The thing that seems strange about all the comments saying pressure must be put on Ukraine to give up territory or Putin must be given an off ramp, etc, is that it’s all unnecessary. If the different governments want to make their views known to the Ukr govt, they can...
Saying it out loud only puts more pressure on Ukr and gives more hope to Putin. So why do it? I can’t think of one thing it gains but publicity and point scoring. Far better to provide what aid to Ukr you want, quietly let your position be known, and then step back.
Tell the 8 yr old you're going to the The Minster. It's a monster of a building. Also, Guy Fawkes, his birthplace nearby. And Dick Turpin; well, his grave anyway.
The thing that seems strange about all the comments saying pressure must be put on Ukraine to give up territory or Putin must be given an off ramp, etc, is that it’s all unnecessary. If the different governments want to make their views known to the Ukr govt, they can...
Saying it out loud only puts more pressure on Ukr and gives more hope to Putin. So why do it? I can’t think of one thing it gains but publicity and point scoring. Far better to provide what aid to Ukr you want, quietly let your position be known, and then step back.
I hardly think they need help to realise it's an option anyway, albeit one they would really rather not pursue. They aren't stupid, but even if they think they have to go that way if things turn badly, it probably wouldn't help the morale of their defence, vital to their bargaining position, to preannouce they would be willing to give up the Donbas.
Tell the 8 yr old you're going to the The Minster. It's a monster of a building. Also, Guy Fawkes, his birthplace nearby. And Dick Turpin; well, his grave anyway.
Oh yes, the Minster. Basically just a modernised Roman Army HQ (it's still there in the basement).
I'm not familiar with Vanity Fair, could this be rewritten with a more familiary classic of equal significance, like The Animals of Farthing Wood? Truly topical with its themes of habitat destruction, and the controlling of one's baser instincts in service to the collective good.
Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar EXCL: Damning new Partygate photo of No 10 gathering where staff told: “The bar is open".
Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar · 1h Replying to @PippaCrerar My understanding is that neither Sue Gray nor the Met police have investigated this boozy do - even though 30-40 staff were present and WhatsApp messages show it was pre-planned.
The thing that seems strange about all the comments saying pressure must be put on Ukraine to give up territory or Putin must be given an off ramp, etc, is that it’s all unnecessary. If the different governments want to make their views known to the Ukr govt, they can...
Saying it out loud only puts more pressure on Ukr and gives more hope to Putin. So why do it? I can’t think of one thing it gains but publicity and point scoring. Far better to provide what aid to Ukr you want, quietly let your position be known, and then step back.
I hardly think they need help to realise it's an option anyway, albeit one they would really rather not pursue. They aren't stupid, but even if they think they have to go that way if things turn badly, it probably wouldn't help the morale of their defence, vital to their bargaining position, to preannouce they would be willing to give up the Donbas.
You've missed O'Brien's point. These supposedly helpful pieces of advice, given publicly, are decidely unhelpful to the Ukrainians.
I know that was the point, I was emphasising that point by saying even Ukraine acknowledged that advice privately, doing so publicly would be no help, so as he says being told it publicly doesn't help.
The thing that seems strange about all the comments saying pressure must be put on Ukraine to give up territory or Putin must be given an off ramp, etc, is that it’s all unnecessary. If the different governments want to make their views known to the Ukr govt, they can...
Saying it out loud only puts more pressure on Ukr and gives more hope to Putin. So why do it? I can’t think of one thing it gains but publicity and point scoring. Far better to provide what aid to Ukr you want, quietly let your position be known, and then step back.
I hardly think they need help to realise it's an option anyway, albeit one they would really rather not pursue. They aren't stupid, but even if they think they have to go that way if things turn badly, it probably wouldn't help the morale of their defence, vital to their bargaining position, to preannouce they would be willing to give up the Donbas.
You've missed O'Brien's point. These supposedly helpful pieces of advice, given publicly, are decidely unhelpful to the Ukrainians.
I know that was the point, I was emphasising that point by saying even Ukraine acknowledged that advice privately, doing so publicly would be no help, so as he says being told it publicly doesn't help.
Yeah, you got back in too quick to see that I'd retracted.
Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar EXCL: Damning new Partygate photo of No 10 gathering where staff told: “The bar is open".
Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar · 1h Replying to @PippaCrerar My understanding is that neither Sue Gray nor the Met police have investigated this boozy do - even though 30-40 staff were present and WhatsApp messages show it was pre-planned.
What's that, another police investigation to delay the report further?
Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar EXCL: Damning new Partygate photo of No 10 gathering where staff told: “The bar is open".
Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar · 1h Replying to @PippaCrerar My understanding is that neither Sue Gray nor the Met police have investigated this boozy do - even though 30-40 staff were present and WhatsApp messages show it was pre-planned.
What's that, another police investigation to delay the report further?
