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Re: Life after Starmer – politicalbetting.com
It does seem rather fitting that nobody gets sacked for thinking it was OK to store secret highly sensitive data in one massive excel spreadsheet and pass it around on the email resulting in a £7bn bill, but a bloke allegedly said a naughty word 10 years ago in a pub and his feet doesn't touch the floor as they are booted out.
Re: Life after Starmer – politicalbetting.com
Horrible to be so pessimistic but I feel there's a dearth of talent everywhere.
Good morning, everybody.
Good morning, everybody.
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Re: Life after Starmer – politicalbetting.com
They can't even blame the Tories on inflation, the previous government left office with inflation down to 2% and generally falling/stable. This is all on Labour and their idiotic tax/spending policies. There's no new external shocks, no COVID, the wars in Ukraine/Israel have already been factored in, Trump's tariffs should make UK prices lower given export diversion by China and other affected countries.
If ever we needed evidence that Labour haven't got a clue how to run the economy this is it. In fairly benign conditions, with no substantial external factors they've let inflation go up from 2.2% when they took over in July to 3.6% last month and still rising. They've caused this, not global conditions, not the previous government, they did. The Tories need to absolutely destroy them on inflation, they actually did the hard work and got inflation back down to acceptable levels, Labour have completely thrown that away.
If ever we needed evidence that Labour haven't got a clue how to run the economy this is it. In fairly benign conditions, with no substantial external factors they've let inflation go up from 2.2% when they took over in July to 3.6% last month and still rising. They've caused this, not global conditions, not the previous government, they did. The Tories need to absolutely destroy them on inflation, they actually did the hard work and got inflation back down to acceptable levels, Labour have completely thrown that away.
MaxPB
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Re: Rhetoric meets reality. What will Reform voters make of this? – politicalbetting.com
Listening to OBR bods, they made interesting point about "wealth taxes". They don't work trying to do all wealth as very difficult to work out people total wealth. But they state, council tax is broken, stamp duty is terrible tax and each increase has lead to reduction in transactions and blocking oldies from downsizing.
They advocate remove business rates, council tax, and stamp duty, replace with a straight tax on property value.
They advocate remove business rates, council tax, and stamp duty, replace with a straight tax on property value.
Re: Rhetoric meets reality. What will Reform voters make of this? – politicalbetting.com
No matter one’s views on this it is absolutely breathtaking that some news organisations think the sacking of the presenter of a cookery show is more important than this story.On a separate note. I always thought it strange that Ben Wallace was so reluctant to throw his hat into the ring for PM post boris, it would I suspect have been approaching a coronation. Perhaps today we finally learned the real reason why.Yes
On X there is speculation this also explains Sunak’s odd choice of election date. The Tories expected the next hearing to lift the injunction…
Re: Rhetoric meets reality. What will Reform voters make of this? – politicalbetting.com
The super injunction story is just astonishing. A terrible, terrible cock up putting many people at risk but none of the media are even allowed to make any reference to it, let alone hold the perpetrators to account? Is this really a free country anymore? These super injunctions need to be stopped.
Lewis Goodall
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I am loath to criticise my former BBC colleagues and I’m aware they weren’t in on the story. But the idea of a TV presenter losing his job being the top story on the website as opposed to Parliament being kept in the dark for two years about the Afghan data leak is risible.
DavidL
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Re: Rhetoric meets reality. What will Reform voters make of this? – politicalbetting.com
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You have no imagination at all.
The Tories did this. They deserve easily as much contempt as LabourOf course he can be worse.
They both have to go. They are the uniparty. Chuck them in the bin of Eternity and let Nigel have a go
He simply cannot be worse. At the very least he is not a traitor
You have no imagination at all.
