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The strikes: The Tories are struggling to win public support – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 11,002
edited December 2022 in General
The strikes: The Tories are struggling to win public support – politicalbetting.com

Significant majority support for both the nurses and ambulance strikes, ?@YouGov? finds, as opposed to rail strikes (which is draining). The Government will lose both disputes humiliatingly unless it wins round public opinion, and it’s inflation argument isn’t working. pic.twitter.com/AkjCAC4kQ1

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  • MattWMattW Posts: 18,087
    edited December 2022
    First.

    Yet again.

    Now - off on a Rodent Hunt.
  • Everybody has an exactly equal entitlement to fair pay. I doubt the actual merits of any of the claims enter into this result at all, it is a mawkishness index.

    I do feel sorry for the surely blameless driving examiners. It does seem the Great British Public welcomes threats to its life but has no time for petty inconvenience.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited December 2022
    China has reported no new Covid deaths on Tuesday...

    The crematoriums operating 24/7, they aren't burning the bodies of COVID patients, they are just operating as community centres where people go to keep warm....

    If you are going to fiddle your numbers as least make them vaguely plausable.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 43,620
    MattW said:

    First.

    Yet again.

    Now - off on a Rodent Hunt.

    The recommended methodology for dealing with rodent infestations - https://youtu.be/U0Hx5ka1FiA
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,842
    You have to wonder if there is a hint of trying to 'break the Tories' about all these strikes. Not the main reason obviously, but lurking, round the edges..
  • TazTaz Posts: 10,703
    Pulpstar said:

    You have to wonder if there is a hint of trying to 'break the Tories' about all these strikes. Not the main reason obviously, but lurking, round the edges..

    Moreso with some of the flag wavers for the strikes on the fringes of the labour movement and social media.

    Interesting, but not surprising, to see opposition to the rail strikes growing. Striking over last weekend was a really shabby thing to do given the issues with hospitality and city centres in general over the previous three years and the "nasty man made me do it" argument is not working.

    I expect similar with the postal workers now they are striking, in spite an offer of talks, on the 23rd and 24th.
  • TazTaz Posts: 10,703
    It is not just England. The Welsh and Scottish govts are having similar issues with the health service. Scottish nurses have just rejected a 7.5% increase.

    The ham fisted way the Westminster govt have handled the dispute in England is giving the devolved administration a free run.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64052327?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited December 2022
    Apparently "balls to the wall" is problematic phrase according to the Stanford nonsense...

    https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/status/1605027934095347712

    Except the balls being referred to have nothing to do with your testicles, it comes from the ball shaped grips on an aircraft's joystick and throttle, where balls to the wall was to push the plane to maximum speed analogous to pedal to the metal for cars.

    From last year, there is some cracker in here along the same lines...

    The Holier-Than-Thou Crusade in San Francisco - The city’s move to rename schools will provide invaluable ammunition to Fox News.

    The committee’s research seems to have consisted mostly of cursory Google searches, and the sources cited were primarily Wikipedia entries or similar. Historians were not consulted. Embarrassing errors of interpretation were made, as well as rudimentary factual errors. Robert Louis Stevenson, perhaps the most beloved literary figure in the city’s history, was canceled because in a poem titled “Foreign Children” in his famous collection A Child’s Garden of Verses, he used the rhyming word Japanee for Japanese. Paul Revere Elementary School ended up on the renaming list because, during the discussion, a committee member misread a History.com article as claiming that Revere had taken part in an expedition that stole the lands of the Penobscot Indians. In fact, the article described Revere’s role in the Penobscot Expedition, a disastrous American military campaign against the British during the Revolutionary War. (That expedition was named after a bay in Maine.) But no one bothered to check, the committee voted to rename the school, and by order of the San Francisco school board Paul Revere will now ride into oblivion.

    The committee also failed to consistently apply its one-strike-and-you’re-out rule. When one member questioned whether Malcolm X Academy should be renamed in light of the fact that Malcolm was once a pimp, and therefore subjugated women, the committee decided that his later career redeemed his earlier missteps. Yet no such exceptions were made for Lincoln, Jefferson, and others on the list.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/02/san-francisco-renaming-spree/617894/
  • TazTaz Posts: 10,703

    Apparently "balls to the wall" is problematic phrase according to the Stanford nonsense...

    https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/status/1605027934095347712

    Except the balls being referred to have nothing to do with your testicles, it comes from the ball shaped grips on an aircraft's joystick and throttle, where balls to the wall was to push the plane to maximum speed analogous to pedal to the metal for cars.

    From last year, there is some cracker in here along the same lines...

    The Holier-Than-Thou Crusade in San Francisco - The city’s move to rename schools will provide invaluable ammunition to Fox News.

    The committee’s research seems to have consisted mostly of cursory Google searches, and the sources cited were primarily Wikipedia entries or similar. Historians were not consulted. Embarrassing errors of interpretation were made, as well as rudimentary factual errors. Robert Louis Stevenson, perhaps the most beloved literary figure in the city’s history, was canceled because in a poem titled “Foreign Children” in his famous collection A Child’s Garden of Verses, he used the rhyming word Japanee for Japanese. Paul Revere Elementary School ended up on the renaming list because, during the discussion, a committee member misread a History.com article as claiming that Revere had taken part in an expedition that stole the lands of the Penobscot Indians. In fact, the article described Revere’s role in the Penobscot Expedition, a disastrous American military campaign against the British during the Revolutionary War. (That expedition was named after a bay in Maine.) But no one bothered to check, the committee voted to rename the school, and by order of the San Francisco school board Paul Revere will now ride into oblivion.

    The committee also failed to consistently apply its one-strike-and-you’re-out rule. When one member questioned whether Malcolm X Academy should be renamed in light of the fact that Malcolm was once a pimp, and therefore subjugated women, the committee decided that his later career redeemed his earlier missteps. Yet no such exceptions were made for Lincoln, Jefferson, and others on the list.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/02/san-francisco-renaming-spree/617894/

    This nonsense is only going to gather pace in 2023, isn't it !!!!
  • NerysHughesNerysHughes Posts: 3,346
    Taz said:

    It is not just England. The Welsh and Scottish govts are having similar issues with the health service. Scottish nurses have just rejected a 7.5% increase.

    The ham fisted way the Westminster govt have handled the dispute in England is giving the devolved administration a free run.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64052327?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

    Im am very suprised they have rejected 7.5%, that seemed a good offer
  • TazTaz Posts: 10,703

    MattW said:

    First.

    Yet again.

    Now - off on a Rodent Hunt.

    The recommended methodology for dealing with rodent infestations - https://youtu.be/U0Hx5ka1FiA
    My brother in law used to breed Patterdale Terriers. They were awesome ratting dogs. Grab them, one flick, neck snapped.

    Mind you he also used to go lamping and had to stop that when New Labour implemented the foxhunting ban which may not be ideal legislation but wound up the right people.
  • TazTaz Posts: 10,703

    Taz said:

    It is not just England. The Welsh and Scottish govts are having similar issues with the health service. Scottish nurses have just rejected a 7.5% increase.

