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Re: I’m sorry I haven’t a clue about this poll – politicalbetting.com
Steyer seems a decent bloke for a billionaire.
https://x.com/TomSteyer/status/2064502978325651884
...I have always been an optimist, and today, I remain an optimist. Nothing this campaign fought for is far off. These dreams we dreamt together are not too big. Californians deserve a life they can afford, and they deserve for it to be in California. My commitment to this fight didn’t start last November, and it doesn’t end today. Because the work of winning a better, fairer California is not the work of a campaign. It is the work of my life.
For now, we must stay focused. Donald Trump is the embodiment of the corporations’ craven, soulless, profit-first model of politics, and it is absolutely essential that his handpicked candidate does not hold the keys to California. It would be a travesty for Steve Hilton to win the governorship, and Californians must unite behind Xavier Becerra to ensure he does not.
To my supporters: Thank you for everything. When I promised to fight for you, that was not a campaign promise. It was just a promise. And I am a man of my word. I’m on your team forever. I wasn’t born a billionaire, I won’t die a billionaire, and I’ll spend the rest of my life working alongside you to dismantle a system that only benefits billionaires.
Today, my message to you is simple: Pay attention. Know what you deserve, and know who is on your side. Understand who the villains are, and say their names out loud. Continue to demand more from your leaders and your government, until they give you the California – and the country – you know you deserve. I will be with you all the way.
With gratitude,
Tom
https://x.com/TomSteyer/status/2064502978325651884
...I have always been an optimist, and today, I remain an optimist. Nothing this campaign fought for is far off. These dreams we dreamt together are not too big. Californians deserve a life they can afford, and they deserve for it to be in California. My commitment to this fight didn’t start last November, and it doesn’t end today. Because the work of winning a better, fairer California is not the work of a campaign. It is the work of my life.
For now, we must stay focused. Donald Trump is the embodiment of the corporations’ craven, soulless, profit-first model of politics, and it is absolutely essential that his handpicked candidate does not hold the keys to California. It would be a travesty for Steve Hilton to win the governorship, and Californians must unite behind Xavier Becerra to ensure he does not.
To my supporters: Thank you for everything. When I promised to fight for you, that was not a campaign promise. It was just a promise. And I am a man of my word. I’m on your team forever. I wasn’t born a billionaire, I won’t die a billionaire, and I’ll spend the rest of my life working alongside you to dismantle a system that only benefits billionaires.
Today, my message to you is simple: Pay attention. Know what you deserve, and know who is on your side. Understand who the villains are, and say their names out loud. Continue to demand more from your leaders and your government, until they give you the California – and the country – you know you deserve. I will be with you all the way.
With gratitude,
Tom
Nigelb
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Re: I’m sorry I haven’t a clue about this poll – politicalbetting.com
I don’t think it will stop being Reform friendly. In a country of 70 million people, and literally hundreds of thousands of impoverished, young, single men from the Boriswave, there are going to be an endless succession of sexual assaults, violence, police scandals and so on.The news has all been very Reform friendly over the last week. Harry Nowak, Northern Ireland (a bit late, I guess) and terrible immigration figures of net 100,000 p a if immigration is your thang.More In CommonLooks like Labour will need that Burnham bounce, assuming he wins Makerfield and becomes their leader
Reform extend their voting intention lead to 10pts this week, with Labour and the Tories tied for second place.
➡️ REF UK 30% (+1)
🌹 LAB 20% (-2)
🌳 CON 20% (-1)
🔶 LIB DEM 12% (nc)
🌍 GREEN 11% (+1)
❓OTH 3% (+1)
🟡 SNP 3% (+1)
N = 2,087 | Fieldwork 5-9/6 | Changes w/ 1/6
They won’t trouble the overall statistics but you don’t need more than one a week for the narrative to maintain or gain momentum. Labour have done a decent job on hotels and overall immigration but this is now baked in.
