Categories
Some of the front pages after Hunt’s budget – politicalbetting.com
Some of the front pages after Hunt’s budget – politicalbetting.com
0
This discussion has been closed.
Some of the front pages after Hunt’s budget – politicalbetting.com
Comments
But the next election is already lost. Best enjoy those ministerial cars whilst they can.
There was a junior minister with that title, who was inexplicably given a seat in Cabinet despite that lack of department or ministry, as Boris did not trust him with an actual department (Truss did, though).
The office appears to be vacant.
https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/minister-of-state-minister-for-brexit-opportunities-and-government-efficiency
https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1590789154568540160?s=20&t=RAfcMuGKjUB6NmXYHmgCfg
Which wouldn't be that absurd, it is how the other two can still happen.
Take out so far how “trap for Labour” and “highest tax burden since Second World War” are the two stand outs on the heat map.
The Labour equivalent of ERGers hating Theresa May.
At least Alexei Sayle is quite funny, to be fair. His fellow travellers on the far left and right are generally humourless.
There's a lot of mess from the frat party to tidy up.
And if you think cuts could have been made today instead of tax rises, if you think HS2 could have been scrapped today instead of tax rises, then you would think this as Tory wet political decisions and not wholly necessary, wouldn’t you?
The largest tax cut in history followed by the largest tax rise ever.
My arse.
The Mirror predictably tries nothing other than smear all the blame over the Tories, when we know if Reeves gave same budget their blame would only be international situation and Putin.
@gabyhinsliff
·
4h
i guess we're about to find out how low the Tory vote can go (used to be told the absolute floor was 20%, but wouldn't bet on it)
===
Not sure I agree with this. I suspect many will say not a bad budget given the shit we are in.
I actually think the current iteration is as sensible a form of Government as we could have right now. We spent an extraordinary amount of money on getting the bulk of our private sector through Covid. Now we have to be grown up about how that gets paid for. This was a grown up budget for bleak times.
Ashfield District Council leader and five other councillors arrested
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-63664195
A bit like Liam Byrnes 'there is no money left' note for Osborne in 2010 there will be no golden economic legacy from this Tory government as Major and Clarke left for Blair and Brown in 1997
The Tories have lost the next election and maybe the one after that. Pff
....Six weeks ago everything seemed so normal. The Tories had got rid of Johnson because he was caught bending the rules one too many times....
....The replacements seemed ordinary bordering on the dull but at least an improvement in most peoples eyes.
......Then the Queen died and they made their choice and Truss took over and out of the blue we were facing the worst economic crisis since records began.
It's as though someone opened the books and found the most heinous skulduggery had taken place.
.......We'd been robbed and they'd got away with the lot.....
I saw him live in Brum about this time. Best line I remember from that show was "Anybody who uses the term "workshop" who isn't involved in light engineering is a c***."
Saw Sayle in Hereford once and he is a great comic though, even if miles from my politics
When he was finally ousted (and not for lying) the new PM had no such extraordinary privilege, and the whole thing collapsed.
The leader came a creditable second to Lee Anderson in the 2019 GE.
Invariably they voted for Brexit, too.
It's awkward for the Tories that there aren't any EU elections any more in Britain where such suffering "strivers" can let off steam by voting UKIP.
Then again the Heil always supports the Tories in general elections and there's no reason to think that's likely to change. (Compare with the Sun, which always supports the winner.)
Hunt seems as batsh*t as Truss but a bit cleverer. Referencing Nigel Lawson is loony. It wasn't just the Big Bang and Singapore-Dubai on the Thames. There was also supposed to be "people's capitalism" across the country (using that exact phrase) with the shareowning proportion of the population rising to a Hong Kong-style level; and the Sunday Times which had previously sold the Laffer sh*t to justify the rich taking their money abroad was also promoting "profit sharing", where workers would get paid a big slice of their incomes in "profits" and they'd understand that when profitability fell they'd have to take a hit and they'd suck it all up - that was the idea. Didn't work. (Admittedly it wasn't tried, but employers as well as the trade unions thought it was posh boy wonk codswallop pushed by eggheads who didn't know much about the real world.) I won't be surprised if Hunt screws fiscal policy as much as Truss did, only on a different time scale. (If looks are anything to go by, he also looks as crazy as she is, if not crazier.)
