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Re: The end of the Keir show – politicalbetting.com
It is in large part because of a fundamental clash between high tech interventionist medicine and female centrered "natural childbirth" philosophies held by many midwives and mothers. Being a philosophical, almost theological conflict, it tips into war very quickly.I find it shocking that something so fundamentally important as the start of new life is treated so neglectfully.Maternity scandals are the rule rather than the exception in the UK.How much will no 4 cost? Not just the nationalisation but all the remedial work needed. How is it going to be paid for?He has said no PR this side of a GE.1, Remove red lines on CU and SMWhat's Burnham's plan? Free buses for WASPI women or something equally ridiculous."These are really astonishing times. Starmer wins a huge majority and, within 2 years, is forced to resign by his own party on behalf of someone who has not even been an MP for more than a decade."These are really astonishing times. Starmer wins a huge majority and, within 2 years, is forced to resign by his own party on behalf of someone who has not even been an MP for more than a decade. This is done on the basis of no discernible platform or policy difference but simply the belief that one is capable of speaking to and relating to people and the other is not. It is an incredible gamble, not just for the Labour party but for the country.I would say desperate, rather than reckless.
I think all sensible people can only hope this works for the sake of the country but I am not sure reckless really covers it.
Reckless implies that there's a better option that is being passed over, but there isn't, really. For whatever reason the Cabinet is incredibly weak. There are no major political divides, because none of them have a clue.
And so, with such a complete lack of leadership they turn in desperation to the one person exhibits some motive force.
The reason this has happened is
a) Starmer is not a politician and has no idea why this has happened and the whole thing is bewildering to him. He never had a 'story' or narrative to tell the voters. He never had one or two guiding star ideas as to what should be done for Britain.
b) Labour under McSweeney spent so much time eradicating Corbynista and campaigning to win via a 'time for change' strategy that was actually a ming vase walk* that they did not think to actually have a serious plan for governing
c) the problems facing any PM are bordering on insurmountable.
* Contrast with Blair/Brown - ming vase with an actual up their sleeve plan from day one - e.g bank of england.
2. Go for PR
3. Devolve more authority to local authorities and promote more social housing
4. Bring Thames Water into public ownership
All popular, big, and easy to describe.
Meanwhile this - https://www.thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/article/nhs-hospital-nottinham-inquiry-baby-deaths-kj99rx3lw - will be familiar to Burnham from his time in Health. What's his plan to deal with these sorts of widespread scandals? A reminder: a Parliamentary Commission recently pointed out that good maternity care was the exception rather than the rule in Britain.
I understand that the annual cost of litigation over maternity exceeds the annual cost of all maternity units. In part this is because of the lifetime cost of disability, but even so an astonishing figure.
Not unique to the UK, indeed the US figures are pretty appalling too, so to a degree Obstetrics is intrinsically high risk.
But there is an underlying issue between midwives and obstetricians in the UK over responsibility that goes back further than Wendy Savage in the Eighties. I think there is fault on both sides but a fundamental difference in culture.
There also has been neglect of services because there are few government targets apart from pressure to reduce section rates.
There is no easy answer to these issues and a lot of departments have very poor teamworking as a result. In particular there is an tension between unnessecary caesarian sections, and the obstetrician only being called in when the baby is in dire straits.
This has been the case for decades and is one reason that I am not an obstetrician. I couldn't work in that sort of environment.
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Re: The end of the Keir show – politicalbetting.com
All Sunak and Hunt did was cook the books.Sunak’s inheritance was far worse than Starmer’s. Sunak and Hunt had started steadying the ship. Sunak inherited the Truss clusterfuck on top of Covid and Ukraine.Starmer had by far the worst economic inheritance of any new PM since 1945.Not exactly a hard thing to have done considering Rishi was at the end of a terrible period of Johnsonism, Trussism, Covid, Ukraine and had a limited time due to a looming GE.Surely to shore up his legacy he's going to need to create one first.He lasted longer than Rishi...
It’s even more embarrassing for Starmer that he had a ridiculous majority, an improving economy, changes in immigration laws passed by the last government and has still managed to fail completely.
Re: The end of the Keir show – politicalbetting.com
I'll bet Germany are relieved Didier Drogba wasn't fifteen years younger.