Nigelb
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Re: Rhetoric meets reality. What will Reform voters make of this? – politicalbetting.com
So why lie about it?These Afghan families are at risk because they worked under the Queen's Colours and not trafficked in small boats with no papers or background details.To be fair to Afghans some of them will have fought with the Western forces against the Taliban so would likely have been killed now the Taliban are back in power there had they stayedThe Telegraph has the full judicial exchange on the Afghans:During that time there was a sinister shift in ministers’ reasoning for keeping the public in the dark. The Government’s lawyers told Mr Justice Chamberlain that it wanted to put an “agreed narrative” in place to explain away the arrivals of large numbers of Afghans – in other words, lie to the public.
Mr Justice Chamberlain
When you are dealing with public expenditure of that magnitude [£7billion]…it's not possible to lose that amount of money down the back of the sofa. It's not secret intelligence programmes - it's putting real people up in real accommodation in the UK without revealing it's happening. There was going to be an announcement made [to Parliament] but which…the word 'cover' is used. The basis of the expenditure of all of this money isn't going to be revealed.
Jude Bunting KC
One of the key issues in the political debate right now is who is telling the truth about the public deficit. This is directly relevant to that debate. And another key issue is immigration. The injunction is stopping informed debate about how to house people coming to this country...That 'agreed narrative' is misleading the public by omission.'
Mr Justice Chamberlain
The statement to Parliament will 'provide cover'. It is a completely unprecedented situation, but we are seeing a witness statement indicating a statement to Parliament to provide 'cover'. It is a very, very striking thing.
Jude Bunting KC
The Government is saying it is going to deliberately mislead the public.
Mr Justice Chamberlain
It is very striking.
Jude Bunting KC
It is corrosive of democracy. It prevents the public being informed about the reason for £6billion of expenditure, at a time when immigration is at the forefront of debate. The courts have enabled the government to put a false narrative in place that would be corrosive.
Mr Justice Chamberlain
How feasible [is it] to spend that amount of money without the facts coming to light? But we are now saying how it was feasible: making a statement that provides cover and agree a narrative which is not a true narrative, or not a full narrative.
Jude Bunting KC
Journalists will be unable to ask questions or report or correct and fill in gaps.
Cathryn McGahey KC
It is acknowledged that the public's ability to know how its money is being spent and parliamentary scrutiny [are being impeded] but on the basis that the injunction is saving lives.
Mr Justice Chamberlain
There has been this further information about how the government is going to provide 'cover', as it's put, for the political consequences of bringing people to the UK by a statement that does not tell the whole truth to Parliament?
Cathryn McGahey KC
It would tell as much of the truth as possible.
Mr Justice Chamberlain
I'm starting to doubt myself - am I going bonkers, because it really is £6billion? [Later confirmed to be £7billion]
Cathryn McGahey KC
It is…Yes it's a very large amount of public money being spent without currently any information to the public.
How very sinister….
If they don't qualify as legitimate refugees with a connection to Britain, then who on earth would qualify?
If they're already in the UK safely why not say "we are granting asylum to people who deserve it" openly and honestly?
As we have with people from Hong Kong, and Ukraine and elsewhere.
The most disturbing part of this story isn't that people were granted asylum, its that the government sought to lie about it and make telling the truth an offence.
Re: Don’t believe the hype – politicalbetting.com
Also Wimbledon, Lord's, Twickenham, and St Andrew'sUNESCO listing puts big restrictions on change and development which makes certain places reluctant to apply.
I seem to recall that Liverpool waterfront lost their UNESCO world heritage status because of development, development that was essential for the economy and people who actually live there rather than for tourists who want to see something unspoiled.
I would imagine it might be tricky to define the areas of Oxford and Cambridge that could be singled out without preventing say an amazing new vax lab being built in an area that works for the university.
boulay
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Re: Don’t believe the hype – politicalbetting.com
Why is the whole masterchef, Greg, John Torode story such huge news? As I don’t watch Masterchef am I missing a huge cultural moment like the first Impressionists exhibition?The Sun front page is “The End of Torode”
isam
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