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Isn’t Starmer the anti-Bozo though, the grown up? Is it a good look after all the attacks on Boris’ integrity to then behave in a similar way?

I DEMAND SHE RESIGNS BECAUSE SHE CALLED FOR THE RESIGNATION OF ANOTHER GUY (who didn't actually resign, he got promoted...)

Yeah, great call

“ You will recall, no doubt, that while under investigation for his tax affairs, instead of resigning, BoZo MADE HIM THE FUCKING CHANCELLOR!”

Zahawi was sacked by Sunak because he didn’t inform Boris that he was under/had been investigated by HMRC when he was promoted and at further stages after so trying to make it look like evil Boris made him Chancellor knowing he was under investigation is disingenuous.

Zahawi was an arse who rightly paid the price.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear

Rayner on camera demanding that Tory minister Zahawi MUST resign for dodgy tax dealings


"Nadhim Zahawi’s story about his tax affairs doesn’t add up. After months of denials, the truth emerges.

His position is untenable. Rishi Sunak must dismiss him from his Cabinet.👇🏻"

https://x.com/AngelaRayner/status/1616729550913949696


There is years and years of this, from her. She is now in a completely impossible position, and is damaging Starmer with every hour she stays

This is what I said yesterday, she has dodgy tax dealings so she can't be leader or even stay on in the Cabinet. She's a really nasty piece of work and all of this "oh it was by accident" doesn't hold water for me. She's very clearly in the wrong, she's set up a trust for her kid so they can continue to claim disability benefits despite a £1m cash settlement and now the trust has purchased the house off her enabling a massive tax free gain (which until recently she's been briefing the media about how wrong it is to have no CGT on primary residences) which she's used to fund the purchase of her shag pad with her new boyfriend in a safe Labour seat in Hove.

Nah, Rayner and her defenders can jog on. It's unedifying to see some defend her so hard when it's clear she's in the wrong and dodged £40k in tax.

I prefer to await the results of the inquiry. But then, I don’t have the visceral hatred of Rayner that you obviously do. Is it because she’s Labour, a woman, or both?

To be fair I think it is her hypocrisy and her position as DPM and housing minister

It just looks awful, and of course Reeves is not going to be happy just when she is about to launch property taxes

Nothing to do with her being labour and a woman

'Genuine mistake'
Im sure thousands will be relieved that any issue uncovered by HMRC etc can be waved away with this defence.

I once got fined by HMRC, because my accountant at the time messed up. Strangely it didn't wash with them that my accountant hadn't filled some required paperwork in time. Also coincidentally my accountant swiftly found out they were no longer my accountant.

Mind, a friend's father discovered he had paid vast amounts in stamp duty unnecessarily. Because his solicitor had screwed up and hadn't actually put the sale through. So Dad didn't own the house he and the family occupied for a decade. It was only discovered when it was put up for sale and the buyer's solicitor did a due diligence. They were *very* lucky the original putative seller honoured the agreement rather than returning the cash and demanding the now very much more valuable house back.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear

Rayner on camera demanding that Tory minister Zahawi MUST resign for dodgy tax dealings


"Nadhim Zahawi’s story about his tax affairs doesn’t add up. After months of denials, the truth emerges.

His position is untenable. Rishi Sunak must dismiss him from his Cabinet.👇🏻"

https://x.com/AngelaRayner/status/1616729550913949696


There is years and years of this, from her. She is now in a completely impossible position, and is damaging Starmer with every hour she stays

This is what I said yesterday, she has dodgy tax dealings so she can't be leader or even stay on in the Cabinet. She's a really nasty piece of work and all of this "oh it was by accident" doesn't hold water for me. She's very clearly in the wrong, she's set up a trust for her kid so they can continue to claim disability benefits despite a £1m cash settlement and now the trust has purchased the house off her enabling a massive tax free gain (which until recently she's been briefing the media about how wrong it is to have no CGT on primary residences) which she's used to fund the purchase of her shag pad with her new boyfriend in a safe Labour seat in Hove.

Nah, Rayner and her defenders can jog on. It's unedifying to see some defend her so hard when it's clear she's in the wrong and dodged £40k in tax.

She has always been a nasty piece of work. Her supporters like to claim that she apologised for saying nasty things about Tories but in reality any apology had to be forced out of her. You can disagree with someone's politics without believing them to be scum.