Eabhal
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Re: I’m sorry I haven’t a clue about this poll – politicalbetting.com
https://x.com/luketryl/status/2064614221120209409
But in a further sign of the different relationship between leader ratings and voting intention in multi party politics Farage’s personal net approval ratings drop to their lowest since the General Election on -20. Starmer is on -47, Polanski -25, Davey -10 and Badenoch - 8
Bye bye Farage
But in a further sign of the different relationship between leader ratings and voting intention in multi party politics Farage’s personal net approval ratings drop to their lowest since the General Election on -20. Starmer is on -47, Polanski -25, Davey -10 and Badenoch - 8
Bye bye Farage
Re: I’m sorry I haven’t a clue about this poll – politicalbetting.com
If all you want is to reduce the level of violence, just give the violent everything they want.The level of violence in Northern Ireland now is much, much, much lower than it was during the Troubles.A peace process that is built on giving the gangsters whatever they want?The Peace Process has been very successful. What alternative approach are you suggesting should’ve been taken?I will bet you supported all the concessions to the Men Of Violence and The Community Leaders for The Peace Process.Hello from Belfast where the great unwashed of Loyalism have declared an evening of rioting and house clearance.Our very own Kristalnacht, until rain stopped play.
There are I'm sure quite a few with Republican communities who would like to do their own but the orthodoxy that Irish Republicans love the asylum seekers and welcome them with open arms is strong. Some very burly looking community workers keeping locals from gathering....
I will lay it out and I suspect plenty a UK city is the same. We have had a lot of inward migration last 10 years from outside EU/wider Europe and its easy to stratify into its main groups:
Indians: Often come as families, work in tech and health. Younger members of family often seen in retail. Well integrated and have set up small clusters
West Africans: not clustered, seen all the time usually on way or going from the care homes and hospitals in which they work
Filipinos: Brought specifically in for the NHS over recent years
North East African. Somali, Sudanese. Disproportionately younger male, don't seem to be as much in the working population
Middle East Arab: Some families but disproportionately younger males,
The last two groups are the asylum seekers, the former three economic and legal migrants.
I will give you one guess where the social interaction issues with the natives lie.
Which sounds as if it disappoints you.
As I’ve pointed out before, this taught the Face Eating Leopards that threatening to eat faces, works.
The Community Leaders were carefully taught that representations to ministers would be ignored. A few death threats in the right place and *they* get called.
Tommy Lots Of Names formed the EDL to get the same thing. Look how he’s grown….
Feel proud - it should be a matter of celebration that education works.
You can see the success on TV.
The decent politicians (such as the ones who got some Nobel Prizes for the actual peace) have been sidelined. It’s all about how close you can get to violence and pretend it’s not you. 71 people in one toilet….
It’s been very successful at creating an Acceptable Level Of Violence.
You need to understand that this success includes the riots you just saw.
As I said, what alternative approach are you suggesting should’ve been taken? You’ve complained about the Process, but you’ve not suggested a different approach.
Now you are finding that the sacrifice required is people you care about.
Simple version - give the democratic politicians more. Give the Men Of Violence less.
Sure they’ll be upset. But is your response to the EDL violence just to give them what they want?
The immigrants will be out of the neighbourhoods in question within days. Once again, violence will have been given what it wants.
So there will be more violence.
Re: I’m sorry I haven’t a clue about this poll – politicalbetting.com
Jenrick has pulled off a remarkable double-whammy. Painted over children’s cartoons in an asylum centre, thereby putting off all decent Conservatives, and imported an eye-gouging maniac, thereby putting off… well pretty much everyone tbh.https://x.com/jessicaelgot/status/2064437272280187284Look at Northern Ireland on Monday and think about who was in charge of immigration when the arrested Sudanese was given indefinite leave to remain.
I didn’t meet anyone with a good word to say about Starmer (though a lot of people found it hard to articulate exactly why) but also a lot of doubts raised about Farage. Lowe was described more often as an anti-establishment figure. Again I found this surprising!
As Pb said at the time, Farage taking a load of Tories will I think come to be seen as a major misstep.
Allowing Jenrick to join Reform creates a whole set of very hard to answer questions because so often it comes down to Jenrick was the person responsible for that disaster
I can’t really see a path for him going forward.
