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Re: New poll brings comfort for Andy Burnham – politicalbetting.com
Considering that Labour’s unpopularity was triggered by the means testing of the Winter Fuel Allowance any party that tried to cut the triple lock would be absolutely murdered. The problem in the UK is not with our politicians, it is with the public.From what I'm hearing on this thread, doing so would be absolute political gold dust. I'm amazed all our politicians are failing to appreciate the magic.Andy Burnham promises to keep the state pension triple lock if he becomes PMQuestion. Is there any major politician committed to removing the state pension triple lock?
https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2066132953785118852?s=46&t=Gsn9rlDEZH5vXP97Cgifnw
Re: New poll brings comfort for Andy Burnham – politicalbetting.com
If anyone wants a ten minute primer on the defence spending argument, Jack Watling lays it out exceptionally clearly at the beginning of WATO.
The points about the hidden run down of the forces (beyond the headline figures) under the Tories, along with Starmer's impossible pledges to NATO without a lot more money, are particularly damning.
He also sets out well the broad choices facing government. For now they simply haven't made them.
Actually the whole episode is very good.
The points about the hidden run down of the forces (beyond the headline figures) under the Tories, along with Starmer's impossible pledges to NATO without a lot more money, are particularly damning.
He also sets out well the broad choices facing government. For now they simply haven't made them.
Actually the whole episode is very good.
Nigelb
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Re: New poll brings comfort for Andy Burnham – politicalbetting.com
FPT…It's a hard case. Like algarkirk, I have very little sympathy with the defendants.I’m not disagreeing with everything you say there, but I wish to dispute the notion that protest that involves breaking the law has fascistic overtones. This country has a long tradition of protest that involves breaking the law, as do other Anglophone nations like the US.I hadn't noticed this detail.I sympathise with the judge who has a problem. he has to act according to law, whatever his personal views. The defendants clearly don't think the law should apply to them.
few will appreciate how grimly funny it is that this judge both issued a gagging order so that the filton 4 could not explain their motivation to the jury, and then also sentenced them according to a specific intent provision requiring them to have had a specific motivation
https://x.com/ergo_praxis/status/2066049704811491467
There is a middle position: The government is wrong to extend terrorism to obviously non terrorist acts; and the defendants are wrong to try to get off a criminal charge by running a defence about motivation which in law isn't one.
The judge was right to stop them trying to do so, and is bound by law in the sentencing process to take motive into account. Motivation goes to mitigation/aggravation of an offence, not guilt.
Extending our traditional freedoms to protest to mean including breaking the law in serious ways a is a dangerous step, with fascistic overtones.
Finally, if the judge has got it wrong they can appeal.
The Suffragettes get mentioned often, but better examples include the Tolpuddle martyrs, the early years of trade unionism, some of the civil rights marches in Northern Ireland, helping slaves to escape, etc.
What seriously troubles me is the twisting into pretzels of the legal system to achieve the conviction.
A justice system risks abandoning justice if it sets aside the rules to reach a desired outcome.
Nigelb
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Re: New poll brings comfort for Andy Burnham – politicalbetting.com
Son of Saul!All those of you listing films that made you sob have for some incomprehensible reason forgotten to list the end of "Silent Running"Grave of the Fireflies.
"...There's a little robot. With a watering can. And he's trying to keep the last trees alive. In the whole universe. AND HE'S ALL ON HIS OWN. BWAAAAH-HAH!..."
- Last scene of "Silent Running": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ0JGjKYVdU
- Mark Kermode on "Silent Running": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUsV5LP30rU
- Edgar Wright on "Silent Running": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YoJaG-9XZE
Peter.
Re: Toto, I’ve a feeling we’re not in 2016 any more – politicalbetting.com
There's one thing that puts the shits up big, brave Al.I love watching a former soldier turned MP getting found out, whichever side they're on. We need to stop putting them on a pedestal. It's not as common as thinking someone will be a good leader because they've "been in business" but it's just as silly.
https://x.com/weeshug72/status/2066083380551184878?s=20
Re: New poll brings comfort for Andy Burnham – politicalbetting.com
Their business model needs destroying. It will come to be seen as the poison at the heart of the first quarter of the 21st century. History will ask "What the fuck were they thinking?"Due Care!Make platforms that promote violent content pay towards riot costs, Streeting saysSimpler.
Exclusive: Former minister calls for urgent action against companies such as X that allow incitement to violence
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/14/make-platforms-that-promote-violent-content-pay-towards-riot-costs-streeting-says
Make using algorithms (aside from time order) make the site/app a publisher.
So they have the same legal liabilities as newspapers, magazines and books.
If you simply publish comments to stories in time order, and delete ones for illegality for offence your are not a publisher
They claim they are like the Post office merely distributing not publishing, but the post office not only has rules about what you can and cannot post but must also do what it reasonably can to spot things like explosives or batteries in the post.
Are the doing enough to intercept the things being posted. You’d think that between Algorithms and AI they could do a better job, unless of course they just prefer not to.
Set up a standard they have to meet and then fine them if they don’t. You can start by going beyond age verification to identification. You can post under any name you like but both the poster and the provider need to be able to verify your true identity so that if you deliberately post something illegal or derogatory you can be found.
They would f course fight that tooth and nail because that really would undermine their business model.
Peter.
Re: New poll brings comfort for Andy Burnham – politicalbetting.com
Is there Anything to Anyone Burnham hasn’t Promised Yet?Andy Burnham promises to keep the state pension triple lock if he becomes PMNot sure that will survive through to the election.
https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2066132953785118852?s=46&t=Gsn9rlDEZH5vXP97Cgifnw
The Mail on Sunday is girding its loins for the fight to keep it, natch.
Isn’t that how we got in this mess!
Peter.
Re: Toto, I’ve a feeling we’re not in 2016 any more – politicalbetting.com
Not many The Wizard of Oz fans on here I see.You have no heart!
Re: New poll brings comfort for Andy Burnham – politicalbetting.com
All those of you listing films that made you sob have for some incomprehensible reason forgotten to list the end of "Silent Running"Grave of the Fireflies.
"...There's a little robot. With a watering can. And he's trying to keep the last trees alive. In the whole universe. AND HE'S ALL ON HIS OWN. BWAAAAH-HAH!..."
- Last scene of "Silent Running": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ0JGjKYVdU
- Mark Kermode on "Silent Running": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUsV5LP30rU
- Edgar Wright on "Silent Running": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YoJaG-9XZE
Nigelb
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Re: New poll brings comfort for Andy Burnham – politicalbetting.com
You call it as the usual bollox TazIt’s funny to read places I know being posted about on here.Quality vague posting.
malcolmg
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