    The ham fisted way the Westminster govt have handled the dispute in England is giving the devolved administration a free run.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64052327?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

    Im am very suprised they have rejected 7.5%, that seemed a good offer
    Yes, other health unions, Unite and Unison, have accepted it too in Scotland. A decent deal which should not be inflationary.

    I had thought they may have accepted it given that.



  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 49,958

    Taz said:

    It is not just England. The Welsh and Scottish govts are having similar issues with the health service. Scottish nurses have just rejected a 7.5% increase.

    The ham fisted way the Westminster govt have handled the dispute in England is giving the devolved administration a free run.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64052327?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

    Im am very suprised they have rejected 7.5%, that seemed a good offer
    7.5% should be the offer across the board.

    With perhaps a further 2% paid later if inflation remains above a specified limit on 1st July.

    Anything above these number, the nurses can't win. Because the Govt. cannot concede the war on inflation. Even to cuddly nurses, holding arms full of kittens.


    The workers who have most earned my respect in recent days were the electrical cable guys, restoring power to high voltage cables in minus degree temperatures and 50 mph winds. No fussing, just getting on with putting the lights back on.

  • I thought I had had COVID for the second time in 4 months, instead it seems I have this f##ker (its been far worse than COVID).

    https://www.timeout.com/uk/news/why-is-everyone-coming-down-with-the-same-horrid-monster-cold-122022
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 41,674

    Taz said:

    It is not just England. The Welsh and Scottish govts are having similar issues with the health service. Scottish nurses have just rejected a 7.5% increase.

    The ham fisted way the Westminster govt have handled the dispute in England is giving the devolved administration a free run.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64052327?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

    Im am very suprised they have rejected 7.5%, that seemed a good offer
    Madness , they will lose any sympathy turning down offers like that.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 49,958

    I thought I had had COVID for the second time in 4 months, instead it seems I have this f##ker (its been far worse than COVID).

    https://www.timeout.com/uk/news/why-is-everyone-coming-down-with-the-same-horrid-monster-cold-122022

    About 10 days into it. Had three days in bed at the start. Still feel weak as a kitten (although a kitten could, unlike me, still shimmy up the curtains). Just about through the worst I reckon, although still quite breathless if I do any exercise. Most of the muscle aches have gone, thankfully. Tis indeed a f##ker.

    The Good Lady Wife is about three days behind me in her travails with it.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited December 2022

    I thought I had had COVID for the second time in 4 months, instead it seems I have this f##ker (its been far worse than COVID).

    https://www.timeout.com/uk/news/why-is-everyone-coming-down-with-the-same-horrid-monster-cold-122022

    About 10 days into it. Had three days in bed at the start. Still feel weak as a kitten (although a kitten could, unlike me, still shimmy up the curtains). Just about through the worst I reckon, although still quite breathless if I do any exercise. Most of the muscle aches have gone, thankfully. Tis indeed a f##ker.

    The Good Lady Wife is about three days behind me in her travails with it.
    Yeah the breathlessness and muscle aches in particular is what made me think I had the old COVID. I just presumed, kept myself to myself, but Mrs U has gone down with it and decided to test and was negative.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,709
    edited December 2022
    So majority support for the nurses and ambulance workers strike still but less than majority support for the postal workers strike.

    More voters also oppose the rail workers and baggage handlers strike than support them.

    The government should therefore focus on some deal with the nurses, maybe a one off additional payment, while ignoring the rest
  • eekeek Posts: 24,797
    malcolmg said:

    Taz said:

    It is not just England. The Welsh and Scottish govts are having similar issues with the health service. Scottish nurses have just rejected a 7.5% increase.

    The ham fisted way the Westminster govt have handled the dispute in England is giving the devolved administration a free run.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64052327?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

    Im am very suprised they have rejected 7.5%, that seemed a good offer
    Madness , they will lose any sympathy turning down offers like that.
    Bad reporting - it was an average of 7.5% - with the lowest paid getting 11.3% and high paid workers getting a fixed amount.

    Given that the vote to reject the offer was 82% I suspect there is a lot of long term ill will being vented here.
  • Taz said:

    MattW said:

    First.

    Yet again.

    Now - off on a Rodent Hunt.

    The recommended methodology for dealing with rodent infestations - https://youtu.be/U0Hx5ka1FiA
    My brother in law used to breed Patterdale Terriers. They were awesome ratting dogs. Grab them, one flick, neck snapped.

    Mind you he also used to go lamping and had to stop that when New Labour implemented the foxhunting ban which may not be ideal legislation but wound up the right people.
    Lamping with dogs is not illegal in England as long as it is only rabbits or rats.
  • I was part of a WWI re-enact group and I simply tripped and fell into a trench whereby the shell became lodged.......

    Man, 88, sparks hospital evacuation in France after arriving with a WWI artillery shell stuck in his rectum

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562045/French-man-sparks-hospital-evacuation-arriving-WWI-artillery-shell-stuck-rectum.html

  • Andy_JS said:

    Happy birthday to me today.

    Happy birthday Andy. Hope you have a cracking day. Hopefully you have not yet reached the age where birthdays are something to be regretted rather than celebrated.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 24,585

    I was part of a WWI re-enact group and I simply tripped and fell into a trench whereby the shell became lodged.......

    Man, 88, sparks hospital evacuation in France after arriving with a WWI artillery shell stuck in his rectum

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562045/French-man-sparks-hospital-evacuation-arriving-WWI-artillery-shell-stuck-rectum.html

    What an absolute pain in the ar$e.
  • I was part of a WWI re-enact group and I simply tripped and fell into a trench whereby the shell became lodged.......

    Man, 88, sparks hospital evacuation in France after arriving with a WWI artillery shell stuck in his rectum

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562045/French-man-sparks-hospital-evacuation-arriving-WWI-artillery-shell-stuck-rectum.html

    What an absolute pain in the ar$e.
    Should we be impressed at the ripe old age of 88, he is still up for such "specialist" activities?
  • CookieCookie Posts: 11,184

    I was part of a WWI re-enact group and I simply tripped and fell into a trench whereby the shell became lodged.......

    Man, 88, sparks hospital evacuation in France after arriving with a WWI artillery shell stuck in his rectum

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562045/French-man-sparks-hospital-evacuation-arriving-WWI-artillery-shell-stuck-rectum.html

    Ordinarily, the 'tripped and fell' stories of people who arrive at hospital with improbable objects shoved up their arse invite mirth. But surely even the most enthusiastic anal inserter wouldn't be trying out their hobby with a WW1 artillery shell. I'm narrowly inclined to believe this was a genuine accident, implausible though it seems.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited December 2022
    The Sun will protect Jeremy Clarkson. Who will protect women who suffer violence every day?

