Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
I have just read the rules. They say a leader who resigns cannot stand again. Boris will not resign even if he loses a VONC, he is as stubborn as Corbyn and Trump and will use every trick possible to keep the leadership until no alternative
Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
@HYUFD is contesting this on the last thread. But he’s forget in the beauty that is the unwritten constitution the institute of government’s role is analogous to Bagehot
Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
One thing that does puzzle me - notwithstanding this, because as I explained the process seems to be 'you resign if you lose a confidence vote, and leaders who resign can't now stand again' - is where the rules on a VONC are actually set out. Are they in the proceedings of the 1922 Committee or something? Because they're not in the party Constitution and I can't find them written down anywhere in an official Conservative source. Everyone just seems to know what they are.
Not just a theoretical point, I'm teaching about this in a week or so!
Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
What happens if the leader in that situation doesn't resign? The party constitution is silent on the matter of VONCs, the rules of which therefore are presumably just decided by the 1922 Committee.
Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
I have just read the rules. They say a leader who resigns cannot stand again. Boris will not resign even if he loses a VONC, he is as stubborn as Corbyn and Trump and will use every trick possible to keep the leadership until no alternative
There's a different research briefing on VOCs.
So the Institute of Government and Full Fact know better than you.
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
It says, at Schedule 2 1 that a leader who resigns is unable to make a re application to be party leader in a leadership election.
No explicit reference to a leader who loses a VONC though
Technically a leader who loses a vote of no confidence resigns, just as a PM who loses an election does so.
However, interestingly I can't see anywhere it sets out the rules for a confidence motion. So it may be more ad hoc than that.
Equally, I cannot imagine that Graham Brady would accept a nomination for somebody who lost a VONC as valid even if Johnson tried to stand again.
Boris is as stubborn as Corbyn and Trump, he won't resign unless he has used every trick available to try and keep the leadership.
If Brady tries and blocks him standing again could we even see Boris loyalists try and storm the 1922 cttee?
I'm assuming the second paragraph is comedy, but regardless of that, does someone as stubborn as Corbyn or Trump sound like the right kind of person to lead a political party?
Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
I have just read the rules. They say a leader who resigns cannot stand again. Boris will not resign even if he loses a VONC, he is as stubborn as Corbyn and Trump and will use every trick possible to keep the leadership until no alternative
Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
I have just read the rules. They say a leader who resigns cannot stand again. Boris will not resign even if he loses a VONC, he is as stubborn as Corbyn and Trump and will use every trick possible to keep the leadership until no alternative
Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
One thing that does puzzle me - notwithstanding this, because as I explained the process seems to be 'you resign if you lose a confidence vote, and leaders who resign can't now stand again' - is where the rules on a VONC are actually set out. Are they in the proceedings of the 1922 Committee or something? Because they're not in the party Constitution and I can't find them written down anywhere in an official Conservative source. Everyone just seems to know what they are.
Not just a theoretical point, I'm teaching about this in a week or so!
Any guidance gratefully received.
I've asked Lord Hague for his papers, he wrote the original rules, and one of his staffers says the rules say losing a VONC prevents you standing again.
Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
I have just read the rules. They say a leader who resigns cannot stand again. Boris will not resign even if he loses a VONC, he is as stubborn as Corbyn and Trump and will use every trick possible to keep the leadership until no alternative
"They say a leader who resigns cannot stand again"
Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
I have just read the rules. They say a leader who resigns cannot stand again. Boris will not resign even if he loses a VONC, he is as stubborn as Corbyn and Trump and will use every trick possible to keep the leadership until no alternative
You are simply a disgrace to the conservative party
You will be suggesting he storms the 1922 next - whoops you have
Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
I have just read the rules. They say a leader who resigns cannot stand again. Boris will not resign even if he loses a VONC, he is as stubborn as Corbyn and Trump and will use every trick possible to keep the leadership until no alternative
I'm just thinking of Sir Sion Trefor, or John Trevor, the last speaker to be fired before Martin in I think 1695. He refused to turn up for the vote when he was due to be evicted, claiming he was ill. He was hoping that would mean the House couldn't sit. But they just elected a new speaker anyway and carried on.
Similarly, if Johnson decided to sulk Brady would just ignore him and hold a vote anyway, then the House of Commons would vote in his successor.
Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
I have just read the rules. They say a leader who resigns cannot stand again. Boris will not resign even if he loses a VONC, he is as stubborn as Corbyn and Trump and will use every trick possible to keep the leadership until no alternative
Do they?
