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Re: Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin, Starmer’s Pincher moment – politicalbetting.com
I assume his association with Mandleson and Starmerism is knocking Streeting's perceived chances?Significant movements in next PM market - Streeting drifting and Miliband tightening.I think he's good value there. Why is Burnham even considered when he's not in MP and has no route of getting into the Commons?
Rayner 4.1
Streeting 6.6
Miliband 8.4
Mahmood 12
(Farage 12)
Cooper 21
Powell 22
Burnham 25
Carns 26
Rayner would be Labours Liz Truss. Are they really going to go down that avenue? Wes is too connected to Mandelson and anyway he might not even be an MP in 2029 unless he does a chicken run.
Miliband makes sense as Labour likes him and he's not associated with Mandelson. Although I think he'll be a total disaste, that's where I suspect Labour will go next...
In this market I've simply focused on laying Farage, Johnson and Rupert Lowe, when the odds offered have been favourable. It's put me happily green on all the Labour choices, so provided Starmer doesn't call a surprise election things are looking good....
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Re: Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin, Starmer’s Pincher moment – politicalbetting.com
Sticking with the hapless Skyr through the next election isn't a runner.If she puts someone credible into Number 11 and leaves them to get on with it then she can avoid that fate, but it depends how radical she wants to be.
So if t'were done, better it were done pretty damn soon.
Rayner looks to be frontrunner. She clearly wants the gig.
There is a risk that she is woeful, loses the markets and becomes Labour's very own Liz Truss. With all that entails for replacing her and the damage that does to the brand.
But it won't be dull.
Re: Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin, Starmer’s Pincher moment – politicalbetting.com
The wider issue is that society in general has started to make accommodations for ‘disability’, and that these accommodations are being gamed by bad actors, because those making the accommodations have little way of checking eligibility for them.Some hoo hah about Alton Towers changing the rules for their disability access pass on Facebook. The extensive comments give a clue as to why the country is in the state it's in wrt schools, disability benefits etc imoThere are varied takes on it. I'd probably call it as as PR Cockup with poor processes.
(I'd say they could start lending out shooting sticks for a deposit.)
ITVx: Heather Giles has Early Onset Parkinsons disease and pre-booked the passes to Alton Towers but was told on the day there were none left.
https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2024-09-02/i-just-had-to-suffer-disabled-woman-had-to-crawl-along-queue-at-theme-park
GB News: (Who forced them?) Alton Towers forced to ban people with 'anxiety' from using disability queue-jump pass
https://www.gbnews.com/news/alton-towers-anxiety-disability-queue-jump-pass
Telegraph: Theme park changes rules after complaints from visitors with mobility problems over longer ‘fast lane’ queues
Full article: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/0482a1089407faa9
So we see 40% of kids at Stanford are ‘disabled’, becuase that means they get extra time in tests and single room accommodation, in the UK we see a huge rise in kids taking taxi as to school, or people claiming sickness benefits for mental health issues.
These things all started off with good intent, but have led to perverse outcomes and huge financial costs to both government and companies dealing with the public. It’s also very difficult to row back, because of the risk of lawsuits and public accusations of discrimination.
Alton Towers would be better off offering wheelchairs on demand for disabled customers, and not offering a pass to jump queues for rides.
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Re: Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin, Starmer’s Pincher moment – politicalbetting.com
I hate these people with a passion.
Crying child and ‘oblivious’ parents ruined lunch, says ex-newsreader
Jan Leeming complains that the parents of a screaming baby and a child wandering through The Pig at Bridge Place should have organised a babysitter
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/media/article/jan-leeming-bbc-children-parents-the-pig-lunch-ftbthv2wl
Crying child and ‘oblivious’ parents ruined lunch, says ex-newsreader
Jan Leeming complains that the parents of a screaming baby and a child wandering through The Pig at Bridge Place should have organised a babysitter
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/media/article/jan-leeming-bbc-children-parents-the-pig-lunch-ftbthv2wl
Re: Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin, Starmer’s Pincher moment – politicalbetting.com
I've no idea, I'm not advocating for him. Just taking the credit if it happens. If it doesn't, I'll never mention it again. The TSE gambitYes, there are a number of ex military in the Commons. Plenty of them are uninspiring.something something marines something somethingWhat has he done politically to promote such speculation ?I do believe I said it first
“Al” refers to Al Carns… an outside chance but interesting to see him included. He is popular among the new intake of MPs, I am told.
