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Re: Thistle do nicely, a 16% return in 9 months? – politicalbetting.com
Zelensky’s plane just left Brussels, heading for Washington.
https://x.com/airnavradar/status/1957117951426822169
https://x.com/airnavradar/status/1957117951426822169
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Re: Thistle do nicely, a 16% return in 9 months? – politicalbetting.com
51 years ago to this very date I went to my first soccer game. 2-0 down in fifteen minutes, at home. Lost 3-0
It’s easy supporting a successful club. Supporting a perennial loser is a trial and test of character.
It’s easy supporting a successful club. Supporting a perennial loser is a trial and test of character.
Taz
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Re: Thistle do nicely, a 16% return in 9 months? – politicalbetting.com
Well I'm not yet. But it could happen.Right on, grandad 👍The dogs ignore the whistle, you mean? I'd like to believe so but the whistlers must think otherwise.Don’t worry. The PB centrist Dad brigade is out in force to Pooh-pooh it while burnishing their ‘right on’ credentials. Most people just don’t give such stuff the time of day. 👍Shoplifting and phone snatching is up. Most crimes and crime in general inc violent crime is down.When supermarkets are putting security tags on milk and cheese, then we have a trust problem."Rupert Lowe MPThe loss of our "high trust" society due to immigration. I've noticed this one taking off like a rocket in right wing populist discourse. High trust is code for something else of course.
@RupertLowe10
Uncontrolled mass immigration has entirely undermined our high-trust society."
https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/1957074571762213091
https://x.com/robprogressive/status/1956765654314361211
If supermarkets in certain areas have to choose between looking like Haddows in Glasgow or moving to online deliveries only, then we all lose out.
Somehow this is meant to support assertions that mass immigration has undermined our high-trust society.
It's dog-whistling.
Perhaps they’re just savvy enough to see it for what it is and not indulge it.
Ok so you're telling me that politicians like Lowe are wasting their time putting out all this anti-immigrant shit.
That's good. I can relax.
I suspect political obsessives see patterns that they want to see rather than are actually there.Well I'm not yet. But it could happen.Right on, grandad 👍The dogs ignore the whistle, you mean? I'd like to believe so but the whistlers must think otherwise.Don’t worry. The PB centrist Dad brigade is out in force to Pooh-pooh it while burnishing their ‘right on’ credentials. Most people just don’t give such stuff the time of day. 👍Shoplifting and phone snatching is up. Most crimes and crime in general inc violent crime is down.When supermarkets are putting security tags on milk and cheese, then we have a trust problem."Rupert Lowe MPThe loss of our "high trust" society due to immigration. I've noticed this one taking off like a rocket in right wing populist discourse. High trust is code for something else of course.
@RupertLowe10
Uncontrolled mass immigration has entirely undermined our high-trust society."
https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/1957074571762213091
https://x.com/robprogressive/status/1956765654314361211
If supermarkets in certain areas have to choose between looking like Haddows in Glasgow or moving to online deliveries only, then we all lose out.
Somehow this is meant to support assertions that mass immigration has undermined our high-trust society.
It's dog-whistling.
Perhaps they’re just savvy enough to see it for what it is and not indulge it.
Ok so you're telling me that politicians like Lowe are wasting their time putting out all this anti-immigrant shit.
That's good. I can relax.
How many people do you reckon know who Rupert Lowe is, let alone hear his pronouncements.
Taz
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Re: Thistle do nicely, a 16% return in 9 months? – politicalbetting.com
Trump, MAGA and many Americans generally think that the USA is already at war and being attacked along its southern border from illegal immigration and from within by 'liberalism'.Interesting questions. On economic might, Trumpism is principally concerned about greater USA wealth, and has mercantilist leanings. Lots more to be said, but IANAE.So where do you think he thinks the USA should be directing its economic and military might?Surely something must be in motion as half of Europes leaders aren’t going to go all the way to the US for nothing.What's in motion is this. Trumpism thinks that the western alliance should be a European thing, not a USA + Europe + Canada thing. The USA sphere of influence is wanted elsewhere.
Trumpism also thinks that Russia's sphere of influence should include part of eastern Europe, boundaries in the long run to be decided by Russia and Europe, not USA.
Western Europe wants the alliance to be the whole of NATO, including of course the USA. The USA can abandon Europe whenever it likes but is not yet ready to make it undeniably obvious that it has switched sides. The frog boils more slowly than that.
Western Europe is wondering how to get ready for that day. And is currently temporising.
Military might? Trump likes a big military but doesn't want to fight as he doesn't want any dead USA soldiers. The might's first aim is deterrence. My next guesses are these: he wants out of Europe; he wants out of middle east even ultimately Israel except for a deterrent guarantee; he wants his military to protect the interest of the USA in a world of big power bloc spheres of influence.
Further guesses:
Taiwan - Trumpism won't support, it's China's if they want it.
Canada/Greenland: these two targets 100% affirm the 'USA spheres of influence' view.
Israel: One state solution. protected by USA and Israel's nuclear deterrent. (But in fact insoluble).