    In the wake of Clarkson’s diatribe, we urgently need to challenge the role the media plays in perpetuating misogynistic attitudes

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/21/the-sun-jeremy-clarkson-women-media

    -----

    In a discussion about the milkshake’s unlikely transformation into a tool of protest – I think I truly out-lefted myself when I tutted about the food waste – Brand drily remarked: “I’m thinking, why bother with a milkshake when you could get some battery acid?”

    Brand, asked to be on the panel to be humorous because she is a comedian, who tells jokes, which sometimes involve exaggeration or saying things that are taboo, not because they are the truth but because they are funny, found herself dragged over the coals.

    They manufactured hurt feelings to gain political ground, which is a snowflake move if ever there was one. This deliberate false offence popped up again last week, when Philip Pullman tweeted: “When I hear the name ‘Boris Johnson’, for some reason the words ‘rope’ and ‘nearest lamp-post’ come to mind as well.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/31/jo-brand-such-a-mistake-to-take-comedians-seriously
  • Cookie said:

    I was part of a WWI re-enact group and I simply tripped and fell into a trench whereby the shell became lodged.......

    Man, 88, sparks hospital evacuation in France after arriving with a WWI artillery shell stuck in his rectum

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562045/French-man-sparks-hospital-evacuation-arriving-WWI-artillery-shell-stuck-rectum.html

    Ordinarily, the 'tripped and fell' stories of people who arrive at hospital with improbable objects shoved up their arse invite mirth. But surely even the most enthusiastic anal inserter wouldn't be trying out their hobby with a WW1 artillery shell. I'm narrowly inclined to believe this was a genuine accident, implausible though it seems.
    I was joking, in this case it appears he admitted it was because he got sexual pleasure from it.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,146

    I was part of a WWI re-enact group and I simply tripped and fell into a trench whereby the shell became lodged.......

    Man, 88, sparks hospital evacuation in France after arriving with a WWI artillery shell stuck in his rectum

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562045/French-man-sparks-hospital-evacuation-arriving-WWI-artillery-shell-stuck-rectum.html

    You shopuld have used quotation marks! I'm so disappointed now on further reading!

    Really stuck (so to speak) on what that is - possibly a 1930s Boehler 47mm antitank or some sort of 57mm 6 pounder, but it's too short for a Hotchkiss.
  • Cookie said:

    I was part of a WWI re-enact group and I simply tripped and fell into a trench whereby the shell became lodged.......

    Man, 88, sparks hospital evacuation in France after arriving with a WWI artillery shell stuck in his rectum

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562045/French-man-sparks-hospital-evacuation-arriving-WWI-artillery-shell-stuck-rectum.html

    Ordinarily, the 'tripped and fell' stories of people who arrive at hospital with improbable objects shoved up their arse invite mirth. But surely even the most enthusiastic anal inserter wouldn't be trying out their hobby with a WW1 artillery shell. I'm narrowly inclined to believe this was a genuine accident, implausible though it seems.
    «Il a ensuite fallu traiter notre patient atypique, qui a d’emblée assuré que l’obus était démilitarisé», a indiqué un membre du personnel des urgences à Nice Matin.

    https://www.cnews.fr/faits-divers/2022-12-20/toulon-il-arrive-aux-urgences-avec-un-obus-dans-lanus-lhopital-est-evacue

    But they erred on the side of caution. Bomb squad confirm it is safe

    Après analyse, les démineurs ont écarté tout risque d’explosion.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,901
    Sunak really has screwed up the response to the strikes.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 14,878

    I thought I had had COVID for the second time in 4 months, instead it seems I have this f##ker (its been far worse than COVID).

    https://www.timeout.com/uk/news/why-is-everyone-coming-down-with-the-same-horrid-monster-cold-122022

    Sympathies.

    Lots of people got I’ll in winter before covid came along. Lots are getting colds now too. I’ve had two in four months, both happily mild. Trouble is people have started fixated a bit, especially in the media.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,522

    I thought I had had COVID for the second time in 4 months, instead it seems I have this f##ker (its been far worse than COVID).

    https://www.timeout.com/uk/news/why-is-everyone-coming-down-with-the-same-horrid-monster-cold-122022

    Scientists have suggested there’s been a massive increase in ‘super colds’ (the kind of colds that mean you haven’t got out of bed in three days), and that they’re linked to a loss of immunity as a result of lockdown.

    Wow, that's a shock. That could never have been predicted.
  • I didn't realise it was SPOTY tonight.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 25,046

    The Sun will protect Jeremy Clarkson. Who will protect women who suffer violence every day?

    In the wake of Clarkson’s diatribe, we urgently need to challenge the role the media plays in perpetuating misogynistic attitudes

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/21/the-sun-jeremy-clarkson-women-media

    -----

    In a discussion about the milkshake’s unlikely transformation into a tool of protest – I think I truly out-lefted myself when I tutted about the food waste – Brand drily remarked: “I’m thinking, why bother with a milkshake when you could get some battery acid?”

    Brand, asked to be on the panel to be humorous because she is a comedian, who tells jokes, which sometimes involve exaggeration or saying things that are taboo, not because they are the truth but because they are funny, found herself dragged over the coals.

    They manufactured hurt feelings to gain political ground, which is a snowflake move if ever there was one. This deliberate false offence popped up again last week, when Philip Pullman tweeted: “When I hear the name ‘Boris Johnson’, for some reason the words ‘rope’ and ‘nearest lamp-post’ come to mind as well.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/31/jo-brand-such-a-mistake-to-take-comedians-seriously

    That Phillip Pullman has some very odd kinks.
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 1,678
    kinabalu said:

    checklist said:

    Everybody has an exactly equal entitlement to fair pay. I doubt the actual merits of any of the claims enter into this result at all, it is a mawkishness index.

    I do feel sorry for the surely blameless driving examiners. It does seem the Great British Public welcomes threats to its life but has no time for petty inconvenience.

    This is a good point. I've always had a soft spot for parking wardens. They do a tough and necessary job for not much money and get no thanks for it. Indeed they get abused and patronized on a regular basis. I've seen it again and again. Entitled people mewling "oh come on, not a ticket please, I'm going now, I'm going ..." and if they don't get their way giving it some verbals, often of the deeply offensive kind. The wardens take all this and never punch back. They stay professional despite their pay & conditions not being commensurate with any sort of professional status. Eg can they work from home? Not really. Anyway, point is, these people are heroes, out on the streets in all weathers doing what they do, delivering a genuine public service, but hardly anybody sees it this way. Ask the shallow ignorant groupthinking "public" about the contribution of traffic wardens and all you'll hear is a stream of negativity. It's pathetic.
    Even better, they can double as riot police after the nukes have fallen!
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 24,585
    ...

    The Sun will protect Jeremy Clarkson. Who will protect women who suffer violence every day?

    In the wake of Clarkson’s diatribe, we urgently need to challenge the role the media plays in perpetuating misogynistic attitudes

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/21/the-sun-jeremy-clarkson-women-media

    -----

    In a discussion about the milkshake’s unlikely transformation into a tool of protest – I think I truly out-lefted myself when I tutted about the food waste – Brand drily remarked: “I’m thinking, why bother with a milkshake when you could get some battery acid?”