Eabhal
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Re: I’m sorry I haven’t a clue about this poll – politicalbetting.com
I think you've fallen victim to misinformation. He didn't have ILR.https://x.com/jessicaelgot/status/2064437272280187284Look at Northern Ireland on Monday and think about who was in charge of immigration when the arrested Sudanese was given indefinite leave to remain.
I didn’t meet anyone with a good word to say about Starmer (though a lot of people found it hard to articulate exactly why) but also a lot of doubts raised about Farage. Lowe was described more often as an anti-establishment figure. Again I found this surprising!
As Pb said at the time, Farage taking a load of Tories will I think come to be seen as a major misstep.
Re: I’m sorry I haven’t a clue about this poll – politicalbetting.com
More In CommonLooks like Labour will need that Burnham bounce, assuming he wins Makerfield and becomes their leader
Reform extend their voting intention lead to 10pts this week, with Labour and the Tories tied for second place.
➡️ REF UK 30% (+1)
🌹 LAB 20% (-2)
🌳 CON 20% (-1)
🔶 LIB DEM 12% (nc)
🌍 GREEN 11% (+1)
❓OTH 3% (+1)
🟡 SNP 3% (+1)
N = 2,087 | Fieldwork 5-9/6 | Changes w/ 1/6
HYUFD
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Re: I’m sorry I haven’t a clue about this poll – politicalbetting.com
My interpretation of the Maine poll is that it shows a partisan rally around the flag effect.
There is no sense of a common accepted reality in the US anymore, so the default assumption is that a scandal is fake news from the other side to undermine one of the good guys on your side. A really big scandal - such as Cuomo - will come to be accepted when it is reported by trusted sources on your own side of the partisan divide.
So the response is, I haven't heard about this scandal, it must be faked by the Trumpers, I should support this guy from these fake attacks.
It's really not a healthy place for a democracy.
Given the complete lack of polling reaction to Farage's secret £5m crypto gift, you can see that Britain is well on the road to heading in the same direction.
There is no sense of a common accepted reality in the US anymore, so the default assumption is that a scandal is fake news from the other side to undermine one of the good guys on your side. A really big scandal - such as Cuomo - will come to be accepted when it is reported by trusted sources on your own side of the partisan divide.
So the response is, I haven't heard about this scandal, it must be faked by the Trumpers, I should support this guy from these fake attacks.
It's really not a healthy place for a democracy.
Given the complete lack of polling reaction to Farage's secret £5m crypto gift, you can see that Britain is well on the road to heading in the same direction.
Re: I’m sorry I haven’t a clue about this poll – politicalbetting.com
And now inching back up. For the time being they’ve arrested it.Let me introduce you to the concept of a single data point.More In CommonThis can’t be true. The PB brains trust has said Reform are in a state of decline.
Reform extend their voting intention lead to 10pts this week, with Labour and the Tories tied for second place.
➡️ REF UK 30% (+1)
🌹 LAB 20% (-2)
🌳 CON 20% (-1)
🔶 LIB DEM 12% (nc)
🌍 GREEN 11% (+1)
❓OTH 3% (+1)
🟡 SNP 3% (+1)
N = 2,087 | Fieldwork 5-9/6 | Changes w/ 1/6
Reform are clearly well below their peak when it comes average polling.
Of course people predicting decline once they’ve started to slip in the polls is wisdom after the event.
Taz
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Re: I’m sorry I haven’t a clue about this poll – politicalbetting.com
More In CommonThis can’t be true. The PB brains trust has said Reform are in a state of decline.
Reform extend their voting intention lead to 10pts this week, with Labour and the Tories tied for second place.
➡️ REF UK 30% (+1)
🌹 LAB 20% (-2)
🌳 CON 20% (-1)
🔶 LIB DEM 12% (nc)
🌍 GREEN 11% (+1)
❓OTH 3% (+1)
🟡 SNP 3% (+1)
N = 2,087 | Fieldwork 5-9/6 | Changes w/ 1/6
Taz
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