"Background information
A leadership contest can be triggered in two ways:
If 15% of Conservative MPs write to the Chairman of the 1922 Committee saying they no longer have confidence in the leader of the Conservative Party, orif the current leader resigns.
A leader losing the confidence of the Parliamentary party is not allowed to participate in the resulting leadership election."
If that is correct, then it *is* on the face of it still possible to do a Major, but conversely if bj is vonced he is out and can't stand again, no requirement for him to resign
Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
I have just read the rules. They say a leader who resigns cannot stand again. Boris will not resign even if he loses a VONC, he is as stubborn as Corbyn and Trump and will use every trick possible to keep the leadership until no alternative
You are simply a disgrace to the conservative party
You will be suggesting he storming 1922 next - whoops you have
Boris Johnson attended a prosecco-fuelled leaving do for a No 10 aide during the strict post-Christmas lockdown, which is now under police investigation, the Guardian has learned.
Sue Gray’s investigation into lockdown parties this week revealed several events that had not previously been publicised, including a gathering on 14 January 2021 “on the departure of two No 10 private secretaries”. But the redacted report revealed no further details.
Sources said the event was held in Downing Street in part as a leaving do for a senior policy adviser who is now a top civil servant working in the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport.
Prosecco is alleged to have been drunk by some staff, with Johnson understood to have given a speech thanking the official for their work and staying for around five minutes.
England’s third national Covid lockdown came into force just over a week earlier, on 6 January, with a “stay at home” order banning people from leaving their home except for a handful of reasons including where it was not possible to work from home. The previous month, the prime minister had effectively cancelled Christmas for millions of people amid surging Covid cases.
The revelation places Johnson at another event under investigation by Scotland Yard.
Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
One thing that does puzzle me - notwithstanding this, because as I explained the process seems to be 'you resign if you lose a confidence vote, and leaders who resign can't now stand again' - is where the rules on a VONC are actually set out. Are they in the proceedings of the 1922 Committee or something? Because they're not in the party Constitution and I can't find them written down anywhere in an official Conservative source. Everyone just seems to know what they are.
Not just a theoretical point, I'm teaching about this in a week or so!
Any guidance gratefully received.
I've asked Lord Hague for his papers, he wrote the original rules, and one of his staffers says the rules say losing a VONC prevents you standing again.
Yes, but are they just in Hague's private papers? I mean - surely they should be written down elsewhere, somewhere official?
The gap is impressive, as is getting into the mid 40s. It's not merely been support draining away from the Tories.
Success breeds confidence breeds more success. The opposite of the spiral Labour fell into during the first half of 2021. The fact that SKS kept buggering on and hauled that gap back before Paterson or Partygate happened was a good tell that there's something of the Knight about him.
As for post-VONC Boris, if he tries to squat, don't those who voted against him just form their own block in Parliament until sense reigns again? A PM's mandate is being continually tested in a way that a US President's isn't. Ugly, sure, but it may come to that. A defeated Boris may well gnaw his limbs off and them claim he can't move.
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Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
I have just read the rules. They say a leader who resigns cannot stand again. Boris will not resign even if he loses a VONC, he is as stubborn as Corbyn and Trump and will use every trick possible to keep the leadership until no alternative
Do they?
"Background information
A leadership contest can be triggered in two ways:
If 15% of Conservative MPs write to the Chairman of the 1922 Committee saying they no longer have confidence in the leader of the Conservative Party, orif the current leader resigns.
A leader losing the confidence of the Parliamentary party is not allowed to participate in the resulting leadership election."
If that is correct, then it *is* on the face of it still possible to do a Major, but conversely if bj is vonced he is out and can't stand again, no requirement for him to resign
That is not the actual party constitution, the assumption made being a party leader would automatically resign on losing a VONC. Boris loyalists are suggesting tonight he would not.
It is is the resignation in the party rules which prevent the re-nomination, not the loss of a VONC
Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
One thing that does puzzle me - notwithstanding this, because as I explained the process seems to be 'you resign if you lose a confidence vote, and leaders who resign can't now stand again' - is where the rules on a VONC are actually set out. Are they in the proceedings of the 1922 Committee or something? Because they're not in the party Constitution and I can't find them written down anywhere in an official Conservative source. Everyone just seems to know what they are.
Not just a theoretical point, I'm teaching about this in a week or so!
Any guidance gratefully received.
I've asked Lord Hague for his papers, he wrote the original rules, and one of his staffers says the rules say losing a VONC prevents you standing again.