Such grand scheming - cut back resources, but also ensure incompetent leadership of what remains in the police, then act in such a way that they must look into you but due to said incompetence they just waste their time and have to engage in endless delays, meaning your internal opponents at least always have a reason to be put off.
I'm not familiar with Vanity Fair, could this be rewritten with a more familiary classic of equal significance, like The Animals of Farthing Wood? Truly topical with its themes of habitat destruction, and the controlling of one's baser instincts in service to the collective good.
Oh gosh, The Animals of Farthing Wood! That's essentially A Game of Thrones for children. The level of carnage is horrific.
I'm not familiar with Vanity Fair, could this be rewritten with a more familiary classic of equal significance, like The Animals of Farthing Wood? Truly topical with its themes of habitat destruction, and the controlling of one's baser instincts in service to the collective good.
Oh gosh, The Animals of Farthing Wood! That's essentially A Game of Thrones for children. The level of carnage is horrific.
I’ve rewatched The Animals of Farthing Wood. Here’s the horrific casualty list in full. Brace yourselves... (1/13)
The America news coming in now is desperately sad. But since nothing changed since Sandy Hook, it is not shocking.
I love America - but it is deeply flawed
Seems to happen every month or so. Incredible. But this is just totally normal for America because they have no interest in taking guns out of society.
I'm not familiar with Vanity Fair, could this be rewritten with a more familiary classic of equal significance, like The Animals of Farthing Wood? Truly topical with its themes of habitat destruction, and the controlling of one's baser instincts in service to the collective good.
It's a great novel. A must read. There is a drama interpretation of it on iPlayer. But it's the cynical sardonic and wonderfully funny authorial voice which really makes it. We need a Vanity Fair for our times.
Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar EXCL: Damning new Partygate photo of No 10 gathering where staff told: “The bar is open".
Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar · 1h Replying to @PippaCrerar My understanding is that neither Sue Gray nor the Met police have investigated this boozy do - even though 30-40 staff were present and WhatsApp messages show it was pre-planned.
What's that, another police investigation to delay the report further?
They showed that pic on ITV - no faces. Could be anywhere
Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar EXCL: Damning new Partygate photo of No 10 gathering where staff told: “The bar is open".
Pippa Crerar @PippaCrerar · 1h Replying to @PippaCrerar My understanding is that neither Sue Gray nor the Met police have investigated this boozy do - even though 30-40 staff were present and WhatsApp messages show it was pre-planned.
What's that, another police investigation to delay the report further?
They showed that pic on ITV - no faces. Could be anywhere
Well I doubt they are using a photo that isn't in No 10, or of random strangers. Unless you think they are just making it up?
Report on Xinjiang on BBC. Unfortunately, all I hear is the multiple different incorrect pronunciations. Didn't the Beeb used to have a special department for this?
If only those kids were all carrying guns will be the NRA response .
We’ll hear the thoughts and prayers wheeled out and lots of footage of vigils and candles and it will all be forgotten in a few days and then rinse and repeat .
If only those kids were all carrying guns will be the NRA response .
We’ll hear the thoughts and prayers wheeled out and lots of footage of vigils and candles and it will all be forgotten in a few days and then rinse and repeat .
Doubtless "false flag" will make an appearance in a while.
The America news coming in now is desperately sad. But since nothing changed since Sandy Hook, it is not shocking.
I love America - but it is deeply flawed
After the Aurora shooting, and nothing happening, I wondered if something like Dunblane might shock America into action. Sandy Hook showed that not to be the case.
I honestly wonder if even something on the scale of Beslan would make a difference. My hunch now is that it wouldn't. America would tolerate hundreds killed in a shooting, the Las Vegas shooting had hundreds injured and 60 deaths, and that was soon forgotten about.
There doesn't seem to be anything that will change America's love of guns.
“There’s no words to describe how horrific this is,” said Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas, speaking to reporters on Capitol Hill. He added, “We’re still trying to get a clear picture of what happened and what the motivation was.”
NY Times.
Stop giving the mentally ill loads of guns you twats.
If only those kids were all carrying guns will be the NRA response .
We’ll hear the thoughts and prayers wheeled out and lots of footage of vigils and candles and it will all be forgotten in a few days and then rinse and repeat .
Doubtless "false flag" will make an appearance in a while.
The first such claims have already been made I read them shortly after seeing the news on the BBC.
Uvalde shooting is mainly v young kids. At least a dozen.
America's Dunblane?
Nah this is pretty tame compared to the New Town one.
The Governor was a sick fuck casting doubt on the use of an assault rifle (even if one wasn't used). Don't politicise it immediately.
This tweet from 2015 is getting quite the airing.
He will just say it is the wrong moment to be 'divisive'. Indeed, it is always the wrong time to do anything, as we've seen. The voters there seem happy to continue the situation indefinitely.
Perhaps we could blame violent films or videogames though (they don't have those anywhere else, you see).
