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Re: Like Stalin and Superman, Starmer is the man of steel – politicalbetting.com
Since we are all a bit grumpy tonight, some news that will bring unalloyed joy, and not upset anybody on this forum...
@EllenAMilligan
Scoop: The UK has signaled to the EU that it's open to accept the dynamic alignment of rules on agrifood products + supervision of the ECJ over the SPS deal it wants to negotiate. Big shift in UK position.
https://x.com/EllenAMilligan/status/1911821425520062592
@EllenAMilligan
Scoop: The UK has signaled to the EU that it's open to accept the dynamic alignment of rules on agrifood products + supervision of the ECJ over the SPS deal it wants to negotiate. Big shift in UK position.
https://x.com/EllenAMilligan/status/1911821425520062592

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Re: Like Stalin and Superman, Starmer is the man of steel – politicalbetting.com
"What do you call a hen looking at a lettuce?"Was Liz Truss always this mad and hid it to climb the greasy poll or was it encounter with the "deep state"* that caused it?It's PTSD.
* she never shuts up about it these days and appears to be basically include everything.
The shortest serving PM, removed by her own party has had an impact.
I bet she gets triggered when she orders a salad and sees a lettuce.
"Chicken sees-a salad."
My coat, thank you ..
Re: Like Stalin and Superman, Starmer is the man of steel – politicalbetting.com
aI am seeing 3 different specialists for 3 issues. And more new diagnostic interventions. When the first doctor who saw me said they would "throw the book at me" I never realised he meant it to this extent. 😨You've all enjoyed @Leon's photos of his drinks occasionally accompanied by food in various exotic locations. And @IanB2's well-travelled dog.Thoughts etc….
I now bring you the anti-photo: dinner at 5:15 in a north-western hospital while staring at the rain and police van.
Those who provide the dinner and the endless tea and biscuits at regular intervals plus lunch and breakfast are relentlessly and charmingly cheerful and friendly. The doctors and nurses have been equally solicitous, which has taken a little of the edge off their remarks which both suggest something potentially very serious which must be tested for and explored while also not actually telling you the worst. It's an odd experience going in for X to be told that the real problems are likely Y and Z. It allows you to be hopeful and scared at the same time.
At any event they have been very efficient so far and last night's madwoman has disappeared.
I knew I shouldn't have been so gleeful at the end of my contract. I was skipping around merrily on Saturday in glorious sunshine. Now I'm facing God knows what.
"Uomo propone. Dio dispone"
That'll learn me. Again.
The food looks like someone tried. I know - but they seem to have tried.
There is, however, no dog for scale. How could you?
Are you seeing the same doctors? Or is it a new chap looking at the chart, each time?
The good news is that if there is something seriously wrong, hopefully, it will have been caught in time. Unless it's too late, of course. But I am going to firmly tell that thought to take a hike because I'd like to get some sleep tonight.
Re: Like Stalin and Superman, Starmer is the man of steel – politicalbetting.com
You've all enjoyed @Leon's photos of his drinks occasionally accompanied by food in various exotic locations. And @IanB2's well-travelled dog.
I now bring you the anti-photo: dinner at 5:15 in a north-western hospital while staring at the rain and police van.

Those who provide the dinner and the endless tea and biscuits at regular intervals plus lunch and breakfast are relentlessly and charmingly cheerful and friendly. The doctors and nurses have been equally solicitous, which has taken a little of the edge off their remarks which both suggest something potentially very serious which must be tested for and explored while also not actually telling you the worst. It's an odd experience going in for X to be told that the real problems are likely Y and Z. It allows you to be hopeful and scared at the same time.
At any event they have been very efficient so far and last night's madwoman has disappeared.
I knew I shouldn't have been so gleeful at the end of my contract. I was skipping around merrily on Saturday in glorious sunshine. Now I'm facing God knows what.
"Uomo propone. Dio dispone"
That'll learn me. Again.
I now bring you the anti-photo: dinner at 5:15 in a north-western hospital while staring at the rain and police van.