Yes, but are they just in Hague's private papers? I mean - surely they should be written down elsewhere, somewhere official?
Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
I have just read the rules. They say a leader who resigns cannot stand again. Boris will not resign even if he loses a VONC, he is as stubborn as Corbyn and Trump and will use every trick possible to keep the leadership until no alternative
You are simply a disgrace to the conservative party
You will be suggesting he storming 1922 next - whoops you have
Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
I have just read the rules. They say a leader who resigns cannot stand again. Boris will not resign even if he loses a VONC, he is as stubborn as Corbyn and Trump and will use every trick possible to keep the leadership until no alternative
You are simply a disgrace to the conservative party
You will be suggesting he storming 1922 next - whoops you have
Were a Conservative leader to lose the vote, they would have to resign and a leadership election would be triggered. The resigning leader can’t stand in that election. The winner would become the new leader of the Conservative party and, as they are currently in government, also Prime Minister of the UK.
I have just read the rules. They say a leader who resigns cannot stand again. Boris will not resign even if he loses a VONC, he is as stubborn as Corbyn and Trump and will use every trick possible to keep the leadership until no alternative
I suspect that you are right. Johnson is without grace or dignity, and may well refuse to resign if Vote goes for no confidence.
He would be out though very quickly in the ballot of MPs though. They aren't crazy.
Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
One thing that does puzzle me - notwithstanding this, because as I explained the process seems to be 'you resign if you lose a confidence vote, and leaders who resign can't now stand again' - is where the rules on a VONC are actually set out. Are they in the proceedings of the 1922 Committee or something? Because they're not in the party Constitution and I can't find them written down anywhere in an official Conservative source. Everyone just seems to know what they are.
Not just a theoretical point, I'm teaching about this in a week or so!
Any guidance gratefully received.
I've asked Lord Hague for his papers, he wrote the original rules, and one of his staffers says the rules say losing a VONC prevents you standing again.
Yes, but are they just in Hague's private papers? I mean - surely they should be written down elsewhere, somewhere official?
Somewhere official.
But where? That's what I'm trying to get to. Does the 1922 Committee have it minuted that that's the procedure or something?
Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
One thing that does puzzle me - notwithstanding this, because as I explained the process seems to be 'you resign if you lose a confidence vote, and leaders who resign can't now stand again' - is where the rules on a VONC are actually set out. Are they in the proceedings of the 1922 Committee or something? Because they're not in the party Constitution and I can't find them written down anywhere in an official Conservative source. Everyone just seems to know what they are.
Not just a theoretical point, I'm teaching about this in a week or so!
Any guidance gratefully received.
I've asked Lord Hague for his papers, he wrote the original rules, and one of his staffers says the rules say losing a VONC prevents you standing again.
Yes, but are they just in Hague's private papers? I mean - surely they should be written down elsewhere, somewhere official?
Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
One thing that does puzzle me - notwithstanding this, because as I explained the process seems to be 'you resign if you lose a confidence vote, and leaders who resign can't now stand again' - is where the rules on a VONC are actually set out. Are they in the proceedings of the 1922 Committee or something? Because they're not in the party Constitution and I can't find them written down anywhere in an official Conservative source. Everyone just seems to know what they are.
Not just a theoretical point, I'm teaching about this in a week or so!
Any guidance gratefully received.
I've asked Lord Hague for his papers, he wrote the original rules, and one of his staffers says the rules say losing a VONC prevents you standing again.
Yes, but are they just in Hague's private papers? I mean - surely they should be written down elsewhere, somewhere official?
Somewhere official.
But where? That's what I'm trying to get to. Does the 1922 Committee have it minuted that that's the procedure or something?
1922 rules, it is in a document for the Chair of the 1922 on how to conduct VOCs and leadership election.
There's a section on eligibility.
One ineligibility is having lost a VOC that trigger the latest leadership contest.
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Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
One thing that does puzzle me - notwithstanding this, because as I explained the process seems to be 'you resign if you lose a confidence vote, and leaders who resign can't now stand again' - is where the rules on a VONC are actually set out. Are they in the proceedings of the 1922 Committee or something? Because they're not in the party Constitution and I can't find them written down anywhere in an official Conservative source. Everyone just seems to know what they are.
Not just a theoretical point, I'm teaching about this in a week or so!
Any guidance gratefully received.
I've asked Lord Hague for his papers, he wrote the original rules, and one of his staffers says the rules say losing a VONC prevents you standing again.
Yes, but are they just in Hague's private papers? I mean - surely they should be written down elsewhere, somewhere official?