And now to be shown to be as venal as any Tory that she demanded resign. I imagine many of her previous targets are enjoying the irony of a Housing Minister - A HOUSING MINISTER - getting into a pickle about housing.

agree

'Genuine mistake'
Im sure thousands will be relieved that any issue uncovered by HMRC etc can be waved away with this defence.

Generally, most errors in tax payment are dealt with as mistakes and you just pay what was owed (+ interest). Very few cases lead to any prosecution.

HMRC has a system where penalties can be applied from 0-100% of the underpaid tax. Presumably, they have not yet assessed what to do in this case and may yet apply penalties. The penalty scheme goes...

lack of reasonable care - the penalty will be between 0% and 30% of the extra tax due
deliberate - the penalty will be between 20 and 70% of the extra tax due
deliberate and concealed - the penalty will be between 30 and 100% of the extra tax due

Doesn’t matter, this is politics, as I’ve said, perceptions matter more than the facts.

All the public will see is she avoided £40,000, which is more than plenty of them earn.

She decided to do the trust to help look after her son which any parent would do in these circumstances. Her mistake seems genuine and I hope she can stay on as Deputy PM.

Her head will not even rise from the trough

Freshwater Strategy for September
Ref 33 (=)
Lab 20 (-2)
Con 17 (-1)
LD 15 (+1)
Grn 7 (+1)
SNP 3(=)

To show how ridiculous Baxter has become, I put the numbers in and East Ham is a Reform gain from Labour.

Now, it's unlikely Labour will lose the seat as they've held it (and its equivalents) since the 1920s but if it were to be lost, it's much more likely it would go to an Independent than to Reform who start from 3.5% in fourth place in a constituency which is strongly Muslim. Even those who have become ardent Reform supporters on this forum have conceded East Ham isn't one of their more likely gains at the next election.

As we saw in the 2024 election, the pollsters seem unable or unwilling to pick up the "Independent" vote and I suspect that is inflating some of the Reform numbers. I would be astonished if Reform won East Ham at the next election - indeed, i'd be more astonished than if the Conservatives or Greens won it. The one thing that would be astonish me more would be a Liberal Democrat win.

That poll only has 5% for "others" so not much for pro-Hamas independents

Nationally, no, but we know from 2024 how the strength of that vote in Muslim areas was "missed" by pollsters.

In Newham, we have a by-election in Plaistow North on 16th September which should be enlightening as to the strength of the anti-Labour vote.

Yes the “Hamas independent” vote was very concentrated, hence the handful of MPs.

One of the more worrying takeaways from the last election, the potential for sectarian politics to dominate in many English towns.

Baxter bases it's swing calculations on the PLMR MRP, which had a few unusual results like Reform sweeping Birmingham.

The Feb 25 Yougov MRP, had East Ham as Lab 42, Green 15, Ref 14, Con 10, Other 10, LD 8

And as you say in terms of resources, Ref's main targets in E London will be Hornchurch, Romford and Dagenham, then Chingford if IDS retires. Stretch targets would be Barking and Ilford N

As stated, it is very difficult for the pollsters to deal with independents until they know who is actually standing.

Isn’t Starmer the anti-Bozo though, the grown up? Is it a good look after all the attacks on Boris’ integrity to then behave in a similar way?

I DEMAND SHE RESIGNS BECAUSE SHE CALLED FOR THE RESIGNATION OF ANOTHER GUY (who didn't actually resign, he got promoted...)

Yeah, great call

“ You will recall, no doubt, that while under investigation for his tax affairs, instead of resigning, BoZo MADE HIM THE FUCKING CHANCELLOR!”

Zahawi was sacked by Sunak because he didn’t inform Boris that he was under/had been investigated by HMRC when he was promoted and at further stages after so trying to make it look like evil Boris made him Chancellor knowing he was under investigation is disingenuous.

Zahawi was an arse who rightly paid the price.

That’s not true.

‘It can also be revealed that Boris Johnson, home secretary Priti Patel and the Cabinet Office were all informed of the investigations.’

https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2022/07/10/boris-johnson-learned-nothing-from-pinchergate/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chancellor-nadhim-zahawi-tax-investigation-hmrc-b2119590.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter