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Re: War? What is good for? Helping Starmer improve his ratings? – politicalbetting.com
2024 - two years after the Russian invasion of Ukraine precipitated an inflation crisis - was a year where every incumbent government lost re-election, with the sole exception of the FF-FG coalition in Ireland.Listening to the news of continuing attacks by Iran, and Israel into Beirut, together with the highly dangerous straits I just cannot see an early end to the crisisTWAO was highlighting the ever more serious economic consequences of this disastrous idiocy. Ships in an ever growing region cannot get their bunker fuel which nearly all comes from the Middle East. 3 ships have been damaged. None are getting through Hormuz. Oil production in the ME is grinding to a halt. A variety of essential products are simply not being produced or are being produced in much reduced quantities. Several eastern countries are already restricting the days on which you can use your vehicle. Some are down to a 4 day week. The urgency of bringing this madness to an end grows by the day. Its Washington and Israel that need regime change.
It is a dreadful position that is going to impact all of us and Starmer is finding out the hard way that the government of the day is held responsible for both the safety of its citizens and the economic effects
On a similar basis I think we should expect every election in 2028 to see the defeat of the incumbent government, save those insulated from economic reality by a massive corporate tax windfall.
Re: War? What is good for? Helping Starmer improve his ratings? – politicalbetting.com
And they were going to win it this year!Iran boycotts the World Cup.Oh dear, how sad, nevermind.
Re: War? What is good for? Helping Starmer improve his ratings? – politicalbetting.com
Consultation culture is out of control.Might I suggest that nothing ever gets done in the country because of the attitude that bank note design is “such a significant change” and a consultation with 44,000 is insufficient?Are they really doing this?That consultation is news to me, and a sample of 44k seems very low to make such a significant change.
"UK wildlife to replace historical figures like Churchill and Shakespeare on banknotes
King Charles' portrait will continue to appear on the next series of notes - but they will "showcase the UK's rich and varied wildlife"."
https://news.sky.com/story/uk-wildlife-to-replace-historical-figures-on-next-series-of-banknotes-13518137
How boring.
kle4
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Re: War? What is good for? Helping Starmer improve his ratings? – politicalbetting.com
A well reasoned response, thank you. The only quibble I have is that the chart IS statistical evidence (albeit by the back door). As in how likely is it that she would be the only one present for all these deaths?It’s very easy to sit here and go, ‘what about this, what about that, cases like this are hard,’ but at some point you have to make a decision. Guilty or not guilty. The way we do that is with a trial. Letby had a trial (and a second trial and multiple appeals). The (first) trial was of record length, about 10 months. The defence were able to challenge the list of babies thought to be murdered. As I understand it, the initial list of suspicious deaths was assembled blind to whether Letby was on shift and showed a clear pattern, backing up what local clinical staff had been saying for months, but of course you’re not going to charge Letby with murder in cases where you know she wasn’t there. The jury found her innocent with respect to some babies, so they clearly thought about the list of babies and the specifics of each charge.I know we disagree on this (to the extent that I am more open to this being a miscarriage of justice then you, I think). Have you read MD's reports on this in Private Eye? There is an awful lot that we DO know about how the trial unfolded and indeed on how the case against her came to be.Maybe her defence team were privy to a lot more information than we have…?I don't disagree with any of this. However, I do think that (a) her defence team made some inexplicable (to me anyway) decisions at the first trial and (b) may be enough to push her under the bar of reasonable doubt. Disclosure failures, particularly in criminal trials, are amongst the most serious procedural failings. You can't have a fair trial without discovery/disclosure. It's impossible.The inquiry is due to report soon.Looks like the venerable and rightly respected David Davis may be about to get his break in the Letby case.Big bit in Private Eye last week on this. Its potentially massive. And they are still running an inquiry based on how did we miss a murderer on the ward, when there is a chance that there was NO murderer, just poorly babies on an unsafe ward.
Police and CPS have confirmed that the Prosecution did not disclose that a key witness Professor Hindmarsh who worked at relevant Maternity Unit was himself under investigation for serious allegations of patient neglect and care from a period at Great Ormond Street Hospital.
This must raise ever further very serious doubts about the original conviction
No-one has ever explained where the insulin came from.