I suspect it is low twenties.
So if it’s the right budget, not a ideological Tory wet budget as many in Tory circle thinking tonight, then yes, where did this budget come from? Where did these hideous conditions on tax, borrowing, struggling households & businesses, so little growth for us other countries over covid slump already, come from?
Nothing from Boris or Sunak as PM and chancellor setting the ground for this was there? Nothing from Johnson’s long good bye government that the country was in this mess, nor any hint on the endless Tory campaign trail - Sunak said Truss promises would go too far but Sunak was still promising tax cuts and giveaways himself, not explaining need for this Autumn statement. Still no hint of all this budget gloom when Kwarteng first stood to deliver his budget, nor much reaction from the media it should be tax hikes and budget cuts instead, in the papers first summing up, in fact Kwarteng’s was hailed as exciting budget by Tory Press, Tory Party and by many on this blog.
So where did the need for this budget come from?
The truth is the need to tackle borrowing and raise tax to help creaking services through credit crunch was there all year. This crunch was always coming. The politicians either didn’t see it or were never honest about what would eventually be needed.
But also how much of the media were switched on to the true state of UK and spoke up about what was needed? And the opposition parties too, how switched on were they?
But the Tories will win the next election anyway, so the interest is in whether one should lay Keir Starmer now or wait until the odds on his taking over as PM after the next GE are even shorter.
It's not self delusion to note the change, anymore than it would be delusion to note that the Starmer opposition is very different in tone and approach to to the Corbyn opposition. What? It's year 12 of the same opposition, right?
Besides, which, your explanation still doesn't justify that 'forelock tugging' nonsense. Even if your premise is accepted it is a form of self-delusion, it isn't a delusion that necessitates supporting the government, so what deference is shown by it?
Since when is self delusion a sign of deference?
There are pensioners who are struggling. Help them. Support them. Don't just hose around the money to every pensioner. As a starting point if a pensioner is paying high-rate tax then they don't need the freebies!
Little Rishi is the only genuine leaver who has made the top table.
Not really of course, but being a remainer traitor and all I bet a lot of people think he did.
German gas usage down 33% yoy. Households -35%, industry -31%
It is a 1990s Cook/Brown level of opposition response.
No, these are the same chaps that raped your pool boy and stole your wife’s lingerie. That they are a break from Truss is of course true but that in itself ain’t all that and a bag of potato chips.
https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-industry-europe-energy-prices-basf/amp/
It’s governments with Tories in it, I’ll concede you that, but it’s hardly a continuation of the same thing. That’s the nub of it: will the real Tory Party please let us know who you are and what you believe in, and lock anything contrary to that away in the attack. Please.
"Remainer" functions as a term of such contempt. Cf. "regicide"? Some would like to brand us and deprive us of our voting rights. Never mind that the country can't remain in what it's already left, although it can REJOIN and in fact those of us who want to rejoin are a majority.
We are now in 2010 but in reverse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandy_Zadrozny?wprov=sfla1
But how many Conservative MPs do Sunak and Hunt bequeath their successors
"Charlize Theron condemned for saying Afrikaans is dying language"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-63642042
We all know Labour will spend far more - caving in to public sector wage demands, more generous benefits - eg abolish two child limit, abolish bedroom tax, abolish sanctions, probably a bung to WASPI women etc.
Everyone including Labour knows they can't borrow more - so taxes under Labour will be way, way higher than even those announced today.
@christopherhope
·
1h
Tomorrow's front pages look like the worst I have ever seen for the Conservative party.
That’s also breaking, now that remorse is nearly 2:1.
Do you think Labour get all the blame from day 1? Probably a thousand days in before some voters start to say you can’t blame it all on Tories now, we want some delivery.
The sun of post recession rebound might be out, green shoots and all that mid way through their stint, which they get all the credit for, in run down to their re-election attempt
You haven’t thought this through have you?