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Re: First poll has Powell leading Phillipson by 17 points – politicalbetting.com
The warning signs were there about Starmers judgement all the way along...They’ve pressed the Broon emergency intervention button.No-one is saying Starmer broke any rules. It is his judgement that is the problem.
‘I think once the record is out, Keir Starmer will be completely exonerated.’
https://x.com/skypoliticshub/status/1967660800895517107?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

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Re: First poll has Powell leading Phillipson by 17 points – politicalbetting.com
They’ve pressed the Broon emergency intervention button.No-one is saying Starmer broke any rules. It is his judgement that is the problem.
‘I think once the record is out, Keir Starmer will be completely exonerated.’
https://x.com/skypoliticshub/status/1967660800895517107?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
Re: First poll has Powell leading Phillipson by 17 points – politicalbetting.com
Your Party gets going:Still think Our Party would have been a better name.
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Re: First poll has Powell leading Phillipson by 17 points – politicalbetting.com
Lol, Starmer is so finishedRemember that Labour were going to end the psychodramas and disasters, and Starmer was a consummate technocrat and brilliant administrator who would bring back competence and restore stability.
And a few of the more gullible even believed them as though a Labour government has ever ended well.

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Re: First poll has Powell leading Phillipson by 17 points – politicalbetting.com
I don't think it helps Starmer that he has no substantial power base or ultra-loyalists within the Labour Party. I recall reading an article mentioning that there is no such thing as "Starmerism" and that in itself is instructive, I think.
He doesn't really believe in anything (he's not even confidently wedded to pragmatism, which Blair and Thatcher both had, aside from their overarching orthodoxies). And that makes it hard to inspire loyalty.
Most other PMs had to build a base of loyal, fellow travellers within their party - look at Thatcher, Blair, Brown, Cameron, Johnson - all good examples of this. Starmer instead inherited a party where the most ambitious figures were desperate to stop losing, and as a result I suspect that a lot of this iron-fisted party management style that people lauded him for was a bit of luck - in that the party was so weary of defeat people just accepted it. Compare this to New Labour, where the same desperation existed but the architects of that project realised they needed more.
This is now coming back to bite him, because now he is politically short of friends, who is there to help him? Who are his loyal lieutenants ready to ride to the rescue? Burnham clearly now sees himself as a rival. Rayner wasn't a "ride or die" ally, often on leadership manoeuvres herself. Streeting also has one eye on the top job. The closest he has is Reeves, who is also utterly discredited - and even for her, he couldn't back her in the Commons as she sobbed next to him. He also simply doesn't have the ace up his sleeve that other PMs had - the underpinning vision, the ideology, the team moving towards a common goal - that saved them and gave them allies through their darker hours.
The Starmer story is one of a man who was parachuted into the top of politics, who got very lucky but who ultimately lacks the skills that make a good political leader.
He doesn't really believe in anything (he's not even confidently wedded to pragmatism, which Blair and Thatcher both had, aside from their overarching orthodoxies). And that makes it hard to inspire loyalty.
Most other PMs had to build a base of loyal, fellow travellers within their party - look at Thatcher, Blair, Brown, Cameron, Johnson - all good examples of this. Starmer instead inherited a party where the most ambitious figures were desperate to stop losing, and as a result I suspect that a lot of this iron-fisted party management style that people lauded him for was a bit of luck - in that the party was so weary of defeat people just accepted it. Compare this to New Labour, where the same desperation existed but the architects of that project realised they needed more.
This is now coming back to bite him, because now he is politically short of friends, who is there to help him? Who are his loyal lieutenants ready to ride to the rescue? Burnham clearly now sees himself as a rival. Rayner wasn't a "ride or die" ally, often on leadership manoeuvres herself. Streeting also has one eye on the top job. The closest he has is Reeves, who is also utterly discredited - and even for her, he couldn't back her in the Commons as she sobbed next to him. He also simply doesn't have the ace up his sleeve that other PMs had - the underpinning vision, the ideology, the team moving towards a common goal - that saved them and gave them allies through their darker hours.
The Starmer story is one of a man who was parachuted into the top of politics, who got very lucky but who ultimately lacks the skills that make a good political leader.
Re: First poll has Powell leading Phillipson by 17 points – politicalbetting.com
My Party (and I'll cry if I want to)Your Party gets going:Still think Our Party would have been a better name.
Today, we advance the process of founding our new party — one that belongs to its members, not to the establishment.
Britain’s political class is united. They pursue war and profit, while our lives get worse. For too long, the rich have set this country’s political agenda. Not any more.
Our party will take the power back.
Achieving this objective requires a mass democratic movement that meets people where they’re at, organises with them to build power in our communities and lays strong foundations to transform our country.
We can do this. But it’ll take all of us.
In the next two weeks, we will kick off the full founding process: opening our membership portal, initiating wide democratic debate and publishing draft versions of our four core founding documents — our Political Statement, Constitution, Rules, and Organisational Strategy. These documents will be drafts in the truest sense, ready to be edited and evolved. Members will be able to comment, suggest changes, and track how each document develops.
Alongside this online process, Your Party will host huge regional deliberative meetings where thousands of members come together to listen to each other, break bread and debate the founding documents face to face. From Norwich to Newcastle, we’ll foster a political culture of healthy discussion and disagreement, enabling thousands to weigh in with their ideas, questions and concerns.
In November, thousands of in-person founding conference delegates will be chosen by lottery to ensure a fair balance of gender, region, and background. These delegates will have a big responsibility – to debate the founding documents, propose amendments and vote on them at the conference. The final decision will be up to all members through an online, secure, one-member-one-vote system.
This process aims to combine the best of different democratic traditions: individual and collective views, in-person deliberation in assemblies, sortition to keep things fair and representative, and direct voting to give every member a final say.
And we want to go further. We know Your Party can - and must - be even bigger. Keep an eye on your inbox to get involved in The People Speak, a massive door knocking campaign to ask people what they want from a new party and inviting them to join in.
Timeline at a glance:
September: Membership opens, first draft documents published and regional assemblies start.
October: Assemblies continue, draft documents revised, online vote on party name.
November: Delegates selected, amendments submitted, founding conference takes place.
In Solidarity,
Your Party
Re: First poll has Powell leading Phillipson by 17 points – politicalbetting.com
I haven't called any of them Nazis, not even "Tommy Robinson" himself.So they're not all Nazis, is what you're saying?They went to a rally organised by a far right racist with multiple convictions for violence and fraud, the speakers were also far right racists, and many of the chants were racist.Give me fucking strength.So is your contention that all 300k who went on the march are Nazis? Do not you see how that kind of rhetoric fuels actual violence. Some idiot might get it in their head that shooting or stabbing these people is "good" because they're "Nazis anyway".
It seems now those baying most this weekend for some kind of flag waving revolution of the hard right up from the streets are now tweeting it is a disgrace that apparently kids today don't know that the Battle of Britain helped beat the erm... checks notes...Nazis.
This is exactly the kind of stupidity that leads to people killing other people for no reason.
So it may well be that not all of the 110 000 or so on the march are far right racists, but they are at the very least willing to be in the company of far right racists.

