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Re: The polls close, now the spin and expectations management – politicalbetting.com
Tories are quite entitled to enjoy their first bit of good news since before the Brexit vote.
BTW it does seem that Kemi Badenoch is cutting through, she featured very positively in the recent episode of the News Agents, where a focus group member described her as Thatcher with a sense of humour. Whilst said voter could not currently vote Tory, the potential is clearly there.
BTW it does seem that Kemi Badenoch is cutting through, she featured very positively in the recent episode of the News Agents, where a focus group member described her as Thatcher with a sense of humour. Whilst said voter could not currently vote Tory, the potential is clearly there.
Jonathan
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A great result for the King of the North and a very bad one for the SNP – politicalbetting.com
A great result for the King of the North and a very bad one for the SNP – politicalbetting.com
? | Makerfield Parliamentary By-Election Result:? LAB: 54.8% (+9.6)?? RFM: 34.5% (+2.7)? RES: 6.8% (New)? CON: 2.2% (-8.7)? GRN: 0.7% (-3.7)? LDM: 0.4% (-6.4)?? CBF: 0.2% (New)? MRLP: 0.1% (New)? Others (6): 0.3%Labour HOLD.Changes w/ GE2024.
System
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Re: The polls close, now the spin and expectations management – politicalbetting.com
Clearly so. A win is a win, and beating Reform.However people want to loo, at it, this really was a good result for the Blue team.You called it wrong. Badly.Morning all! Let’s talk Aberdeen South first. SNP absolutely scunnered by the usual collapse in SNP vote combined with all other party voters going tactical to oust them. Exactly what I was discussing with Tory activists at the Aberdeen count for the Holyrood election a few weeks.I think that over egging it in Aberdeen South. The SNP vote was down 4%, and SLAB down 19% but the turnout was down a massive 28% at 31%.
People like me voting Tory - or them voting Labour or LibDem - is how we stop the nationalist menace. Can I also gently remind our Tory friends on here who rightly want to talk bout how their oil and gas policies won this that their previous policies were the same as SNP and Labour policies…
Congratulations to James Adams who gets elected to Holyrood in Lumsden’s place.
So tactical voting, but also voters in Scotland much less interested in Westminster politics than Holyrood, particularly SNP voters.
I am not convinced this good result for the Tories is generalisable even to other parts of Scotland, let alone the rest of the UK.
Show some humility and admit it.
Perhaps the most interesting contest is now the GM Mayor byelection. That covers a big area of the NW, and Labour is going to need a strong candidate. How the Tories do there will be interesting.
Foxy
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Re: The polls close, now the spin and expectations management – politicalbetting.com
You should have stopped after the first five words 😉Yes, I got it wrong on Aberdeen South, but my point was that the Holyrood constituency was not congruous with the Westminster one as many were saying.You called it wrong. Badly.Morning all! Let’s talk Aberdeen South first. SNP absolutely scunnered by the usual collapse in SNP vote combined with all other party voters going tactical to oust them. Exactly what I was discussing with Tory activists at the Aberdeen count for the Holyrood election a few weeks.I think that over egging it in Aberdeen South. The SNP vote was down 4%, and SLAB down 19% but the turnout was down a massive 28% at 31%.
People like me voting Tory - or them voting Labour or LibDem - is how we stop the nationalist menace. Can I also gently remind our Tory friends on here who rightly want to talk bout how their oil and gas policies won this that their previous policies were the same as SNP and Labour policies…
Congratulations to James Adams who gets elected to Holyrood in Lumsden’s place.
So tactical voting, but also voters in Scotland much less interested in Westminster politics than Holyrood, particularly SNP voters.
I am not convinced this good result for the Tories is generalisable even to other parts of Scotland, let alone the rest of the UK.
Show some humility and admit it.
BTW I meant to ask you, what was your opinion of Jordan James when he was with you ? He was at Blues and looked like a star in the making. Went abroad to better himself. Seems to have done little of note since then and was loaned to your boys in a difficult season.
Taz
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Re: The polls close, now the spin and expectations management – politicalbetting.com
I'm very glad that at least two PBers appreciate humour.It’s all over for Starmer .Oh come, come, come.
