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Re: The Gorton & Denton might become the most (in)famous by-election in history – politicalbetting.com
I wonder if the best way of keeping control of the party is to run the country really well having chosen a top team of great talent, to have a plan and communicate it brilliantly to the country and to your own MPs so that they know their best chance of being re-elected is to keep you in place? Is it worth at least a try?Not to the clique.Patrick MaguireCrazy . Just let the guy stand which is the least worst option .
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Several sources telling me anti-Burnham camp have the numbers...
Losing control of the Party is the worst option and the only one that counts to them.
SKS will be replaced by a fellow traveller in 2026 my money on Mahmood beating Streeting and Rayner
Re: This is a courageous move by the NEC – politicalbetting.com
I would like to thank the NEC for getting me out of a huge betting hole.
Re: The Gorton & Denton might become the most (in)famous by-election in history – politicalbetting.com
I got 11/2, again a price I was happy with.Labour's risk now is that if both Green and Reform put up high profile candidates, despite their starting with a massive majority in the seat they could be written out of the central story of this by-electionGreat news for us Greens.
Hope Zack stands now and wins
6/1 was a great price
I think if Zack stands he wins.
Taz
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Re: The Gorton & Denton might become the most (in)famous by-election in history – politicalbetting.com
Latest poll had Burnham as the only Lab politician who would beat Reform at the next GE
Mexican Pete says he can F**k off
Paid up tosser
Mexican Pete says he can F**k off
Paid up tosser
Re: The Gorton & Denton might become the most (in)famous by-election in history – politicalbetting.com
Andy Burnham is obviously intending to stir shit, and Labour don’t need the media distraction.It's a stitch up but has worsened SKS's position - especially when the Green's win.
On balance, although this is an awful stitch up, I think it might be right decision.
And I suspect they will - few people are going to go out and vote for Labour's second best candidate...
I expect labour to lose this by election now
Re: The Gorton & Denton might become the most (in)famous by-election in history – politicalbetting.com
Andy Burnham is obviously intending to stir shit, and Labour don’t need the media distraction.It's a stitch up but has worsened SKS's position - especially when the Green's win.
On balance, although this is an awful stitch up, I think it might be right decision.
And I suspect they will - few people are going to go out and vote for Labour's second best candidate...
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Re: The Gorton & Denton might become the most (in)famous by-election in history – politicalbetting.com
Possibly the last one ever, though.Boris did win the Tories a majority in 2019 they wouldn't have got otherwiseWhy would they let him run, I don't get it.Because Starmer is disliked by lots of people, and those people have decided in various (probably contradictory) ways that Andy will give them the things that Keir has denied them.
On the merits he's already got a job as mayor so do your job.
On the politics it's constant Labour division process stories if he wins and rancour if he loses because he'll blame the other factions.
Just say no. Why would they say yes?
There's also a bit of the argument for Boris in 2019; Andy/Boris going to keep causing trouble until he gets what he wants, so if we give it to him maybe we will get five minutes peace and quiet.
The wider (because it's a pattern) question is why we value really wanting the job (to the extent of causing trouble for the party) above likelihood to do the job well? Gordon, Boris, Liz, now Andy ..
And given BoJo's role in creating the problems he promised to solve, he no more deserves our gratitude than Howard Kirk did.
Re: The Gorton & Denton might become the most (in)famous by-election in history – politicalbetting.com
Why would they let him run, I don't get it.
On the merits he's already got a job as mayor so do your job.
On the politics it's constant Labour division process stories if he wins and rancour if he loses because he'll blame the other factions.
Just say no. Why would they say yes?
On the merits he's already got a job as mayor so do your job.
On the politics it's constant Labour division process stories if he wins and rancour if he loses because he'll blame the other factions.
Just say no. Why would they say yes?
Re: The Gorton & Denton might become the most (in)famous by-election in history – politicalbetting.com
Andy Burnham is obviously intending to stir shit, and Labour don’t need the media distraction.
On balance, although this is an awful stitch up, I think it might be right decision.
On balance, although this is an awful stitch up, I think it might be right decision.
Re: The Gorton & Denton might become the most (in)famous by-election in history – politicalbetting.com
Andy Burnham is obviously intending to stir shit, and Labour don’t need the media distraction.he shouldn't have stood, and they shouldn't have blocked him. Zugzwang all round.
On balance, although this is an awful stitch up, I think it might be right decision.