The thing that seems strange about all the comments saying pressure must be put on Ukraine to give up territory or Putin must be given an off ramp, etc, is that it’s all unnecessary. If the different governments want to make their views known to the Ukr govt, they can...
Saying it out loud only puts more pressure on Ukr and gives more hope to Putin. So why do it? I can’t think of one thing it gains but publicity and point scoring. Far better to provide what aid to Ukr you want, quietly let your position be known, and then step back.
I don’t think it’s the governments saying this. I think it’s the likes of Schroeder. (“Senior figures”). They have lost but are still trying to influence the debate in Russia’s favour
If only those kids were all carrying guns will be the NRA response .
We’ll hear the thoughts and prayers wheeled out and lots of footage of vigils and candles and it will all be forgotten in a few days and then rinse and repeat .
Doubtless "false flag" will make an appearance in a while.
The first such claims have already been made I read them shortly after seeing the news on the BBC.
Yeah. I almost said or has already. But thought that overly cynical. Obviously not. Have the parents been defamed yet?
The thing that seems strange about all the comments saying pressure must be put on Ukraine to give up territory or Putin must be given an off ramp, etc, is that it’s all unnecessary. If the different governments want to make their views known to the Ukr govt, they can...
Saying it out loud only puts more pressure on Ukr and gives more hope to Putin. So why do it? I can’t think of one thing it gains but publicity and point scoring. Far better to provide what aid to Ukr you want, quietly let your position be known, and then step back.
I don’t think it’s the governments saying this. I think it’s the likes of Schroeder. (“Senior figures”). They have lost but are still trying to influence the debate in Russia’s favour
Probably true, but as the more pessimistic amongst us might suggest, as things go on the odds are some governments are going to be suggesting the same at some point. The unity has been predicted to be frayed even before now, and thankfully has not, and we hope it will not, but it's a possibility. My fear is if the Ukrainians do manage to go on the counter offensive it is then that the alliance will fray.
Doesn't the time fly when you're having fun ......
It was excellent. And weren’t they all ?
Though I have to say Becky is a more entertaining, even appealing character than is Boris.
Yes, great piece, Cyclefree. I must admit I've never read Vanity Fair (still time...) but I did enjoy the BBC series released as one of that glorious run of classic productions in the 70s (like the Forsyte Saga with Susan Hampshire).
I mean, it was less than 5 years ago that 411 people were shot in a SINGLE incident in Las Vegas, and nobody even talks about it.
It's amazing how such a massive attack disappeared from the news so quickly. I didn't even seem to generate the kind of soul-searching articles you would get in the left leaning press in the US, as has happened with other shootings. With no clear motive or angle even the anti-gun people weren't that interested. It was treated more like a natural disaster.
I mean, it was less than 5 years ago that 411 people were shot in a SINGLE incident in Las Vegas, and nobody even talks about it.
It's amazing how such a massive attack disappeared from the news so quickly. I didn't even seem to generate the kind of soul-searching articles you would get in the left leaning press in the US, as has happened with other shootings. With no clear motive or angle even the anti-gun people weren't that interested. It was treated more like a natural disaster.
If only those kids were all carrying guns will be the NRA response .
We’ll hear the thoughts and prayers wheeled out and lots of footage of vigils and candles and it will all be forgotten in a few days and then rinse and repeat .
Doubtless "false flag" will make an appearance in a while.
The first such claims have already been made I read them shortly after seeing the news on the BBC.
Yeah. I almost said or has already. But thought that overly cynical. Obviously not. Have the parents been defamed yet?
Probably, but it was mainly "false flag, they are coming to take our guns" as though the hundreds of other similar events in the past weren't already cause enough if that really was the intent of the US government.
See the usual newspapers have gone with the 'look, squirrel' briefing of windfall tax "within days" to avoid further discussion of the law breaking piss-ups.
Looks as though Carnyx was wrong about Labour not going into any coalition with the SNP interestingly.
Some very interesting council formations.
Does beg the question as to why the SNP have been able to form administrations as a minority on some councils like Midlothian and East Dunbartonshire (where they could in theory have been shut out) but not on others?
I mean, it was less than 5 years ago that 411 people were shot in a SINGLE incident in Las Vegas, and nobody even talks about it.
It's amazing how such a massive attack disappeared from the news so quickly. I didn't even seem to generate the kind of soul-searching articles you would get in the left leaning press in the US, as has happened with other shootings. With no clear motive or angle even the anti-gun people weren't that interested. It was treated more like a natural disaster.
Its only a month since we had madman on the NY subway set off smoke bombs and shot 10...and a week since 10 shot in Buffalo supermarket....
Most of them don't even make the news here. My first night in the USA, San Diego 1982, there was a mass shooting on the local news in LA. It was not the top story. Seriously.realised I was not in UK.