    Brand, asked to be on the panel to be humorous because she is a comedian, who tells jokes, which sometimes involve exaggeration or saying things that are taboo, not because they are the truth but because they are funny, found herself dragged over the coals.

    They manufactured hurt feelings to gain political ground, which is a snowflake move if ever there was one. This deliberate false offence popped up again last week, when Philip Pullman tweeted: “When I hear the name ‘Boris Johnson’, for some reason the words ‘rope’ and ‘nearest lamp-post’ come to mind as well.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/31/jo-brand-such-a-mistake-to-take-comedians-seriously

    That Phillip Pullman has some very odd kinks.
    You could perhaps call them "His Dark Materials".
  • Pulpstar said:

    You have to wonder if there is a hint of trying to 'break the Tories' about all these strikes. Not the main reason obviously, but lurking, round the edges..

    It is.
  • I was part of a WWI re-enact group and I simply tripped and fell into a trench whereby the shell became lodged.......

    Man, 88, sparks hospital evacuation in France after arriving with a WWI artillery shell stuck in his rectum

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562045/French-man-sparks-hospital-evacuation-arriving-WWI-artillery-shell-stuck-rectum.html

    One does wonder why an 88 year old man would be interested (or indeed capable) in doing that.
  • Carnyx said:

    I was part of a WWI re-enact group and I simply tripped and fell into a trench whereby the shell became lodged.......

    Man, 88, sparks hospital evacuation in France after arriving with a WWI artillery shell stuck in his rectum

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562045/French-man-sparks-hospital-evacuation-arriving-WWI-artillery-shell-stuck-rectum.html

    You shopuld have used quotation marks! I'm so disappointed now on further reading!

    Really stuck (so to speak) on what that is - possibly a 1930s Boehler 47mm antitank or some sort of 57mm 6 pounder, but it's too short for a Hotchkiss.
    Bit of a worry if that's just the cartridge case - an entire shell would offer a smoother and more comfortable insertion.

    And how could the bombsquad possibly tell from what was visible, whether it was safe? Unless he loaded himself back to front.
  • I have never been interested in inserting anything up my bottom.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,522

    I was part of a WWI re-enact group and I simply tripped and fell into a trench whereby the shell became lodged.......

    Man, 88, sparks hospital evacuation in France after arriving with a WWI artillery shell stuck in his rectum

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562045/French-man-sparks-hospital-evacuation-arriving-WWI-artillery-shell-stuck-rectum.html

    I've heard of "explosive diarrhoea", but that's ridiculous.
  • Netflix password sharing may be illegal, says UK government
    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64003237

    Unless they have U-Turn'ed on a U-Turn this is fake news...

    The original version of this included password sharing, but it was quickly removed.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/meta-counterfeit-and-piracy-campaign
  • TazTaz Posts: 10,703

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    First.

    Yet again.

    Now - off on a Rodent Hunt.

    The recommended methodology for dealing with rodent infestations - https://youtu.be/U0Hx5ka1FiA
    My brother in law used to breed Patterdale Terriers. They were awesome ratting dogs. Grab them, one flick, neck snapped.

    Mind you he also used to go lamping and had to stop that when New Labour implemented the foxhunting ban which may not be ideal legislation but wound up the right people.
    Lamping with dogs is not illegal in England as long as it is only rabbits or rats.
    Ha ha. My brother in law stopped doing it as he thought it was. What a melt :smile:
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,092
    JohnO said:

    geoffw said:

    I have never been interested in inserting anything up my bottom.

    Quite an admission for a supposed tory.

    CR is a SupposiTory.
    He gets to the bottom of things.

  • Pulpstar said:

    You have to wonder if there is a hint of trying to 'break the Tories' about all these strikes. Not the main reason obviously, but lurking, round the edges..

    Are you suggesting breaking the Tories requires more than just watching bemused from the sidelines wondering what folly they are going to unleash on us next?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 38,851

    I have never been interested in inserting anything up my bottom.

    So long as the option is there. That's what matters.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 43,620
    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    First.

    Yet again.

    Now - off on a Rodent Hunt.

    The recommended methodology for dealing with rodent infestations - https://youtu.be/U0Hx5ka1FiA
    My brother in law used to breed Patterdale Terriers. They were awesome ratting dogs. Grab them, one flick, neck snapped.

    Mind you he also used to go lamping and had to stop that when New Labour implemented the foxhunting ban which may not be ideal legislation but wound up the right people.
    I knew someone who shot foxes as a result of the hunting ban. Paid per head by the farmers. Actually did it for fun.

    Used a replica Sharps in brass cartridge 0.50-90, hand loaded with low flash powder, with a huge flash suppressor and an Israeli night sight. Talk about blending your technologies.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 43,620

    kinabalu said:

    checklist said:

    Everybody has an exactly equal entitlement to fair pay. I doubt the actual merits of any of the claims enter into this result at all, it is a mawkishness index.

    I do feel sorry for the surely blameless driving examiners. It does seem the Great British Public welcomes threats to its life but has no time for petty inconvenience.

    This is a good point. I've always had a soft spot for parking wardens. They do a tough and necessary job for not much money and get no thanks for it. Indeed they get abused and patronized on a regular basis. I've seen it again and again. Entitled people mewling "oh come on, not a ticket please, I'm going now, I'm going ..." and if they don't get their way giving it some verbals, often of the deeply offensive kind. The wardens take all this and never punch back. They stay professional despite their pay & conditions not being commensurate with any sort of professional status. Eg can they work from home? Not really. Anyway, point is, these people are heroes, out on the streets in all weathers doing what they do, delivering a genuine public service, but hardly anybody sees it this way. Ask the shallow ignorant groupthinking "public" about the contribution of traffic wardens and all you'll hear is a stream of negativity. It's pathetic.
    Even better, they can double as riot police after the nukes have fallen!
    …With That Rifle with the wooden furniture, as God intended.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,083
    geoffw said:

    I have never been interested in inserting anything up my bottom.

    Quite an admission for a supposed tory.

    Tories get someone else to do it?
  • TazTaz Posts: 10,703

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    First.

    Yet again.

    Now - off on a Rodent Hunt.

    The recommended methodology for dealing with rodent infestations - https://youtu.be/U0Hx5ka1FiA
    My brother in law used to breed Patterdale Terriers. They were awesome ratting dogs. Grab them, one flick, neck snapped.

    Mind you he also used to go lamping and had to stop that when New Labour implemented the foxhunting ban which may not be ideal legislation but wound up the right people.
    I knew someone who shot foxes as a result of the hunting ban. Paid per head by the farmers. Actually did it for fun.

    Used a replica Sharps in brass cartridge 0.50-90, hand loaded with low flash powder, with a huge flash suppressor and an Israeli night sight. Talk about blending your technologies.
    That is quite impressive. The night sight sounds like a sledgehammer to crack a nut !
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,092
    JohnO said:

    geoffw said:

    I have never been interested in inserting anything up my bottom.

    Quite an admission for a supposed tory.

