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Re: Focus on the share of the vote not the lead – politicalbetting.com
It isn't just The Thing We Can't Talk About.The most interesting of the Mandleson/Epstein emails is the one where Mandleson says to Epstein that such a conviction wouldn't have happened in the UK.The Thing We Can’t Talk about was carefully, and deliberately covered up. By the police, social service and politicians to a high level.
I wonder what caused Mandleson to think that?
To the point that people caught in the act by the police were let go without charge.
A guilty pleasure of mine is police reality programmes of the Channel 5 sort. Police Interceptors, Motorway Cops, etc. At the end of the episode they will do a run through of what happened to the various ne'er-do-wells apprehended along the way. More often than not, no further action is taken - even in cases where the evidence is completely clear-cut. It's baffling. (The other aspect to these programmes is the number of instances where you are wondering how these people are in the country at all.)

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Re: Focus on the share of the vote not the lead – politicalbetting.com
I never met him, never moved in exalted circles, the nearest to meeting the famous I’ve come is getting an autograph at a dr who,con.Professor Anthony King was also another one from that era, their accents mesmerised me for some odd reason.
Bob Worcester I remember for his insight on TV talking about polling. The first person to really make me aware of it.
He is a sad loss.
Re: Focus on the share of the vote not the lead – politicalbetting.com
Sacked by Peter Mandelson…As I noted yesterday, fucking hell, imagine being accused of being too self-centred and self-promotion by Peter Mandelson, does Mandy not do self-awareness?
It'd be like me criticising others for being brash and not being modest and self-effacing
Re: Focus on the share of the vote not the lead – politicalbetting.com
Morning PB.
When very young Bob Worcester was one of those "voices of political facts" for me , like John Curttice. The apparently neutrally cheerful voice in in any political article. Also very strongly connected with the idea of MORI, in my memory somewhere. These were the authority bods.
When very young Bob Worcester was one of those "voices of political facts" for me , like John Curttice. The apparently neutrally cheerful voice in in any political article. Also very strongly connected with the idea of MORI, in my memory somewhere. These were the authority bods.
Re: Focus on the share of the vote not the lead – politicalbetting.com
Id missed my MPs musings on Mandy.
https://x.com/labourlewis/status/1965848770060652888?s=19
Clive not a fan
https://x.com/labourlewis/status/1965848770060652888?s=19
Clive not a fan
Re: Focus on the share of the vote not the lead – politicalbetting.com
If the argument is that Mandy was a good fit for Trump cos they both knew Epstein, that is now exactly the reason he should be fired.
Epstein is radioactive. Every picture of Mandy and Trump will be captioned Epstein.
We are getting used to Starmer being useless, but this is next level stupid
Epstein is radioactive. Every picture of Mandy and Trump will be captioned Epstein.
We are getting used to Starmer being useless, but this is next level stupid

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Re: Focus on the share of the vote not the lead – politicalbetting.com
Emily Thornberry withdraws from the deputy leader race.
https://x.com/EmilyThornberry/status/1966033971437080652
https://x.com/EmilyThornberry/status/1966033971437080652
Re: Focus on the share of the vote not the lead – politicalbetting.com
Yes, it does make you wonder if Mandy knew about some famous British paedophiles who swerved prosecution…Yes. Not sure he lasts until the weekend, reading these latest remarksSurely he goes tomorrow. We have a nice little rhythm going now, anger and allegations grow Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Starmer defends on Monday and Wednesday, Thursday a little more shit comes out, Friday gone.Gone by MondayFair comment but it doesn't excuse us keeping Mandelson in officeOoh , ooh I know that one. When Boris Johnson became Foreign Secretary.Where on earth did Labour find Mike Tapp ?Good morning
I was expecting him to say Gary Glitter was our new ambassador to Russia
Last night on the immigration debate on Sky he wore a union jack tie so much a tradition for labour politicians
This morning, again on Sky, he was evasive about Mandelson being asked to attend FO affairs committee and even said everything is out now about Mandelson
I am very much in agreement with Labour mps and others that Mandelson has to go now
Epstein v Trump - cannot control Trump's position
Epstein v Andrew - ostracised by society
Epstein v Mandelson - cannot be moved because it may upset Trump
Since when have we lost our moral compass?
This story is world news and he shames our country as long as he remains in office
I expect this weekends papers will be all over this issue
In my geekiness I watched PMQ’s last night. To see this improved Badenoch performance. She was good - eloquent, stuck to her brief, pressed cleverly - but she’ll have to do a lot more than “good” to have a chance of saving her job
What surprised me was Starmer, and how bad he was. He’s a professional lawyer of high esteem? - he must have prepped for questions about Mandy. But he looked nonplussed, bewildered, even a bit scared
He was so poor it was peculiar. Starmer is not a happy man
Last week Ange, this week Peter Yum Yum, next week who knows but it will take the same pattern as Starmer is useless.
There is just so much in the emails and letters. It is indeed “disturbing”
Eg what the fexk did Mandy mean, of Epstein’s conviction for pedophilia and trafficking, “this is so unfair IT COULD NEVER HAPPEN IN BRITAIN”
Er, what?? Is he saying we protect child rapists? If they are powerful? Or something else? Then what?
How did Mr Integrity think it was a good idea to choose him as our representative in the USA?