The new news is second order stuff. It’s not directly about the evidence against Letby. This doesn’t change the witness evidence about Letby’s behaviour, that Letby stole medical records, the notes Letby wrote to herself, or the other expert witnesses’ statements.it doesn’t change that the babies died when Letby was on duty and not when she wasn’t.
I don’t find the idea that the babies all died because it was an unsafe ward plausible. The deaths were unexpected, not of the illest babies, which is who you would you’d expect to be affected if this was just poor care. The defence at trial accepted that some of the babies must have been killed.
Why is the source of the insulin some big mystery?
The Post Office Horizon scandal was not about a shite IT system it was about human malfeasance, of which disclosure failures were amongst the most serious.
The media at the time portrayed the Letby shifts vs deaths chart as a slam dunk. It may not have been in the court room (I wasn't there). However the simple story of X babies' deaths were thought to be murder, the roster was checked and Lo! only Letby was on shift for all is not correct. When the case was being assembled deaths were added and removed, and ISTR some were removed because Letby wasn't on shift.
Time will tell and I hope for all concerned that justice is done. I don't think we are there yet, though. Cases like this are hard. There is an example from the Netherlands were a nurse was convicted of multiple accounts of murder and then later exonerated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucia_de_Berk_case
The de Berk case involved the presentation, and misrepresentation, of statistical evidence. No statistical evidence was presented in Letby’s case. There are other similarities and dissimilarities, but ultimately Letby’s guilt or innocent has to be judged on her case, not on someone else’s.
Private Eye, or the Telegraph or the New Yorker are under no requirement to present the case fairly. I think a more interesting read is “Unmasking Lucy Letby” by Jonathan Coffey and Judith Moritz. They attended the trial. One of them thinks she’s guilty, the other has doubts. I think the resulting book gets closer to a fair representation of events.
I will look out the book. Are Coffey and Moritz under requirement to present the case fairly?
Re: War? What is good for? Helping Starmer improve his ratings? – politicalbetting.com
Starmers agitation today of course could be because he is about to be exposed in the Mandy files.
Or maybe hes just an angry man generally
Or maybe hes just an angry man generally
Re: War? What is good for? Helping Starmer improve his ratings? – politicalbetting.com
Scotland should withdraw. They were nailed on to be first (home). Now they can withdraw with honour and forever more will say 'we would have won in 26'.Iran boycotts the World Cup.The real question is whether Brazil, Morocco and Haiti follow suite.
To raise 3 countries entirely at random.
Re: War? What is good for? Helping Starmer improve his ratings? – politicalbetting.com
Maybe the SNP should propose a Scottish boycott. Since he is so morally pure on the matter.Scotland accused Trump of a war crime at lunchtime. Maybe Sweeney needs a bigger bunker, and a look out for helicopters in the night 🤭Scotland should withdraw. They were nailed on to be first (home). Now they can withdraw with honour and forever more will say 'we would have won in 26'.Iran boycotts the World Cup.The real question is whether Brazil, Morocco and Haiti follow suite.
To raise 3 countries entirely at random.
DavidL
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Re: War? What is good for? Helping Starmer improve his ratings? – politicalbetting.com
Iran boycotts the World Cup.Best way to avoid a Mullahing in the group stages
Re: War? What is good for? Helping Starmer improve his ratings? – politicalbetting.com
A “war crime at lunchtime” ?Scotland accused Trump of a war crime at lunchtime. Maybe Sweeney needs a bigger bunker, and a look out for helicopters in the night 🤭Scotland should withdraw. They were nailed on to be first (home). Now they can withdraw with honour and forever more will say 'we would have won in 26'.Iran boycotts the World Cup.The real question is whether Brazil, Morocco and Haiti follow suite.
To raise 3 countries entirely at random.
Was pizza involved?
Re: War? What is good for? Helping Starmer improve his ratings? – politicalbetting.com
It is rare that an individual and organisation are so well matched to each other.Which, obviously, they are not.Fifa would feel extremely stupid right now about all their guff about football and peace to justify their bootlicking of Trump, if they were capable of shame.Iran boycotts the World Cup.Oh dear, how sad, nevermind.
Trump and FIFA are one such - gaudy, tasteless, stupid, ignorant, corrupt, narcissistic, a complete lack of self awareness and no shame.


