the Shadow Home Secretary.
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 2,727
    DavidL said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    As is traditional. The sun is finally coming out in Falmouth

    …. But my older daughter is still determined to go to St Andrews or York. Ah well

    I grew up in St Andrews and can't understand why anyone would voluntarily spend four years of their youth there, but each to their own.
    Miklosvar said:

    Leon said:

    As is traditional. The sun is finally coming out in Falmouth

    …. But my older daughter is still determined to go to St Andrews or York. Ah well

    Get her to look really really seriously at the reality of accommodation in both places. St A may be lovely but the undergraduates are all commuting from Dundee
    Just told her. Now she’s grumpy
    They have built a lot more undergraduate accommodation on the edge of St Andrews in the last 3 or 4 years. It is modern block but it is handy for the campus. I don't think many commute from Dundee now. Indeed one of my pal's sons in the village stayed in student accommodation throughout his degree even although he had a car.
    Don Paterson is very good - not to say hilarious - on Dundee in his recently published memoir, "Toy Wars". (See chapter 9 - Bungopolis). Just hope the place has improved since he was brought up there.
  • Nigelb said:

    Not just Tesla.

    China’s Grip On Tesla’s Battery Supply Chain Highlighted In New Report
    https://insideevs.com/news/681303/tesla-reliance-china-battery-supply-chain/

    Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, with its sizeable subsidies for 'green' manufacturing, has actually started the US down the road in addressing the issue (and incentivised the EU to do likewise).

    God knows where we'd be under a second term Trump.

    So an America First industrial policy is good as long as it's not Trump doing it?
    Trump never did an America First industrial policy.

    Simply shouting "America First", being rude about non-white people, and cutting taxes on the wealthy while doing nothing about business investment does not amount to an industrial strategy.

    Biden has had a strategy to encourage investment, changed the tax system with his unfortunately named IRA, and the market has responded accordingly.

    What did Trump do?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,553
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    This morning’s first attempt at witness intimidation.
    https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1691074321584701440

    Initially read that as witless
    Nobody does witless like me! In fact, I invented witless, just so I could drain the swamp and lock up all those evil Woke who STOLE MY ELECTION WIN, THE GREATEST EVER, and I will WIN AND TAKE WITLESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND DESTROY ALL MY ENEMIES and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

    No apologies offered to Donald Trump.
    Under The House Of Mouse Eternal Copyright Act, you have been found guilty of copying the dunce* property of Donald Trump. The penalty is life + 148,543 years in prison.

    *No human can manage to say “intellectual property” in connection with Donald Trump
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,278
    edited August 2023

    Nigelb said:

    Not just Tesla.

    China’s Grip On Tesla’s Battery Supply Chain Highlighted In New Report
    https://insideevs.com/news/681303/tesla-reliance-china-battery-supply-chain/

    Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, with its sizeable subsidies for 'green' manufacturing, has actually started the US down the road in addressing the issue (and incentivised the EU to do likewise).

    God knows where we'd be under a second term Trump.

    So an America First industrial policy is good as long as it's not Trump doing it?
    Trump never did an America First industrial policy.

    Simply shouting "America First", being rude about non-white people, and cutting taxes on the wealthy while doing nothing about business investment does not amount to an industrial strategy.

    Biden has had a strategy to encourage investment, changed the tax system with his unfortunately named IRA, and the market has responded accordingly.

    What did Trump do?
    Trump broke with the orthodoxy of free trade agreements and imposed large tariffs on strategically significant imports.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,283

    Nigelb said:

    Not just Tesla.

    China’s Grip On Tesla’s Battery Supply Chain Highlighted In New Report
    https://insideevs.com/news/681303/tesla-reliance-china-battery-supply-chain/

    Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, with its sizeable subsidies for 'green' manufacturing, has actually started the US down the road in addressing the issue (and incentivised the EU to do likewise).

    God knows where we'd be under a second term Trump.