Those who provide the dinner and the endless tea and biscuits at regular intervals plus lunch and breakfast are relentlessly and charmingly cheerful and friendly. The doctors and nurses have been equally solicitous, which has taken a little of the edge off their remarks which both suggest something potentially very serious which must be tested for and explored while also not actually telling you the worst. It's an odd experience going in for X to be told that the real problems are likely Y and Z. It allows you to be hopeful and scared at the same time.
At any event they have been very efficient so far and last night's madwoman has disappeared.
I knew I shouldn't have been so gleeful at the end of my contract. I was skipping around merrily on Saturday in glorious sunshine. Now I'm facing God knows what.
"Uomo propone. Dio dispone"
That'll learn me. Again.

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Re: Like Stalin and Superman, Starmer is the man of steel – politicalbetting.com
We live in a society that locks up black and brown people more often than white people. And a society that has the courage to recognise that and seek to do something about it. We should be proud of it.Does habeus corpus have any relevance in a society which literally seeks to imprison white people more often than black and brown people, on the basis of their skin colour? No. It doesn’tOH! I see.Who has Bukele sent abroad for comitting no crime?What, being sent to a foreign prison at the whim of an erratic PM having committed no crime and having never been convicted of anything?He doesn't make my skin crawl whatsoever.It’s the inevitable endpoint of woke leftism. The people will voluntarily elect right wing strongmenHe makes the skin crawl of any right thinking person anywhere. Oh America, what the hell have you done?Bill KristolA reporter asks Bukele if Kilmar Ábrego García will be returned to the US.Which means, if the US government doesn't contradict this, that the Trump administration has taken to itself the power to disappear people, innocent or guilty.
"How can I return a criminal to the US? Smuggle a terrorist in?," Bukele replies.
He then calls the question "absurd" and says he won't release Ábrego García because he isn't fond of releasing people from his prisons.
"The question is preposterous," Bukele says. "I don't have the power to return him to the United States."
Number 3 just happened.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/bukele-abrego-garcia-and-red-lines
...But if it’s number 3?
Let us speak plainly: Nayib Bukele is a minor strongman who will do whatever Donald Trump demands of him. If Trump wants Abrego Garcia in the United States, then Bukele will return him. By the same token, if Bukele understands that Trump does not want Abrego Garcia returned, then he will keep the man.
Bukele has no interests in this game other than pleasing his political patron. His exercise of Salvadoran “sovereignty” can only be read as an expression of Donald Trump’s will.
Anyone who asserts otherwise is either a villain or a fool.
So if Bukele affirmatively refuses to repatriate Abrego Garcia, it will mean that Trump has told him not to.
At which point the Supreme Court will face a choice.
Surrender or escalation?..
@BillKristol
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Watching Trump and Bukele in the Oval Office just now made me feel physically ill.
The exact same thing will happen in the UK if we don’t reverse course on multiple crucial issues. Firstly, migration
How many times do the centrist dads need to be told this?
I think most would quite like a bit of the Bukele approach within the British justice system, rather than it being populated with people who think a 'by no means bleeding-heart liberal' view is that people from ethnic and religious minorities should serve lower sentences for the same severity of crime.
Absolutely fucking not. And if a lefty PM tried to do that to someone like you, I'd be out on the streets fighting your cause even if you would never return the favour.
(Your last bit is a blatant inverted lie. The purpose of the guidance was to try and mitigate the issue of minorities getting longer sentences for the same crimes).
"No crime" here is a bit of a trap by the Right as it is quite possible that the individual concerned has committed a crime. However Bukele and Trump are between them imprisoning a person who is not subject to a prison sentence.
Habeas Corpus is still a law in this country. Doubtless you'd see it repealed as a bleeding-heart woke lefty inconvenience.

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Re: Like Stalin and Superman, Starmer is the man of steel – politicalbetting.com
The rule of law is a funny thing. So inconvenient at times.
But - trust me - you'd miss it if it was gone.
But - trust me - you'd miss it if it was gone.