Somewhere official.
But where? That's what I'm trying to get to. Does the 1922 Committee have it minuted that that's the procedure or something?
1922 rules, it is in a document for the Chair of the 1922 on how to conduct VOCs and leadership election.
There's a section on eligibility.
One ineligibility is having lost a VOC that trigger the latest leadership contest.
Thanks.shame they're not easily available online. 1922 committee literally a hundred years out of date?
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2.3 The change of rules in 1998 The current rules, known as the ‘Hague rules’, were introduced in 1998. They were initially set out in principle in the Conservative document The Fresh Future. 9 This document formed the basis for reforms to the organisation of the Conservative Party following its defeat in the 1997 general election. In July 1997, the then party leader William Hague gave a speech outlining six principles which underpinned his vision for a new direction for the Party. These principles – unity, decentralisation, democracy, involvement, integrity and openness – fed into the publication of the consultation paper Blueprint for Change, 10 presented to the Party’s conference in October 1997. Each principle formed a chapter heading in The Fresh Future policy paper. The leadership rules were set out in the chapter headed “Democracy: giving power to the members” and formed part of thestrategy to make the Party more accessible and responsive to Party members in the constituencies and to increase Party membership. At the time of announcing his intention to resign in 2005, Michael Howard announced that the system of electing a Conservative Party leader was to be reviewed and changed (see section 4 below). However, the changes proposed by the review did not secure enough support to be implemented and the 1998 rules were the basis on which the new leader was elected in 2005
That's a 12% swing from Conservative to Labour on UNS and in marginal seats and with tactical voting, I would think any Conservative MP facing a Labour challenge and with a majority vulnerable to a 15-18% swing will be worried.
The CON-LD swing is a more modest 4.5% but with tactical voting by Labour supporters that could put any Conservative facing a Lib Dem challenger and having a majority vulnerable to a 10% swing could be under threat.
My personal view is Com Res has overcooked the Labour number slightly and undercooked the LD number slightly so a 9-10 point Labour lead with the LDs in low double digits looks more reasonable.
Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
One thing that does puzzle me - notwithstanding this, because as I explained the process seems to be 'you resign if you lose a confidence vote, and leaders who resign can't now stand again' - is where the rules on a VONC are actually set out. Are they in the proceedings of the 1922 Committee or something? Because they're not in the party Constitution and I can't find them written down anywhere in an official Conservative source. Everyone just seems to know what they are.
Not just a theoretical point, I'm teaching about this in a week or so!
Any guidance gratefully received.
I've asked Lord Hague for his papers, he wrote the original rules, and one of his staffers says the rules say losing a VONC prevents you standing again.
Yes, but are they just in Hague's private papers? I mean - surely they should be written down elsewhere, somewhere official?
Somewhere official.
But where? That's what I'm trying to get to. Does the 1922 Committee have it minuted that that's the procedure or something?
1922 rules, it is in a document for the Chair of the 1922 on how to conduct VOCs and leadership election.
There's a section on eligibility.
One ineligibility is having lost a VOC that trigger the latest leadership contest.
The party constitution applies that ineligibility if a party leader resigns yes. Boris it seems may not resign even if he loses a VONC however.
The future of the party and the nation could therefore now depend on the filing system of Lord Hague and the chair of the 1922 cttee. They would need a legible record from 1998 saying clearly that a Tory party leader who loses a VONC is automatically ineligible from standing again in a leadership election
Slightly puzzled by the use of the Lab/LD/Grn aggregate but not including the SNP or PC - but then leaving it at 56% of the whole UK so it's de facto understated.
Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
One thing that does puzzle me - notwithstanding this, because as I explained the process seems to be 'you resign if you lose a confidence vote, and leaders who resign can't now stand again' - is where the rules on a VONC are actually set out. Are they in the proceedings of the 1922 Committee or something? Because they're not in the party Constitution and I can't find them written down anywhere in an official Conservative source. Everyone just seems to know what they are.
Not just a theoretical point, I'm teaching about this in a week or so!
Any guidance gratefully received.
I've asked Lord Hague for his papers, he wrote the original rules, and one of his staffers says the rules say losing a VONC prevents you standing again.
Yes, but are they just in Hague's private papers? I mean - surely they should be written down elsewhere, somewhere official?
Somewhere official.
But where? That's what I'm trying to get to. Does the 1922 Committee have it minuted that that's the procedure or something?
1922 rules, it is in a document for the Chair of the 1922 on how to conduct VOCs and leadership election.
There's a section on eligibility.