    So an America First industrial policy is good as long as it's not Trump doing it?
    I think most policies will be relatively good if not being done by America's only ever fascist president.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,283
    Nigelb said:

    This morning’s first attempt at witness intimidation.
    https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1691074321584701440

    It is funny how "loser" is always common in the lexicon of people who are best described by said term.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,139

    Nigelb said:

    Not just Tesla.

    China’s Grip On Tesla’s Battery Supply Chain Highlighted In New Report
    https://insideevs.com/news/681303/tesla-reliance-china-battery-supply-chain/

    Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, with its sizeable subsidies for 'green' manufacturing, has actually started the US down the road in addressing the issue (and incentivised the EU to do likewise).

    God knows where we'd be under a second term Trump.

    So an America First industrial policy is good as long as it's not Trump doing it?
    Trump never did an America First industrial policy.

    Simply shouting "America First", being rude about non-white people, and cutting taxes on the wealthy while doing nothing about business investment does not amount to an industrial strategy.

    Biden has had a strategy to encourage investment, changed the tax system with his unfortunately named IRA, and the market has responded accordingly.

    What did Trump do?
    "What did Trump do?"

    It's a long list and none of it positive. And next time the list will be longer.

    1. Undermine the Constitution.
    2. Pack the SC with alleged dodgy judges.
    3. Likely sedition (re: 6th Jan)
    4. Alleged treason (relationship with Putin)
    5. Drive a coach and horses through election protocol.
    6. Ignore Hurricane Maria's aftermath.
    7. Encourage racial division
    8. ...
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,139

    Nigelb said:

    Not just Tesla.

    China’s Grip On Tesla’s Battery Supply Chain Highlighted In New Report
    https://insideevs.com/news/681303/tesla-reliance-china-battery-supply-chain/

    Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, with its sizeable subsidies for 'green' manufacturing, has actually started the US down the road in addressing the issue (and incentivised the EU to do likewise).

    God knows where we'd be under a second term Trump.

    So an America First industrial policy is good as long as it's not Trump doing it?
    Trump never did an America First industrial policy.

    Simply shouting "America First", being rude about non-white people, and cutting taxes on the wealthy while doing nothing about business investment does not amount to an industrial strategy.

    Biden has had a strategy to encourage investment, changed the tax system with his unfortunately named IRA, and the market has responded accordingly.

    What did Trump do?
    Trump broke with the orthodoxy of free trade agreements and imposed large tariffs on strategically significant imports.
    Which was inflationary...
  • Nigelb said:

    Not just Tesla.

    China’s Grip On Tesla’s Battery Supply Chain Highlighted In New Report
    https://insideevs.com/news/681303/tesla-reliance-china-battery-supply-chain/

    Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, with its sizeable subsidies for 'green' manufacturing, has actually started the US down the road in addressing the issue (and incentivised the EU to do likewise).

    God knows where we'd be under a second term Trump.

    So an America First industrial policy is good as long as it's not Trump doing it?
    Trump never did an America First industrial policy.

    Simply shouting "America First", being rude about non-white people, and cutting taxes on the wealthy while doing nothing about business investment does not amount to an industrial strategy.

    Biden has had a strategy to encourage investment, changed the tax system with his unfortunately named IRA, and the market has responded accordingly.

    What did Trump do?
    Trump broke with the orthodoxy of free trade agreements and imposed large tariffs on strategically significant imports.
    Yeah, you might need to double check your work on that.

    Tariffs on strategic imports is something President's have messed around with for a long time. The (from memory) steel dispute that got resolved post Brexit which saw us facing hefty steel tariffs when we were in the EU was a dispute with tariffs that went back about twenty years.

    Trump used the same tools other Presidents had used for decades. He didn't pass any legislature or reforms or tax/subsidy changes to encourage investment.
  • Nigelb said:

    Not just Tesla.

    China’s Grip On Tesla’s Battery Supply Chain Highlighted In New Report
    https://insideevs.com/news/681303/tesla-reliance-china-battery-supply-chain/

    Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, with its sizeable subsidies for 'green' manufacturing, has actually started the US down the road in addressing the issue (and incentivised the EU to do likewise).