What have I got wrong then. FT headline, Energy groups find it incredible Boris government is going to whack them with a windfall tax. The negatives economically, is companies made a loss during covid, but we still expect them to pour investment in to transform and revolutionise the energy sector where they can, despite creaming off their profits in a good year, and utterly undermining anyway of working well with them for the time being to change the energy sector as the government plans? Aside from this money is better invested by the companies themselves on research and development, and production capacity, it’s dividends are paid to pension funds. Oil businesses works in cyclical way, surely it’s a dangerous game for any government to go into the market claiming “your profits are underserved”, but particularly for the Conservatives whose policy principles are founded upon faith in the market? For example in terms of fairness are the energy companies the only ones in profit right now, short term though it may be for them, what about Amazon? Why pick on some making huge profit this year, not the others? This is the long-standing Conservative understanding of fairness Boris all over the shop government is about to rip up, whilst his PLP and party at large zip their mouths and don’t react.
And the negatives politically, you think of how much money the Tory’s will spend in the next general election campaign trying to beat Labour, they might well take that money outside now and burn it for as much good it does them after gifting Starmer and his front bench a multi billion pound makeover by surrendering lock stock and barrel to his policy idea - it will make Starmer look like the idea’s man to rescue the public from cost of living nightmare and the true leader of the country, whilst the Tory’s merely dither short on solutions. Give him this one, he will just March into the commons with another five policies you have to go ahead with or be damned. If Tory’s go ahead with a windfall tax now after several months explaining why it’s wrong headed and a Starmer mistake, the government becomes Starmer’s bitch.
So what’s in it for the government? Whatever it is, it’s got to be massively outweigh by the political, reputational, and economical negatives?
Labour supporters replying to this post saying “but we love it” firstly have to admit there are some downsides to doing this I addressed in para 1, also of course you would say that, it’s matter of perspective, Conservatives and Capitalists shouldn’t think and behave like socialists should they, where’s the clear blue water then between Boris and the Labour Party?
I mean, it was less than 5 years ago that 411 people were shot in a SINGLE incident in Las Vegas, and nobody even talks about it.
It's amazing how such a massive attack disappeared from the news so quickly. I didn't even seem to generate the kind of soul-searching articles you would get in the left leaning press in the US, as has happened with other shootings. With no clear motive or angle even the anti-gun people weren't that interested. It was treated more like a natural disaster.
Its only a month since we had madman on the NY subway set off smoke bombs and shot 10...and a week since 10 shot in Buffalo supermarket....
It's just awful. The wilful refusal to believe in reality of the American right wing. The problem is that they stuck with religion far longer than the rest of the world so they never caught up on their critical thinking. They don't have the faculty to accept the scientific reality behind vaccines, or gun control, or climate change.
Looks as though Carnyx was wrong about Labour not going into any coalition with the SNP interestingly.
Some very interesting council formations.
Does beg the question as to why the SNP have been able to form administrations as a minority on some councils like Midlothian and East Dunbartonshire (where they could in theory have been shut out) but not on others?
That's a double surprise, as (a) Mr Sarwar was the one who was going on and on about going into coalitions with anyone at all, and (b) the tendency has consistently been Lab + Tory with some LD.
The headline/URL is also misleading as it doesn't mention the Independent group who are also involved.
The actual results are:
Scottish Conservative and Unionist - 16 Scottish National Party - 11 Scottish Labour Party - 9 Scottish Liberal Democrats - 1 Independent - 6
So one would have thought that Tory + Ind would be amply sufficient. But without that it would have to be Tory + Lab. Maybe some local factor ?
The America news coming in now is desperately sad. But since nothing changed since Sandy Hook, it is not shocking.
I love America - but it is deeply flawed
After the Aurora shooting, and nothing happening, I wondered if something like Dunblane might shock America into action. Sandy Hook showed that not to be the case.
I honestly wonder if even something on the scale of Beslan would make a difference. My hunch now is that it wouldn't. America would tolerate hundreds killed in a shooting, the Las Vegas shooting had hundreds injured and 60 deaths, and that was soon forgotten about.
There doesn't seem to be anything that will change America's love of guns.
I mean, it was less than 5 years ago that 411 people were shot in a SINGLE incident in Las Vegas, and nobody even talks about it. America is a shithole country. Half the people are mad, and half the country are imbeciles.
And of course that incident was a sniper hidden in one of thousands of hotel windows. So the loons argument of "a bad guy with a gun can be stopped by a good guy with a gun" was shown to be insane.
There is a program that has had considerable success in taking guns away from criminals in parts of the United States. It is commonly known as "stop and frisk", but has a different legal name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_stop
It was so successful in New York City that criminals there began to use "community" guns. Rather than carry a gun on them, where it might be confiscated by a suspicious police officer, they would conceal them in public places, retrieving them only when they were about to commit a crime.
(They were called "community" guns because one gun was often shared by several criminals.)
