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The Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) has issued a warning about what it calls the "worrying trend" of students hacking their own school and college IT systems for fun or as part of dares.

It has told teachers that they are failing to understand and recognise what it calls the "insider threat" pupils pose.

It says more the majority of so-called "insider" cyber attacks and data breaches in education settings - meaning they have been carried out by someone with access to internal systems - originate with students.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c203pedz58go

But they will never work out VPNs and bypassing OSA.

If an illegal activity was committed using a VPN, the police can trace the users via a warrant to id them from the ISP and then the VPN provider

LOL...you really don't understand VPNs do you. Most paid reputable ones operate no log, RAM cache, IP mixing. Pc Plod is absolutely shit out of luck. Most of those caught doing really dodgy stuff have required a) intelligence services and b) they let something slip unrelated to VPN usage. GCHQ did have a zero day for OpenVPN, but it was closed and they won't burn something like that on some spotty teenager hacking their school.

No, some operate no log as you say not all and as you say intelligence services can be brought in to track cookies and browser fingerprints can be used as well.

And if you are accessing and running child porn sites, planning terrorist outrages and hate crimes with others then GCHQ will be brought in to find you even if your VPN provider has no logs

That is quite an escalation from spotty teenager hacks own school, which is the original conversation.

Also you have repeated showed you don't understand this VPN and anonymising yourself ok the internet, but you keep trying to make ridiculous points when somebody mentions OSA.

No, I do understand it, if you are using VPNs to commit serious crimes then VPN provider logs or not GCHQ will likely eventually catch you.

OSA was brought in primarily to stop under 10s finding porn sites and violent sites by mistake, something clearly and worryingly you don't care about, not to stop spotty teens 13+ watching legal adult porn

What - you haven't a clue

Clearly more than you it seems

I have children and grandchildren and a son who is head of IT at a local school to call on

Your last paragraph could only be written by someone who has no practical knowledge of children's interaction with the Internet

I suggested upthread, Mr G, that he lives a sheltered, perhaps unworldly, life.

Given 69% of adults back the Online Safety Act it is certainly not just the sheltered and unworldly who support it, indeed it is one of the few popular acts of this Labour government ensuring it was implemented

https://yougov.co.uk/technology/articles/52693-how-have-britons-reacted-to-age-verification

Tell me 69% of the population do not understand technology without asking them a question they can deny

The Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) has issued a warning about what it calls the "worrying trend" of students hacking their own school and college IT systems for fun or as part of dares.

It has told teachers that they are failing to understand and recognise what it calls the "insider threat" pupils pose.

It says more the majority of so-called "insider" cyber attacks and data breaches in education settings - meaning they have been carried out by someone with access to internal systems - originate with students.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c203pedz58go

But they will never work out VPNs and bypassing OSA.

If an illegal activity was committed using a VPN, the police can trace the users via a warrant to id them from the ISP and then the VPN provider

LOL...you really don't understand VPNs do you. Most paid reputable ones operate no log, RAM cache, IP mixing. Pc Plod is absolutely shit out of luck. Most of those caught doing really dodgy stuff have required a) intelligence services and b) they let something slip unrelated to VPN usage. GCHQ did have a zero day for OpenVPN, but it was closed and they won't burn something like that on some spotty teenager hacking their school.

No, some operate no log as you say not all and as you say intelligence services can be brought in to track cookies and browser fingerprints can be used as well.

And if you are accessing and running child porn sites, planning terrorist outrages and hate crimes with others then GCHQ will be brought in to find you even if your VPN provider has no logs

That is quite an escalation from spotty teenager hacks own school, which is the original conversation.

Also you have repeated showed you don't understand this VPN and anonymising yourself ok the internet, but you keep trying to make ridiculous points when somebody mentions OSA.

No, I do understand it, if you are using VPNs to commit serious crimes then VPN provider logs or not GCHQ will likely eventually catch you.

OSA was brought in primarily to stop under 10s finding porn sites and violent sites by mistake, something clearly you don't care about, not to stop spotty teens 13+ watching legal adult porn

Sorry, but you really don't understand internet tech.

Are we are back to you are Jimmy Savile.best mate stuff. It's a bad law, implemented badly.

Oh I do, you clearly have no problem with 5 to 13 year olds finding porn and violent sites when accessing the internet and it is very concerning

You're wrong about this HYUFD. It's trivial to get round it. The OSA is no more effective in achieving its aim than HIPs were in achieving theirs. It comes from 'something must be done' 'this is something' 'then we must do this'.

FPT: Ordinarily, I avoid anecdotes, but this one is so timely I have to mention it: Yesterday evening, a couple of Jehovah Witnesses knocked on my door, offering to share their beliefs with me. The homely young man was white, the pretty young woman, black.

Earlier, I had walked by a group of refugees from Ukraine, also Jehovah Witnesses, who have a little place on a main street near me, where they regularly offer smiles, and literature.

One of the things that makes me proud to be an American is that we -- mostly -- tolerate religious groups that are persecuted elsewhere. I have known Jehovah Witnesses all my life, and have found them to be good people, who contribute to society.

(Years ago, I used to meet local politicians who campaigned from door to door, but that seems to have stopped, at least in my neighborhood.)

For the record: I am a "cultural Christian", but have close relatives who are Evangelicals.

The Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) has issued a warning about what it calls the "worrying trend" of students hacking their own school and college IT systems for fun or as part of dares.

It has told teachers that they are failing to understand and recognise what it calls the "insider threat" pupils pose.