    God knows where we'd be under a second term Trump.

    So an America First industrial policy is good as long as it's not Trump doing it?
    Trump never did an America First industrial policy.

    Simply shouting "America First", being rude about non-white people, and cutting taxes on the wealthy while doing nothing about business investment does not amount to an industrial strategy.

    Biden has had a strategy to encourage investment, changed the tax system with his unfortunately named IRA, and the market has responded accordingly.

    What did Trump do?
    Trump broke with the orthodoxy of free trade agreements and imposed large tariffs on strategically significant imports.
    The percentage* of US voters backing Trump on 2020 was smaller than the percentage* of UK voters backing Brexit in 2016.

    * of those expressing a preference
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,278

    Nigelb said:

    Not just Tesla.

    China’s Grip On Tesla’s Battery Supply Chain Highlighted In New Report
    https://insideevs.com/news/681303/tesla-reliance-china-battery-supply-chain/

    Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, with its sizeable subsidies for 'green' manufacturing, has actually started the US down the road in addressing the issue (and incentivised the EU to do likewise).

    God knows where we'd be under a second term Trump.

    So an America First industrial policy is good as long as it's not Trump doing it?
    Trump never did an America First industrial policy.

    Simply shouting "America First", being rude about non-white people, and cutting taxes on the wealthy while doing nothing about business investment does not amount to an industrial strategy.

    Biden has had a strategy to encourage investment, changed the tax system with his unfortunately named IRA, and the market has responded accordingly.

    What did Trump do?
    Trump broke with the orthodoxy of free trade agreements and imposed large tariffs on strategically significant imports.
    Which was inflationary...
    You could say the same about any policy other than buying from the cheapest possible supplier.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,283

    Nigelb said:

    Not just Tesla.

    China’s Grip On Tesla’s Battery Supply Chain Highlighted In New Report
    https://insideevs.com/news/681303/tesla-reliance-china-battery-supply-chain/

    Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, with its sizeable subsidies for 'green' manufacturing, has actually started the US down the road in addressing the issue (and incentivised the EU to do likewise).

    God knows where we'd be under a second term Trump.

    So an America First industrial policy is good as long as it's not Trump doing it?
    Trump never did an America First industrial policy.

    Simply shouting "America First", being rude about non-white people, and cutting taxes on the wealthy while doing nothing about business investment does not amount to an industrial strategy.

    Biden has had a strategy to encourage investment, changed the tax system with his unfortunately named IRA, and the market has responded accordingly.

    What did Trump do?
    Trump broke with the orthodoxy of free trade agreements and imposed large tariffs on strategically significant imports.
    Which was inflationary...
    You could say the same about any policy other than buying from the cheapest possible supplier.
    Would you describe yourself as a Trump supporter or Trump apologist?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,139

    Nigelb said:

    Not just Tesla.

    China’s Grip On Tesla’s Battery Supply Chain Highlighted In New Report
    https://insideevs.com/news/681303/tesla-reliance-china-battery-supply-chain/

    Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, with its sizeable subsidies for 'green' manufacturing, has actually started the US down the road in addressing the issue (and incentivised the EU to do likewise).

    God knows where we'd be under a second term Trump.

    So an America First industrial policy is good as long as it's not Trump doing it?
    Trump never did an America First industrial policy.

    Simply shouting "America First", being rude about non-white people, and cutting taxes on the wealthy while doing nothing about business investment does not amount to an industrial strategy.

    Biden has had a strategy to encourage investment, changed the tax system with his unfortunately named IRA, and the market has responded accordingly.

    What did Trump do?
    Trump broke with the orthodoxy of free trade agreements and imposed large tariffs on strategically significant imports.
    Which was inflationary...
    You could say the same about any policy other than buying from the cheapest possible supplier.
    Indeed. But as inflation is regressive, the poorest suffered most. African Americans and MAGA supporting residents of the trailer park.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,567
    edited August 2023

    Nigelb said:

    This morning’s first attempt at witness intimidation.
    https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1691074321584701440

    Initially read that as witless
    I think it was French & Saunders who parodied Silent Witness as "Witless Silence" :lol:
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,139

    Nigelb said:

    This morning’s first attempt at witness intimidation.
    https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1691074321584701440

    Initially read that as witless
    I think it was Dawn & French who parodied Silent Witness as "Witless Silence" :lol:
    Were they a bit like Jennifer and Saunders?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,952
    Trump is a narcissistic sociopath rather than a fascist.