All roads lead to Burnham becoming PM so he really should accept the inevitable.
Politics is a cruel game but rightly or wrongly most of the public seem to viscerally loathe Starmer and it’s hard to see how you could turn that around .
Whether Burnhams better popularity can survive when he becomes PM is another matter .
This result is a triumph for Starmer. Could Burnham have won without a popular figure like SKS in Number Ten?
rcs1000
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Re: The polls close, now the spin and expectations management – politicalbetting.com
Makerfield is exactly as I predicted - go me.Yes, tremendous for the Tories as were the local by elections. They will be ignored due to Burnham but it does seem that Kemi is steadying the ship.
Aberdeen South - what a result.
Taz
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Re: The polls close, now the spin and expectations management – politicalbetting.com
However people want to loo, at it, this really was a good result for the Blue team.You called it wrong. Badly.Morning all! Let’s talk Aberdeen South first. SNP absolutely scunnered by the usual collapse in SNP vote combined with all other party voters going tactical to oust them. Exactly what I was discussing with Tory activists at the Aberdeen count for the Holyrood election a few weeks.I think that over egging it in Aberdeen South. The SNP vote was down 4%, and SLAB down 19% but the turnout was down a massive 28% at 31%.
People like me voting Tory - or them voting Labour or LibDem - is how we stop the nationalist menace. Can I also gently remind our Tory friends on here who rightly want to talk bout how their oil and gas policies won this that their previous policies were the same as SNP and Labour policies…
Congratulations to James Adams who gets elected to Holyrood in Lumsden’s place.
So tactical voting, but also voters in Scotland much less interested in Westminster politics than Holyrood, particularly SNP voters.
I am not convinced this good result for the Tories is generalisable even to other parts of Scotland, let alone the rest of the UK.
Show some humility and admit it.
Taz
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Re: The polls close, now the spin and expectations management – politicalbetting.com
I agree in general, but the turnout was normal for a by-election really. Makerfield is exceptional.Morning all! Let’s talk Aberdeen South first. SNP absolutely scunnered by the usual collapse in SNP vote combined with all other party voters going tactical to oust them. Exactly what I was discussing with Tory activists at the Aberdeen count for the Holyrood election a few weeks.I think that over egging it in Aberdeen South. The SNP vote was down 4%, and SLAB down 19% but the turnout was down a massive 28% at 31%.
People like me voting Tory - or them voting Labour or LibDem - is how we stop the nationalist menace. Can I also gently remind our Tory friends on here who rightly want to talk bout how their oil and gas policies won this that their previous policies were the same as SNP and Labour policies…
Congratulations to James Adams who gets elected to Holyrood in Lumsden’s place.
So tactical voting, but also voters in Scotland much less interested in Westminster politics than Holyrood, particularly SNP voters.
I am not convinced this good result for the Tories is generalisable even to other parts of Scotland, let alone the rest of the UK.
kle4
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Re: A great result for the King of the North and a very bad one for the SNP – politicalbetting.com
Farage looks angry and is directly telling off people voting for Restore lolOh dear how sad never mind.
The main reason Farage has got where he is is because of his ability to take ex-Conservative voters by being more assertively right wing. Now Restore are doing the same to him.
Using someone's signature move against them is always funny to watch.
Re: The polls close, now the spin and expectations management – politicalbetting.com
And @Foxy didn't of course - he was one of the ones who poo-poohed the prediction of the Tories winning Aberdeen South.If someone makes two predictions and one fails and the other comes off at longer than evens, that's still a good result.A bit of caution @Andy_JS also predicted a cliffhanger/recount in Makerfield. While some of us predicted that Burnham would comfortably win with a majority greater than the Restore vote.Good morning, everyone.@Andy_JS . After almost ten years to the day he nailed Brexit.
I forget who tipped it alas, but thanks to whoever mentioned the Conservatives at 3 or so for Aberdeen South
Well done to Kemi and the Conservatives. It would otherwise have been their night.
If I hadn't been feeling pessimistic and backed Conservatives yesterday at 4.5 in Aberdeen South it would've been even better.
I'm sure a gracious and humble apology will be forthcoming, though.
