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Why is Britain's economy in the toilet? Answer number 4,982:


"Publicly traded companies in Britain must have, or “explain to the regulator” why they do not have:

- A minimum of 40% women on their board of directors
- A woman CEO, chairman of the board, CFO and/or Senior Independent Director
- A board member who is an ethnic minority

Why is anybody confused about why so few companies want to list here and so few promising startups scale up here?

Would you agree to put people in charge of your company on the basis of their sex or race in order to meet a diversity quota?

These rules were brought in by the Conservative Party in 2022, BTW."

https://x.com/s8mb/status/2033445415555645442?s=20

Note, again, the explicitly racist exclusion of "whites" in the rules

Can you list all the FTSE100 boards with no white members given they are apparently excluded? I'll give you a clue, you should be able to type the full list in no time at all.

Which proves absolutely fuck all, as you know - or you are too stupid to read the tweet and see the reference I am citing

This is racist discrimination against white people. And it's just one example of hundreds, maybe thousands, all in the name of Diversity and Wokeness

We are surely the first race and civilisation in history to discriminate AGAINST ourselves, and in such overt, destructive ways. The backlash, if it comes, will be ugly indeed, and entirely unnecessary

Grumpy old man moans about modernity is a story as old as time itself.

A truly devastating response. I am so crushed I may have to stop commenting for the rest of the day

Rarely have I been more keen for one of your posts to be true.

I am at the recycling centre. I find going to the recycling centre oddly satisfying. I’m trying to work out why

1. I’m doing something worthy
2. It gives me a little hit of community spirit
3. I am genuinely getting rid of annoying junk, which pleases

Inside me there is some tiny tiny centrist dad. I think this - recycling - is the one time his reedy little voice gets heard. It’s the one time I feel like you, or @kinabalu or @OnlyLivingBoy or the rest of the unutterably dreary rabble of witless liberal bores that dominates this dying forum

Also, it is an achievable physical task which has an end goal which we can see when it has been achieved - this is something we are hard-wired to feel satisfaction for, but which we get precious few opportunities to experience nowadays.

Tice pitches that people should pay the minimum possible Tax, to cover up his own nefarious activities.

Whether they break the Law or not, Tax avoidance is as bad as Tax evasion in my eyes and always has been.

Tice may need to explain to his core vote the C and D categories who will rely more on public services than most, that by choice he will be destroying any concept of public services

That in part defines a reason why well off and wealthy do lean left and vote left. It is because we believe in equality of opportunity irrespective of what we were born in to, the polar opposite of the silver spoon brigade, but that wealth earned should be distributed via tax to the less well off, and inherited wealth should certainly be more equally distributed.

That does not allow the NEET state Boris, Truss and Sunak created however.

I will take to my grave my time spent in Sweden when Olaf Palme was in power, a high tax, world class public service system that rewarded enterprise and deliver hope and prosperity. A generation who glady contributed to the wonderful services provided by the State for the benefit of everyone.

One assumes you don't have an ISA then.

No never had one, never will have one.

Some of us have ethics

(FPT) OK, I now believe this is a wind up account.

I've never had one.

Never wished to have one.

I have gone against financial advisors advice. I have other long term stock options and frankly couldn't give a shit what anyone else thinks.

Life isn't all about screwing the system for every penny.

I pay more than my fair whack.

My partner has iSAs we disagree about it.

Evasion is evasion

Avoidance is avoidance

Each to their own

I neither evade nor knowingly avoid.

Simple

Do you have a pension?

Yes

State
Private

Presumably you won't be exercising the tax free lump sum option when your private pension starts ?

It has
I have
Thats not evasion
It's available to anybody

So are ISAs.

ISAs were specifically invented by the government to make saving easier for ordinary people. They (the government) even introduced rules that mean financial advisors have a duty to advocate them.

Tice pitches that people should pay the minimum possible Tax, to cover up his own nefarious activities.

Whether they break the Law or not, Tax avoidance is as bad as Tax evasion in my eyes and always has been.

Tice may need to explain to his core vote the C and D categories who will rely more on public services than most, that by choice he will be destroying any concept of public services

That in part defines a reason why well off and wealthy do lean left and vote left. It is because we believe in equality of opportunity irrespective of what we were born in to, the polar opposite of the silver spoon brigade, but that wealth earned should be distributed via tax to the less well off, and inherited wealth should certainly be more equally distributed.