    He's not more interested in an ideology than he is himself.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,283

    HYUFD said:

    DavidL said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    As is traditional. The sun is finally coming out in Falmouth

    …. But my older daughter is still determined to go to St Andrews or York. Ah well

    I grew up in St Andrews and can't understand why anyone would voluntarily spend four years of their youth there, but each to their own.
    Miklosvar said:

    Leon said:

    As is traditional. The sun is finally coming out in Falmouth

    …. But my older daughter is still determined to go to St Andrews or York. Ah well

    Get her to look really really seriously at the reality of accommodation in both places. St A may be lovely but the undergraduates are all commuting from Dundee
    Just told her. Now she’s grumpy
    They have built a lot more undergraduate accommodation on the edge of St Andrews in the last 3 or 4 years. It is modern block but it is handy for the campus. I don't think many commute from Dundee now. Indeed one of my pal's sons in the village stayed in student accommodation throughout his degree even although he had a car.
    My parents just sold their house to a terribly posh woman from London who bought it for her daughter to live in while she is at Uni in St Andrews. Students have taken over much of the accommodation in the town.
    I shouldn't be too negative about St Andrews, as others have noted it is rated highly for student satisfaction and is a beautiful town with a unique character. I was sad to see my folks move out.
    St Andrews is so posh now, it even has more ex private school pupils as a percentage of students than both Oxford and Cambridge and almost as many ex private school pupils as Durham. Plus of course it is the alma mater of the Prince and Princess of Wales
    https://thetab.com/uk/2022/09/16/these-are-the-universities-with-the-most-private-school-students-2022-273947
    Even when I was a kid St Andrews was stuffed full of yahs. I used to work in a restaurant when I was at school and it's given me a life-long aversion to the privately educated.
    Oh dear! I award @OnlyLivingBoy the McCain's chippiest Wanker Award 2023.

    I am sure people with your type of blind prejudice might cause others to put you in a pigeon hole and assume all people who come from whatever background you come from are complete wankers too.

    More intelligent people, on the other hand, tend to realise that there are good and ill from all types of upbringing.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,278

    Nigelb said:

    Not just Tesla.

    China’s Grip On Tesla’s Battery Supply Chain Highlighted In New Report
    https://insideevs.com/news/681303/tesla-reliance-china-battery-supply-chain/

    Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, with its sizeable subsidies for 'green' manufacturing, has actually started the US down the road in addressing the issue (and incentivised the EU to do likewise).

    God knows where we'd be under a second term Trump.

    So an America First industrial policy is good as long as it's not Trump doing it?
    Trump never did an America First industrial policy.

    Simply shouting "America First", being rude about non-white people, and cutting taxes on the wealthy while doing nothing about business investment does not amount to an industrial strategy.

    Biden has had a strategy to encourage investment, changed the tax system with his unfortunately named IRA, and the market has responded accordingly.

    What did Trump do?
    Trump broke with the orthodoxy of free trade agreements and imposed large tariffs on strategically significant imports.
    Which was inflationary...
    You could say the same about any policy other than buying from the cheapest possible supplier.
    Indeed. But as inflation is regressive, the poorest suffered most. African Americans and MAGA supporting residents of the trailer park.
    That's a strange use of the past tense given that US inflation didn't pick up until after covid when Biden was in office. Are you blaming it on Trump's industrial policy?
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,409

    Nigelb said:

    Not just Tesla.

    China’s Grip On Tesla’s Battery Supply Chain Highlighted In New Report
    https://insideevs.com/news/681303/tesla-reliance-china-battery-supply-chain/

    Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, with its sizeable subsidies for 'green' manufacturing, has actually started the US down the road in addressing the issue (and incentivised the EU to do likewise).