One ineligibility is having lost a VOC that trigger the latest leadership contest.
The party constitution applies that ineligibility if a party leader resigns yes. Boris it seems may not resign even if he loses a VONC however.
The future of the party and the nation could therefore now depend on the filing system of Lord Hague and the chair of the 1922 cttee. They would need a legible record from 1998 saying clearly that a Tory party leader who loses a VONC is automatically ineligible from standing again in a leadership election
Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
One thing that does puzzle me - notwithstanding this, because as I explained the process seems to be 'you resign if you lose a confidence vote, and leaders who resign can't now stand again' - is where the rules on a VONC are actually set out. Are they in the proceedings of the 1922 Committee or something? Because they're not in the party Constitution and I can't find them written down anywhere in an official Conservative source. Everyone just seems to know what they are.
Not just a theoretical point, I'm teaching about this in a week or so!
Any guidance gratefully received.
I've asked Lord Hague for his papers, he wrote the original rules, and one of his staffers says the rules say losing a VONC prevents you standing again.
Yes, but are they just in Hague's private papers? I mean - surely they should be written down elsewhere, somewhere official?
Somewhere official.
But where? That's what I'm trying to get to. Does the 1922 Committee have it minuted that that's the procedure or something?
1922 rules, it is in a document for the Chair of the 1922 on how to conduct VOCs and leadership election.
There's a section on eligibility.
One ineligibility is having lost a VOC that trigger the latest leadership contest.
The party constitution applies that ineligibility if a party leader resigns yes. Boris it seems may not resign even if he loses a VONC however.
The future of the party and the nation could therefore now depend on the filing system of Lord Hague and the chair of the 1922 cttee. They would need a legible record from 1998 saying clearly that a Tory party leader who loses a VONC is automatically ineligible from standing again in a leadership election
Actually, I think this kite being flown is very suggestive.
Suggestive that Johnson is certain he'll lose the vote and is trying to browbeat MPs into thinking there's no point in holding one.
However, if TSE could track down the source fo the rules in less than an hour, this seems unlikely to cut much ice.
I'm just thinking of Sir Sion Trefor, or John Trevor, the last speaker to be fired before Martin in I think 1695. He refused to turn up for the vote when he was due to be evicted, claiming he was ill. He was hoping that would mean the House couldn't sit. But they just elected a new speaker anyway and carried on.
Similarly, if Johnson decided to sulk Brady would just ignore him and hold a vote anyway, then the House of Commons would vote in his successor.
The Trump option doesn't work here.
Yet. Which is another reason he should not be left in place as PM.
That's a 12% swing from Conservative to Labour on UNS and in marginal seats and with tactical voting, I would think any Conservative MP facing a Labour challenge and with a majority vulnerable to a 15-18% swing will be worried.
The CON-LD swing is a more modest 4.5% but with tactical voting by Labour supporters that could put any Conservative facing a Lib Dem challenger and having a majority vulnerable to a 10% swing could be under threat.
My personal view is Com Res has overcooked the Labour number slightly and undercooked the LD number slightly so a 9-10 point Labour lead with the LDs in low double digits looks more reasonable.
The real jeopardy for the Tories is the likely renaissance of tactical voting. Would be toxic for them even under the gerrymandered new boundaries which give them a ludicrous safety net.
Michael Gove will announce 12 missions tomorrow, actual metrics against which levelling up will be judged. This is the full table from an internal govt document. Includes everything from Living Standards, to digital connectivity, to education, to “pride in place.” https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1488619523699838987/photo/1
Michael Gove will announce 12 missions tomorrow, actual metrics against which levelling up will be judged. This is the full table from an internal govt document. Includes everything from Living Standards, to digital connectivity, to education, to “pride in place.” https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1488619523699838987/photo/1
Levelling Up died when they scrapped HS2E and NPR.
From now on it's empty slogans to hide the lack of meaningful changes or any spending of money.
Michael Gove will announce 12 missions tomorrow, actual metrics against which levelling up will be judged. This is the full table from an internal govt document. Includes everything from Living Standards, to digital connectivity, to education, to “pride in place.” https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1488619523699838987/photo/1
Michael Gove will announce 12 missions tomorrow, actual metrics against which levelling up will be judged. This is the full table from an internal govt document. Includes everything from Living Standards, to digital connectivity, to education, to “pride in place.” https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1488619523699838987/photo/1
What a vacuous document
I see the idea of balkanising England just won't die.