That does not allow the NEET state Boris, Truss and Sunak created however.

I will take to my grave my time spent in Sweden when Olaf Palme was in power, a high tax, world class public service system that rewarded enterprise and deliver hope and prosperity. A generation who glady contributed to the wonderful services provided by the State for the benefit of everyone.

One assumes you don't have an ISA then.

No never had one, never will have one.

Some of us have ethics

(FPT) OK, I now believe this is a wind up account.

I've never had one.

Never wished to have one.

I have gone against financial advisors advice. I have other long term stock options and frankly couldn't give a shit what anyone else thinks.

Life isn't all about screwing the system for every penny.

I pay more than my fair whack.

My partner has iSAs we disagree about it.

Evasion is evasion

Avoidance is avoidance

Each to their own

I neither evade nor knowingly avoid.

Simple

Do you have a pension?

Yes

State
Private

Presumably you won't be exercising the tax free lump sum option when your private pension starts ?

It has
I have
Thats not evasion
It's available to anybody

So on ISAs: "No never had one, never will have one. Some of us have ethics"

but on pension tax free lump sums: "Thats not evasion. It's available to anybody"

You couldn't make less sense if you tried.

.

Tice pitches that people should pay the minimum possible Tax, to cover up his own nefarious activities.

Whether they break the Law or not, Tax avoidance is as bad as Tax evasion in my eyes and always has been.

Tice may need to explain to his core vote the C and D categories who will rely more on public services than most, that by choice he will be destroying any concept of public services

That in part defines a reason why well off and wealthy do lean left and vote left. It is because we believe in equality of opportunity irrespective of what we were born in to, the polar opposite of the silver spoon brigade, but that wealth earned should be distributed via tax to the less well off, and inherited wealth should certainly be more equally distributed.

That does not allow the NEET state Boris, Truss and Sunak created however.

I will take to my grave my time spent in Sweden when Olaf Palme was in power, a high tax, world class public service system that rewarded enterprise and deliver hope and prosperity. A generation who glady contributed to the wonderful services provided by the State for the benefit of everyone.

One assumes you don't have an ISA then.

No never had one, never will have one.

Some of us have ethics

(FPT) OK, I now believe this is a wind up account.

Of course it is! The account has done nothing else but trash talk Kemi Badenoch for weeks on end. No-one can be that single minded, (our dear Hyufd excluded of course).

I say what I think aboutvBadenoch

I praise other Tories, current and past.

Badenoch is a gibshite with an aggression issue who is not fit to lead any Party.

Well you're not a real person, and if I'm wrong and you are then that's pretty horrible for you really.

Others on here know I'm a real person otherwise I'd be the best fucking AI bot ever created.

I for one, can vouch that @Brixian59 is entirely real, and it's been real for ages

It's not you again, it it ?

Tice pitches that people should pay the minimum possible Tax, to cover up his own nefarious activities.

Whether they break the Law or not, Tax avoidance is as bad as Tax evasion in my eyes and always has been.

Tice may need to explain to his core vote the C and D categories who will rely more on public services than most, that by choice he will be destroying any concept of public services

That in part defines a reason why well off and wealthy do lean left and vote left. It is because we believe in equality of opportunity irrespective of what we were born in to, the polar opposite of the silver spoon brigade, but that wealth earned should be distributed via tax to the less well off, and inherited wealth should certainly be more equally distributed.

That does not allow the NEET state Boris, Truss and Sunak created however.

I will take to my grave my time spent in Sweden when Olaf Palme was in power, a high tax, world class public service system that rewarded enterprise and deliver hope and prosperity. A generation who glady contributed to the wonderful services provided by the State for the benefit of everyone.

One assumes you don't have an ISA then.

No never had one, never will have one.

Some of us have ethics

(FPT) OK, I now believe this is a wind up account.

Of course it is! The account has done nothing else but trash talk Kemi Badenoch for weeks on end. No-one can be that single minded, (our dear Hyufd excluded of course).

I say what I think aboutvBadenoch

I praise other Tories, current and past.