    God knows where we'd be under a second term Trump.

    So an America First industrial policy is good as long as it's not Trump doing it?
    Trump never did an America First industrial policy.

    Simply shouting "America First", being rude about non-white people, and cutting taxes on the wealthy while doing nothing about business investment does not amount to an industrial strategy.

    Biden has had a strategy to encourage investment, changed the tax system with his unfortunately named IRA, and the market has responded accordingly.

    What did Trump do?
    Trump broke with the orthodoxy of free trade agreements and imposed large tariffs on strategically significant imports.
    Which was inflationary...
    You could say the same about any policy other than buying from the cheapest possible supplier.
    Would you describe yourself as a Trump supporter or Trump apologist?
    William is:

    A liberal EU federalist
    A frothing Hillary-obsessed Trumpian Maga-ite
    A rightwing Brexiteer

    I realised some time ago that it's a spoof account
  • New Thread

  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,283

    Trump is a narcissistic sociopath rather than a fascist.

    He's not more interested in an ideology than he is himself.

    Fascism comes in different guises.

    This is the definition from Wiki: Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3]

    Give Trump and his supporters a second term and this description will be on the nail. The only thing on that list he didnt achieve was militarism. Give him time.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,139

    Nigelb said:

    Not just Tesla.

    China’s Grip On Tesla’s Battery Supply Chain Highlighted In New Report
    https://insideevs.com/news/681303/tesla-reliance-china-battery-supply-chain/

    Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, with its sizeable subsidies for 'green' manufacturing, has actually started the US down the road in addressing the issue (and incentivised the EU to do likewise).

    God knows where we'd be under a second term Trump.

    So an America First industrial policy is good as long as it's not Trump doing it?
    Trump never did an America First industrial policy.

    Simply shouting "America First", being rude about non-white people, and cutting taxes on the wealthy while doing nothing about business investment does not amount to an industrial strategy.

    Biden has had a strategy to encourage investment, changed the tax system with his unfortunately named IRA, and the market has responded accordingly.

    What did Trump do?
    Trump broke with the orthodoxy of free trade agreements and imposed large tariffs on strategically significant imports.
    Which was inflationary...
    You could say the same about any policy other than buying from the cheapest possible supplier.
    Indeed. But as inflation is regressive, the poorest suffered most. African Americans and MAGA supporting residents of the trailer park.
    That's a strange use of the past tense given that US inflation didn't pick up until after covid when Biden was in office. Are you blaming it on Trump's industrial policy?
    I am making the correlation that the imposition of trade friction (including tariffs) is inflationary. We can see that from the loss of frictionless trade since Brexit (predominantly non-tariff barriers). Inflation is often a lagging indicator.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,135

    Nigelb said:

    This morning’s first attempt at witness intimidation.
    https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1691074321584701440

    Initially read that as witless
    I think it was French & Saunders who parodied Silent Witness as "Witless Silence" :lol:
    This thread has descended into

    witless silence.

  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,678

    HYUFD said:

    DavidL said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    As is traditional. The sun is finally coming out in Falmouth

    …. But my older daughter is still determined to go to St Andrews or York. Ah well

    I grew up in St Andrews and can't understand why anyone would voluntarily spend four years of their youth there, but each to their own.
    Miklosvar said:

    Leon said:

    As is traditional. The sun is finally coming out in Falmouth

    …. But my older daughter is still determined to go to St Andrews or York. Ah well