Why wasn't this used more? The obvious reason; to make it work in New York, the police officers had to stop many young black and Hispanic men. That the program also saved the lives of hundreds in the same groups was not considered a sufficient reason to keep it.
Was it sometimes abused? Since police officers are, like the rest fo us, human, I'm sure it was.
I haven't read Vanity Fair, and after this header I never will
I have read two Thackeray, Vanity Fair and Pendennis that was just as good. But the joy of the books is unfilmable. Screen needs heroes and heroines or at least anti heroes, something where everyone is bad works so well in books but not on screen.
Just looked at the Wiki page listing school (and university) shootings in the USA. Even if we think this has been going on forever, instances including the worst events have been accelerating greatly since the turn of this century - it looks like 10 of the 11 US education setting shootings with 10 or more fatalities (if I'm counting correctly) have happened since 1999.
I'm certainly no pro second amendment nut, but there is a productive side discussion to be had about the factors, other than the very existence of guns, that have driven this, really quite recent, acceleration.
Most of them don't even make the news here. My first night in the USA, San Diego 1982, there was a mass shooting on the local news in LA. It was not the top story. Seriously.realised I was not in UK.
I lived in Atlanta GA in the late Seventies, a city with a population similar to Northern Ireland. Atlanta had a substantially higher murder rate.
In 1975, while my folks were doing some shopping, my 13 yr old brother and I wandered into the gunshop next to the supermarket. When my folks found us, my brother was handling a Thompson sub-machine gun, and the shop owner was asking us if he wanted to take it to his shooting range.
Can't we find a better way of funding our retirement than leeching off people's gas bills? Is that really beyond us?
No you don’t understand, in recent decades energy prices paid by households was fair enough, dividends to a good place like pension funds is not leeching off consumers in that scenario. The problem with windfall tax is government marching into a market, arbitrary pointing at someone and declaring your profits this year are undeserved.
Vanity Fair is unfilmable because it’s a picaresque series of comic episodes; it’s the wrong structure.
I say that; Barry Lyndon is similar and of course was filmed by Kubrick. I believe it was panned at the time but some now regard it as his masterpiece.
The America news coming in now is desperately sad. But since nothing changed since Sandy Hook, it is not shocking.
I love America - but it is deeply flawed
After the Aurora shooting, and nothing happening, I wondered if something like Dunblane might shock America into action. Sandy Hook showed that not to be the case.
I honestly wonder if even something on the scale of Beslan would make a difference. My hunch now is that it wouldn't. America would tolerate hundreds killed in a shooting, the Las Vegas shooting had hundreds injured and 60 deaths, and that was soon forgotten about.
There doesn't seem to be anything that will change America's love of guns.
I mean, it was less than 5 years ago that 411 people were shot in a SINGLE incident in Las Vegas, and nobody even talks about it. America is a shithole country. Half the people are mad, and half the country are imbeciles.
So the loons argument of "a bad guy with a gun can be stopped by a good guy with a gun" was shown to be insane.
And yet it seemed like such a sound, logic based position. I am shocked.
Even Telegraph now admitting a windfall tax this week is a dead cat.
Of course it is, it doesn't solve anything at all.
It was a really stupid idea when the Opposition proposed it.
It will be a really stupid idea when the Government does it.
Utterly counterproductive but this tired socialist Government hasn't got a clue.
If all we're going to get washed up Labour policies and Gordon Brown's favourite tax rises, why not just have the real deal doing it and let the Tories sort themselves out in Opposition.
Looks as though Carnyx was wrong about Labour not going into any coalition with the SNP interestingly.
Some very interesting council formations.
Does beg the question as to why the SNP have been able to form administrations as a minority on some councils like Midlothian and East Dunbartonshire (where they could in theory have been shut out) but not on others?
That's a double surprise, as (a) Mr Sarwar was the one who was going on and on about going into coalitions with anyone at all, and (b) the tendency has consistently been Lab + Tory with some LD.
The headline/URL is also misleading as it doesn't mention the Independent group who are also involved.
The actual results are:
Scottish Conservative and Unionist - 16 Scottish National Party - 11 Scottish Labour Party - 9 Scottish Liberal Democrats - 1 Independent - 6
So one would have thought that Tory + Ind would be amply sufficient. But without that it would have to be Tory + Lab. Maybe some local factor ?
Dumfries has had SNP-Con and SNP-Lab and Lab-Ind control in the last few years. This is 2012-2017:
The council was controlled by a Conservative and Scottish National Party (SNP) coalition until late 2013, when the resignation of seven Conservative councillors left the coalition without an outright majority.[40] The council was then controlled from October 2013 by a Labour and SNP coalition[41] until June 2014, when the SNP left due to concerns about how a decision was taken to site a learning hub in Dumfries.[42] The council was then run by a minority administration led by Scottish Labour and Craig Peacock, an Independent, until the 2017 elections. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumfries_and_Galloway
Having kept an occasional eye on Scottish / Welsh LG coalitions over the years, it is genuinely very variable.