Europe: Not to be USA's direct concern. Two big blocs - Russia+as yet undetermined parts of eastern Europe; and European NATO/EU area.
International Order: No concern of USA military. International order is for losers.
(I don't support any of this, but I think Trumpism is broadly along these lines. the current Ukraine/Russia pantomime is WRT to overall picture a little local issue about where the Russia bloc line is drawn in Europe. Trumpism doesn't care about the detail of this.)
They're not entirely wrong.
Re: Thistle do nicely, a 16% return in 9 months? – politicalbetting.com
There is a difference between believing low level crime such as the above has increased. (But Fraser Nelson told us we’ve never had it so good !) and people buying into the low trust society all being down to migrants.Vs how many people see increased security measures in supermarkets and fare evasion on public transport.Well I'm not yet. But it could happen.Right on, grandad 👍The dogs ignore the whistle, you mean? I'd like to believe so but the whistlers must think otherwise.Don’t worry. The PB centrist Dad brigade is out in force to Pooh-pooh it while burnishing their ‘right on’ credentials. Most people just don’t give such stuff the time of day. 👍Shoplifting and phone snatching is up. Most crimes and crime in general inc violent crime is down.When supermarkets are putting security tags on milk and cheese, then we have a trust problem."Rupert Lowe MPThe loss of our "high trust" society due to immigration. I've noticed this one taking off like a rocket in right wing populist discourse. High trust is code for something else of course.
@RupertLowe10
Uncontrolled mass immigration has entirely undermined our high-trust society."
https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/1957074571762213091
https://x.com/robprogressive/status/1956765654314361211
If supermarkets in certain areas have to choose between looking like Haddows in Glasgow or moving to online deliveries only, then we all lose out.
Somehow this is meant to support assertions that mass immigration has undermined our high-trust society.
It's dog-whistling.
Perhaps they’re just savvy enough to see it for what it is and not indulge it.
Ok so you're telling me that politicians like Lowe are wasting their time putting out all this anti-immigrant shit.
That's good. I can relax.I suspect political obsessives see patterns that they want to see rather than are actually there.Well I'm not yet. But it could happen.Right on, grandad 👍The dogs ignore the whistle, you mean? I'd like to believe so but the whistlers must think otherwise.Don’t worry. The PB centrist Dad brigade is out in force to Pooh-pooh it while burnishing their ‘right on’ credentials. Most people just don’t give such stuff the time of day. 👍Shoplifting and phone snatching is up. Most crimes and crime in general inc violent crime is down.When supermarkets are putting security tags on milk and cheese, then we have a trust problem."Rupert Lowe MPThe loss of our "high trust" society due to immigration. I've noticed this one taking off like a rocket in right wing populist discourse. High trust is code for something else of course.
@RupertLowe10
Uncontrolled mass immigration has entirely undermined our high-trust society."
https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/1957074571762213091
https://x.com/robprogressive/status/1956765654314361211
If supermarkets in certain areas have to choose between looking like Haddows in Glasgow or moving to online deliveries only, then we all lose out.
Somehow this is meant to support assertions that mass immigration has undermined our high-trust society.
It's dog-whistling.
Perhaps they’re just savvy enough to see it for what it is and not indulge it.
Ok so you're telling me that politicians like Lowe are wasting their time putting out all this anti-immigrant shit.
That's good. I can relax.
How many people do you reckon know who Rupert Lowe is, let alone hear his pronouncements.
Clearly the authorities don’t care greatly about some low level crimes.
If they don’t give a fuck that’s the problem.
https://x.com/rcolvile/status/1957094911087419650?s=61
Taz
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Re: Thistle do nicely, a 16% return in 9 months? – politicalbetting.com
Interesting questions. On economic might, Trumpism is principally concerned about greater USA wealth, and has mercantilist leanings. Lots more to be said, but IANAE.So where do you think he thinks the USA should be directing its economic and military might?Surely something must be in motion as half of Europes leaders aren’t going to go all the way to the US for nothing.What's in motion is this. Trumpism thinks that the western alliance should be a European thing, not a USA + Europe + Canada thing. The USA sphere of influence is wanted elsewhere.
Trumpism also thinks that Russia's sphere of influence should include part of eastern Europe, boundaries in the long run to be decided by Russia and Europe, not USA.
Western Europe wants the alliance to be the whole of NATO, including of course the USA. The USA can abandon Europe whenever it likes but is not yet ready to make it undeniably obvious that it has switched sides. The frog boils more slowly than that.
Western Europe is wondering how to get ready for that day. And is currently temporising.
Military might? Trump likes a big military but doesn't want to fight as he doesn't want any dead USA soldiers. The might's first aim is deterrence. My next guesses are these: he wants out of Europe; he wants out of middle east even ultimately Israel except for a deterrent guarantee; he wants his military to protect the interest of the USA in a world of big power bloc spheres of influence.
Further guesses:
Taiwan - Trumpism won't support, it's China's if they want it.
Canada/Greenland: these two targets 100% affirm the 'USA spheres of influence' view.
