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Re: Could the World Cup cost Labour the Makerfield by-election? – politicalbetting.com
If nothing else, it will be material for prolonged PB debate on whether the circumstances or result of the match did affect the turnout or result of the by-election. What's not to like?
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Re: Could the World Cup cost Labour the Makerfield by-election? – politicalbetting.com
1st, like Burnham in a "who's got the biggest sense of entitlement" contest.
Could the World Cup cost Labour the Makerfield by-election? – politicalbetting.com
Could the World Cup cost Labour the Makerfield by-election? – politicalbetting.com
Yesterday I was scheduling my availability next week for work, editing PB, and watching the World Cup next week and I realised that England’s first match at the World Cup is against Croatia the night before the Makerfield by-election.
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Re: Could the World Cup cost Labour the Makerfield by-election? – politicalbetting.com
Er - why the past tense for Afghanistan?As Afghanistan and Libya were such beautiful paradises of human rights under the Taliban and Bin Laden and Gaddafi of courseNato is not defensive. It is responsible for the destruction of Afghanistan and Libya and a key tool of US imperialism, the greatest threat to peace in the world.Your final comment: yes, that’s what I was thinking when I read those Labour MPs’ claims.The Longest Suicide Note In History was what created 1983.
Much easier to blame a football match than admit the reality - they were not popular enough to win because they had overseen a total mess up of the economy. (Which was, in fairness, not entirely their fault.)
Just as the Labour left constantly blame the Falklands War for 1983, when actually it was mostly due to their own terrible mistakes.
I remember, as a child, a trade union activist on stage at the (televised) Labour conference arguing that the U.K. should leave NATO and the EEC and join COMECON and the Warsaw Pact.
The Falklands War made the Conservative majority a bit bigger.
Discuss!
https://socialistworker.co.uk/in-depth/why-britain-should-leave-nato/
ydoethur
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Yes, but she did Engineering.Didn't Vorderman go to Cambridge?Burnham's different, Cambridge educated self belief is very different to other types of self belief.Because we’ve never had one of those before.1st, like Burnham in a "who's got the biggest sense of entitlement" contest.i think it is good we have a politician with lots of self belief and not plagued with self doubt.
Nothing like having to engage with physical reality all the time to keep you humble.
Yes, I did do physical sciences; why do you ask?
Re: Could the World Cup cost Labour the Makerfield by-election? – politicalbetting.com
As Afghanistan and Libya were such beautiful paradises of human rights under the Taliban and Bin Laden and Gaddafi of courseNato is not defensive. It is responsible for the destruction of Afghanistan and Libya and a key tool of US imperialism, the greatest threat to peace in the world.Your final comment: yes, that’s what I was thinking when I read those Labour MPs’ claims.The Longest Suicide Note In History was what created 1983.
Much easier to blame a football match than admit the reality - they were not popular enough to win because they had overseen a total mess up of the economy. (Which was, in fairness, not entirely their fault.)
Just as the Labour left constantly blame the Falklands War for 1983, when actually it was mostly due to their own terrible mistakes.
I remember, as a child, a trade union activist on stage at the (televised) Labour conference arguing that the U.K. should leave NATO and the EEC and join COMECON and the Warsaw Pact.
The Falklands War made the Conservative majority a bit bigger.
Discuss!
https://socialistworker.co.uk/in-depth/why-britain-should-leave-nato/
HYUFD
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Re: Could the World Cup cost Labour the Makerfield by-election? – politicalbetting.com
I suspect the impact of the 1970 world cup on the General Election is a myth.Immigration was more the 1974 general election when even Enoch Powell abandoned the Tories, 1970 was yes mainly the poor economy
Immigration and economics drove it. And the inaccurate opinion polls probably depressed Labour voter turnout a little bit.
HYUFD
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To quote BoneyM, "oh those Russians!"What about terrorists who also support the Tories?Indeed. Most of the COVID fraud went to Tory party cronies. Only a small part will have ended up with terrorists.Quick skim read of the Telegraph article but what it actually seems to say is that because the Covid funds were badly designed, handled and monitored there was;Billions in aid handed to terrorists and criminalsTelegraph comments show the intelligence of their readers, blaming the current govt for fraud commited 5-10 years ago under the Tories and covered up in 2023 by the Tories.
Secret dossier reveals foreign aid and Covid relief loans were appropriated by gangs and hostile states
Terrorists, hostile states and gangsters have been given more than £28bn of taxpayers’ money, including through aid payments, according to a secret government report.
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More than £28bn ended up in the hands of those wishing to harm Britain between 2015 and 2021, according to the report, which was commissioned and produced by the Cabinet Office but was buried during the previous government.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/bf51632ce387959b
Gift link so no paywall.
Wide scale fraud, much undetected at the time.
Some, perhaps but not definitely most, but certainly a large amount was done by organised criminal gangs.
Many of those criminal gangs were Eastern European.
Some of those gangs had links to terrorists and people smugglers and others in the Middle East.
Therefore some of the money may well have reached these groups.
So in conclusion: up to £28 Bn
misappropriated but no way to know how much of that actual ended up with “The Baddies!”
Peter.
Re: Could the World Cup cost Labour the Makerfield by-election? – politicalbetting.com
'Rules requiring public bodies such as schools and hospitals to promote equality when making decisions should be scrapped, Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch will say in a speech on Tuesday.She's going to be furious when she finds out who was Minister for Women and Equalities between October 2022 and July 2024.
In what the party says is the first step in a wider programme to "restore common sense", Badenoch will argue that the Public Sector Equality Duty has been used to promote "dangerous and divisive agendas".
She will say it has "become a minefield that exposes almost every significant public decision to legal challenge".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy5vyqykpx5o
Re: Could the World Cup cost Labour the Makerfield by-election? – politicalbetting.com
I suspect the impact of the 1970 world cup on the General Election is a myth.
Immigration and economics drove it. And the inaccurate opinion polls probably depressed Labour voter turnout a little bit.
Immigration and economics drove it. And the inaccurate opinion polls probably depressed Labour voter turnout a little bit.