    CR is a SupposiTory.
    No way is he a biased confirmatory. But could become a transitory when in Scotland.

  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,800

    I thought I had had COVID for the second time in 4 months, instead it seems I have this f##ker (its been far worse than COVID).

    https://www.timeout.com/uk/news/why-is-everyone-coming-down-with-the-same-horrid-monster-cold-122022

    Seems to be everywhere just now - friends right across the country are all down with it. Quite often seems to leave a really bad persistent cough too. I hope it clears up for you before xmas!
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,800
    FPT on China/traditional-medicine vs. vaccines (just because I found the article quite interesting but posted it just as the thread died)

    ---

    There is quite a long, but interesting article on Slate about Chinese traditional medicine.

    https://slate.com/technology/2013/10/traditional-chinese-medicine-origins-mao-invented-it-but-didnt-believe-in-it.html
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 43,620
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    First.

    Yet again.

    Now - off on a Rodent Hunt.

    The recommended methodology for dealing with rodent infestations - https://youtu.be/U0Hx5ka1FiA
    My brother in law used to breed Patterdale Terriers. They were awesome ratting dogs. Grab them, one flick, neck snapped.

    Mind you he also used to go lamping and had to stop that when New Labour implemented the foxhunting ban which may not be ideal legislation but wound up the right people.
    I knew someone who shot foxes as a result of the hunting ban. Paid per head by the farmers. Actually did it for fun.

    Used a replica Sharps in brass cartridge 0.50-90, hand loaded with low flash powder, with a huge flash suppressor and an Israeli night sight. Talk about blending your technologies.
    That is quite impressive. The night sight sounds like a sledgehammer to crack a nut !
    The night sight was the sensible bit.

    The theory was that you wouldn’t just wound a fox with that. Either it kind of evaporated when hit, or you missed completely.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,146
    edited December 2022
    checklist said:

    Carnyx said:

    I was part of a WWI re-enact group and I simply tripped and fell into a trench whereby the shell became lodged.......

    Man, 88, sparks hospital evacuation in France after arriving with a WWI artillery shell stuck in his rectum

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562045/French-man-sparks-hospital-evacuation-arriving-WWI-artillery-shell-stuck-rectum.html

    You shopuld have used quotation marks! I'm so disappointed now on further reading!

    Really stuck (so to speak) on what that is - possibly a 1930s Boehler 47mm antitank or some sort of 57mm 6 pounder, but it's too short for a Hotchkiss.
    Bit of a worry if that's just the cartridge case - an entire shell would offer a smoother and more comfortable insertion.

    And how could the bombsquad possibly tell from what was visible, whether it was safe? Unless he loaded himself back to front.
    An entire round, to be pedantic - a fixed round is the shell (or solid shot) and cartridge with propellant [edit] in instances where they are combined and loaded as one go, like a rifle bullet and cartridge. You can see the driving band on the shell.

    It also looks as if the primer is missing from the cartridge case, ergo no propellant or at least not too easily initiated. IANAE but my assumption is that Monsieur Felix was going on the likelihood that the projectile was either solid shot or fuzed in such a way as to be explosive only on firing from the gun, and also if it was inert in the cartridge then the shell was probably also inerted. And the owner of the thing might have been able to confirm that, being a re-enactor..

    (When I was very small I once found a projectile at the seaside c 1960 when looking for crabs and took it home to show mummy and daddy in the seaside chalet . Ordnance Disposal had to be called. But it was a solid 2pdr 40mm shot from WW2, as the old man told me years later. . I can now find maps showing that at least two 2-pdr antitank pillboxes overlooked that beach ...).
  • Taz said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    First.

    Yet again.

    Now - off on a Rodent Hunt.

    The recommended methodology for dealing with rodent infestations - https://youtu.be/U0Hx5ka1FiA
    My brother in law used to breed Patterdale Terriers. They were awesome ratting dogs. Grab them, one flick, neck snapped.

    Mind you he also used to go lamping and had to stop that when New Labour implemented the foxhunting ban which may not be ideal legislation but wound up the right people.
    Lamping with dogs is not illegal in England as long as it is only rabbits or rats.
    Ha ha. My brother in law stopped doing it as he thought it was. What a melt :smile:
    Just don't tell him. Let the bunnies enjoy life. They have been suffering enough the last few years between Mixy and RHD.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 49,958

    I was part of a WWI re-enact group and I simply tripped and fell into a trench whereby the shell became lodged.......

    Man, 88, sparks hospital evacuation in France after arriving with a WWI artillery shell stuck in his rectum

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562045/French-man-sparks-hospital-evacuation-arriving-WWI-artillery-shell-stuck-rectum.html

    One does wonder why an 88 year old man would be interested (or indeed capable) in doing that.
    One can only wonder what has gone up there in the preceding decades....
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Driver said:

    I thought I had had COVID for the second time in 4 months, instead it seems I have this f##ker (its been far worse than COVID).

    https://www.timeout.com/uk/news/why-is-everyone-coming-down-with-the-same-horrid-monster-cold-122022

    Scientists have suggested there’s been a massive increase in ‘super colds’ (the kind of colds that mean you haven’t got out of bed in three days), and that they’re linked to a loss of immunity as a result of lockdown.

    Wow, that's a shock. That could never have been predicted.
    When.... when was the last lockdown?

    This is getting to the stage of blaming the last Labour government for current economic ills.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,146

    I was part of a WWI re-enact group and I simply tripped and fell into a trench whereby the shell became lodged.......

    Man, 88, sparks hospital evacuation in France after arriving with a WWI artillery shell stuck in his rectum

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562045/French-man-sparks-hospital-evacuation-arriving-WWI-artillery-shell-stuck-rectum.html

    One does wonder why an 88 year old man would be interested (or indeed capable) in doing that.
    One can only wonder what has gone up there in the preceding decades....
    That's what breech rings are for, to be loaded repeatedly.

    The term is perhaps best known to the general intelligent PBer in this painting, rather unfortunately title din the context of this discussion.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Loftus_Screwing_a_Breech-ring
  • Staff at the Guardian have been shut out of the newspaper’s offices and forced to work from home after the company was hit by a suspected cyber attack.

    Employees were told there was a serious incident affecting network connectivity at the media group’s King’s Cross headquarters this morning.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/12/21/guardian-staff-shut-office-newspaper-suffers-glitch/
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 2,800
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/dec/21/fears-voter-id-card-delay-could-disfranchise-many-in-england

    "A government website allowing people to sign up for free voter ID documents will not be ready in time for a publicity campaign about the electoral changes, the Guardian has learned, increasing fears that large numbers of people could be disfranchised.

    Ministers are intent on going ahead with introducing mandatory photo ID at local elections across England in May, despite a timetable so compressed that the Electoral Commission has warned the elections cannot be conducted properly."

