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I think Starmer broadly has the right idea in seeking closer ties without opening a can of worms. I remain unconvinced that rejoining the EU will solve many of the country’s problems, as much as I don’t think we should have left in the first place.

Agreed. For rejoining EU to be more than a distraction I'd be wanting to see polling consistently in the sixties range for at least five years before it would make much sense.

Agreed too. Although I think that leaving and even then going for a hard Brexit was the most stupid thing this country has done in recent times, having left there is no way we can think about rejoining, or the other countries would think about readmitting us, if there hasn't been a long term strong majority in favour. Just over 50% now can easily swing, not least if we went back to the position whereby the government blames the EU for almost every one of its own inadequacies.

Yawn, usual drivel

Nobody kmowspn what terms we would join but it will be pricey. The rejoin offer is to make yourself poorer and hand the country over to the prats who screwed it up over the last 30 years.

Given the record since 2016, that's a laugh.

The same people who screwed up the country have been in charge since 2016, The vote was not acted on until 2019 and bar the Johnson nonsense has still been under their control. The civil service, judiciary business lobbies are all the same and have not changed.

So it's like communism, then ?
It just hasn't been implemented right...

Fair analogy.

The EU is top down driven in a French dirigisme fashion.

Lolz are you lot still banging on about brexit? The real European issue at the next election will be membership of the ECHR.

Which is covered in the header/polling.

By the time 2029 comes around, public tolerance for the boat people will have gone beyond breaking point and the jaws will have narrowed on that question. The Tories politely tipped toed around the question for years. Bobby J just gave a full throated cry to leave the ECHR on Radio 4, the Tory shire members will catch up fast.

It’s simplistic to add Tory + Reform but pretty clear it will turn into a 52-48 issue soon. Angela Raynor seems to be the only mainstream labour politician savvy enough to realise it. Who knows perhaps she’ll defenestrate Starmer, solve the issue and we’ll all vote for labour next time rather than the wet fart of a vote total he managed.

Most people will have only clocked two things: the word "Europe(an)" and the choice "leave" or "remain".

The question is not being considered wholly independently at the moment.