Can't we find a better way of funding our retirement than leeching off people's gas bills? Is that really beyond us?
Some facts. The standard UC after rent for single under 25's is £ 265.31 per calendar month. For over 25's is £ 334.91. The average energy bill from October is predicted to be £233.33 per calendar month. This is not sustainable. Regardless of any fucker's pension fund.
Just looked at the Wiki page listing school (and university) shootings in the USA. Even if we think this has been going on forever, instances including the worst events have been accelerating greatly since the turn of this century - it looks like 10 of the 11 US education setting shootings with 10 or more fatalities (if I'm counting correctly) have happened since 1999.
I'm certainly no pro second amendment nut, but there is a productive side discussion to be had about the factors, other than the very existence of guns, that have driven this, really quite recent, acceleration.
The thing that seems strange about all the comments saying pressure must be put on Ukraine to give up territory or Putin must be given an off ramp, etc, is that it’s all unnecessary. If the different governments want to make their views known to the Ukr govt, they can...
Saying it out loud only puts more pressure on Ukr and gives more hope to Putin. So why do it? I can’t think of one thing it gains but publicity and point scoring. Far better to provide what aid to Ukr you want, quietly let your position be known, and then step back.
I don’t think it’s the governments saying this. I think it’s the likes of Schroeder. (“Senior figures”). They have lost but are still trying to influence the debate in Russia’s favour
They are the worst, but I wouldn't underestimate the willingness of the French, German, Italian or Hungarian governments to push for Ukraine to make "concessions".
A windfall tax is a great idea because the idea that energy is a free market is bullshit anyway. These guys live by regulatory and political arbitrage.
It won’t raise much but every little helps. The immediate fiscal priority must be to reverse the universal credit cuts.
Just looked at the Wiki page listing school (and university) shootings in the USA. Even if we think this has been going on forever, instances including the worst events have been accelerating greatly since the turn of this century - it looks like 10 of the 11 US education setting shootings with 10 or more fatalities (if I'm counting correctly) have happened since 1999.
I'm certainly no pro second amendment nut, but there is a productive side discussion to be had about the factors, other than the very existence of guns, that have driven this, really quite recent, acceleration.
There is definitely an element of shooters seeking notoriety, and aping previous shootings. So publicity of shootings probably does drive other shootings, this is also said to be an issue with suicides.
Social media plays a part because a would-be shooter can easily make a statement now that will bypass attempts to censor them, they can also find idiots who will egg them on and endorse the justification of such attacks, and they can even find a live audience now by streaming their attacks.
Those are side issues though, lots of gun leads to lots of shootings of all types.
There is a program that has had considerable success in taking guns away from criminals in parts of the United States. It is commonly known as "stop and frisk", but has a different legal name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_stop
It was so successful in New York City that criminals there began to use "community" guns. Rather than carry a gun on them, where it might be confiscated by a suspicious police officer, they would conceal them in public places, retrieving them only when they were about to commit a crime.
(They were called "community" guns because one gun was often shared by several criminals.)
Why wasn't this used more? The obvious reason; to make it work in New York, the police officers had to stop many young black and Hispanic men. That the program also saved the lives of hundreds in the same groups was not considered a sufficient reason to keep it.
Was it sometimes abused? Since police officers are, like the rest fo us, human, I'm sure it was.
Yglesias has a summary of the studies on this. It seems like putting a load of police on the streets of high-crime areas and having them frisk people did help reduce crime, but no more than you'd expect if you'd put the police on the streets of high-crime areas and not had them frisk people.
There is a program that has had considerable success in taking guns away from criminals in parts of the United States. It is commonly known as "stop and frisk", but has a different legal name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_stop
It was so successful in New York City that criminals there began to use "community" guns. Rather than carry a gun on them, where it might be confiscated by a suspicious police officer, they would conceal them in public places, retrieving them only when they were about to commit a crime.
(They were called "community" guns because one gun was often shared by several criminals.)
Why wasn't this used more? The obvious reason; to make it work in New York, the police officers had to stop many young black and Hispanic men. That the program also saved the lives of hundreds in the same groups was not considered a sufficient reason to keep it.
Was it sometimes abused? Since police officers are, like the rest fo us, human, I'm sure it was.
These school shootings arent usually by urban criminals though are they? They seem to be by suburban teenagers.
Can't we find a better way of funding our retirement than leeching off people's gas bills? Is that really beyond us?
Some facts. The standard UC after rent for single under 25's is £ 265.31 per calendar month. For over 25's is £ 334.91. The average energy bill from October is predicted to be £233.33 per calendar month. This is not sustainable. Regardless of any fucker's pension fund.
And before anyone says small flat, don't use any energy. The standing charge percentage of that is huge. You could literally never turn it on and still be paying a whopping proportion.
I mean, it was less than 5 years ago that 411 people were shot in a SINGLE incident in Las Vegas, and nobody even talks about it.
