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Re: The game’s afoot as Burnham wants to be the new Lord Home – politicalbetting.com
It speaks to the paucity of talent in British politics. Every party is led by the second rate. Backed by the fifth rate.On topic, if the answer is Burnham you asked the wrong question.Though, it does show what a shambles labour are in, and in particular Starmer and Reeves performance over the last 15 months
You look at Thatcher’s cabinets - sure, there were one or two clowns. But a good half of them could have been PM.
Re: The game’s afoot as Burnham wants to be the new Lord Home – politicalbetting.com
To be fair, the Antonine Wall did serve a practical purpose. It wasn't just Temple #57 or Church LookAtMyMegalomania. But you're right, I did forget about it.FPT but, in re Antonini Pii, I must ask: what about this honking great wall on the Forth-Clyde Isthmus, with [edit] forts and (possibly) a monumental temple on the road through?*Over time, I appreciate emperors like Antoninus Pius and Anastasius ever more. No flashy buildings, no military glory, but they governed very competently for decades.Frankly, who wants to do this boring governing thing when you can emote about things you can't actually do anything about? It's deeply unfashionable.The annoying thing is there's lots of boring, low-hanging fruit that could be plucked fairly easily just by tidying up government (and in some cases, commercial) procedures that are simply outdated. For example, changing rules on pursuing e-bikes so they can be followed by drones - that would be a major disaster for phone snatchers. Or reform of the court system to speed it up and make things cheaper, which has been talked about but not delivered. Or a massive clampdown on fraudulent bills by utility companies, which is an absolute scourge affecting hundreds of thousands of people every year.Why shouldn’t people opposed to this shambolic,govt want to see the back of It ? I’m not sure any change of govt to any other party or coalition would improve the country at the moment.I don't think so.Daily Mail - 'Starmer cried: 'You're supposed to be protecting me'. The showdown between PM and key aide that's the talk of Westminster'Backing Powell is starting to look like easy money?
"According to the Whitehall grapevine, it was the moment that growing tensions between the two most senior men in the British Government finally exploded into the open.
'You are supposed to protect me from things like this!' a furious Sir Keir Starmer is said to have bellowed at Morgan McSweeney, the man dubbed The Real Deputy Prime Minister.
'That's exactly what I was trying to do!' Mr McSweeney roared back.
The extraordinary exchange – relayed to The Mail on Sunday by a highly placed source – came after Sir Keir returned to No10 on Wednesday following his Commons mauling over Peter Mandelson's links to paedophile Jeffrey Epstein.
No 10 denies the encounter took place as described – and even tried to deny that chief of staff Mr McSweeney was in the country at the time, before backtracking.
But what is not in question is that the Mandelson scandal has turned into a full-blown political crisis which could lead to the end of Starmer's premiership.
Despairing Labour MPs are looking to Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham for salvation, with Lucy Powell running as his 'proxy' in the deputy leadership election.
Supporters hope Mr Burnham will return to the Commons in a by-election, making him eligible for a leadership bid."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15095781/Starmer-cried-showdown-PM-key-aide-Westminster.html
I think Phillipson will win comfortably and have bet accordingly.
Politically these is little between her and Powell, both being soft left. Phillipson is the better speaker. Here she is at the #TUC last week:
https://www.youtube.com/live/8GRutRRkLc4?si=dygUjELbDJtY65Tc
I note that those cheerleading Powell on here want to bring down the government. I don't think that will be the motivation of Labour members. Neither do I think that is the purpose of Powell!
Quite frankly they can elect either Powell or Phillipson, it won’t change much for them until they start, if they can, delivering real improvements for people in their lives in the country as opposed to relying on MPs and tame pro govt social media accounts telling us how great they are.
You would have thought Starmer, of all people, would be well-placed to do that. And indeed, often he has made encouraging noises, as in abolishing OFWAT and making greater use of magistrates' courts. But so far, limited progress.
*Arthur's Oon [oven]. Sadly demolished. https://falkirklocalhistory.club/around-the-area/castles/arthurs-oon/
Re: The game’s afoot as Burnham wants to be the new Lord Home – politicalbetting.com
Michael Gove on Lucy Powell on Trevor Phillips programme
'Andy Burnham's trained killer and will win the deputy leadership'
The thread answers itself...Is he on drugs ?From the Observer today on yesterday's Robinson/Musk demo:They are also going after the King.
Religion was a recurring theme among the speakers and performers, with the first words said on the PA system praising “the king of kings, lord of lords, Jesus Christ”.
The Met said officers had been “assaulted with kicks and punches. Bottles, flares and other projectiles were thrown”.
Is it just me or do you think the KING should have paid some sort of tribute to Charlie Kirk and his life.
https://x.com/benonwine/status/1966766424942154075
That’s just batshit.