    Get her to look really really seriously at the reality of accommodation in both places. St A may be lovely but the undergraduates are all commuting from Dundee
    Just told her. Now she’s grumpy
    They have built a lot more undergraduate accommodation on the edge of St Andrews in the last 3 or 4 years. It is modern block but it is handy for the campus. I don't think many commute from Dundee now. Indeed one of my pal's sons in the village stayed in student accommodation throughout his degree even although he had a car.
    My parents just sold their house to a terribly posh woman from London who bought it for her daughter to live in while she is at Uni in St Andrews. Students have taken over much of the accommodation in the town.
    I shouldn't be too negative about St Andrews, as others have noted it is rated highly for student satisfaction and is a beautiful town with a unique character. I was sad to see my folks move out.
    St Andrews is so posh now, it even has more ex private school pupils as a percentage of students than both Oxford and Cambridge and almost as many ex private school pupils as Durham. Plus of course it is the alma mater of the Prince and Princess of Wales
    https://thetab.com/uk/2022/09/16/these-are-the-universities-with-the-most-private-school-students-2022-273947
    Even when I was a kid St Andrews was stuffed full of yahs. I used to work in a restaurant when I was at school and it's given me a life-long aversion to the privately educated.
    Oh dear! I award @OnlyLivingBoy the McCain's chippiest Wanker Award 2023.

    I am sure people with your type of blind prejudice might cause others to put you in a pigeon hole and assume all people who come from whatever background you come from are complete wankers too.

    More intelligent people, on the other hand, tend to realise that there are good and ill from all types of upbringing.
    I'm working through my issues, but stuff you experience as a child has a more lasting impact - think of me as a kid who got bitten by a dog and still doesn't like dogs. Maybe it would help if some of these people weren't so obnoxious to people they consider their inferiors, then they wouldn't leave a trail of "chippy" people in their wake.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,139
    edited August 2023

    Nigelb said:

    Not just Tesla.

    China’s Grip On Tesla’s Battery Supply Chain Highlighted In New Report
    https://insideevs.com/news/681303/tesla-reliance-china-battery-supply-chain/

    Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, with its sizeable subsidies for 'green' manufacturing, has actually started the US down the road in addressing the issue (and incentivised the EU to do likewise).

    God knows where we'd be under a second term Trump.

    So an America First industrial policy is good as long as it's not Trump doing it?
    Trump never did an America First industrial policy.

    Simply shouting "America First", being rude about non-white people, and cutting taxes on the wealthy while doing nothing about business investment does not amount to an industrial strategy.

    Biden has had a strategy to encourage investment, changed the tax system with his unfortunately named IRA, and the market has responded accordingly.

    What did Trump do?
    Trump broke with the orthodoxy of free trade agreements and imposed large tariffs on strategically significant imports.
    Which was inflationary...
    You could say the same about any policy other than buying from the cheapest possible supplier.
    Would you describe yourself as a Trump supporter or Trump apologist?
    William is:

    A liberal EU federalist
    A frothing Hillary-obsessed Trumpian Maga-ite
    A rightwing Remainer and Brexiteer

    I realised some time ago that it's a spoof account
    Fixed that for you. Although the rest is all true.

  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,952

    HYUFD said:

    DavidL said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    As is traditional. The sun is finally coming out in Falmouth

    …. But my older daughter is still determined to go to St Andrews or York. Ah well

    I grew up in St Andrews and can't understand why anyone would voluntarily spend four years of their youth there, but each to their own.
    Miklosvar said:

    Leon said:

    As is traditional. The sun is finally coming out in Falmouth

    …. But my older daughter is still determined to go to St Andrews or York. Ah well

    Get her to look really really seriously at the reality of accommodation in both places. St A may be lovely but the undergraduates are all commuting from Dundee
    Just told her. Now she’s grumpy
    They have built a lot more undergraduate accommodation on the edge of St Andrews in the last 3 or 4 years. It is modern block but it is handy for the campus. I don't think many commute from Dundee now. Indeed one of my pal's sons in the village stayed in student accommodation throughout his degree even although he had a car.
    My parents just sold their house to a terribly posh woman from London who bought it for her daughter to live in while she is at Uni in St Andrews. Students have taken over much of the accommodation in the town.
    I shouldn't be too negative about St Andrews, as others have noted it is rated highly for student satisfaction and is a beautiful town with a unique character. I was sad to see my folks move out.
    St Andrews is so posh now, it even has more ex private school pupils as a percentage of students than both Oxford and Cambridge and almost as many ex private school pupils as Durham. Plus of course it is the alma mater of the Prince and Princess of Wales
    https://thetab.com/uk/2022/09/16/these-are-the-universities-with-the-most-private-school-students-2022-273947
    Even when I was a kid St Andrews was stuffed full of yahs. I used to work in a restaurant when I was at school and it's given me a life-long aversion to the privately educated.
    Oh dear! I award @OnlyLivingBoy the McCain's chippiest Wanker Award 2023.