    Well, that all sounds fine...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited December 2022
    All three gold medals won on the track by Russian athletes at London 2012 have now been rescinded on doping grounds. Ivan Ukhov's high jump title and Tatyana Lysenko's hammer victory in the field have also been wiped from the record books.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/64050489
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 25,046

    All three gold medals won on the track by Russian athletes at London 2012 have now been rescinded on doping grounds. Ivan Ukhov's high jump title and Tatyana Lysenko's hammer victory in the field have also been wiped from the record books.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/64050489

    I'd imagine that they were doped up to the gills, but it does seem based on world events. I doubt China as an example were any better.
  • I have never been interested in inserting anything up my bottom.

    You do know where the male g spot is?

    You're missing out.

    So I am told.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,522

    All three gold medals won on the track by Russian athletes at London 2012 have now been rescinded on doping grounds. Ivan Ukhov's high jump title and Tatyana Lysenko's hammer victory in the field have also been wiped from the record books.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/64050489

    I'd imagine that they were doped up to the gills, but it does seem based on world events. I doubt China as an example were any better.
    Perhaps, but has China been found to have a state-sponsored doping programme?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,146

    I have never been interested in inserting anything up my bottom.

    You do know where the male g spot is?

    You're missing out.

    So I am told.
    Oh, is that what getting loaded means? The things one learns on PB.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited December 2022
    Driver said:

    All three gold medals won on the track by Russian athletes at London 2012 have now been rescinded on doping grounds. Ivan Ukhov's high jump title and Tatyana Lysenko's hammer victory in the field have also been wiped from the record books.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/64050489

    I'd imagine that they were doped up to the gills, but it does seem based on world events. I doubt China as an example were any better.
    Perhaps, but has China been found to have a state-sponsored doping programme?
    Women's swimming they did around 99/00.
  • I was part of a WWI re-enact group and I simply tripped and fell into a trench whereby the shell became lodged.......

    Man, 88, sparks hospital evacuation in France after arriving with a WWI artillery shell stuck in his rectum

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562045/French-man-sparks-hospital-evacuation-arriving-WWI-artillery-shell-stuck-rectum.html

    To be fair this 88 year got closer to frontline action than most French people in WWII.
  • Pulpstar said:

    You have to wonder if there is a hint of trying to 'break the Tories' about all these strikes. Not the main reason obviously, but lurking, round the edges..

    I saw some Socialist Worker placards next to the GMB flags when I went past Middlewood ambulance station earlier.
  • Carnyx said:

    I have never been interested in inserting anything up my bottom.

    You do know where the male g spot is?

    You're missing out.

    So I am told.
    Oh, is that what getting loaded means? The things one learns on PB.
    The vogue is pegging.

    Which reminds me, I have imagined John Major getting pegged senseless.

    Thanks Edwina.


  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,165

    Pulpstar said:

    You have to wonder if there is a hint of trying to 'break the Tories' about all these strikes. Not the main reason obviously, but lurking, round the edges..

    I saw some Socialist Worker placards next to the GMB flags when I went past Middlewood ambulance station earlier.
    On the news at lunchtime, they had "save our NHS" placards, which seem a bit out of place.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 41,674
    eek said:

    malcolmg said:

    Taz said:

    It is not just England. The Welsh and Scottish govts are having similar issues with the health service. Scottish nurses have just rejected a 7.5% increase.

    The ham fisted way the Westminster govt have handled the dispute in England is giving the devolved administration a free run.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64052327?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

    Im am very suprised they have rejected 7.5%, that seemed a good offer
    Madness , they will lose any sympathy turning down offers like that.
    Bad reporting - it was an average of 7.5% - with the lowest paid getting 11.3% and high paid workers getting a fixed amount.

    Given that the vote to reject the offer was 82% I suspect there is a lot of long term ill will being vented here.
    Sounds like it but hard to see them getting much better without big service cuts elsewhere. SNP are in poverty budget wise as it is due to crass mismanagement. Only thing they care about is transgender, you could not make it up as the place falls about us.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 40,950

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    First.

    Yet again.

    Now - off on a Rodent Hunt.

    The recommended methodology for dealing with rodent infestations - https://youtu.be/U0Hx5ka1FiA
    My brother in law used to breed Patterdale Terriers. They were awesome ratting dogs. Grab them, one flick, neck snapped.

    Mind you he also used to go lamping and had to stop that when New Labour implemented the foxhunting ban which may not be ideal legislation but wound up the right people.
    Lamping with dogs is not illegal in England as long as it is only rabbits or rats.
    Not so long ago the BBC had a documentary about working Sealyhams which delighted in the number of rats they killed on any one outing, showing the rats being scrunched up and then laid out.

    Not the same kind of coverage when people kill foxes, whether on horseback or not.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 61,574

    Apparently "balls to the wall" is problematic phrase according to the Stanford nonsense...

    https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/status/1605027934095347712

    Except the balls being referred to have nothing to do with your testicles, it comes from the ball shaped grips on an aircraft's joystick and throttle, where balls to the wall was to push the plane to maximum speed analogous to pedal to the metal for cars...

    You would have thought that a supposed seat of learning, even if determined to be as politically correct as possible, would at least do the research.

    And why is "common person" acceptable, and "normal person" not ?

    I have some sympathy with reasonable efforts not to be offensive, but this is just stupid (Latin root, stupefacio - of which they appear also to be unaware).
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 61,574
    kinabalu said:

    checklist said:

    Everybody has an exactly equal entitlement to fair pay. I doubt the actual merits of any of the claims enter into this result at all, it is a mawkishness index.

    I do feel sorry for the surely blameless driving examiners. It does seem the Great British Public welcomes threats to its life but has no time for petty inconvenience.

    This is a good point. I've always had a soft spot for parking wardens. They do a tough and necessary job for not much money and get no thanks for it. Indeed they get abused and patronized on a regular basis. I've seen it again and again. Entitled people mewling "oh come on, not a ticket please, I'm going now, I'm going ..." and if they don't get their way giving it some verbals, often of the deeply offensive kind. The wardens take all this and never punch back. They stay professional despite their pay & conditions not being commensurate with any sort of professional status. Eg can they work from home? Not really. Anyway, point is, these people are heroes, out on the streets in all weathers doing what they do, delivering a genuine public service, but hardly anybody sees it this way. Ask the shallow ignorant groupthinking "public" about the contribution of traffic wardens and all you'll hear is a stream of negativity. It's pathetic.
    I am always ultra polite to traffic wardens.
    'Heroes' is over-egging it, though.
  • PhilPhil Posts: 1,919

    Pulpstar said:

    You have to wonder if there is a hint of trying to 'break the Tories' about all these strikes. Not the main reason obviously, but lurking, round the edges..

    I saw some Socialist Worker placards next to the GMB flags when I went past Middlewood ambulance station earlier.
    The SW try to insert themselves into any mass uprising going - Entryism is all they know.
  • Bloody Spurs, first they cost England winning the 2022 world cup now they may end up buggering up the British Isles holding Euro 2028.

    The leaders of the UK and Ireland’s bid to host Euro 2028 have been warned that Uefa is growing frustrated over delays in agreeing guarantees around policing, airports, tax exemptions and the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium.

