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Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
No, Wes's problem is that his party might take the view that now is the time for a woman to lead Labour.As I said yesterday, Wes needs something popular with Labour members that doesn’t involve him backing the left. There aren’t many candidatesHis problem is that it won't be a coronation and his rival(s) are likely to take the same approch to slow Rejoin.
His advantage is that many Labour backbenchers, worried about retaining seats they unexpectedly won in the 2024 landslide, might be wary of Ed Miliband who has already lost a general election. It is even likely that Miliband himself realises this and is aiming instead at Number 11. I gather some PB shrewdies have taken 33/1 against such a contingency.
Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
You're just making the case why they need us back.I do rather enjoy the way Remainers studiously ignore the politics of the EU since we left.Oh, and all of the post-Brexit trade agreements, including with the US and the CP-TPP, will need to be torn up in order to rejoin anything EU-based.Are we seriously back talking about what “A” customs union, rather than “THE” customs union, looks like in practice?Good morning, everyone.
Ask the Turks what “A” CU looks like, it’s terribly one-sided.
Mr. Sandpit, easier (and less honest) to try and get us closer and closer to the EU then say "We may as well join seeing as we're already bound by their decisions but currently have no say" than it is to actually make a case for rejoining.
Currently we are missing the fight on Mercosur, the perennial budget dispute and the death of the AI industry. Not forgetting of course the reverse gear on car emissions.
Nigelb
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Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
That approach has consistently failed to win over public opinion in Norway, however. But Norway was never foolish enough to volunteer for a damaging separation, and we would have been less foolish to have copied the Norwegian approach from the beginning.Are we seriously back talking about what “A” customs union, rather than “THE” customs union, looks like in practice?Good morning, everyone.
Ask the Turks what “A” CU looks like, it’s terribly one-sided.
Mr. Sandpit, easier (and less honest) to try and get us closer and closer to the EU then say "We may as well join seeing as we're already bound by their decisions but currently have no say" than it is to actually make a case for rejoining.
IanB2
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Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
But the bleeding has been staunched in 2025. The Conservative Party is in a better position now than it was in the summer. The same cannot be said of Labour.FPTIf you’re slowly bleeding to death, seeing someone else having their head chopped off is hardly an achievement?
But...at the 2024 general election, the Labour Party polled exactly 10% more than the Conservative Party. Labour is now BEHIND the Conservatives. That is AN achievement.
If - as I expect - the Tories are polling ahead of both Labour and Reform by the end of 2026, then they will have much to thank Kemi Badenoch for.
This chart gives the shits for Labour, Reform, the LibDems...and people trying to ignore it is frankly hilarious.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#/media/File:Opinion_polling_graph_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election_(post-2024).svg
Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
Yes but they were Tory trade agreements so don't matter/ don't count.Oh, and all of the post-Brexit trade agreements, including with the US and the CP-TPP, will need to be torn up in order to rejoin anything EU-based.Are we seriously back talking about what “A” customs union, rather than “THE” customs union, looks like in practice?Good morning, everyone.
Ask the Turks what “A” CU looks like, it’s terribly one-sided.
Mr. Sandpit, easier (and less honest) to try and get us closer and closer to the EU then say "We may as well join seeing as we're already bound by their decisions but currently have no say" than it is to actually make a case for rejoining.
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Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
I do rather enjoy the way Remainers studiously ignore the politics of the EU since we left.Oh, and all of the post-Brexit trade agreements, including with the US and the CP-TPP, will need to be torn up in order to rejoin anything EU-based.Are we seriously back talking about what “A” customs union, rather than “THE” customs union, looks like in practice?Good morning, everyone.
Ask the Turks what “A” CU looks like, it’s terribly one-sided.
Mr. Sandpit, easier (and less honest) to try and get us closer and closer to the EU then say "We may as well join seeing as we're already bound by their decisions but currently have no say" than it is to actually make a case for rejoining.
Currently we are missing the fight on Mercosur, the perennial budget dispute and the death of the AI industry. Not forgetting of course the reverse gear on car emissions.
Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
Are we seriously back talking about what “A” customs union, rather than “THE” customs union, looks like in practice?Vox populi, vox dei.
Ask the Turks what “A” CU looks like, it’s terribly one-sided.
We hold all the cards, it'll be the easiest deal in history, plus German car manufacturers as the EU needs us more than we need them.
Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
Reads to me as though Wes Streeting's remedy for crushing debt and heavy taxation is to commit to further vast expenditure.
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Re: Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
Probably best to stick to your core strength: modesty.I do no other type of irony.Yes, I am aware of the irony of me calling out other people for a lack of subtlety.Is that a subtle irony?
Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
Wes Streeting displays absolutely no subtlety as he goes on manoeuvres – politicalbetting.com
Wes Streeting has defied Sir Keir Starmer and suggested Britain should join a customs union with Europe, as a poll for The Times shows eight out of ten Labour voters support the move https://t.co/2lZGi72iXG
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