The betting money’s still going on a 2022 BJ exit – politicalbetting.com
Although Johnson “won” Monday’s vote punters are still putting money on him not surviving in 2022 and this remains the betting favourite for his exit year..
Anyone saying "wait until 23 June" would have on 24 June been saying "wait until the Privileges Committee report". There will always be a reason to wait, but many thought there was enough reason to act now and I agree with them - but the vote was lost and would probably have been lost on any other date too, MPs have made their choice democratically.
Exclusive: Concerns have been raised at the top of government over the legality of contentious Northern Ireland Protocol legislation, which ministers are set to bring forward in the next few days.
Correspondence seen by PoliticsHome has cast doubt over the government's argument that its plan to override parts of the post-Brexit treaty without an agreement with the European Union would not breach international law.
I knew I'd predicted at the very high end of the possible range for No Confidence votes, I felt with a secret ballot and a forward view of Boris's likely course from here, a decent number of the payroll might turn also feeling they could do as well under someone else.
The VONC, it turned out, was more ordinary than that - the payroll broadly stayed in line (no more than a couple of dozen vonced him?), but the massive size of the payroll, 178, shocked me (I think there are maximum numbers of some roles).
So, things get iffier, increase the (informal) payroll to 250, and ride future voncs. Job done?
And I still twitch that Boris might go into GE 24 with a majority of 120+ by jettisoning Scotland. Time is tight to bounce indy so quickly, and I think not, COVID and tough talk may have put paid to it, but I'm still twitchy. And England would get a separation as half baked as the NIP.
Exclusive: Concerns have been raised at the top of government over the legality of contentious Northern Ireland Protocol legislation, which ministers are set to bring forward in the next few days.
Correspondence seen by PoliticsHome has cast doubt over the government's argument that its plan to override parts of the post-Brexit treaty without an agreement with the European Union would not breach international law.
The legislation should be passed, but the legislation should invoke Article 16. That would be legal and consistent with international law since that is what Article 16 is there for; IANAL but I fail to see how it can be legal without invoking A16 first as that is the safeguard in the Protocol.
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
That's as maybe, but why does it matter?
Because they started it, Miss
No, really, if you go back over the previous debate it began quite civilised until @JosiasJessop started questioning my worth as a father and a male, so I (naturally) gave it back and then it all kicked off from there
And during this unseemly fracas we learned that @JosiasJessop is probably a cuck, and @Nigel_Foremain is likely gay
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
Whether I am or not is immaterial, and of no consequence. What is more interesting is your obsession with proving your masculinity and your obvious horror at my suggestion that it might be a psychological consequence of your repressed homoerotic fantasies. Just as a further point of interest, how tall are you? About 5'7 perhaps? (Don't worry I wouldn't possibly dream of asking you about whether you are smaller than average in the trouser department)
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
That's as maybe, but why does it matter?
Because they started it, Miss
No, really, if you go back over the previous debate it began quite civilised until @JosiasJessop started questioning my worth as a father and a male, so I (naturally) gave it back and then it all kicked off from there
And during this unseemly fracas we learned that @JosiasJessop is probably a cuck, and @Nigel_Foremain is likely gay
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
That's as maybe, but why does it matter?
Because they started it, Miss
No, really, if you go back over the previous debate it began quite civilised until @JosiasJessop started questioning my worth as a father and a male, so I (naturally) gave it back and then it all kicked off from there
And during this unseemly fracas we learned that @JosiasJessop is probably a cuck, and @Nigel_Foremain is likely gay
PB’s finest hour? No. But talk to them, not me
I thought your posts even ruder and less funny than normal, so I thought I would add a little psychological spice. I am also not reactionary enough to be offended by you assuming that I am gay. I think it is quite a compliment. xxx
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
Whether I am or not is immaterial, and of no consequence. What is more interesting is your obsession with proving your masculinity and your obvious horror at my suggestion that it might be a psychological consequence of your repressed homoerotic fantasies. Just as a further point of interest, how tall are you? About 5'7 perhaps? (Don't worry I wouldn't possibly dream of asking you about whether you are smaller than average in the trouser department)
Oi! Nothing wrong with being 5 foot 7. And my trousers are perfectly comfortable.
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
That's as maybe, but why does it matter?
