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Re: What shall we do with the drunken sailor? If you’re Danny Kruger, join them – politicalbetting.com
I hope for the survival of the one nation sensible pragmatic conservative party as a valuable component of our polity.Labour will fancy their chances even more so if the type of Tories defecting to Reform are ex ERG anti gay marriage and anti abortion Tory MPs like Kruger, miles from Cameroons or even Boris' policies in government. Tactical votes could re elect Labour alone against them, even if they need LD confidence and supply in a hung parliament.An occassion we do agree and why I remain a conservative even if I am the only one
Kruger did say though that he had some admiration for Kemi, this is more Kruger taking revenge on the Cameron and Sunak wing of the Tory Party. Though equally the more the likes of Kruger leave the Tory parliamentary party and Tory membership, the easier it is for a moderate like Cleverly to be elected to replace Kemi as Tory leader which would worry Labour more
I do wonder those labour, lib dems and others hoping for the demise of the conservative party are ready for 5 years of Farage and Reform because that is where it will lead
There is a place for it. I hope it can take it. Boris destroyed it in 2019. Cleverly just might be able to restore it.
EDIT I feel the same about a Labour party focused on social justice and improvements to public servcies.
Re: What shall we do with the drunken sailor? If you’re Danny Kruger, join them – politicalbetting.com
JD Vance might have a point about the suppression of free-speech in Europe after all. Bob Vylan has been banned for making an off-colour remark.Why are people confusing free speech with consequence-free speech?
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/sep/15/bob-vylan-gig-in-netherlands-cancelled-after-frontman-makes-comments-about-death-of-charlie-kirk
Re: What shall we do with the drunken sailor? If you’re Danny Kruger, join them – politicalbetting.com
JD Vance might have a point about the suppression of free-speech in Europe after all. Bob Vylan has been banned for making an off-colour remark.Looking forward to Bob Vylan's freedom tour of the USA.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/sep/15/bob-vylan-gig-in-netherlands-cancelled-after-frontman-makes-comments-about-death-of-charlie-kirk

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Re: What shall we do with the drunken sailor? If you’re Danny Kruger, join them – politicalbetting.com
@ShehabKhanDisgusting and wholly unacceptable
🚨 EXCLUSIVE: These are the messages sent by Paul Ovenden, one of Keir Starmer’s most senior Downing Street advisers, where he repeats sexually explicit and offensive comments about Diane Abbott - ultimately leading to his resignation:
https://x.com/ShehabKhan/status/1967590269446193396
More questions for Starmer
Has been live on TV yet ?
Re: What shall we do with the drunken sailor? If you’re Danny Kruger, join them – politicalbetting.com
The media need to stop flogging a dead horse . Mandelson Gate needs to be put out of its misery now .I assume you said the same thing abour Partygate with Johnson
Furthermore, if you had heard the Epstein family's victims interview with Trevor Phillips yesterday about Mandelson, you may not be so quick to want the story burried
Re: What shall we do with the drunken sailor? If you’re Danny Kruger, join them – politicalbetting.com
Labour will fancy their chances even more so if the type of Tories defecting to Reform are ex ERG anti gay marriage and anti abortion Tory MPs like Kruger, miles from Cameroons or even Boris' policies in government. Tactical votes could re elect Labour alone against them, even if they need LD confidence and supply in a hung parliament.An occassion we do agree and why I remain a conservative even if I am the only one
Kruger did say though that he had some admiration for Kemi, this is more Kruger taking revenge on the Cameron and Sunak wing of the Tory Party. Though equally the more the likes of Kruger leave the Tory parliamentary party and Tory membership, the easier it is for a moderate like Cleverly to be elected to replace Kemi as Tory leader which would worry Labour more
I do wonder those labour, lib dems and others hoping for the demise of the conservative party are ready for 5 years of Farage and Reform because that is where it will lead
Re: What shall we do with the drunken sailor? If you’re Danny Kruger, join them – politicalbetting.com
The media need to stop flogging a dead horse . Mandelson Gate needs to be put out of its misery now .It's still twitching. If it turns out that statements on who knew what, when, are... problematic, then that is the classic second stage scandal.
Re: What shall we do with the drunken sailor? If you’re Danny Kruger, join them – politicalbetting.com
"What shall we do with a drunken sailor" is a song by the sailor in question's somewhat-sympathetic girlfriend on the subject of brewer's droop.You know the girlfriend was of the rent by the hour variety
I had no idea about this until it was pointed out to me. It seems now so obvious.

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Re: What shall we do with the drunken sailor? If you’re Danny Kruger, join them – politicalbetting.com
"How Peter Mandelson became a monster
The former ambassador’s world is disintegrating
By Aaron Bastani"
https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2025/09/how-peter-mandelson-became-a-monster
The former ambassador’s world is disintegrating
By Aaron Bastani"
https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2025/09/how-peter-mandelson-became-a-monster

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Re: What shall we do with the drunken sailor? If you’re Danny Kruger, join them – politicalbetting.com
The media need to stop flogging a dead horse . Mandelson Gate needs to be put out of its misery now .

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