    I am sure people with your type of blind prejudice might cause others to put you in a pigeon hole and assume all people who come from whatever background you come from are complete wankers too.

    More intelligent people, on the other hand, tend to realise that there are good and ill from all types of upbringing.
    I'm working through my issues, but stuff you experience as a child has a more lasting impact - think of me as a kid who got bitten by a dog and still doesn't like dogs. Maybe it would help if some of these people weren't so obnoxious to people they consider their inferiors, then they wouldn't leave a trail of "chippy" people in their wake.
    The British are obsessed by class, and that works both ways.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,441

    Nigelb said:

    Not just Tesla.

    China’s Grip On Tesla’s Battery Supply Chain Highlighted In New Report
    https://insideevs.com/news/681303/tesla-reliance-china-battery-supply-chain/

    Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, with its sizeable subsidies for 'green' manufacturing, has actually started the US down the road in addressing the issue (and incentivised the EU to do likewise).

    God knows where we'd be under a second term Trump.

    So an America First industrial policy is good as long as it's not Trump doing it?
    Most of the GOP voted against it.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,942

    HYUFD said:

    DavidL said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    As is traditional. The sun is finally coming out in Falmouth

    …. But my older daughter is still determined to go to St Andrews or York. Ah well

    I grew up in St Andrews and can't understand why anyone would voluntarily spend four years of their youth there, but each to their own.
    Miklosvar said:

    Leon said:

    As is traditional. The sun is finally coming out in Falmouth

    …. But my older daughter is still determined to go to St Andrews or York. Ah well

    Get her to look really really seriously at the reality of accommodation in both places. St A may be lovely but the undergraduates are all commuting from Dundee
    Just told her. Now she’s grumpy
    They have built a lot more undergraduate accommodation on the edge of St Andrews in the last 3 or 4 years. It is modern block but it is handy for the campus. I don't think many commute from Dundee now. Indeed one of my pal's sons in the village stayed in student accommodation throughout his degree even although he had a car.
    My parents just sold their house to a terribly posh woman from London who bought it for her daughter to live in while she is at Uni in St Andrews. Students have taken over much of the accommodation in the town.
    I shouldn't be too negative about St Andrews, as others have noted it is rated highly for student satisfaction and is a beautiful town with a unique character. I was sad to see my folks move out.
    St Andrews is so posh now, it even has more ex private school pupils as a percentage of students than both Oxford and Cambridge and almost as many ex private school pupils as Durham. Plus of course it is the alma mater of the Prince and Princess of Wales
    https://thetab.com/uk/2022/09/16/these-are-the-universities-with-the-most-private-school-students-2022-273947
    Even when I was a kid St Andrews was stuffed full of yahs. I used to work in a restaurant when I was at school and it's given me a life-long aversion to the privately educated.
    Oh dear! I award @OnlyLivingBoy the McCain's chippiest Wanker Award 2023.

    I am sure people with your type of blind prejudice might cause others to put you in a pigeon hole and assume all people who come from whatever background you come from are complete wankers too.

    More intelligent people, on the other hand, tend to realise that there are good and ill from all types of upbringing.
    I'm working through my issues, but stuff you experience as a child has a more lasting impact - think of me as a kid who got bitten by a dog and still doesn't like dogs. Maybe it would help if some of these people weren't so obnoxious to people they consider their inferiors, then they wouldn't leave a trail of "chippy" people in their wake.
    That's me! Although not so much dislike as 'anxious around and would never have as a pet'. Same applies to ex private schoolboys for that matter.
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