Because they started it, Miss
No, really, if you go back over the previous debate it began quite civilised until @JosiasJessop started questioning my worth as a father and a male, so I (naturally) gave it back and then it all kicked off from there
And during this unseemly fracas we learned that @JosiasJessop is probably a cuck, and @Nigel_Foremain is likely gay
PB’s finest hour? No. But talk to them, not me
I fear your projections of my being a 'cuck' might be based on your being, in fact, an utter cock. And a small one at that.
Before I went on my hols, petrol was 162.9p per litre at my local Tesco's. Last Sunday, it was 171.9p and tonight it's 180.9p per litre. At this rate, the £2 litre is probably 10 days away.
And yet...
The drivers were still queueing up to fill up - it's as though the dependency is such we will pay anything to keep the show (or the car) on the road. The demand still seems very strong but are we like Wile E Coyote and have gone over the cliff and yet to look down?
I can't believe this won't have an impact - it is having an impact - 2 litres of milk now £1.29 at the aforementioned Tesco's. I suppose inevitably those who have less in terms of disposable income will fell it hardest, quickest and longest.
A collapse in demand should send the oil price back down - it did in 2008 and 2020 (very different scenarios of course).
Exclusive: Concerns have been raised at the top of government over the legality of contentious Northern Ireland Protocol legislation, which ministers are set to bring forward in the next few days.
Correspondence seen by PoliticsHome has cast doubt over the government's argument that its plan to override parts of the post-Brexit treaty without an agreement with the European Union would not breach international law.
Genuine question: what is this “international law”?
There are certain specific treaty courts, etc (like WTO) and the Netherlands war crime one (ICJ?) but what is the law saying a government can’t do something like this and who made it binding on us?
(Nb for avoidance of doubt this is not saying they should do this)
No they didn't, the companies named voluntarily chose to sign up to the micro USB standard, they weren't legislated to do so. Notably Apple didn't which is why they still have the lightning connection.
If it were standardised we would have been stuck with micro-USB unless the legislation changed and we wouldn't have had Apple or others able to innovate.
Voluntary standardisation is a good thing, when the standard is evolved, but the ability to innovate and diverge from the standard if you have something new to offer should always be there.
Exclusive: Concerns have been raised at the top of government over the legality of contentious Northern Ireland Protocol legislation, which ministers are set to bring forward in the next few days.
Correspondence seen by PoliticsHome has cast doubt over the government's argument that its plan to override parts of the post-Brexit treaty without an agreement with the European Union would not breach international law.
Genuine question: what is this “international law”?
There are certain specific treaty courts, etc (like WTO) and the Netherlands war crime one (ICJ?) but what is the law saying a government can’t do something like this and who made it binding on us?
(Nb for avoidance of doubt this is not saying they should do this)
Generally it is accepted that countries that have democratic and politically advanced administrations do not ignore international law, and certainly do not break the conventions therein. The UK is normally an upholder of International Law
In the utterly pointless game of time served as PM, if Boris can avoid going to the palace in the next 2 and a half hours he is past Brown and if he can make Friday he slithers by Arthur Wellesley. Then its a long long 4 weeks to peace in our time man before a further 4 weeks of agony to surpass Tess herself.
Before I went on my hols, petrol was 162.9p per litre at my local Tesco's. Last Sunday, it was 171.9p and tonight it's 180.9p per litre. At this rate, the £2 litre is probably 10 days away.
And yet...
The drivers were still queueing up to fill up - it's as though the dependency is such we will pay anything to keep the show (or the car) on the road. The demand still seems very strong but are we like Wile E Coyote and have gone over the cliff and yet to look down?
I can't believe this won't have an impact - it is having an impact - 2 litres of milk now £1.29 at the aforementioned Tesco's. I suppose inevitably those who have less in terms of disposable income will fell it hardest, quickest and longest.
A collapse in demand should send the oil price back down - it did in 2008 and 2020 (very different scenarios of course).
West Texas Intermediate back above $120 a barrel.
Were all the drivers thanking Sunak for that "biggest ever cut in fuel duty" of 5p just a few weeks ago? It's almost as if it's got lost in the post and was a waste of time.
Before I went on my hols, petrol was 162.9p per litre at my local Tesco's. Last Sunday, it was 171.9p and tonight it's 180.9p per litre. At this rate, the £2 litre is probably 10 days away.
And yet...
The drivers were still queueing up to fill up - it's as though the dependency is such we will pay anything to keep the show (or the car) on the road. The demand still seems very strong but are we like Wile E Coyote and have gone over the cliff and yet to look down?
I can't believe this won't have an impact - it is having an impact - 2 litres of milk now £1.29 at the aforementioned Tesco's. I suppose inevitably those who have less in terms of disposable income will fell it hardest, quickest and longest.