    The UK and Ireland have submitted a joint bid to host the tournament and are up against Turkey in the Uefa vote, which is due to take place in September.

    It is understood that Turkey has signed off all of its guarantees already, while Uefa had far fewer issues with the Euro 2024 hosts, Germany, than the UK and Irish bid. The message has been passed to bid leaders that they need to sort out the guarantees as a matter of urgency.

    The issue with Spurs’ stadium is in relation to the naming rights — Uefa’s rules insist on a “clean”, unbranded venue and insiders at the European governing body say an agreement has still to be reached with the club.

    Spurs, who have been in talks with Google and other companies about the naming rights, insist that they have agreed with Uefa to find “an acceptable solution”. Although Uefa rates the Tottenham ground very highly as a potential venue for the Euros, insiders say it will not accept any compromise that would affect its commitment to “clean” stadiums.

    There are no similar issues with the other branded stadiums on the list, the Etihad in Manchester and Dublin’s Aviva Stadium, which have both provided the guarantees that they will be known as the City of Manchester Stadium and the Dublin Stadium.


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uefa-warns-uk-and-ireland-over-euro-2028-bid-wklbk8n9c
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 61,574

    I have never been interested in inserting anything up my bottom.

    You do know where the male g spot is?

    You're missing out.

    So I am told.
    How can he be missing when he hasn't even aimed ?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 43,620
    Nigelb said:

    kinabalu said:

    checklist said:

    Everybody has an exactly equal entitlement to fair pay. I doubt the actual merits of any of the claims enter into this result at all, it is a mawkishness index.

    I do feel sorry for the surely blameless driving examiners. It does seem the Great British Public welcomes threats to its life but has no time for petty inconvenience.

    This is a good point. I've always had a soft spot for parking wardens. They do a tough and necessary job for not much money and get no thanks for it. Indeed they get abused and patronized on a regular basis. I've seen it again and again. Entitled people mewling "oh come on, not a ticket please, I'm going now, I'm going ..." and if they don't get their way giving it some verbals, often of the deeply offensive kind. The wardens take all this and never punch back. They stay professional despite their pay & conditions not being commensurate with any sort of professional status. Eg can they work from home? Not really. Anyway, point is, these people are heroes, out on the streets in all weathers doing what they do, delivering a genuine public service, but hardly anybody sees it this way. Ask the shallow ignorant groupthinking "public" about the contribution of traffic wardens and all you'll hear is a stream of negativity. It's pathetic.
    I am always ultra polite to traffic wardens.
    'Heroes' is over-egging it, though.
    Very good idea. When WWIII happens and they hand out the SLRs - what price a bit of payback for the guy in the BMW who got in their face last week?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 61,574

    Carnyx said:

    I have never been interested in inserting anything up my bottom.

    You do know where the male g spot is?

    You're missing out.

    So I am told.
    Oh, is that what getting loaded means? The things one learns on PB.
    The vogue is pegging...
    On that note:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2-SG0S5orA
  • MattWMattW Posts: 18,087
    eek said:

    malcolmg said:

    Taz said:

    It is not just England. The Welsh and Scottish govts are having similar issues with the health service. Scottish nurses have just rejected a 7.5% increase.

    The ham fisted way the Westminster govt have handled the dispute in England is giving the devolved administration a free run.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64052327?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

    Im am very suprised they have rejected 7.5%, that seemed a good offer
    Madness , they will lose any sympathy turning down offers like that.
    Bad reporting - it was an average of 7.5% - with the lowest paid getting 11.3% and high paid workers getting a fixed amount.

    Given that the vote to reject the offer was 82% I suspect there is a lot of long term ill will being vented here.
    I'm not sure how Scottish Gov was planning to fund it - some kind of use of devolved tax powers I presume. In my head I can already hear my self-building friends with larger houses in Scotland reacting.

    We'll get some sort of split study about reactions to richer people "paying a little more" to fund higher pay for health workers. Depending what the other Govts end up with in their deals.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 43,620
    Nigelb said:

    Apparently "balls to the wall" is problematic phrase according to the Stanford nonsense...

    https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/status/1605027934095347712

    Except the balls being referred to have nothing to do with your testicles, it comes from the ball shaped grips on an aircraft's joystick and throttle, where balls to the wall was to push the plane to maximum speed analogous to pedal to the metal for cars...

    You would have thought that a supposed seat of learning, even if determined to be as politically correct as possible, would at least do the research.

    And why is "common person" acceptable, and "normal person" not ?

    I have some sympathy with reasonable efforts not to be offensive, but this is just stupid (Latin root, stupefacio - of which they appear also to be unaware).
    Apparently it’s not the meaning of the wire it phase. It’s the misinterpretation that is possible. So calling someone a blackguard is not acceptable because someone with no understanding of the word might think…
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 43,620
    Nigelb said:

    I have never been interested in inserting anything up my bottom.

    You do know where the male g spot is?

    You're missing out.

    So I am told.
    How can he be missing when he hasn't even aimed ?
    Obdurate nonsense..

  • On Topic - "Wriggling out of responsibility" is a hallmark of Boris Johnson's Tory Party.

    Ditto for Donald Trumps's Republican Party. For same basic reason: grifters gotta grift.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,522

    Nigelb said:

    Apparently "balls to the wall" is problematic phrase according to the Stanford nonsense...

    https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/status/1605027934095347712

    Except the balls being referred to have nothing to do with your testicles, it comes from the ball shaped grips on an aircraft's joystick and throttle, where balls to the wall was to push the plane to maximum speed analogous to pedal to the metal for cars...

    You would have thought that a supposed seat of learning, even if determined to be as politically correct as possible, would at least do the research.

    And why is "common person" acceptable, and "normal person" not ?

    I have some sympathy with reasonable efforts not to be offensive, but this is just stupid (Latin root, stupefacio - of which they appear also to be unaware).
    Apparently it’s not the meaning of the wire it phase. It’s the misinterpretation that is possible. So calling someone a blackguard is not acceptable because someone with no understanding of the word might think…
    Like "niggardly"?
  • Battle of the Capitol Hill Bottom-Feeders!

    The Hill - Greene and Boebert trade public barbs over McCarthy, ‘space lasers’

    Tension between conservative firebrand Reps. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) and Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) has spilled into public view, with the two trading barbs over House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s (R-Calif.) Speakership ambitions, controversial and fringe statements Greene has made, and Boebert’s narrow reelection. . . .

    “You know, I’ve been aligned with Marjorie and accused of believing a lot of the things that she believes in,” Boebert told conservative commentator Charlie Kirk at a Turning Point USA conference when asked about Greene’s support for McCarthy. “I don’t believe in this, just like I don’t believe in Russian space lasers — Jewish space lasers and all of this.”

    Boebert’s comment was a reference to a 2018 Facebook post from Greene in which she floated that a “laser beam or light beam” from “space solar generators” could be to blame for wildfires in California, also mentioning the “Rothschild Inc.” Greene later said she did not know the Rothschilds have long been at the center of antisemitic conspiracy theories.