It's amazing how such a massive attack disappeared from the news so quickly. I didn't even seem to generate the kind of soul-searching articles you would get in the left leaning press in the US, as has happened with other shootings. With no clear motive or angle even the anti-gun people weren't that interested. It was treated more like a natural disaster.
Must admit I'd forgotten all about it.
I was in Las Vegas for a conference a few weeks later, and the city itself was trying to emphasise that a few hundred shot wouldn't change it.
Can't we find a better way of funding our retirement than leeching off people's gas bills? Is that really beyond us?
Some facts. The standard UC after rent for single under 25's is £ 265.31 per calendar month. For over 25's is £ 334.91. The average energy bill from October is predicted to be £233.33 per calendar month. This is not sustainable. Regardless of any fucker's pension fund.
And before anyone says small flat, don't use any energy. The standing charge percentage of that is huge. You could literally never turn it on and still be paying a whopping proportion.
Sounds like another rort whereby the poorest subsidise the wealthiest.
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The suspect, a resident of Ohio, allegedly sought to have Iraqi operatives smuggled into the US from Mexico for the operation.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61569650
The last man to hold the post was Yevgeny Zinichev, also an ex-Putin guard, who died falling down a 90ft waterfall
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10849793/Putin-promotes-bodyguard-Emergencies-Minister-predecessor-fell-death-90ft-waterfall.html
1. walk the circuit of the wall walk around the town walls (and there is a nice model and train shop at the north gate if that helps) (there are two circuits, incomplete, one north and one sout of the river)
2. Yorkshire Museum - nice fossils and roman remains
3. https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/york-cold-war-bunker/ - not been but intend to ...
4. https://www.visityork.org/business-directory/yorkshire-air-museum - ditto ...
5. York Castle on a motte
The thing that seems strange about all the comments saying pressure must be put on Ukraine to give up territory or Putin must be given an off ramp, etc, is that it’s all unnecessary. If the different governments want to make their views known to the Ukr govt, they can...
Saying it out loud only puts more pressure on Ukr and gives more hope to Putin. So why do it? I can’t think of one thing it gains but publicity and point scoring. Far better to provide what aid to Ukr you want, quietly let your position be known, and then step back.
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My understanding is that neither Sue Gray nor the Met police have investigated this boozy do - even though 30-40 staff were present and WhatsApp messages show it was pre-planned.
https://twitter.com/bilbo983/status/957622846632742912?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^957622846632742912|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/gruesome-body-count-shows-animals-11933343
If memory serves the first book ends with the animals engaging in an impromptu piss up, so it truly for our time.
I love America - but it is deeply flawed
It's a great novel. A must read. There is a drama interpretation of it on iPlayer. But it's the cynical sardonic and wonderfully funny authorial voice which really makes it. We need a Vanity Fair for our times.
Since 2016.
Doesn't the time fly when you're having fun ......
Can't really describe how angry this article makes me.
"Cookie didn't attack - a tragic accident"
"Passive dog"
Fuck off. If it can kill a man with a bite to the leg it would make short work of someone's toddler.
I'm well up for zero-tolerance on any dog that bites anyone. Should be put down immediately, and the owners banned from keeping them.
America's Dunblane?
I'm sure it's good, but it might as well be in Urdu for me.
Unfortunately, all I hear is the multiple different incorrect pronunciations. Didn't the Beeb used to have a special department for this?
14 kids and 1 teacher dead.
We’ll hear the thoughts and prayers wheeled out and lots of footage of vigils and candles and it will all be forgotten in a few days and then rinse and repeat .
I've an idea off the top of my head which may aid his comprehension, if that would help?
The Governor was a sick fuck casting doubt on the use of an assault rifle (even if one wasn't used). Don't politicise it immediately.
https://www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk/
Glowering Boris as he tightens his tie.
It's not the best, is it?
I never imagined he looked like that!
Writes well for a dog.
I honestly wonder if even something on the scale of Beslan would make a difference. My hunch now is that it wouldn't. America would tolerate hundreds killed in a shooting, the Las Vegas shooting had hundreds injured and 60 deaths, and that was soon forgotten about.
There doesn't seem to be anything that will change America's love of guns.
Regularly.
That is indeed incomprehensible.
And weren’t they all ?
Though I have to say Becky is a more entertaining, even appealing character than is Boris.
NY Times.
Stop giving the mentally ill loads of guns you twats.
For official free burial ppl must record video saying 🇺🇦Army killed their relatives, not Russia. Bodies pile up in street.
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1529205600269357058
Perhaps we could blame violent films or videogames though (they don't have those anywhere else, you see).
Student at nearby High School. Also shot his grandmother.
But thought that overly cynical. Obviously not.
Have the parents been defamed yet?
About 30 minutes after the polling stations close.
Looks as though Carnyx was wrong about Labour not going into any coalition with the SNP interestingly.