A collapse in demand should send the oil price back down - it did in 2008 and 2020 (very different scenarios of course).
West Texas Intermediate back above $120 a barrel.
Were all the drivers thanking Sunak for that "biggest ever cut in fuel duty" of 5p just a few weeks ago? It's almost as if it's got lost in the post and was a waste of time.
In the utterly pointless game of time served as PM, if Boris can avoid going to the palace in the next 2 and a half hours he is past Brown and if he can make Friday he slithers by Arthur Wellesley. Then its a long long 4 weeks to peace in our time man before a further 4 weeks of agony to surpass Tess herself.
So basically it's only sudden death that stops him. I'll have a think about how I'd feel about that.
GSMA, ITU, and CTIA were all ahead of the EU on that. So it wasn't the EU alone, the whole industry worldwide was pushing for a common charger.
It has to be said though that such bodies have frequently proposed standardising things that turned out to be utter garbage. There's no panacea for solving this issue of promoting things that are good to become common.
I think generally standards bodies are good, but I'd be very wary of mandating standards if there are no reasonable exceptions to allow valid differences, rather than say differences to promote market control.
In the utterly pointless game of time served as PM, if Boris can avoid going to the palace in the next 2 and a half hours he is past Brown and if he can make Friday he slithers by Arthur Wellesley. Then its a long long 4 weeks to peace in our time man before a further 4 weeks of agony to surpass Tess herself.
So basically it's only sudden death that stops him. I'll have a think about how I'd feel about that.
Hmm.
Not keen on him dying suddenly.
Something lingering with boiling oil in it would be more appropriate.
GSMA, ITU, and CTIA were all ahead of the EU on that. So it wasn't the EU alone, the whole industry worldwide was pushing for a common charger.
It has to be said though that such bodies have frequently proposed standardising things that turned out to be utter garbage. There's no panacea for solving this issue of promoting things that are good to become common.
I think generally standards bodies are good, but I'd be very wary of mandating standards if there are no reasonable exceptions to allow valid differences, rather than say differences to promote market control.
Precisely and the OMTP were also ahead of the EU too. I think Alistair has jumped the shark on that one, the EU did the right thing then because it followed the trend and encouraged what was already happening after the fact but left it to choice which is the reasonable thing to do, rather than going down the route of compulsion.
Now years later after the fact they're going down the route of compulsion, that is the wrong answer, and the wrong time. What happens next time when people come up with a new solution that is better, do they just say innovation is verboten in Europe?
No they didn't, the companies named voluntarily chose to sign up to the micro USB standard, they weren't legislated to do so. Notably Apple didn't which is why they still have the lightning connection.
If it were standardised we would have been stuck with micro-USB unless the legislation changed and we wouldn't have had Apple or others able to innovate.
Voluntary standardisation is a good thing, when the standard is evolved, but the ability to innovate and diverge from the standard if you have something new to offer should always be there.
"Voluntarily", definitely no arm twisting involved at all.
Before I went on my hols, petrol was 162.9p per litre at my local Tesco's. Last Sunday, it was 171.9p and tonight it's 180.9p per litre. At this rate, the £2 litre is probably 10 days away.
And yet...
The drivers were still queueing up to fill up - it's as though the dependency is such we will pay anything to keep the show (or the car) on the road. The demand still seems very strong but are we like Wile E Coyote and have gone over the cliff and yet to look down?
I can't believe this won't have an impact - it is having an impact - 2 litres of milk now £1.29 at the aforementioned Tesco's. I suppose inevitably those who have less in terms of disposable income will fell it hardest, quickest and longest.
A collapse in demand should send the oil price back down - it did in 2008 and 2020 (very different scenarios of course).
Yorkshire Party demonstrating their top notch commitment to being a serious poltical party by.. *checks notes* Criticising me for supporting Yorkshire devolution and for the football team I support. Couldn't make it up.
No they didn't, the companies named voluntarily chose to sign up to the micro USB standard, they weren't legislated to do so. Notably Apple didn't which is why they still have the lightning connection.
If it were standardised we would have been stuck with micro-USB unless the legislation changed and we wouldn't have had Apple or others able to innovate.
Voluntary standardisation is a good thing, when the standard is evolved, but the ability to innovate and diverge from the standard if you have something new to offer should always be there.
"Voluntarily", definitely no arm twisting involved at all.
