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Re: A little bit of history repeating? – politicalbetting.com
For the first time in my life I am contemplating voting Labour.Taking money from the working class and giving it to the children of the middle classes.The £570m is the membership fee.£570mn a year for Erasmus?! I see the Chagos negotiators have already found a new job in government.I have no problem re-joining Eramus but it seems strange that our granddaughter spent her penultimate Leeds degree course in 2024 in Turin University so what is the difference that will cost £570million pa ?
Slowly but surely Starmer is unravelling Brexit.
Re: A little bit of history repeating? – politicalbetting.com
Accidental racism from Starmer.Surely you meant Occidental racism?
https://x.com/lewis_goodall/status/2001262534545092623
Keir Starmer: "I have a Christmas message for Reform. If mysterious men from the east come bearing gifts...this time, report it to the police."
Re: A little bit of history repeating? – politicalbetting.com
Accidental racism from Starmer.
https://x.com/lewis_goodall/status/2001262534545092623
Keir Starmer: "I have a Christmas message for Reform. If mysterious men from the east come bearing gifts...this time, report it to the police."
https://x.com/lewis_goodall/status/2001262534545092623
Keir Starmer: "I have a Christmas message for Reform. If mysterious men from the east come bearing gifts...this time, report it to the police."
Re: A little bit of history repeating? – politicalbetting.com
The tyranny of low expectations continues to plague British discourse on education. A class system that’s been pickled into a rigid dogma over the decades.
“Higher education is only for the middle class therefore Erasmus is taking from the workers to give to the bourgeoisie” is a sentiment I suspect you would only find in this country.
“Higher education is only for the middle class therefore Erasmus is taking from the workers to give to the bourgeoisie” is a sentiment I suspect you would only find in this country.
MelonB
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Re: A little bit of history repeating? – politicalbetting.com
£570mn a year for Erasmus?! I see the Chagos negotiators have already found a new job in government.We need a comparator on that.
The requested contribution for 2021 that the UK Govt walked away from was £600 million per annum: *
Under Erasmus+, the UK already contributed significantly more than we got out in the form of receipts, and the only terms of offer for continued participation would have required an annual gross contribution of £600 million, or a net contribution in the region of £2 billion over the course of the programme.
£600 million a year in 2027 with 2021->2027 inflation of 30% (about right) would be £780 million pro-rata, so £570 million is a like for like reduction of 27%.
Is that a good deal? I think that probably depends on how well we fill our quota of 100k students.
Back in 2020 there was funding for 55.7k students to be involved, and we sent 10k and received 16k. It's up to us to use it fully. I think in that case it will be good value, especially in undermining the xenophobia that poisons our politics.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg4ng7ee9vwo
* https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2021-07-12/HL1883/
MattW
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Re: A little bit of history repeating? – politicalbetting.com
Labour at 10% in Wales is utterly devastating for them but well earnedhttps://x.com/i/status/2001181075742023857I dont think anyone has commented on latest YouGov opinion poll from Wales for Senedd elections.Do you have a link please?
Plaid 33%
Reform 30%
Labour 10% !!!
Conservative 10%
Green 9%
LibDem 6%
This would give (around):
Plaid 39 seats
Reform 34 seats
Labour 10 seats
Conservatives 6 seats
LibDem 4 seats
Green 3 seats
The finishing line (in new 96 member Senedd) is 49,
So Plaid & Lab = 49
Reform & Con = 40
But with a small movement in seats it might be possible for Plaid to form a coalition with Green & LD...consigning Labour to the back benches. Popcorn supplies on order....
Re: A little bit of history repeating? – politicalbetting.com
Wonder if we will get any year end MRPs. More in Common today at Ref 29, Lab 21, Con 20, LD 12 Green 11 would have a LOT of nail biters
Re: Starmer once again displays his lawyerly brilliance – politicalbetting.com
Such a blockade is quite plainly an act of war under US (and of course international) law - unauthorised by Congress.
Aaron Rupar
@atrupar
Trump: "Venezuela is completely surrounded by the largest Armada ever assembled in the History of South America. It will only get bigger, and the shock to them will be like nothing they have ever seen before — Until such time as they return to the United States of America all of the Oil, Land, and other Assets that they previously stole from us. The illegitimate Maduro Regime is using Oil from these stolen Oil Fields to finance themselves, Drug Terrorism, Human Trafficking, Murder, and Kidnapping. For the theft of our Assets, and many other reasons, including Terrorism, Drug Smuggling, and Human Trafficking, the Venezuelan Regime has been designated a FOREIGN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION."
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2001078084972298619
Trump is effectively re-enacting Suez.
Nigelb
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Re: Starmer once again displays his lawyerly brilliance – politicalbetting.com
There are only two possible candidates for next Labour leader and next PM.Both will struggle to hold their seats at the next election if the polling stays where it is.
Wes Streeting and Shabana Mahmood.
Neither is “perfect”. But they’re the only two who have any kind of charisma, nous, or energy.
Labour needs to heed the U.S. Democrats who propped up Biden well after his due by date, destroying their chances to find a viable candidate.
Taz
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Re: A little bit of history repeating? – politicalbetting.com
Oh Plaid are favourites for sure.Even if Reform manage to be the largest party, it is difficult to see how they could form a government as only Cons will work with them - and that is not certain.If Ref and PC are close then it might come down to the efficiency of the Tory and Lab votes on low double figures as to who can form a government. I personally think its very unlikely the LDs and Greens get more than 4 seats between them, so its then down to Lab and Con 'converting in sixth' away from their 'bankers'I dont think anyone has commented on latest YouGov opinion poll from Wales for Senedd elections.Either way a Plaid FM looks likely even if Reform won most Welsh seats, though I doubt the voteshares change much now so Labour will likely remain in power as minority partners with Plaid. So vote Plaid still get Labour has some merit as a slogan
Plaid 33%
Reform 30%
Labour 10% !!!
Conservative 10%
Green 9%
LibDem 6%
This would give (around):
Plaid 39 seats
Reform 34 seats
Labour 10 seats
Conservatives 6 seats
LibDem 4 seats
Green 3 seats
The finishing line (in new 96 member Senedd) is 49,
So Plaid & Lab = 49
Reform & Con = 40
But with a small movement in seats it might be possible for Plaid to form a coalition with Green & LD...consigning Labour to the back benches. Popcorn supplies on order....
Plaid have the advantage of having three potential suitors.
But the sixth places are vital. The more Con or Lab crawl above 10% the more they will pick up - getting lucky in 2 or 3 might be the difference.
LDs on 4 is too high on 6% though imo. Ill be amazed if they get more than 2 - one in Cardiff (east), one in Brecon etc
Edit - and FWIW i expect the Tories to tell Reform to do one. Although if holding balance theyd probably let Reform fall apart in minority



