Cyclefree's prejudices are showing. It's not just grooming gangs, it's unisex loos.Not treating girls with respect is a problem.
So you should be.I am ashamed.No, it was a programme.Bit of pwnage of the Brillo going on.This Week was not a flagship political program!
Andrew Neil
@afneil
12h
Why does the BBC have some celebrity chef opine on the geopolitics of the Middle East on its Sunday flagship political programme? Has it had enough of experts?
Matthew Stadlen
@MatthewStadlen
Didn’t we spend years asking celebrities to talk about politics on This Week, Andrew?
https://x.com/MatthewStadlen/status/1934501803950743685
Patrick Spencer MP enters a not guilty plea and is due back in crown court July 14"The Crown Prosecution Service reminds all concerned that criminal proceedings against this defendant are now active and that he has the right to a fair trial.
P Prune have closed down new posts on the discussion thread on the Air India crash. You can still view it though.They have been going round in circles (RAT in, RAT out, why the mayday call, flaps up, gear up confusion) for dozens of pages. Everyone now wants to wait for the flight recorder.
https://www.pprune.org/accidents-close-calls/666472-plane-crash-near-ahmedabad-87.html
- marinate for as long as you want but I normally marinate in the morning or early afternoon if having it for dinnerQuite upset to come on here today and read @Cyclefree's news. I don’t have the right words, and I can't imagine what that must be like to go through. Devastated to read it.I feel the same way - so I'll avoid the subject and ask @Cyclefree the following:
Not sure I will comment further.
- In your skirt beef HP recipe you don't say how long to marinate it for.
- equal parts HP sauce, sherry and red wine for the marinate?
- agree about the abomination of chocolate sprinkles on coffee but are you equally appalled if it is cinnamon?
Thanks.
I think you're probably right about Jenrick replacing Badenoch not much making much difference.Reading the runes I think we could be in the middle phase of a modal shift in the parties. Tories are going to keep sliding - even replacing Badenoch with Jenrick may not do a lot for them. And Labour are disappointing their own supporters just as much as they are the people who leant them a vote last year.Merlin Strategy had polling out at the weekend with 'would be prepared to consider' dataFirst: Reform UK (Farage). Second: UK Reform (Lowe)The latest absurd developments over this issue just adds yet more speed to the Reform bulldozer. I read this morning they are struggling to get donors to actually pay them (is governance an issue I wonder...) - it won't matter.Someone else will need to come along first to take second place
The country feels broken at a pretty fundamental level, with record taxes, crumbling services and an establishment that seems happiest blaming everyone but themselves for their egregious failings. LabCon are done - model what happens when both drop out of the top 2...
joking. hopefully
As it stands Reform, Labour, Tory are the three vying for top 2 (34, 31, 28 respectively) LDs and Greens hit 21 and 16 so without a total collapse, its going to be perm 2 from reform, Labour, tory at GE (29?)
Tories could finish 4th behind the LibDems in seats quite easily, and I can see the Greens gaining a lot of ground with the younger / lefter / more progressive voters. Which will be an almighty mess as FPTP won't be able to cope with it...
Yeah, I bet that's number 1 on Starmer's to do list: send a Moonpig to Farage and Whatshername saying soz.I didn’t say the conservatives would benefit but certainly they along with Reform deserve a full apology from Starmer and several members of his cabinet for accusing their request as far right and rascistLabour have made a godawful mess of this and are rightly going to get booted in the head. I've said that from the start. But the idea that the Tories can capitalise is plainly absurd - they are rightly getting roasted for the brass neck in doing nothing and complaining that Labour are doing nothing.I am surprised you rely on social media but we will seeRead the room. By which I mean the public. The Conservatives *have been* blamed, continue *to be blamed* and will continue to be so. Because so much of this is on them. Labour's handling has been hilariously bad but they have been on office for less than a year.If you think the conservatives are going to be blamed for this then you are not realYou don't agree that the Tories were in government when this cover-up took place? You don't agree that they refused to implement *any* of the recommendations of their own enquiry?I do not agree with you on this and certainly Starmer only has himself to blameYou miss the point. Philip states there have been cover-ups.Chris Philip announces that "hundreds" of people could be going to jail because of the "cover-up" on Grooming gangs.The conservatives instituted the Jay Enquiry and to accuse them of cover ups is a bit far
Question - why did Chris Philip and his government cover this up?
Do the Tories really think there are political points they can score here? Really?
However, I accept more should have been done but Starmer's problem is he and other cabinet ministers accused the opposition of pandering to the far right and even rascism, and as a result is highly compromised and must be regretting he didn't take the initiative and order the enquiry immediately
Starmer reacts to events, and changes his mind making so many u turns his credibilty is undermined by nobody but himself
His party was in government whilst those cover-ups were going on
His party notoriously refused to implement any of the report findings
If there have been cover-ups, the Conservatives presided over them. And now want credit for doing so.
As Sam Coates on Sky said the problem is that most of these crimes were in labour controlled councils and of course they are in government now
There's only one party who is going to do well off this and that's reform, not the Tories. There is an *awful* lot of anger out there and I have been reading a fair bit of it. People go absolutely off it when Tories try to direct blame at Labour.
This is only going to damage the Tories further. What it does to Labour (which will be bad as they have done this absurd performative no no no no no no no yes) doesn't really matter if you are a Tory, as these is going to absolutely immolate them.
I know you have an issue [to be polite] with the conservatives but this is now on labour
Sorry Big G, your lot have absolutely sunk themselves over this. Had they been contrite then maybe a bit of credit. But they're pratting around like they are blameless. And people out there on Facebook and especially Twitter aren't having it.
And they are attacking Starmer for his recognised u turn and his use of language towards them of hard right and racism
Social media can be a terrible talking shop. But it's also the place where trends emerge. In 2025 it's a reality that Twitter, TikTok and Facebook are the main sources of news for large numbers of people - primarily because it's interactive.
You seem to be suggesting that the Tories are going to benefit. They will not - but Reform will. We probably both agree that is a Bad Thing. But it doesn't make it less of a reality.
They wont get one, unless the regime endsWhich is why they may want a deal.Could we be on the verge of a deal with Iran.Large pinch of salt here. Its a single annonymous diplomat.
Reported by Iranwire to be prepared to abandon enrichment but need a face saving deal
https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/1934576252889014528?s=61
And israel want to finish the job now
Anyway here’s the report. https://iranwire.com/en/news/142210-exclusive-tehran-ready-to-abandon-enrichment-but-needs-a-face-saving-exit/