Re: The end of the Keir show – politicalbetting.com
You're confusing Burnham with your mate Farage.He might as well go the whole hog and hold a referendum on making himself dictator and head of state.Burnham ought to bring in AV imo, the Australian voting system. Would be the best way to stop Reform.Needs a referendum.
In a polity without a written constitution, Reform only need to win once.
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Re: The end of the Keir show – politicalbetting.com
Hahahahaha. Sorry. I thought for a moment you were being serious.Starmer had by far the worst economic inheritance of any new PM since 1945.Not exactly a hard thing to have done considering Rishi was at the end of a terrible period of Johnsonism, Trussism, Covid, Ukraine and had a limited time due to a looming GE.Surely to shore up his legacy he's going to need to create one first.He lasted longer than Rishi...
It’s even more embarrassing for Starmer that he had a ridiculous majority, an improving economy, changes in immigration laws passed by the last government and has still managed to fail completely.
Re: The end of the Keir show – politicalbetting.com
Most voters have probably forgotten about the 2011 referendum. And we're a parliamentary democracy, not a referendum democracy. Do we really want hundreds of MPs elected on less than 30% of the vote at the next election?Burnham ought to bring in AV imo, the Australian voting system. Would be the best way to stop Reform.A system rejected by two thirds of the electorate in a referendum within living memory? It would open up many worm-cans.
He'd be better off proposing pretty much any other kind of electoral reform than AV.
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Re: The end of the Keir show – politicalbetting.com
Sunak’s inheritance was far worse than Starmer’s. Sunak and Hunt had started steadying the ship. Sunak inherited the Truss clusterfuck on top of Covid and Ukraine.Starmer had by far the worst economic inheritance of any new PM since 1945.Not exactly a hard thing to have done considering Rishi was at the end of a terrible period of Johnsonism, Trussism, Covid, Ukraine and had a limited time due to a looming GE.Surely to shore up his legacy he's going to need to create one first.He lasted longer than Rishi...
It’s even more embarrassing for Starmer that he had a ridiculous majority, an improving economy, changes in immigration laws passed by the last government and has still managed to fail completely.
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Re: The end of the Keir show – politicalbetting.com
That would be a clever move. Putting Ed in a position where he can't avoid taking a lot of flights, lol.I detest Burnham and fear him far more than Starmer in terms of the damage he could do to the country.He could make Milliband Foreign Secretary. Lots of private jet travel (a personal fave pastime) and signing things in gilded halls, and in theory a more senior job. And gets him the fuck away from DESNZ. If he refuses, he can be safely packed off to the back benches.
But, if there is not going to be a contest and Burnham is the new leader to be, then Starmer should resign on 22nd July, the day Parliament rises for the summer recess. I say this for the good of the country. Burnham will need time to get his house in order before he has to face Parliament. He will then have time to get his head round the financial sitation and the issues with various departments - especially defence - before he comes back with a programme in the Autumn. He shoudl reshuffle his cabinet as much as he sees necessary as soon as possible and then cancel holidays for his Ministers and get them working on his programme through the summer.
Like I say I detest him but right now I want him to do well as the country needs proper leadership and a proper, thought out programme for Government.
Oh and he should sack Miliband (although of course he won't)
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Re: The end of the Keir show – politicalbetting.com
These are really astonishing times. Starmer wins a huge majority and, within 2 years, is forced to resign by his own party on behalf of someone who has not even been an MP for more than a decade. This is done on the basis of no discernible platform or policy difference but simply the belief that one is capable of speaking to and relating to people and the other is not. It is an incredible gamble, not just for the Labour party but for the country.I would say desperate, rather than reckless.
I think all sensible people can only hope this works for the sake of the country but I am not sure reckless really covers it.
Reckless implies that there's a better option that is being passed over, but there isn't, really. For whatever reason the Cabinet is incredibly weak. There are no major political divides, because none of them have a clue.
And so, with such a complete lack of leadership they turn in desperation to the one person exhibits some motive force.
Re: The end of the Keir show – politicalbetting.com
Burnham ought to bring in AV imo, the Australian voting system. Would be the best way to stop Reform.
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