Yes voluntarily. Most of the major industry players at the time then where involved in groups like the OMTP (Huawai, Motorola, Nokia, Samsung and Sony Ericsson) and other groups that were seeking harmonisation as a goal. They endorsed Micro USB as the standard two years before the EU did.
Encouraging it is a good thing, but compulsion is an entirely different matter.
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
Whether I am or not is immaterial, and of no consequence. What is more interesting is your obsession with proving your masculinity and your obvious horror at my suggestion that it might be a psychological consequence of your repressed homoerotic fantasies. Just as a further point of interest, how tall are you? About 5'7 perhaps? (Don't worry I wouldn't possibly dream of asking you about whether you are smaller than average in the trouser department)
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
Whether I am or not is immaterial, and of no consequence. What is more interesting is your obsession with proving your masculinity and your obvious horror at my suggestion that it might be a psychological consequence of your repressed homoerotic fantasies. Just as a further point of interest, how tall are you? About 5'7 perhaps? (Don't worry I wouldn't possibly dream of asking you about whether you are smaller than average in the trouser department)
If he is 1.702m tall then he's going to be shorter than average in the trouser dept, anyway. Unless he looks very odd.
In the utterly pointless game of time served as PM, if Boris can avoid going to the palace in the next 2 and a half hours he is past Brown and if he can make Friday he slithers by Arthur Wellesley. Then its a long long 4 weeks to peace in our time man before a further 4 weeks of agony to surpass Tess herself.
The only chance Boris ever has of being remembered as middle order.....
Exclusive: Concerns have been raised at the top of government over the legality of contentious Northern Ireland Protocol legislation, which ministers are set to bring forward in the next few days.
Correspondence seen by PoliticsHome has cast doubt over the government's argument that its plan to override parts of the post-Brexit treaty without an agreement with the European Union would not breach international law.
Genuine question: what is this “international law”?
There are certain specific treaty courts, etc (like WTO) and the Netherlands war crime one (ICJ?) but what is the law saying a government can’t do something like this and who made it binding on us?
(Nb for avoidance of doubt this is not saying they should do this)
Generally it is accepted that countries that have democratic and politically advanced administrations do not ignore international law, and certainly do not break the conventions therein. The UK is normally an upholder of International Law
So conventions not law. Basically calling it a “breach of international law” is misleading to the non technical expert because there is no enforcement mechanism or penalty for doing so
Exclusive: Concerns have been raised at the top of government over the legality of contentious Northern Ireland Protocol legislation, which ministers are set to bring forward in the next few days.
Correspondence seen by PoliticsHome has cast doubt over the government's argument that its plan to override parts of the post-Brexit treaty without an agreement with the European Union would not breach international law.
Genuine question: what is this “international law”?
There are certain specific treaty courts, etc (like WTO) and the Netherlands war crime one (ICJ?) but what is the law saying a government can’t do something like this and who made it binding on us?
(Nb for avoidance of doubt this is not saying they should do this)
Generally it is accepted that countries that have democratic and politically advanced administrations do not ignore international law, and certainly do not break the conventions therein. The UK is normally an upholder of International Law
So conventions not law. Basically calling it a “breach of international law” is misleading to the non technical expert because there is no enforcement mechanism or penalty for doing so
Its more what you call guidelines than actual rules.
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
Whether I am or not is immaterial, and of no consequence. What is more interesting is your obsession with proving your masculinity and your obvious horror at my suggestion that it might be a psychological consequence of your repressed homoerotic fantasies. Just as a further point of interest, how tall are you? About 5'7 perhaps? (Don't worry I wouldn't possibly dream of asking you about whether you are smaller than average in the trouser department)
Measured in British inches by the way. 🇬🇧
Which are defined under the metric system, and therefore 2.54 x 10 to the minus 2 times the length of the path travelled by light in a vacuum in 1/299 792 458 of a second.
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
Whether I am or not is immaterial, and of no consequence. What is more interesting is your obsession with proving your masculinity and your obvious horror at my suggestion that it might be a psychological consequence of your repressed homoerotic fantasies. Just as a further point of interest, how tall are you? About 5'7 perhaps? (Don't worry I wouldn't possibly dream of asking you about whether you are smaller than average in the trouser department)
Measured in British inches by the way. 🇬🇧
Which are defined under the metric system, and therefore 2.54 x 10 to the minus 2 times the length of the path travelled by light in a vacuum in 1/299 792 458 of a second.