NEW: This is a copy of the foreword to the Levelling Up White paper due tomorrow- written by Michael Gove and Andy Haldane and seen by Newsnight. They say they want to create a country where “by staying local, you can go far.” https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1488616615721807878/photo/1
Seems like the kind of play on words I suspect Gove likes. I also want to see 'By levelling up, we can create new peaks!' in the next document.
And what scandal, listing three super-cities and having Paris come first. 'A new local government body' to monitor local performance and policies is a red flag, like manifestoes promising new government departments - I assume it means localism but controlled by Whitehall. The devolution promise doesn't look good to me, the chaotic nature of it to date, different from place to place, is part of the hold up and confusion.
Michael Gove will announce 12 missions tomorrow, actual metrics against which levelling up will be judged. This is the full table from an internal govt document. Includes everything from Living Standards, to digital connectivity, to education, to “pride in place.” https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1488619523699838987/photo/1
Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
One thing that does puzzle me - notwithstanding this, because as I explained the process seems to be 'you resign if you lose a confidence vote, and leaders who resign can't now stand again' - is where the rules on a VONC are actually set out. Are they in the proceedings of the 1922 Committee or something? Because they're not in the party Constitution and I can't find them written down anywhere in an official Conservative source. Everyone just seems to know what they are.
Not just a theoretical point, I'm teaching about this in a week or so!
Any guidance gratefully received.
I've asked Lord Hague for his papers, he wrote the original rules, and one of his staffers says the rules say losing a VONC prevents you standing again.
Yes, but are they just in Hague's private papers? I mean - surely they should be written down elsewhere, somewhere official?
Somewhere official.
But where? That's what I'm trying to get to. Does the 1922 Committee have it minuted that that's the procedure or something?
1922 rules, it is in a document for the Chair of the 1922 on how to conduct VOCs and leadership election.
There's a section on eligibility.
One ineligibility is having lost a VOC that trigger the latest leadership contest.
The party constitution applies that ineligibility if a party leader resigns yes. Boris it seems may not resign even if he loses a VONC however.
The future of the party and the nation could therefore now depend on the filing system of Lord Hague and the chair of the 1922 cttee. They would need a legible record from 1998 saying clearly that a Tory party leader who loses a VONC is automatically ineligible from standing again in a leadership election
Oh god, this recalls the agony of Corbyn, who clung on through the minutiae of arcane Labour rules. Students of that dismal period will recall Corbo losing a vonc but refusing to resign: there was nothing in the party’s constitution for such an occurrence because when the rules were drawn up nobody even entertained the idea that a Labour leader would dream of remaining in post while failing to command the confidence of the PLP.
The polling, when combined with the leader ratings, indicates two things, surely. That BJ has become less popular is self-evident. But it also looks now as if, slowly but surely, Starmer is becoming more popular, and fewer ex-Tories are sliding towards Lib Dem/Greens. BJ's demise won't surprise anybody. But the latter will surprise those who wrote Starmer off, and worry quite a few Tories.
Amazing to think that, just six months ago, most distinguished commentators had written Starmer off as a dud. Some (e.g. me, for example) always argued that he should be given at least two years to prove himself (or not). Still two months to go to that milestone.
Michael Gove will announce 12 missions tomorrow, actual metrics against which levelling up will be judged. This is the full table from an internal govt document. Includes everything from Living Standards, to digital connectivity, to education, to “pride in place.” https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1488619523699838987/photo/1
Levelling Up died when they scrapped HS2E and NPR.
From now on it's empty slogans to hide the lack of meaningful changes or any spending of money.
That's a 12% swing from Conservative to Labour on UNS and in marginal seats and with tactical voting, I would think any Conservative MP facing a Labour challenge and with a majority vulnerable to a 15-18% swing will be worried.
The CON-LD swing is a more modest 4.5% but with tactical voting by Labour supporters that could put any Conservative facing a Lib Dem challenger and having a majority vulnerable to a 10% swing could be under threat.
My personal view is Com Res has overcooked the Labour number slightly and undercooked the LD number slightly so a 9-10 point Labour lead with the LDs in low double digits looks more reasonable.
The real jeopardy for the Tories is the likely renaissance of tactical voting. Would be toxic for them even under the gerrymandered new boundaries which give them a ludicrous safety net.
Could work the other way, though.
Gerrymandering is brilliant at optimising your conversion of votes into seats- ideally, you want lots of tight wins, and your opponent to waste lots of votes in ubersafe seats and near-misses.
Downisde is that, if you overestimate your total vote, you end up narrowly losing everywhere...