Some very interesting council formations.
Does beg the question as to why the SNP have been able to form administrations as a minority on some councils like Midlothian and East Dunbartonshire (where they could in theory have been shut out) but not on others?
It’s amazing how just quickly the treasury can move when it’s a case of operation deflect the news from partygate .
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022
Most of them don't even make the news here.
My first night in the USA, San Diego 1982, there was a mass shooting on the local news in LA.
It was not the top story. Seriously.realised I was not in UK.
And the negatives politically, you think of how much money the Tory’s will spend in the next general election campaign trying to beat Labour, they might well take that money outside now and burn it for as much good it does them after gifting Starmer and his front bench a multi billion pound makeover by surrendering lock stock and barrel to his policy idea - it will make Starmer look like the idea’s man to rescue the public from cost of living nightmare and the true leader of the country, whilst the Tory’s merely dither short on solutions. Give him this one, he will just March into the commons with another five policies you have to go ahead with or be damned. If Tory’s go ahead with a windfall tax now after several months explaining why it’s wrong headed and a Starmer mistake, the government becomes Starmer’s bitch.
So what’s in it for the government? Whatever it is, it’s got to be massively outweigh by the political, reputational, and economical negatives?
Labour supporters replying to this post saying “but we love it” firstly have to admit there are some downsides to doing this I addressed in para 1, also of course you would say that, it’s matter of perspective, Conservatives and Capitalists shouldn’t think and behave like socialists should they, where’s the clear blue water then between Boris and the Labour Party?
The headline/URL is also misleading as it doesn't mention the Independent group who are also involved.
The actual results are:
Scottish Conservative and Unionist - 16
Scottish National Party - 11
Scottish Labour Party - 9
Scottish Liberal Democrats - 1
Independent - 6
So one would have thought that Tory + Ind would be amply sufficient. But without that it would have to be Tory + Lab. Maybe some local factor ?
It was so successful in New York City that criminals there began to use "community" guns. Rather than carry a gun on them, where it might be confiscated by a suspicious police officer, they would conceal them in public places, retrieving them only when they were about to commit a crime.
(They were called "community" guns because one gun was often shared by several criminals.)
Why wasn't this used more? The obvious reason; to make it work in New York, the police officers had to stop many young black and Hispanic men. That the program also saved the lives of hundreds in the same groups was not considered a sufficient reason to keep it.
Was it sometimes abused? Since police officers are, like the rest fo us, human, I'm sure it was.
I'm certainly no pro second amendment nut, but there is a productive side discussion to be had about the factors, other than the very existence of guns, that have driven this, really quite recent, acceleration.
Edit: a separate list from dixiedean's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfla1
In 1975, while my folks were doing some shopping, my 13 yr old brother and I wandered into the gunshop next to the supermarket. When my folks found us, my brother was handling a Thompson sub-machine gun, and the shop owner was asking us if he wanted to take it to his shooting range.
Get your shit together.
That is all.
I say that; Barry Lyndon is similar and of course was filmed by Kubrick. I believe it was panned at the time but some now regard it as his masterpiece.
It will be a really stupid idea when the Government does it.
Utterly counterproductive but this tired socialist Government hasn't got a clue.
If all we're going to get washed up Labour policies and Gordon Brown's favourite tax rises, why not just have the real deal doing it and let the Tories sort themselves out in Opposition.
The council was controlled by a Conservative and Scottish National Party (SNP) coalition until late 2013, when the resignation of seven Conservative councillors left the coalition without an outright majority.[40] The council was then controlled from October 2013 by a Labour and SNP coalition[41] until June 2014, when the SNP left due to concerns about how a decision was taken to site a learning hub in Dumfries.[42] The council was then run by a minority administration led by Scottish Labour and Craig Peacock, an Independent, until the 2017 elections.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumfries_and_Galloway
Having kept an occasional eye on Scottish / Welsh LG coalitions over the years, it is genuinely very variable.
The standard UC after rent for single under 25's is £ 265.31 per calendar month.
For over 25's is £ 334.91.
The average energy bill from October is predicted to be £233.33 per calendar month.
This is not sustainable.
Regardless of any fucker's pension fund.
America is often an inspiration, but also a warning.
It seemed to have little effect on the overall murder rate, but may have had effect on limiting mass shootings.
It won’t raise much but every little helps.
The immediate fiscal priority must be to reverse the universal credit cuts.
Social media plays a part because a would-be shooter can easily make a statement now that will bypass attempts to censor them, they can also find idiots who will egg them on and endorse the justification of such attacks, and they can even find a live audience now by streaming their attacks.
Those are side issues though, lots of gun leads to lots of shootings of all types.
https://www.slowboring.com/p/eriic-adams-stop-frisk?s=r
Nothing will change. Nothing ever will.
But lets tell women they can't control their own bodies because life is sacred, or something or other.