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Re: The game’s afoot as Burnham wants to be the new Lord Home – politicalbetting.com
Social media is a depressing place. Last week the Far Left Palestine loons attacked the cops. This week it’s so called patriots. The demonisation and deification of online right wing grifter, Charlie Kirk, is tedious. Yet among all this drivel. Including here, there are some truly joyous moments. The Fonz catching fish is one of them.He’s finally jumped the trout.
Re: The game’s afoot as Burnham wants to be the new Lord Home – politicalbetting.com
What state is the Labour Party in when Burnham is seen as its saviour. Do the people supporting him not remember his pitiful run at the leadership previously. A campaign which made Kamala Harris’s for the Democratic nomination seem inspired.Exactly. He was in charge of the NHS when the Staffordshire scandal happened. His record on grooming gangs in Manchester is not good either. He got a pitiful number of votes when he last stood and he simply jumps from bandwagon to bandwagon.
I think Labour should persist with Starmer, get through the next locals, and Starmer needs to start grooming the next generation and promoting them.

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Re: The game’s afoot as Burnham wants to be the new Lord Home – politicalbetting.com
Is he on drugs ?From the Observer today on yesterday's Robinson/Musk demo:They are also going after the King.
Religion was a recurring theme among the speakers and performers, with the first words said on the PA system praising “the king of kings, lord of lords, Jesus Christ”.
The Met said officers had been “assaulted with kicks and punches. Bottles, flares and other projectiles were thrown”.
Is it just me or do you think the KING should have paid some sort of tribute to Charlie Kirk and his life.
https://x.com/benonwine/status/1966766424942154075
That’s just batshit.

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Re: The game’s afoot as Burnham wants to be the new Lord Home – politicalbetting.com
Please do not insult people on drugs like that.Is he on drugs ?From the Observer today on yesterday's Robinson/Musk demo:They are also going after the King.
Religion was a recurring theme among the speakers and performers, with the first words said on the PA system praising “the king of kings, lord of lords, Jesus Christ”.
The Met said officers had been “assaulted with kicks and punches. Bottles, flares and other projectiles were thrown”.
Is it just me or do you think the KING should have paid some sort of tribute to Charlie Kirk and his life.
https://x.com/benonwine/status/1966766424942154075
That’s just batshit.
Our local Shouting At Pigeons, vagrant type, who is frequently smoking something from a glass pipe, is frankly an adornment to the community, compared to the rum blossom you have linked to.
Re: The game’s afoot as Burnham wants to be the new Lord Home – politicalbetting.com
Social media is a depressing place. Last week the Far Left Palestine loons attacked the cops. This week it’s so called patriots. The demonisation and deification of online right wing grifter, Charlie Kirk, is tedious. Yet among all this drivel. Including here, there are some truly joyous moments. The Fonz catching fish is one of them.



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Re: The game’s afoot as Burnham wants to be the new Lord Home – politicalbetting.com
Burnham looks like the PM from a future Season of The Crown. Starmer looks like one from The Thick Of It.
Re: The game’s afoot as Burnham wants to be the new Lord Home – politicalbetting.com
Apart from being a faster talker than Starmer (which is pretty much everyone) and not having been in government recently (gives you clean hands, sure, but is otherwise a downside), what exactly is Burnham's appeal?
How would his government be better?
How would his government be better?