(Admittedly I stole idea from a whatsapp group of very switched on people but that is what it is)
Other than he tweets a lot, and is a junior defence minister, what's his USP ?
Re: Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin, Starmer’s Pincher moment – politicalbetting.com
Royal Society with an academic survey that proves the meme.
The reason for the political polarisation of the last decade and a half, is that the left have moved a lot further left in their views.
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/rsos/article/13/2/251428/479919/A-new-measure-of-issue-polarization-using-k-means
https://x.com/kangminjlee/status/2019202512264606035
https://x.com/g_s_bhogal/status/2019047132129272274
The reason for the political polarisation of the last decade and a half, is that the left have moved a lot further left in their views.
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/rsos/article/13/2/251428/479919/A-new-measure-of-issue-polarization-using-k-means
https://x.com/kangminjlee/status/2019202512264606035
https://x.com/g_s_bhogal/status/2019047132129272274
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Re: Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin, Starmer’s Pincher moment – politicalbetting.com
I think that just means that 40% of American kids -at least- are on ritalin or Adderall.Some hoo hah about Alton Towers changing the rules for their disability access pass on Facebook. The extensive comments give a clue as to why the country is in the state it's in wrt schools, disability benefits etc imoNot just a UK problem either.
40% of students at Stanford are now ‘disabled’.
https://x.com/owengregorian/status/2018665259385442690
https://x.com/dkthomp/status/1995899910009626790
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Re: Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin, Starmer’s Pincher moment – politicalbetting.com
"Bagehot
Britain’s worst political scandal of this century
The Mandelson affair threatens Sir Keir Starmer’s premiership
In retrospect, the signs were there. In February 2025 Peter Mandelson was asked by the Financial Times about his relationship with the deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. The soon-to-be British ambassador to America offered a forthright response. “I’m not going to go into this. It’s an FT obsession and frankly you can all fuck off. OK?” (£)
https://www.economist.com/britain/2026/02/04/britains-worst-political-scandal-of-this-century
Britain’s worst political scandal of this century
The Mandelson affair threatens Sir Keir Starmer’s premiership
In retrospect, the signs were there. In February 2025 Peter Mandelson was asked by the Financial Times about his relationship with the deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. The soon-to-be British ambassador to America offered a forthright response. “I’m not going to go into this. It’s an FT obsession and frankly you can all fuck off. OK?” (£)
https://www.economist.com/britain/2026/02/04/britains-worst-political-scandal-of-this-century
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Re: Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin, Starmer’s Pincher moment – politicalbetting.com
The Tories demonstrated well - more than once - that a change of PM absolutely can make things worse.Oh God, not this from you again: "she couldn't we worse".I don’t think Angela Rayner is a traitor. I DO believe that about Starmer and those around him - Hermer, Sands, Powell. They loathe Britain and seek to harm BritonsWhilst I agree Starmer is in trouble, I am not sure the Pincher analogy holds water.She's the furthest they've got from the old boy's club attitudes that led to where we are.
With Pincher, it wasn't simply a failure of vetting but a situation where Johnson lied about what he knew and had colleagues unwittingly sent onto the media to propogate that lie. This was also the latest in a series of incidents where Johnson had been utterly unreliable.
That may yet turn out to be the case for Starmer, but I don't think we are there - it was a foolish appointment given Mandelson's track record, but I don't think the anger towards Mandelson for having misled Starmer is synthetic.
For that reason, whilst there is definitely a competence issue there and it's increasingly hard to see a very long term future for Starmer, I don't really see it playing out as it did in the final days of Johnson.
I also find the Rayner surge a little odd. She has a lot going for her, but she isn't exactly Ms Clean, the candidate of unimpeachable personal integrity.
It’s that basic
Rayner might well be an economic disaster but fuck it, how does that change anything. I don’t think Rayner will deliberately enact policies that are solely designed to harm the country she governs because she despises it
It’s a pretty low bar but I reckon she’ll clear it
She absolutely could be fucking worse.
I'm terrified of Rayner becoming PM.
There’s no serious question to which Angela Rayner is the answer. She can’t even run her own house without screwing up the finances, let alone the country.
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