Others predict the PM will be the master of his own demise. One tells me: “The one person who brings down Boris is in fact Boris. We stumble on from this f***-up to the next.”
Others don’t think a policy blitz is the solution. “We're struggling for one reason - the public has lost faith in Boris Johnson. They've got their heads in the sand if they think we'll be able to get back on track with him at the helm."
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
Given where the conversation got to on the last thread we are almost at the "your mum" stage and it might even further debase to "your dad".
History Today, tech version:
See that woman over there using Firewire? That's your mum, that is ... Well, see that woman with the Betamax recorder? that's your mum, that is. How about that woman handling an eight-inch floppy? That's your mum, that is...
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
Whether I am or not is immaterial, and of no consequence. What is more interesting is your obsession with proving your masculinity and your obvious horror at my suggestion that it might be a psychological consequence of your repressed homoerotic fantasies. Just as a further point of interest, how tall are you? About 5'7 perhaps? (Don't worry I wouldn't possibly dream of asking you about whether you are smaller than average in the trouser department)
Measured in British inches by the way. 🇬🇧
Which are defined under the metric system, and therefore 2.54 x 10 to the minus 2 times the length of the path travelled by light in a vacuum in 1/299 792 458 of a second.
omg you're quick, I was going to correct you.
Yes, I can get a bit wobbly about powers of ten. I still have to sit and think how many mm of rain will fill my 210 litre water barrel off my 5 x 3m shed. But it's MUCH quicker than converting cubic inches to hogsheads mentally ...
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
Whether I am or not is immaterial, and of no consequence. What is more interesting is your obsession with proving your masculinity and your obvious horror at my suggestion that it might be a psychological consequence of your repressed homoerotic fantasies. Just as a further point of interest, how tall are you? About 5'7 perhaps? (Don't worry I wouldn't possibly dream of asking you about whether you are smaller than average in the trouser department)
Measured in British inches by the way. 🇬🇧
Inches precede Britain, and the UK. They are first attested in a Kentish law code.
Kent was then defeated and absorbed into Wessex, and we can't be 100% certain is wasn't the fault of the inch...
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
Whether I am or not is immaterial, and of no consequence. What is more interesting is your obsession with proving your masculinity and your obvious horror at my suggestion that it might be a psychological consequence of your repressed homoerotic fantasies. Just as a further point of interest, how tall are you? About 5'7 perhaps? (Don't worry I wouldn't possibly dream of asking you about whether you are smaller than average in the trouser department)
Measured in British inches by the way. 🇬🇧
Which are defined under the metric system, and therefore 2.54 x 10 to the minus 2 times the length of the path travelled by light in a vacuum in 1/299 792 458 of a second.
omg you're quick, I was going to correct you.
Yes, I can get a bit wobbly about powers of ten. I still have to sit and think how many mm of rain will fill my 210 litre water barrel off my 5 x 3m shed. But it's MUCH quicker than converting cubic inches to hogsheads mentally ...
I agree. I tutor my grandson over zoom in science/maths and he is always mixing up centi and milli and when to use them. Don't ask about kilo and Mega either! I used to like teaching units and measurements in the A level physics course.
By the by, I notice that zoom have limited their time to 40mins now the pandemic is over. A bit of a pain, but the cost of the upgrade is well beyond a mum and dad's pocket now.
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
Whether I am or not is immaterial, and of no consequence. What is more interesting is your obsession with proving your masculinity and your obvious horror at my suggestion that it might be a psychological consequence of your repressed homoerotic fantasies. Just as a further point of interest, how tall are you? About 5'7 perhaps? (Don't worry I wouldn't possibly dream of asking you about whether you are smaller than average in the trouser department)
Measured in British inches by the way. 🇬🇧
Which are defined under the metric system, and therefore 2.54 x 10 to the minus 2 times the length of the path travelled by light in a vacuum in 1/299 792 458 of a second.
omg you're quick, I was going to correct you.
Yes, I can get a bit wobbly about powers of ten. I still have to sit and think how many mm of rain will fill my 210 litre water barrel off my 5 x 3m shed. But it's MUCH quicker than converting cubic inches to hogsheads mentally ...
I agree. I tutor my grandson over zoom in science/maths and he is always mixing up centi and milli and when to use them. Don't ask about kilo and Mega either! I used to like teaching units and measurements in the A level physics course.
By the by, I notice that zoom have limited their time to 40mins now the pandemic is over. A bit of a pain, but the cost of the upgrade is well beyond a mum and dad's pocket now.