Michael Gove will announce 12 missions tomorrow, actual metrics against which levelling up will be judged. This is the full table from an internal govt document. Includes everything from Living Standards, to digital connectivity, to education, to “pride in place.” https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1488619523699838987/photo/1
Levelling Up died when they scrapped HS2E and NPR.
From now on it's empty slogans to hide the lack of meaningful changes or any spending of money.
Michael Gove will announce 12 missions tomorrow, actual metrics against which levelling up will be judged. This is the full table from an internal govt document. Includes everything from Living Standards, to digital connectivity, to education, to “pride in place.” https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1488619523699838987/photo/1
What a vacuous document
Just looking at it I can see several prophecies which will easily be fulfilled without any specific effort - simply because of inflation, rise in population, and - possibly - changes in life expectancy as the older cohorts die off (not too sure about that in the poorer areas, actually).
Michael Gove will announce 12 missions tomorrow, actual metrics against which levelling up will be judged. This is the full table from an internal govt document. Includes everything from Living Standards, to digital connectivity, to education, to “pride in place.” https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1488619523699838987/photo/1
Levelling Up died when they scrapped HS2E and NPR.
From now on it's empty slogans to hide the lack of meaningful changes or any spending of money.
One wheeze that Johnson could use if he loses a VONC is to refuse to got to the Palace on the grounds that he is self-isolating.
I hope he does. Her Majesty should not have the degrading experience of speaking to him again.
She should do what George III did to Portland, North and Fox in 1783, demand their seals by courier 'because personal meetings under these circumstances are likely to be painful.'
Hang on, this thread cannot be correct. It is barely days ago that HY told us the polls were swinging back for good old Boris.
We must wait for the full Sue Gray report before making any judgements - she will undoubtedly show the Tories on course to win a majority of 704 at the next election.
“Listening to him made me feel dirty.” Boris Johnson may be safe for now, but emotions still running high among many moderate Tory MPs.. watch out for at least one more call for him to resign tomorrow https://www.ft.com/content/0ded7a34-8560-4188-8137-5b71d4e36ff2
“Listening to him made me feel dirty.” Boris Johnson may be safe for now, but emotions still running high among many moderate Tory MPs.. watch out for at least one more call for him to resign tomorrow https://www.ft.com/content/0ded7a34-8560-4188-8137-5b71d4e36ff2
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Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/conservative-party-leadership-contests
https://fullfact.org/law/conservative-leadership-contest/
Is the MRLP running?
It is tedious having to say this every day
Not just a theoretical point, I'm teaching about this in a week or so!
Any guidance gratefully received.
He’s just tweeted “He's finished. 'Push what is falling'”
So the Institute of Government and Full Fact know better than you.
Call in the tanks.
Just at the ensuing election I believe.
You will be suggesting he storms the 1922 next - whoops you have
Shame on you
Boris Johnson was in the Downing St flat the night of the ‘Abba music’ event being investigated by police for potential Covid rule breaches.
With @HarryYorke1. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/02/01/boris-johnson-downing-street-flat-night-abba-themed-party-held/
Similarly, if Johnson decided to sulk Brady would just ignore him and hold a vote anyway, then the House of Commons would vote in his successor.
The Trump option doesn't work here.
I’m playing the world’s smallest violin for Boris right now.
"Background information
A leadership contest can be triggered in two ways:
If 15% of Conservative MPs write to the Chairman of the 1922 Committee saying they no longer have confidence in the leader of the Conservative Party, orif the current leader resigns.
A leader losing the confidence of the Parliamentary party is not allowed to participate in the resulting leadership election."
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01366/
If that is correct, then it *is* on the face of it still possible to do a Major, but conversely if bj is vonced he is out and can't stand again, no requirement for him to resign
Sue Gray’s investigation into lockdown parties this week revealed several events that had not previously been publicised, including a gathering on 14 January 2021 “on the departure of two No 10 private secretaries”. But the redacted report revealed no further details.
Sources said the event was held in Downing Street in part as a leaving do for a senior policy adviser who is now a top civil servant working in the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport.
Prosecco is alleged to have been drunk by some staff, with Johnson understood to have given a speech thanking the official for their work and staying for around five minutes.
England’s third national Covid lockdown came into force just over a week earlier, on 6 January, with a “stay at home” order banning people from leaving their home except for a handful of reasons including where it was not possible to work from home. The previous month, the prime minister had effectively cancelled Christmas for millions of people amid surging Covid cases.