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Re: First poll has Powell leading Phillipson by 17 points – politicalbetting.com
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Re: First poll has Powell leading Phillipson by 17 points – politicalbetting.com
OMG they can’t even do THISYou can’t fix the problem using the underlying system. It just doesn’t work. You’d think this would have dawned on Labour before now, unless they just assume that it was purely because the Tories were horrible people as to why it wasn’t working before.*
“The first deportation of a Channel migrant under Sir Keir Starmer’s “one in, one out” deal with France was cancelled at the last minute.
The Telegraph understands that one migrant was due to be flown from Heathrow to Paris on an Air France passenger flight on Monday, but the flight was postponed amid protests by charities and threats of legal action.”
It’s beyond surreal. They can’t fly one migrant to Paris, Business Class
*actually, I think that’s precisely the assumption.
Re: First poll has Powell leading Phillipson by 17 points – politicalbetting.com
Didn't Momentum already get kil....oh.Your Party gets going:Has Jezza specified which Sept, Oct and Nov?
Today, we advance the process of founding our new party — one that belongs to its members, not to the establishment.
Britain’s political class is united. They pursue war and profit, while our lives get worse. For too long, the rich have set this country’s political agenda. Not any more.
Our party will take the power back.
Achieving this objective requires a mass democratic movement that meets people where they’re at, organises with them to build power in our communities and lays strong foundations to transform our country.
We can do this. But it’ll take all of us.
In the next two weeks, we will kick off the full founding process: opening our membership portal, initiating wide democratic debate and publishing draft versions of our four core founding documents — our Political Statement, Constitution, Rules, and Organisational Strategy. These documents will be drafts in the truest sense, ready to be edited and evolved. Members will be able to comment, suggest changes, and track how each document develops.
Alongside this online process, Your Party will host huge regional deliberative meetings where thousands of members come together to listen to each other, break bread and debate the founding documents face to face. From Norwich to Newcastle, we’ll foster a political culture of healthy discussion and disagreement, enabling thousands to weigh in with their ideas, questions and concerns.
In November, thousands of in-person founding conference delegates will be chosen by lottery to ensure a fair balance of gender, region, and background. These delegates will have a big responsibility – to debate the founding documents, propose amendments and vote on them at the conference. The final decision will be up to all members through an online, secure, one-member-one-vote system.
This process aims to combine the best of different democratic traditions: individual and collective views, in-person deliberation in assemblies, sortition to keep things fair and representative, and direct voting to give every member a final say.
And we want to go further. We know Your Party can - and must - be even bigger. Keep an eye on your inbox to get involved in The People Speak, a massive door knocking campaign to ask people what they want from a new party and inviting them to join in.
Timeline at a glance:
September: Membership opens, first draft documents published and regional assemblies start.
October: Assemblies continue, draft documents revised, online vote on party name.
November: Delegates selected, amendments submitted, founding conference takes place.
In Solidarity,
Your Party
Snide remark aside, the snails pace will kill off any momentum they may have had. Polanskis nicked it