I hadn't heard that. How much does it cost, and who pays (this fits in with the WfH conversations.)
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
Whether I am or not is immaterial, and of no consequence. What is more interesting is your obsession with proving your masculinity and your obvious horror at my suggestion that it might be a psychological consequence of your repressed homoerotic fantasies. Just as a further point of interest, how tall are you? About 5'7 perhaps? (Don't worry I wouldn't possibly dream of asking you about whether you are smaller than average in the trouser department)
I knew I'd predicted at the very high end of the possible range for No Confidence votes, I felt with a secret ballot and a forward view of Boris's likely course from here, a decent number of the payroll might turn also feeling they could do as well under someone else.
The VONC, it turned out, was more ordinary than that - the payroll broadly stayed in line (no more than a couple of dozen vonced him?), but the massive size of the payroll, 178, shocked me (I think there are maximum numbers of some roles).
So, things get iffier, increase the (informal) payroll to 250, and ride future voncs. Job done?
And I still twitch that Boris might go into GE 24 with a majority of 120+ by jettisoning Scotland. Time is tight to bounce indy so quickly, and I think not, COVID and tough talk may have put paid to it, but I'm still twitchy. And England would get a separation as half baked as the NIP.
So, the Yes side would comprise: SNP Greens Alba STUC various Yes groups Half the English Conservative Party A third of Scottish Labour
The No side would comprise: Two thirds of Scottish Labour The Scottish Tories The SLDs Half the English Conservative Party Reform UKIP Orange Lodge Ulster Unionists Various far-right groups
Funny if Johnson is still PM in 10 years from now.
And possible.
But only if the public forgive him for parties whilst they could not bury the dead.
10 years would be a stretch even without his recent troubles. Making 10 years total in a democratic system like ours is not easy, let alone 13 years. He's surprised me before, but even if he wins the next GE I cannot see him getting yet another go.
Exclusive: Concerns have been raised at the top of government over the legality of contentious Northern Ireland Protocol legislation, which ministers are set to bring forward in the next few days.
Correspondence seen by PoliticsHome has cast doubt over the government's argument that its plan to override parts of the post-Brexit treaty without an agreement with the European Union would not breach international law.
Genuine question: what is this “international law”?
There are certain specific treaty courts, etc (like WTO) and the Netherlands war crime one (ICJ?) but what is the law saying a government can’t do something like this and who made it binding on us?
(Nb for avoidance of doubt this is not saying they should do this)
Generally it is accepted that countries that have democratic and politically advanced administrations do not ignore international law, and certainly do not break the conventions therein. The UK is normally an upholder of International Law
So conventions not law. Basically calling it a “breach of international law” is misleading to the non technical expert because there is no enforcement mechanism or penalty for doing so
Its more what you call guidelines than actual rules.
I see that people who are not lawyers and certainly not experts in international law are now opining on what international law is or is not.
I would not claim to be an expert in this area. But for what it's worth I spent the first few years of my career working on the International Tin Council case, which went to the House of Lords and which opined at length on international law, justiciability and a whole lot more besides.
The idea that a Conservative government of Britain should simply ignore a treaty it has signed up to or deliberately break its legal obligations freely entered into in order to save the sorry behind of a politician who has shown little regard for domestic law is a mark of how low the Conservative party has sunk and the damage it is prepared to do to Britain to save itself.
Let the last word be these:-
"When a regime has been in power too long, when it has fatally exhausted the patience of the people, and when oblivion finally beckons - I am afraid that across the world you can rely on the leaders of that regime to act solely in the interests of self-preservation, and not in the interests of the electorate."
Well, quite.
And the author?
Oh, one Boris Johnson - in February 2011. Whatever happened to him?
So the big revelation of the evening is that @Nigel_Foremain is gay
Whether I am or not is immaterial, and of no consequence. What is more interesting is your obsession with proving your masculinity and your obvious horror at my suggestion that it might be a psychological consequence of your repressed homoerotic fantasies. Just as a further point of interest, how tall are you? About 5'7 perhaps? (Don't worry I wouldn't possibly dream of asking you about whether you are smaller than average in the trouser department)
There's nothing wrong with being 5'7.
All the great people are 5'7.
Lionel Messi, Tom Cruise, Jeff Bezos, me, Vladimir Putin...
I find it fascinating Johnson seems to be acting like he’s won a landslide confidence vote. Has anyone told him?
Who is speaking truth in the bunker?