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Re: Like Stalin and Superman, Starmer is the man of steel – politicalbetting.com
What, being sent to a foreign prison at the whim of an erratic PM having committed no crime and having never been convicted of anything?He doesn't make my skin crawl whatsoever.It’s the inevitable endpoint of woke leftism. The people will voluntarily elect right wing strongmenHe makes the skin crawl of any right thinking person anywhere. Oh America, what the hell have you done?Bill KristolA reporter asks Bukele if Kilmar Ábrego García will be returned to the US.Which means, if the US government doesn't contradict this, that the Trump administration has taken to itself the power to disappear people, innocent or guilty.
"How can I return a criminal to the US? Smuggle a terrorist in?," Bukele replies.
He then calls the question "absurd" and says he won't release Ábrego García because he isn't fond of releasing people from his prisons.
"The question is preposterous," Bukele says. "I don't have the power to return him to the United States."
Number 3 just happened.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/bukele-abrego-garcia-and-red-lines
...But if it’s number 3?
Let us speak plainly: Nayib Bukele is a minor strongman who will do whatever Donald Trump demands of him. If Trump wants Abrego Garcia in the United States, then Bukele will return him. By the same token, if Bukele understands that Trump does not want Abrego Garcia returned, then he will keep the man.
Bukele has no interests in this game other than pleasing his political patron. His exercise of Salvadoran “sovereignty” can only be read as an expression of Donald Trump’s will.
Anyone who asserts otherwise is either a villain or a fool.
So if Bukele affirmatively refuses to repatriate Abrego Garcia, it will mean that Trump has told him not to.
At which point the Supreme Court will face a choice.
Surrender or escalation?..
@BillKristol
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13m
Watching Trump and Bukele in the Oval Office just now made me feel physically ill.
The exact same thing will happen in the UK if we don’t reverse course on multiple crucial issues. Firstly, migration
How many times do the centrist dads need to be told this?
I think most would quite like a bit of the Bukele approach within the British justice system, rather than it being populated with people who think a 'by no means bleeding-heart liberal' view is that people from ethnic and religious minorities should serve lower sentences for the same severity of crime.
Absolutely fucking not. And if a lefty PM tried to do that to someone like you, I'd be out on the streets fighting your cause even if you would never return the favour.
(Your last bit is a blatant inverted lie. The purpose of the guidance was to try and mitigate the issue of minorities getting longer sentences for the same crimes).

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Re: Like Stalin and Superman, Starmer is the man of steel – politicalbetting.com
It reminds me of the crap you hear from abusers: "look what you made me do." Its pathetic then and its pathetic when you say it. Those who voted for Trump are responsible for their actions and the consequences of their action. Attempting to blame others is, well, pathetic.It’s the inevitable endpoint of woke leftism. The people will voluntarily elect right wing strongmenHe makes the skin crawl of any right thinking person anywhere. Oh America, what the hell have you done?Bill KristolA reporter asks Bukele if Kilmar Ábrego García will be returned to the US.Which means, if the US government doesn't contradict this, that the Trump administration has taken to itself the power to disappear people, innocent or guilty.
"How can I return a criminal to the US? Smuggle a terrorist in?," Bukele replies.
He then calls the question "absurd" and says he won't release Ábrego García because he isn't fond of releasing people from his prisons.
"The question is preposterous," Bukele says. "I don't have the power to return him to the United States."
Number 3 just happened.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/bukele-abrego-garcia-and-red-lines
...But if it’s number 3?
Let us speak plainly: Nayib Bukele is a minor strongman who will do whatever Donald Trump demands of him. If Trump wants Abrego Garcia in the United States, then Bukele will return him. By the same token, if Bukele understands that Trump does not want Abrego Garcia returned, then he will keep the man.
Bukele has no interests in this game other than pleasing his political patron. His exercise of Salvadoran “sovereignty” can only be read as an expression of Donald Trump’s will.
Anyone who asserts otherwise is either a villain or a fool.
So if Bukele affirmatively refuses to repatriate Abrego Garcia, it will mean that Trump has told him not to.
At which point the Supreme Court will face a choice.
Surrender or escalation?..
@BillKristol
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13m
Watching Trump and Bukele in the Oval Office just now made me feel physically ill.
The exact same thing will happen in the UK if we don’t reverse course on multiple crucial issues. Firstly, migration
How many times do the centrist dads need to be told this?

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Re: Like Stalin and Superman, Starmer is the man of steel – politicalbetting.com
30% of Lib Dems want to know if the steel is vegan before forming a view.I can assure you that molten steel contains no animal or animal-derived products. At least not for long.

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Re: Like Stalin and Superman, Starmer is the man of steel – politicalbetting.com
It’s just occurred to me that polls should have a Don’t Care option, as well as Don’t Know. Coz I really don’t fucking care what happens to Scunthorpe steelRich Camden dwelling globalist jet setting citizen of nowhere doesn't care about Scunthorpe steel workers non shock!
Britain is so conprehensivelt fucked in so many near-irreversible ways this is like worrying about drizzle during a hurricane

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