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Re: Lucy Powell is now the favourite to win the deputy leader race – politicalbetting.com
Strange how Steve Bannon is allowed to enter the UK to attend the hate rally in London .
Don’t criminal convictions bar you from coming to the UK ?
Of course we know the answer , this spineless government is too afraid to upset Trump .
If the situation had been reversed and someone from the far left with a conviction wanted to visit the US they’d have no chance .
Don’t criminal convictions bar you from coming to the UK ?
Of course we know the answer , this spineless government is too afraid to upset Trump .
If the situation had been reversed and someone from the far left with a conviction wanted to visit the US they’d have no chance .

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Re: Lucy Powell is now the favourite to win the deputy leader race – politicalbetting.com
F1: decided to back Leclerc each way in Azerbaijan at 8.5. Along with the (absent this year) Perez, he's a specialist at the circuit and the Ferrari was very competitive at Monaco. Every chance Leclerc could get pole, and the Ferrari looked pretty impressive in a straight line at Monza.
Unusual for me to make an early bet, but there we are.
Unusual for me to make an early bet, but there we are.
Re: Is Andy Burnham about to become the favourite to succeed Starmer? – politicalbetting.com
Big switcheroo on the exchange betting for Deputy Labour Leader; Powell is 8/11f

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Re: Is Andy Burnham about to become the favourite to succeed Starmer? – politicalbetting.com
"We're all in this together" has to be more than a slogan.Agreed. There doesn't seem to be one.A good question and I cannot see oneGood morningIt was straightforward for Labour to unite around Starmer, the burning desire to return to government after 4 defeats kept everyone (well nearly everyone) pulling in the same direction. But very tricky indeed to keep such a large parliamentary party placated with only so many jobs to go around.
Interesting take on Lucy Powell by Sky
https://news.sky.com/story/why-sacking-lucy-powell-might-come-back-to-haunt-starmer-13428131
Is there a unifying leader hiding in plain sight in there somewhere?
And the nature of the times makes me suspect that there can't be one. A truly great national leader would need to get everyone to accept quite a bit of pain- all of us paying more tax to get less stuff from the state. Accepting that being a NIMBY, or stopping serious contribution to society because you have made your pile just aren't on. Acknowledging that by living in Britain on the 21st century, we've all done pretty well in the lottery of life- maybe not the jackpot, but a solid bonus ball prize. And that comes with responsibilities to other human beings and to the future.
But in the culture we're in, I simply don't think that's possible. We want it all, we want it for us and we want it now. Do the nasty bits to them over there.
I'd love to think that someone is out there to save us. But I don't see how anyone can stand against the torrent of attack all politicians now get.
All political careers end in failure, as someone once said. Inevitable, really, given the politician's psyche. But when every PM fails as rapidly as this, I have to think that it's the pitch at fault, not the batsmen.
Does anyone really think that Burnham, Badenoch, Farage, Polanski or Davey would survive any better, as opposed to placating a different minority slice of the electorate?
Really?
Taxes must rise for everyone, spending must fall for everyone.
No exemptions.
Re: Lucy Powell is now the favourite to win the deputy leader race – politicalbetting.com
I dont think a change of policy on the EU or Israel would do, and Starmers endless reshuffles in the back office are a joke.There are two giant USPs up for grabs and only Starmer can realistically grab both. One is Rejoin the second is showing decisive action in putting a stop to Israel. Both would be massively popular.And neither would address the fundamental challenges this country faces (although I would support both).
The Party Conference would be the time. it would require a massive reset but it's there for the taking
However, where I agree with you is that it might give Starmer the boost in popularity he needs to be able to deliver some of the difficult medicine @Stuartinromford prescribed at the end of the last thread.
I increasingly think Starmer doesn't have the competence to deliver real solutions unfortunately.
The problem is that Starmer has been tested and found wanting. The wooden, directionless waffling Starmer is the real thing.
He needs to be replaced, the question is when, how and by whom. Rayner going has created a vacuum.

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Re: Lucy Powell is now the favourite to win the deputy leader race – politicalbetting.com
There are two giant USPs up for grabs and only Starmer can realistically grab both. One is Rejoin the second is showing decisive action in putting a stop to Israel. Both would be massively popular.
The Party Conference would be the time. it would require a massive reset but it's there for the taking
The Party Conference would be the time. it would require a massive reset but it's there for the taking
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Re: Is Andy Burnham about to become the favourite to succeed Starmer? – politicalbetting.com
That's not true.AstraZeneca pauses £200m investment in Cambridge research siteLife sciences are in trouble everywhere thanks to Trump. ~50% of global pharma revenue comes from US.
Decision means none of drugmaker’s much-trumpeted £650m UK investment package is currently proceeding
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/sep/12/astrazeneca-pauses-200m-investment-in-cambridge-research-site
Last one out please remember to turn the lights off...
Life sciences are booming in China. And the US pharma is starting to outsource a significant portion of its research there.
In the last five years or so China has gone from copying the west's biological research (which no doubt they still do) to producing their own original stuff.
Another threat to one of the UK's remaining significant industries.

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Re: Lucy Powell is now the favourite to win the deputy leader race – politicalbetting.com
Hypothetically if someone had been trying move the betfair odds to change the narrative how much would they have had to spend?Just a few thousand - only 7500 matched on Powell, and that double counts (backer and layers stake)

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Re: Is Andy Burnham about to become the favourite to succeed Starmer? – politicalbetting.com
Agreed. There doesn't seem to be one.A good question and I cannot see oneGood morningIt was straightforward for Labour to unite around Starmer, the burning desire to return to government after 4 defeats kept everyone (well nearly everyone) pulling in the same direction. But very tricky indeed to keep such a large parliamentary party placated with only so many jobs to go around.
Interesting take on Lucy Powell by Sky
https://news.sky.com/story/why-sacking-lucy-powell-might-come-back-to-haunt-starmer-13428131
Is there a unifying leader hiding in plain sight in there somewhere?
And the nature of the times makes me suspect that there can't be one. A truly great national leader would need to get everyone to accept quite a bit of pain- all of us paying more tax to get less stuff from the state. Accepting that being a NIMBY, or stopping serious contribution to society because you have made your pile just aren't on. Acknowledging that by living in Britain on the 21st century, we've all done pretty well in the lottery of life- maybe not the jackpot, but a solid bonus ball prize. And that comes with responsibilities to other human beings and to the future.
But in the culture we're in, I simply don't think that's possible. We want it all, we want it for us and we want it now. Do the nasty bits to them over there.
I'd love to think that someone is out there to save us. But I don't see how anyone can stand against the torrent of attack all politicians now get.
All political careers end in failure, as someone once said. Inevitable, really, given the politician's psyche. But when every PM fails as rapidly as this, I have to think that it's the pitch at fault, not the batsmen.
Does anyone really think that Burnham, Badenoch, Farage, Polanski or Davey would survive any better, as opposed to placating a different minority slice of the electorate?
Really?
Re: Lucy Powell is now the favourite to win the deputy leader race – politicalbetting.com
Might be a poll, or it might be perception that she's the Burnhamite candidate.