Badenoch is a gibshite with an aggression issue who is not fit to lead any Party.

Well you're not a real person, and if I'm wrong and you are then that's pretty horrible for you really.

Others on here know I'm a real person otherwise I'd be the best fucking AI bot ever created.

Tice pitches that people should pay the minimum possible Tax, to cover up his own nefarious activities.

Whether they break the Law or not, Tax avoidance is as bad as Tax evasion in my eyes and always has been.

Tice may need to explain to his core vote the C and D categories who will rely more on public services than most, that by choice he will be destroying any concept of public services

That in part defines a reason why well off and wealthy do lean left and vote left. It is because we believe in equality of opportunity irrespective of what we were born in to, the polar opposite of the silver spoon brigade, but that wealth earned should be distributed via tax to the less well off, and inherited wealth should certainly be more equally distributed.

That does not allow the NEET state Boris, Truss and Sunak created however.

I will take to my grave my time spent in Sweden when Olaf Palme was in power, a high tax, world class public service system that rewarded enterprise and deliver hope and prosperity. A generation who glady contributed to the wonderful services provided by the State for the benefit of everyone.

One assumes you don't have an ISA then.

No never had one, never will have one.

Some of us have ethics

(FPT) OK, I now believe this is a wind up account.

I've never had one.

Never wished to have one.

I have gone against financial advisors advice. I have other long term stock options and frankly couldn't give a shit what anyone else thinks.

Life isn't all about screwing the system for every penny.

I pay more than my fair whack.

My partner has iSAs we disagree about it.

Evasion is evasion

Avoidance is avoidance

Each to their own

I neither evade nor knowingly avoid.

Simple

Do you have a pension?

Yes

State
Private

Both pensions and ISA's are tax wrappers to encourage saving. Different rules but certainly morally equivalent.

I think there is something in the argument that collectively such schemes are too generous to high earners but that is up to the state to change the rules rather than some weird and illogical self moral restraint from taxpayers.

With ISAs, the specific argument was that by limiting the amounts, the relative benefit went to poorer people. Notably, this view was accepted by all the parties (I think - certainly all the major ones) in Parliament. Bit like the personal tax allowance being a fixed sum.

Parents can give kids each a £162k plus capital appreciation head start by the age of 18.
As adults we can shelter a further £20k per year for life.

It doesn't seem a strong argument. The limits weirdly fit a typical MPs lifestyle very nicely indeed.

Tice pitches that people should pay the minimum possible Tax, to cover up his own nefarious activities.

Whether they break the Law or not, Tax avoidance is as bad as Tax evasion in my eyes and always has been.

Tice may need to explain to his core vote the C and D categories who will rely more on public services than most, that by choice he will be destroying any concept of public services

That in part defines a reason why well off and wealthy do lean left and vote left. It is because we believe in equality of opportunity irrespective of what we were born in to, the polar opposite of the silver spoon brigade, but that wealth earned should be distributed via tax to the less well off, and inherited wealth should certainly be more equally distributed.

That does not allow the NEET state Boris, Truss and Sunak created however.

I will take to my grave my time spent in Sweden when Olaf Palme was in power, a high tax, world class public service system that rewarded enterprise and deliver hope and prosperity. A generation who glady contributed to the wonderful services provided by the State for the benefit of everyone.

One assumes you don't have an ISA then.

No never had one, never will have one.

Some of us have ethics

(FPT) OK, I now believe this is a wind up account.

I've never had one.

Never wished to have one.

I have gone against financial advisors advice. I have other long term stock options and frankly couldn't give a shit what anyone else thinks.

Life isn't all about screwing the system for every penny.

I pay more than my fair whack.

My partner has iSAs we disagree about it.

Evasion is evasion

Avoidance is avoidance

Each to their own

I neither evade nor knowingly avoid.

Simple

Do you have a pension?

Yes

State
Private

Presumably you won't be exercising the tax free lump sum option when your private pension starts ?

Or the tax free element if not taken as a lump sum.

I took lump sum

You avoided paying as much tax as you could have paid. That's perfectly legal. You could still send a cheque to the Treasury for the tax you weren't asked to pay.

I pay the treasury more than most pro rata my income, I can sleep at night