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I see there is no mention of the £570m per year cost in the question.

Instead it mentions 'without paying extra fees'.

According to the BBC there were 9,900 UK students who participated in Erasmus in its last year so if an equivalent number took part that would make it about £57k per student.

Compare with the Turing scheme which seems to be benefitting about 40k students for only £100m.

Once again the EU is exposed as a waste of money and this government yet again shows it couldn't get interest free credit at DFS.

I don't understand the logic of Erasmus.

40k people is considerably more than 9,900.

£100m is considerably less than £570 million.

If we have a half billion pounds lying about to spend on tertiary education, why not give it via Turing which was already helping four times more people at 1/6th of the cost?

I think the Erasmus placements are substantially longer than the Turing placements, that is, a semester or year rather than a month.

Turing placements can be a year

It was still a bloody fool scheme (with a bloody fool and inappropriate name, as an aside). Given we got far more out of Erasmus than we put in I'm glad we're reversing that mistake.

£570 million is a hell of a lot to be putting in.

What is it delivering that Turing didnt for £100 million?

Students from the EU coming here, making a large profit for the university sector and leaving them with an abiding interest in Britain?

(Edit - and of course, if Johnson hadn't pulled out to try and demonstrate his independence, we wouldn't be paying more than about £240 million and would still be getting something like £600 million back. Demonstrating yet again that he is a pig-ignorant fool.)

Starmer might have to avoid Brighton hotels for the next few years.

Palestine Action hunger strikers ‘set to die unless minister acts’

David Lammy, the justice secretary, has refused to meet lawyers for eight protesters refusing food while they await trials scheduled for months away

Palestine Action activists on hunger strike are likely to die in prison if the justice secretary does not intervene, lawyers for the eight protesters have claimed.

On Wednesday two of the group reached day 46 of their protest — the point at which Martin Hurson, 24, became the sixth of ten IRA hunger strikers to die in 1981. A third is on day 45.

In a letter sent to David Lammy, the justice secretary and deputy prime minister, on Tuesday the activists’ lawyers said that without intervention their deaths were “increasingly more than a mere possibility. It is a likelihood.”

Qesser Zuhrah, 20, who is on remand in HMP Bronzefield in Surrey, has been refusing food since November 2. She collapsed “a few nights ago” with her legs shaking uncontrollably, her lawyers said.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/palestine-action-hunger-strikers-set-to-die-unless-minister-acts-qcjttqg8t

The callous comments some have made under this disgust me, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Nope.

Fuck them. If they die it’s down to them and no one else

I’m more concerned about the WPC twatted with a hammer.

Why not stop feeding prisoners? Those who’s friends and family care enough will bring in food. As for the rest ….

Perhaps they can send a cake with a file inside it.

What happens if they don’t have a computer to open the file?

I see there is no mention of the £570m per year cost in the question.

Instead it mentions 'without paying extra fees'.

According to the BBC there were 9,900 UK students who participated in Erasmus in its last year so if an equivalent number took part that would make it about £57k per student.

Compare with the Turing scheme which seems to be benefitting about 40k students for only £100m.

Once again the EU is exposed as a waste of money and this government yet again shows it couldn't get interest free credit at DFS.

I don't understand the logic of Erasmus.

40k people is considerably more than 9,900.

£100m is considerably less than £570 million.

If we have a half billion pounds lying about to spend on tertiary education, why not give it via Turing which was already helping four times more people at 1/6th of the cost?

I think the Erasmus placements are substantially longer than the Turing placements, that is, a semester or year rather than a month.

Turing placements can be a year

It was still a bloody fool scheme (with a bloody fool and inappropriate name, as an aside). Given we got far more out of Erasmus than we put in I'm glad we're reversing that mistake.

£570 million is a hell of a lot to be putting in.

What is it delivering that Turing didnt for £100 million?

Students from the EU coming here, making a large profit for the university sector and leaving them with an abiding interest in Britain?

(Edit - and of course, if Johnson hadn't pulled out to try and demonstrate his independence, we wouldn't be paying more than about £240 million and would still be getting something like £600 million back. Demonstrating yet again that he is a pig-ignorant fool.)

Johnson can hardly be called a pig-ignorant fool; he knows about Peppa.

I see there is no mention of the £570m per year cost in the question.

Instead it mentions 'without paying extra fees'.

According to the BBC there were 9,900 UK students who participated in Erasmus in its last year so if an equivalent number took part that would make it about £57k per student.

Compare with the Turing scheme which seems to be benefitting about 40k students for only £100m.

Once again the EU is exposed as a waste of money and this government yet again shows it couldn't get interest free credit at DFS.

I don't understand the logic of Erasmus.

40k people is considerably more than 9,900.

£100m is considerably less than £570 million.

If we have a half billion pounds lying about to spend on tertiary education, why not give it via Turing which was already helping four times more people at 1/6th of the cost?

I think the Erasmus placements are substantially longer than the Turing placements, that is, a semester or year rather than a month.

It seems like a heck of a lot of money to spend on already privileged people. I’m sure there are better uses of the resources

Shocked that Trump is on the side of Russia.

US warns Europe against giving frozen Russian billions to Ukraine

As European leaders prepare to meet on Thursday, Washington is pressuring them to abandon plans to seize assets because they ‘are going to have to give it back’

https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/frozen-russia-assets-ukraine-eu-us-hcrt8xjmw

America is probably right about the frozen assets though. I'm surprised the international law and global order enthusiasts are so cavalier about property rights.

It is probably best to invest the lot in TrumpCoin and give the profits to Ukraine, and eventually return the principal to Russia. What could go wrong?

Technically, and actually so in an important way, there is no change to ownership of these assets. Which is why Belgium is up in arms about it. A "loan" is made to Ukraine using these assets as backing. The loan is not required to be repaid until Russia provides reparations to that country. The assets are frozen until such time the reparations are resolved, which is quite likely to be indefinite. Russia doesn't pay reparations and the EU doesn't unfreeze the assets.

Belgium is concerned that the assets may be unfrozen before Ukraine sees any reparations.

Some of the banks holding assets have expressed concern that they may end up between two legal jurisdictions if the release the assets, rather than just freezing them.