It says more the majority of so-called "insider" cyber attacks and data breaches in education settings - meaning they have been carried out by someone with access to internal systems - originate with students.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c203pedz58go

But they will never work out VPNs and bypassing OSA.

If an illegal activity was committed using a VPN, the police can trace the users via a warrant to id them from the ISP and then the VPN provider

LOL...you really don't understand VPNs do you. Most paid reputable ones operate no log, RAM cache, IP mixing. Pc Plod is absolutely shit out of luck. Most of those caught doing really dodgy stuff have required a) intelligence services and b) they let something slip unrelated to VPN usage. GCHQ did have a zero day for OpenVPN, but it was closed and they won't burn something like that on some spotty teenager hacking their school.

No, some operate no log as you say not all and as you say intelligence services can be brought in to track cookies and browser fingerprints can be used as well.

And if you are accessing and running child porn sites, planning terrorist outrages and hate crimes with others then GCHQ will be brought in to find you even if your VPN provider has no logs

That is quite an escalation from spotty teenager hacks own school, which is the original conversation.

Also you have repeated showed you don't understand this VPN and anonymising yourself ok the internet, but you keep trying to make ridiculous points when somebody mentions OSA.

No, I do understand it, if you are using VPNs to commit serious crimes then VPN provider logs or not GCHQ will likely eventually catch you.

OSA was brought in primarily to stop under 10s finding porn sites and violent sites by mistake, something clearly you don't care about, not to stop spotty teens 13+ watching legal adult porn

Sorry, but you really don't understand internet tech.

Are we are back to you are Jimmy Savile.best mate stuff. It's a bad law, implemented badly.

Oh I do, you clearly have no problem with 5 to 13 year olds finding porn and violent sites when accessing the internet and it is very concerning

You're wrong about this HYUFD. It's trivial to get round it. The OSA is no more effective in achieving its aim than HIPs were in achieving theirs. It comes from 'something must be done' 'this is something' 'then we must do this'.

It will be effective in stopping 5-13 year olds accidentally finding porn and violence

It really won’t - the only way to protect young children is to restrict them to a very small list of whitelisted sites

The Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) has issued a warning about what it calls the "worrying trend" of students hacking their own school and college IT systems for fun or as part of dares.

It has told teachers that they are failing to understand and recognise what it calls the "insider threat" pupils pose.

It says more the majority of so-called "insider" cyber attacks and data breaches in education settings - meaning they have been carried out by someone with access to internal systems - originate with students.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c203pedz58go

But they will never work out VPNs and bypassing OSA.

If an illegal activity was committed using a VPN, the police can trace the users via a warrant to id them from the ISP and then the VPN provider

LOL...you really don't understand VPNs do you. Most paid reputable ones operate no log, RAM cache, IP mixing. Pc Plod is absolutely shit out of luck. Most of those caught doing really dodgy stuff have required a) intelligence services and b) they let something slip unrelated to VPN usage. GCHQ did have a zero day for OpenVPN, but it was closed and they won't burn something like that on some spotty teenager hacking their school.

No, some operate no log as you say not all and as you say intelligence services can be brought in to track cookies and browser fingerprints can be used as well.

And if you are accessing and running child porn sites, planning terrorist outrages and hate crimes with others then GCHQ will be brought in to find you even if your VPN provider has no logs

That is quite an escalation from spotty teenager hacks own school, which is the original conversation.

Also you have repeated showed you don't understand this VPN and anonymising yourself ok the internet, but you keep trying to make ridiculous points when somebody mentions OSA.

No, I do understand it, if you are using VPNs to commit serious crimes then VPN provider logs or not GCHQ will likely eventually catch you.

OSA was brought in primarily to stop under 10s finding porn sites and violent sites by mistake, something clearly and worryingly you don't care about, not to stop spotty teens 13+ watching legal adult porn

What - you haven't a clue

Clearly more than you it seems

I have children and grandchildren and a son who is head of IT at a local school to call on

Your last paragraph could only be written by someone who has no practical knowledge of children's interaction with the Internet

I suggested upthread, Mr G, that he lives a sheltered, perhaps unworldly, life.

Given 69% of adults back the Online Safety Act it is certainly not just the sheltered and unworldly who support it, indeed it is one of the few popular acts of this Labour government ensuring it was implemented.

Most of the public are far more authoritarian than the average PB poster

https://yougov.co.uk/technology/articles/52693-how-have-britons-reacted-to-age-verification

Here are just some of the problems with the OSA:

1. Teenage boys are the most technically savvy group on the planet. If they want to evade the OSA it's trivial for them.
2. By encouraging people to use VPNs, and normalising their usage, you make it much harder for the police to track real criminals.
3. It encourages people to use sites that are more likely to be dodgy

What I don't get is why Mandelson was so keen to curry favour with Epstein? What was in it for him?

It's curious the hold Epstein was able to have over some people - Mandelson seemed absolutely besotted. Yet others felt seriously uneasy the moment they clapped eyes on him and ran a mile.

Mandelson's drug of choice is power, and Epstein had lots

The other mysterious thing is quite how Epstein got so rich, while being so generous to everyone that he met.

Someone was paying for all this.

I work in an industry where Epstein helped bring down a big name or two.

The talk (and there’s plenty of evidence) that his fortune came from Israeli intelligence in exchange for well intelligence and kompromat.

Fun fact, Ghislaine Maxwell’s father was a longstanding agent of Mossad.

And both men died in mysterious circumstances.

Mossad have more imagination than the Kremlin