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Re: Focus on the share of the vote not the lead – politicalbetting.com
Good discussion on Today in the 6.30 ish business segment re the Merck pull-out from the UK. Highlights were that both guests (one a pharma analyst and the other was Sir Nigel Wilson, Life Sciences Industrial Strategy Implementation Board and is a member of the Science and Innovation Council.NICE makes recommendations on a QALY basis.
Wilson said that he had spoken to Reeves last night at the FT drinks and is certain she understands the problem and has plans. He was remarkably comfortable with how easy it will be to encourage pension funds etc to invest in UK pharma/research by pulling a few levers.
Both were however also adamant that the UK needs to fix its pricing model with pharma companies as it’s going to drive them all away. Apparently we need to get the rebate the gov gets down to single figure % as it’s 23% currently and vastly higher than any other countries. This in itself I guess will cause other problems as it’s money I would assume goes back into the NHS which needs replacing.
The other problem with the high rebate was that a lot of drug companies were not releasing new drugs to the UK because the cost benefit wasn’t worth it for them and so UK patients are missing out.
This needs much more discussion by the likes of the opposition in order to make sure Reeves has to do something to fix it in the autumn budget. Maybe if Mandy quits, as he should, politicians could spend their time in this instead. Boring for us but ultimately better.
If a new product doesn’t hit a suitable threshold for its proposed price then why should patients expect it. Fine to tweak the formula, but I am missing out on the government buying me a new gulfstream and that makes me very angry!
Pharma used to love the PPRS. It allows them to maintain prices on innovative new drugs at the cost of reducing prices on off patent products. They are just taking advantage of a perceived weak government
Re: Focus on the share of the vote not the lead – politicalbetting.com
A really interesting insight into how Starmer has become the first PM actively abused regularly by England fans and how it’s not Epping flag type oiks, which would be an easy lazy explanation.Yet I’ve met people - in the judiciary - who say he WAS goodStarmer went into management, maybe he was never a good trial lawyerGone by MondayFair comment but it doesn't excuse us keeping Mandelson in officeOoh , ooh I know that one. When Boris Johnson became Foreign Secretary.Where on earth did Labour find Mike Tapp ?Good morning
I was expecting him to say Gary Glitter was our new ambassador to Russia
Last night on the immigration debate on Sky he wore a union jack tie so much a tradition for labour politicians
This morning, again on Sky, he was evasive about Mandelson being asked to attend FO affairs committee and even said everything is out now about Mandelson
I am very much in agreement with Labour mps and others that Mandelson has to go now
Epstein v Trump - cannot control Trump's position
Epstein v Andrew - ostracised by society
Epstein v Mandelson - cannot be moved because it may upset Trump
Since when have we lost our moral compass?
This story is world news and he shames our country as long as he remains in office
I expect this weekends papers will be all over this issue
In my geekiness I watched PMQ’s last night. To see this improved Badenoch performance. She was good - eloquent, stuck to her brief, pressed cleverly - but she’ll have to do a lot more than “good” to have a chance of saving her job
What surprised me was Starmer, and how bad he was. He’s a professional lawyer of high esteem? - he must have prepped for questions about Mandy. But he looked nonplussed, bewildered, even a bit scared
Something has happened to him. @Theuniondivvie made this point yesterday - a few years ago there was a different Starmer - fairly affable, articulate, persuasive. Never witty or charming but at least human. Not this sad flustered robot we have now
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/sep/10/england-fans-chants-cast-keir-starmer-as-first-prime-minister-to-become-the-enemy

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