Not the most inexperienced Cabinet Secretary in living memory. Nor the various aides who have been parachuted in by Crosby. Nor literally the worst cabinet of no marks and hopeless sycophants since records began.
At least Cummings seemed able to call him a deluded twat to his face.
Funny if Johnson is still PM in 10 years from now. 😊
Quite the opposite.
You may be amused at this horrendous little (5ft 8 in his socks) man running our great nation into the ground, but the rest of us are certainly not laughing.
Johnson is so utterly shameless that he will limp on until they are absolutely forced to bring him down. He will not go voluntarily. That is why I suspect it may not be 2022.
Penny has a piece in the Telegraph. Unity, Brexit, all the Talents. On pre manouvere manouveres
Also a headline piece saying Johnson's allies want Hunt to tie himself to the dead albatross by becoming CoE in Johnson's next reshuffle.
Jeez.
Who the fuck is left advising Boris? Peppa Pig?
There seems be absolutely 0 idea about what to do next. No. 10 has just become an odd extension of Johnson’s ego
I think he gets angry and believes he could do great things if only people left him alone and stopped questioning him, rather than that people question him all the time because he is not doing great things.
He certainly has reached the governing stage of being furious and outright offended at people questioning his governance very quickly indeed.
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Absolute balls of steel needed for my treason last summer though.
Exclusive: Concerns have been raised at the top of government over the legality of contentious Northern Ireland Protocol legislation, which ministers are set to bring forward in the next few days.
Correspondence seen by PoliticsHome has cast doubt over the government's argument that its plan to override parts of the post-Brexit treaty without an agreement with the European Union would not breach international law.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/northern-ireland-protocol-bill-legality
And I never learn.
I knew I'd predicted at the very high end of the possible range for No Confidence votes, I felt with a secret ballot and a forward view of Boris's likely course from here, a decent number of the payroll might turn also feeling they could do as well under someone else.
The VONC, it turned out, was more ordinary than that - the payroll broadly stayed in line (no more than a couple of dozen vonced him?), but the massive size of the payroll, 178, shocked me (I think there are maximum numbers of some roles).
So, things get iffier, increase the (informal) payroll to 250, and ride future voncs. Job done?
And I still twitch that Boris might go into GE 24 with a majority of 120+ by jettisoning Scotland. Time is tight to bounce indy so quickly, and I think not, COVID and tough talk may have put paid to it, but I'm still twitchy. And England would get a separation as half baked as the NIP.
Fun fact SuperMac sacked a third of his cabinet in one go.
Boris Johnson warns ministers to raise their game or face the sack. Colleagues say he’s not minded towards an immediate reshuffle.
“Boris knows people have to perform and some are not. He will assess performance in the cold hard light of day.”
https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1534258100567523328
The Sun with the comedy tonight
Boris is in trouble because Tories are jealous of his charisma - but he must do better: Sun readers react to votes https://t.co/MVfNWkgdN1
No, really, if you go back over the previous debate it began quite civilised until @JosiasJessop started questioning my worth as a father and a male, so I (naturally) gave it back and then it all kicked off from there
And during this unseemly fracas we learned that @JosiasJessop is probably a cuck, and @Nigel_Foremain is likely gay
PB’s finest hour? No. But talk to them, not me
You have worth at a father?
Do your children know?
Someone said that we should be glad that the EU didn't force phone charger standardisation in the past otherwise we would be stuck with micro-USB.
But they did force standardisation on micro-USB!
The European Comission pushing it is why we stopped having a million different propriety connectors, it wasnt the market magicly solving anything
https://www.engadget.com/2010-12-29-european-standardization-bodies-formalize-micro-usb-cellphone-ch.html
Shock while out on my evening constitutional.
Before I went on my hols, petrol was 162.9p per litre at my local Tesco's. Last Sunday, it was 171.9p and tonight it's 180.9p per litre. At this rate, the £2 litre is probably 10 days away.
And yet...
The drivers were still queueing up to fill up - it's as though the dependency is such we will pay anything to keep the show (or the car) on the road. The demand still seems very strong but are we like Wile E Coyote and have gone over the cliff and yet to look down?
I can't believe this won't have an impact - it is having an impact - 2 litres of milk now £1.29 at the aforementioned Tesco's. I suppose inevitably those who have less in terms of disposable income will fell it hardest, quickest and longest.
A collapse in demand should send the oil price back down - it did in 2008 and 2020 (very different scenarios of course).
West Texas Intermediate back above $120 a barrel.
