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Re: Who will be Andy Burnham’s Chancellor? – politicalbetting.com
Country before party doesn't necessarily mean doing what the country wants, but doing what you think it needs - indeed, doing what it needs but does not want is bad for party, often, so putting country first. Doing what the country wants would mean frequently doing six impossible things before breakfast!Good morningI don't think Mahmood has done a good job as Home Secretary. Her immigration policy is a mess, leaving aside whether you agree with its aims. Relatedly but separately she is despised by anyone who is slightly liberal, which is almost everyone in the Labour Party along with most people who might vote for it.A Labour Home Sec despised by the membership is clearly doing a good job.
The membership live in cloud cuckoo land.
Interesting Trevor Phillips commented last night that Labour talk much about country first party second, when the evidence is much the opposite from attacking Mahmood immigration policies to the abolition of the 2 child cap where the country are in the opposite position
He also said the dog that didn't bark in Makerfield was Gaza
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Re: Who will be Andy Burnham’s Chancellor? – politicalbetting.com
Ed Miliband probably makes our gilt rates jump (again) instantly, so unless he's really stupid it won't he him. I suspect he thinks Wes Streeting is untrustworthy.
So, yes, Mahmood (if this is shortlist is accurate, which it very well might not be)
So, yes, Mahmood (if this is shortlist is accurate, which it very well might not be)
Re: Who will be Andy Burnham’s Chancellor? – politicalbetting.com
There's always a Tweet.
I have never taken part in a coup against any Leader of the Labour Party and I am not going to start now. 2/3
https://x.com/AndyBurnhamGM/status/747036912641318912
I have never taken part in a coup against any Leader of the Labour Party and I am not going to start now. 2/3
https://x.com/AndyBurnhamGM/status/747036912641318912
Re: Who will be Andy Burnham’s Chancellor? – politicalbetting.com
I suspect Burnham’s biggest change or reversion to mean will be making decisions. By all accounts, Starmer tried to delegate this away from himself constantly.
Re: Who will be Andy Burnham’s Chancellor? – politicalbetting.com
Its a really important decision because it will do so much to shape his government. He also needs a Chancellor who can survive the buffeting that is coming from both the markets and from inside the party as so many have to learn yet again that austerity was not a choice but a necessity.I expect quite strongly that Burnham will continue current net zero policies, just as Miliband continued previous Conservative government policies under Starmer.
I would be very concerned if it was Ed Miliband. He has some relevant experience but the policies he has promoted in Environment through both net zero and in the North Sea have been hugely damaging and anti-growth.
Louise Haigh, in my opinion, has neither the skills or experience for it but its not unusual for the person who has run a successful campaign for the leader to get it. I suspect she is undervalued.
Streeting has shown he is quick and robust in the way he has faced down the most powerful unions in the country at Health. His problem, and the reason he is not a candidate, is that he has very little of a following in the party (like Reeves in that respect) so he doesn't add any great strength to the ticket. He's probably rightly favourite though and I suspect the markets would like it.
I don't think that Yvette Cooper has the stamina for it given her health problems.
Mahmood would be a possibility, especially if Burnham wanted another woman in the role.
I do expect the rhetoric to change though from moral necessity for the planet to these are the future industries and energy security. I also expect Burnham to be much more engaged than Starmer who handed everything off to Miliband.
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Re: Who will be Andy Burnham’s Chancellor? – politicalbetting.com
Keep Mahmood in place. Keep up the good work.Seriously, Mahmood looks like a good option but if you've got a Home Secretary who is perceived to be doing well don't change that, you're unlikley to find another one.I think she has said she wants to remain Home Secretary.
Unless Burnham intends to cave in to the handwringers when it comes to immigration and law & order.
Re: Who will be Andy Burnham’s Chancellor? – politicalbetting.com
Morning all,
I think Wes will be CoE, personally.
BTW massive thunderstorms and lightning over part of southern England last night. Map of strikes here:
https://www.lightningmaps.org/?lang=gb#google_vignette;z=7;t=3;y=50.0383;x=-0.5651;d=2;dl=2;dc=0;ts24=1;m=oss;s=0;o=0;b=0.00;ts=0;
I think Wes will be CoE, personally.
BTW massive thunderstorms and lightning over part of southern England last night. Map of strikes here:
https://www.lightningmaps.org/?lang=gb#google_vignette;z=7;t=3;y=50.0383;x=-0.5651;d=2;dl=2;dc=0;ts24=1;m=oss;s=0;o=0;b=0.00;ts=0;
Re: Who will be Andy Burnham’s Chancellor? – politicalbetting.com
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Re: Who will be Andy Burnham’s Chancellor? – politicalbetting.com
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Re: Who will be Andy Burnham’s Chancellor? – politicalbetting.com
Good morningI don't think Mahmood has done a good job as Home Secretary. Her immigration policy is a mess, leaving aside whether you agree with its aims. Relatedly but separately she is despised by anyone who is slightly liberal, which is almost everyone in the Labour Party along with most people who might vote for it.A Labour Home Sec despised by the membership is clearly doing a good job.
The membership live in cloud cuckoo land.
Interesting Trevor Phillips commented last night that Labour talk much about country first party second, when the evidence is much the opposite from attacking Mahmood immigration policies to the abolition of the 2 child cap where the country are in the opposite position
He also said the dog that didn't bark in Makerfield was Gaza