The revelation places Johnson at another event under investigation by Scotland Yard.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/01/boris-johnson-attended-leaving-do-during-strict-january-lockdown
As I said yesterday the flat 'party' will finish him but better to do it now
"Take a chance on me"?
"SOS"?
As for post-VONC Boris, if he tries to squat, don't those who voted against him just form their own block in Parliament until sense reigns again? A PM's mandate is being continually tested in a way that a US President's isn't. Ugly, sure, but it may come to that. A defeated Boris may well gnaw his limbs off and them claim he can't move.
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It is is the resignation in the party rules which prevent the re-nomination, not the loss of a VONC
I did not suggest, I queried 'would we see'
My response
Making any reference to it at all shames you
It is utterly shocking and contemptible
He would be out though very quickly in the ballot of MPs though. They aren't crazy.
And it won't be Boris.
Sorry hideous url. If you search that for confidence or 15% you draw a blank. I'm inclined to have faith in the HoC library though
There's a section on eligibility.
One ineligibility is having lost a VOC that trigger the latest leadership contest.
Night PB.
The current rules, known as the ‘Hague rules’, were introduced in 1998.
They were initially set out in principle in the Conservative document The
Fresh Future.
9 This document formed the basis for reforms to the
organisation of the Conservative Party following its defeat in the 1997
general election.
In July 1997, the then party leader William Hague gave a speech
outlining six principles which underpinned his vision for a new direction
for the Party. These principles – unity, decentralisation, democracy,
involvement, integrity and openness – fed into the publication of the
consultation paper Blueprint for Change,
10 presented to the Party’s
conference in October 1997.
Each principle formed a chapter heading in The Fresh Future policy
paper. The leadership rules were set out in the chapter headed
“Democracy: giving power to the members” and formed part of thestrategy to make the Party more accessible and responsive to Party
members in the constituencies and to increase Party membership.
At the time of announcing his intention to resign in 2005, Michael
Howard announced that the system of electing a Conservative Party
leader was to be reviewed and changed (see section 4 below). However,
the changes proposed by the review did not secure enough support to
be implemented and the 1998 rules were the basis on which the new
leader was elected in 2005
From the HoC briefing paper
That's a 12% swing from Conservative to Labour on UNS and in marginal seats and with tactical voting, I would think any Conservative MP facing a Labour challenge and with a majority vulnerable to a 15-18% swing will be worried.
The CON-LD swing is a more modest 4.5% but with tactical voting by Labour supporters that could put any Conservative facing a Lib Dem challenger and having a majority vulnerable to a 10% swing could be under threat.
My personal view is Com Res has overcooked the Labour number slightly and undercooked the LD number slightly so a 9-10 point Labour lead with the LDs in low double digits looks more reasonable.
The future of the party and the nation could therefore now depend on the filing system of Lord Hague and the chair of the 1922 cttee. They would need a legible record from 1998 saying clearly that a Tory party leader who loses a VONC is automatically ineligible from standing again in a leadership election
They involved leaving events for No10 figures who are now
- a senior diplomat in US
- a senior figure in Navy
- a senior Culture Dep official
Suggestive that Johnson is certain he'll lose the vote and is trying to browbeat MPs into thinking there's no point in holding one.
However, if TSE could track down the source fo the rules in less than an hour, this seems unlikely to cut much ice.
Which is another reason he should not be left in place as PM.
From now on it's empty slogans to hide the lack of meaningful changes or any spending of money.
And what scandal, listing three super-cities and having Paris come first. 'A new local government body' to monitor local performance and policies is a red flag, like manifestoes promising new government departments - I assume it means localism but controlled by Whitehall. The devolution promise doesn't look good to me, the chaotic nature of it to date, different from place to place, is part of the hold up and confusion.
It’s woefully unambitious.
Boris Corbyn truly is the heir to the original.
Amazing to think that, just six months ago, most distinguished commentators had written Starmer off as a dud. Some (e.g. me, for example) always argued that he should be given at least two years to prove himself (or not). Still two months to go to that milestone.
Gerrymandering is brilliant at optimising your conversion of votes into seats- ideally, you want lots of tight wins, and your opponent to waste lots of votes in ubersafe seats and near-misses.
Downisde is that, if you overestimate your total vote, you end up narrowly losing everywhere...
She should do what George III did to Portland, North and Fox in 1783, demand their seals by courier 'because personal meetings under these circumstances are likely to be painful.'
We must wait for the full Sue Gray report before making any judgements - she will undoubtedly show the Tories on course to win a majority of 704 at the next election.