There are certain specific treaty courts, etc (like WTO) and the Netherlands war crime one (ICJ?) but what is the law saying a government can’t do something like this and who made it binding on us?
(Nb for avoidance of doubt this is not saying they should do this)
If it were standardised we would have been stuck with micro-USB unless the legislation changed and we wouldn't have had Apple or others able to innovate.
Voluntary standardisation is a good thing, when the standard is evolved, but the ability to innovate and diverge from the standard if you have something new to offer should always be there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_law#:~:text=International law, also known as,recognized as binding between nations.
Generally it is accepted that countries that have democratic and politically advanced administrations do not ignore international law, and certainly do not break the conventions therein. The UK is normally an upholder of International Law
Still a 67% increase in two years.
It has to be said though that such bodies have frequently proposed standardising things that turned out to be utter garbage. There's no panacea for solving this issue of promoting things that are good to become common.
I think generally standards bodies are good, but I'd be very wary of mandating standards if there are no reasonable exceptions to allow valid differences, rather than say differences to promote market control.
Pretty risky.
Not keen on him dying suddenly.
Something lingering with boiling oil in it would be more appropriate.
Now years later after the fact they're going down the route of compulsion, that is the wrong answer, and the wrong time. What happens next time when people come up with a new solution that is better, do they just say innovation is verboten in Europe?
On pre manouvere manouveres
@AshRouth
Yorkshire Party demonstrating their top notch commitment to being a serious poltical party by.. *checks notes*
Criticising me for supporting Yorkshire devolution and for the football team I support.
Couldn't make it up.
7:21 pm · 7 Jun 2022"
https://twitter.com/AshRouth/status/1534239080095141892
Encouraging it is a good thing, but compulsion is an entirely different matter.
Others predict the PM will be the master of his own demise. One tells me: “The one person who brings down Boris is in fact Boris. We stumble on from this f***-up to the next.”
Others don’t think a policy blitz is the solution. “We're struggling for one reason - the public has lost faith in Boris Johnson.
They've got their heads in the sand if they think we'll be able to get back on track with him at the helm."
See that woman over there using Firewire? That's your mum, that is ...
Well, see that woman with the Betamax recorder? that's your mum, that is.
How about that woman handling an eight-inch floppy? That's your mum, that is...
Jeez.
By the by, I notice that zoom have limited their time to 40mins now the pandemic is over. A bit of a pain, but the cost of the upgrade is well beyond a mum and dad's pocket now.
And given my expectation is that he'll last longer than a year, expect him to be out in the next few days...
But only if the public forgive him for parties whilst they could not bury the dead.
SNP
Greens
Alba
STUC
various Yes groups
Half the English Conservative Party
A third of Scottish Labour
The No side would comprise:
Two thirds of Scottish Labour
The Scottish Tories
The SLDs
Half the English Conservative Party
Reform
UKIP
Orange Lodge
Ulster Unionists
Various far-right groups
Place your bets folks!
I would not claim to be an expert in this area. But for what it's worth I spent the first few years of my career working on the International Tin Council case, which went to the House of Lords and which opined at length on international law, justiciability and a whole lot more besides.
The idea that a Conservative government of Britain should simply ignore a treaty it has signed up to or deliberately break its legal obligations freely entered into in order to save the sorry behind of a politician who has shown little regard for domestic law is a mark of how low the Conservative party has sunk and the damage it is prepared to do to Britain to save itself.
Let the last word be these:-
"When a regime has been in power too long, when it has fatally exhausted the patience of the people, and when oblivion finally beckons - I am afraid that across the world you can rely on the leaders of that regime to act solely in the interests of self-preservation, and not in the interests of the electorate."
Well, quite.
And the author?
Oh, one Boris Johnson - in February 2011. Whatever happened to him?
Lionel Messi, Tom Cruise, Jeff Bezos, me, Vladimir Putin...
Not the most inexperienced Cabinet Secretary in living memory. Nor the various aides who have been parachuted in by Crosby. Nor literally the worst cabinet of no marks and hopeless sycophants since records began.
At least Cummings seemed able to call him a deluded twat to his face.
I suppose his ex wife might call.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEwpKCXirC8
You may be amused at this horrendous little (5ft 8 in his socks) man running our great nation into the ground, but the rest of us are certainly not laughing.
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Outing other PBers ok.
Aye, yer a Tory rotter right enough Sean.
He certainly has reached the governing stage of being furious and outright offended at people questioning his governance very quickly indeed.