    Greene fired back at Boebert on Twitter on Monday evening, noting Boebert’s slimmer-than-expected reelection win and accusing her of being childish.

    “I’ve supported and donated to Lauren Boebert. President Trump has supported and donated to Lauren Boebert. Kevin McCarthy has supported and donated to Lauren Boebert. She just barely came through by 500 votes,” Greene said. “She gladly takes our $$$ but when she’s been asked: Lauren refuses to endorse President Trump, she refuses to support Kevin McCarthy, and she childishly threw me under the bus for a cheap sound bite.”

    Boebert responded to Greene in comments to the Daily Caller on Monday, saying she supports Trump and that he is the leader of the Republican Party. . . .

    But they have taken very different stances on whether McCarthy should be Speaker.

    Boebert has withheld support for McCarthy, saying that her “red line” is restoring any member’s ability to make a “motion to vacate the chair” to force a vote on ousting the Speaker.

    Greene, on the other hand, has emerged as one of McCarthy’s most vocal supporters, warning that a more moderate alternative could win the Speakership if House Republicans do not unify around him.

    McCarthy has pledged to put Greene back on committees after she was stripped of her assignments over social media interactions, but Greene has said McCarthy has not made any promises regarding which committees she might sit on. . . .

    “I’ve been asked to explain MTG’s belief in Jewish space lasers, why she showed up to a white supremacist’s conference, and now why she’s blindly following Kevin McCarthy and I’m not going to go there,” Boebert said. . . .

    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3782233-greene-and-boebert-trade-public-barbs-over-mccarthy-space-lasers/
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,281

    Taz said:

    It is not just England. The Welsh and Scottish govts are having similar issues with the health service. Scottish nurses have just rejected a 7.5% increase.

    The ham fisted way the Westminster govt have handled the dispute in England is giving the devolved administration a free run.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64052327?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

    Im am very suprised they have rejected 7.5%, that seemed a good offer
    That's, what, a 2.6% real terms pay-cut?

    Can't think why they haven't voted for it.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 47,787

    Nigelb said:

    Apparently "balls to the wall" is problematic phrase according to the Stanford nonsense...

    https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/status/1605027934095347712

    Except the balls being referred to have nothing to do with your testicles, it comes from the ball shaped grips on an aircraft's joystick and throttle, where balls to the wall was to push the plane to maximum speed analogous to pedal to the metal for cars...

    You would have thought that a supposed seat of learning, even if determined to be as politically correct as possible, would at least do the research.

    And why is "common person" acceptable, and "normal person" not ?

    I have some sympathy with reasonable efforts not to be offensive, but this is just stupid (Latin root, stupefacio - of which they appear also to be unaware).
    Apparently it’s not the meaning of the wire it phase. It’s the misinterpretation that is possible. So calling someone a blackguard is not acceptable because someone with no understanding of the word might think…
    In German, fare dodging is called travelling black, which has only recently begun to be seen as problematic.
  • Phil said:

    Pulpstar said:

    You have to wonder if there is a hint of trying to 'break the Tories' about all these strikes. Not the main reason obviously, but lurking, round the edges..

    I saw some Socialist Worker placards next to the GMB flags when I went past Middlewood ambulance station earlier.
    The SW try to insert themselves into any mass uprising going - Entryism is all they know.
    At least since Leon (not THAT one!) waved bye-bye to his last armored train.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 18,087
    Phil said:

    Pulpstar said:

    You have to wonder if there is a hint of trying to 'break the Tories' about all these strikes. Not the main reason obviously, but lurking, round the edges..

    I saw some Socialist Worker placards next to the GMB flags when I went past Middlewood ambulance station earlier.
    The SW try to insert themselves into any mass uprising going - Entryism is all they know.
    Current GMB not popular with the Swappies.
    https://socialistworker.co.uk/news/labour-right-cheers-gmb-union-result/
  • MattWMattW Posts: 18,087
    Driver said:

    Nigelb said:

    Apparently "balls to the wall" is problematic phrase according to the Stanford nonsense...

    https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/status/1605027934095347712

    Except the balls being referred to have nothing to do with your testicles, it comes from the ball shaped grips on an aircraft's joystick and throttle, where balls to the wall was to push the plane to maximum speed analogous to pedal to the metal for cars...

    You would have thought that a supposed seat of learning, even if determined to be as politically correct as possible, would at least do the research.

    And why is "common person" acceptable, and "normal person" not ?

    I have some sympathy with reasonable efforts not to be offensive, but this is just stupid (Latin root, stupefacio - of which they appear also to be unaware).
    Apparently it’s not the meaning of the wire it phase. It’s the misinterpretation that is possible. So calling someone a blackguard is not acceptable because someone with no understanding of the word might think…
    Like "niggardly"?
    It's necessary to protect ignorant people from false outrage.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,281

    Staff at the Guardian have been shut out of the newspaper’s offices and forced to work from home after the company was hit by a suspected cyber attack.

    Employees were told there was a serious incident affecting network connectivity at the media group’s King’s Cross headquarters this morning.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/12/21/guardian-staff-shut-office-newspaper-suffers-glitch/

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/dec/21/guardian-hit-by-serious-it-incident-believed-to-be-ransomware-attack

    'believed to be'? If they don't know, who does?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 61,574
    edited December 2022
    Came across this thread from the summer.
    It seems as though hydrogen from renewables technology might have made quite a lot of progress.

    https://twitter.com/gnievchenko/status/1545409816130207744
    Hydrogen efficiency will beat expectations🥊

    After spending the last six months looking at cutting edge hydrogen tech I believe that the prevailing view that hydrogen is inefficient needs an update.

    There’s much innovation to be excited about on the horizon.
  • Nigelb said:

    Apparently "balls to the wall" is problematic phrase according to the Stanford nonsense...

    https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/status/1605027934095347712

    Except the balls being referred to have nothing to do with your testicles, it comes from the ball shaped grips on an aircraft's joystick and throttle, where balls to the wall was to push the plane to maximum speed analogous to pedal to the metal for cars...

    You would have thought that a supposed seat of learning, even if determined to be as politically correct as possible, would at least do the research.

    And why is "common person" acceptable, and "normal person" not ?

    I have some sympathy with reasonable efforts not to be offensive, but this is just stupid (Latin root, stupefacio - of which they appear also to be unaware).
    Apparently it’s not the meaning of the wire it phase. It’s the misinterpretation that is possible. So calling someone a blackguard is not acceptable because someone with no understanding of the word might think…
    Black Friday.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 61,574
    edited December 2022

    Apparently "balls to the wall" is problematic phrase according to the Stanford nonsense...

    https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/status/1605027934095347712

    Except the balls being referred to have nothing to do with your testicles, it comes from the ball shaped grips on an aircraft's joystick and throttle, where balls to the wall was to push the plane to maximum speed analogous to pedal to the metal for cars...

    Though to be fair to them, it's fighter jockspeak, so the double entendre is almost certainly intentional.

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