Israel: One state solution. protected by USA and Israel's nuclear deterrent. (But in fact insoluble).
Europe: Not to be USA's direct concern. Two big blocs - Russia+as yet undetermined parts of eastern Europe; and European NATO/EU area.
International Order: No concern of USA military. International order is for losers.
(I don't support any of this, but I think Trumpism is broadly along these lines. the current Ukraine/Russia pantomime is WRT to overall picture a little local issue about where the Russia bloc line is drawn in Europe. Trumpism doesn't care about the detail of this.)
Re: Thistle do nicely, a 16% return in 9 months? – politicalbetting.com
Someone gets the reference 👍You should never ignore a Pooh-Pooh. I knew someone once who...*insert Blackadder YouTube video here*It's quite amusing. There's no need to pooh-pooh anything; this one is self-collapsing afaics.Don’t worry. The PB centrist Dad brigade is out in force to Pooh-pooh it while burnishing their ‘right on’ credentials. Most people just don’t give such stuff the time of day. 👍Shoplifting and phone snatching is up. Most crimes and crime in general inc violent crime is down.When supermarkets are putting security tags on milk and cheese, then we have a trust problem."Rupert Lowe MPThe loss of our "high trust" society due to immigration. I've noticed this one taking off like a rocket in right wing populist discourse. High trust is code for something else of course.
@RupertLowe10
Uncontrolled mass immigration has entirely undermined our high-trust society."
https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/1957074571762213091
https://x.com/robprogressive/status/1956765654314361211
If supermarkets in certain areas have to choose between looking like Haddows in Glasgow or moving to online deliveries only, then we all lose out.
Somehow this is meant to support assertions that mass immigration has undermined our high-trust society.
It's dog-whistling.
The "locking down milk" photo is fake. It's from 2022 when one of the blues (Boris?) was in power, was from Tesco who said back then that the security tags were put on by mistake. AFAICS he's pretending it's current ("now"), or perhaps he believes his stuff.
The chap seems in practice to be as gormless as Fizzy Lizzy, like most of them.
I've had a look this afternoon at Farage's right hand Tiktok man that the Guardian had a little go at this morning, and he's the same.
Taz
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Re: Thistle do nicely, a 16% return in 9 months? – politicalbetting.com
Being such a prolific landlord, you're missing a real trick not charging rent for the space Liz Truss occupies in your head.It's quite amusing. There's no need to pooh-pooh anything; this one is self-collapsing afaics.Don’t worry. The PB centrist Dad brigade is out in force to Pooh-pooh it while burnishing their ‘right on’ credentials. Most people just don’t give such stuff the time of day. 👍Shoplifting and phone snatching is up. Most crimes and crime in general inc violent crime is down.When supermarkets are putting security tags on milk and cheese, then we have a trust problem."Rupert Lowe MPThe loss of our "high trust" society due to immigration. I've noticed this one taking off like a rocket in right wing populist discourse. High trust is code for something else of course.
@RupertLowe10
Uncontrolled mass immigration has entirely undermined our high-trust society."
https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/1957074571762213091
https://x.com/robprogressive/status/1956765654314361211
If supermarkets in certain areas have to choose between looking like Haddows in Glasgow or moving to online deliveries only, then we all lose out.
Somehow this is meant to support assertions that mass immigration has undermined our high-trust society.
It's dog-whistling.
The "locking down milk" photo is fake. It's from 2022 when one of the blues (Boris?) was in power, was from Tesco who said back then that the security tags were put on by mistake. AFAICS he's pretending it's current ("now"), or perhaps he believes his stuff.
The chap seems in practice to be as gormless as Fizzy Lizzy, like most of them.
I've had a look this afternoon at Farage's right hand Tiktok man that the Guardian had a little go at this morning, and he's the same.
Re: Thistle do nicely, a 16% return in 9 months? – politicalbetting.com
Domestic consumption ?Probably isn't. But it's unusual for a foreign affairs bod to downplay the importance of foreign affairs.How is he wrong ?@atrupar.comAn interesting take from the SoS in charge of foreign affairs.
Marco Rubio: "Life in America on a daily basis will be largely unaffected whether there's peace in Ukraine or not. That's just a fact. We have a lot of issues we're focused on not just at home, but around the world."
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lwm5dmjobz2a
The good thing to come from this is Europe seems to be waking up to the fact the US is not reliable, is sidelining them, and they need to take our defence seriously.
I doubt many in the MAGA element care either way who wins. So we need to and Europe needs to work with the U.K. not try to work us over like they do in prior negotiations.
I suspect the US will be happy for the war to end on current lines and some form of peacekeeping in place in tbe occupied areas.
Taz
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Re: Thistle do nicely, a 16% return in 9 months? – politicalbetting.com
40 seconds of Russian supermarkets under sanctions showing brand substitution, knock-offs and grey imports:-The power of PB. That video has been removed for sanctions-busting or terrorism or whatever else flashed across the Home Secretary's frontal lobe.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/db8vut_9CjQ
