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Re: MAGA is here to stay – politicalbetting.com
The best explanation I have seen is that Bona Vacantia (ie this piece of land came to them through intestacy) voids pre-existing liabilities,In general, the monarch isn't subject to the courts. It's where the concept of Crown immunity comes from, and why Civil Servants technically don't have employment rights.Why is the Duchy exempt from cleaning it up?The "private land" has an exemption in Bickershaw. It's about one third owned by the Duchy of Lancaster.Curse of new thread.It was a national scandal, which led to this.
Guardian in Makerfield. Actually in Hindley, too.
The Bickershaw industrial scale fly tipping would have been a national scandal had it happened anywhere near a media person's home.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/31/labour-have-lost-their-way-voters-in-makerfield-say-its-time-for-a-change
Taxpayers to fund clear-up of huge illegal waste dumps
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2expk404vo
Three of the worst illegal rubbish dumps in England are set to be cleaned up at the taxpayers' expense as part of a national waste crime action plan launched by the government.
Huge tips in Wigan, Sheffield and Lancashire - together containing 48,000 tonnes of waste - have been earmarked for clearance by the Environment Agency. A 20,000-tonne site in Kidlington, Oxfordshire, is already being cleared at a cost of more than £9m.
Normally, the cost of clearing illegal sites on private land is met by the landowner.
The plan has been welcomed by locals near the tips but villagers near one of the so-called supersites uncovered by a recent BBC investigation are angry that site is not being cleared.
'Forgotten about'
The three sites identified for clearance include a notorious dump in Bickershaw, near Wigan, which caught fire last summer, forcing schools nearby to close..
Given how long such things take, if Burnham does become PM, he will probably get the opportunity to take credit for clearing it up.
The Royals have no duty to clean up, and from all evidence, aren't in the slightest bit interested in so doing.
Is there an exception in EPA 1990 or something?
This must be seriously obscure.
So it's not so much that there is no duty to clean it up, more that the Duchy can't be made to do so.
Bit since 10,000 tons of waste is still sitting in a big heap on their piece of land, I do not see how they can walk away just like that.
MattW
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Re: MAGA is here to stay – politicalbetting.com
royals spend some of their own money , don't be silly, as usual they expect the mugs to pick up the tabWhy is the Duchy exempt from cleaning it up?The "private land" has an exemption in Bickershaw. It's about one third owned by the Duchy of Lancaster.Curse of new thread.It was a national scandal, which led to this.
Guardian in Makerfield. Actually in Hindley, too.
The Bickershaw industrial scale fly tipping would have been a national scandal had it happened anywhere near a media person's home.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/31/labour-have-lost-their-way-voters-in-makerfield-say-its-time-for-a-change
Taxpayers to fund clear-up of huge illegal waste dumps
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2expk404vo
Three of the worst illegal rubbish dumps in England are set to be cleaned up at the taxpayers' expense as part of a national waste crime action plan launched by the government.
Huge tips in Wigan, Sheffield and Lancashire - together containing 48,000 tonnes of waste - have been earmarked for clearance by the Environment Agency. A 20,000-tonne site in Kidlington, Oxfordshire, is already being cleared at a cost of more than £9m.
Normally, the cost of clearing illegal sites on private land is met by the landowner.
The plan has been welcomed by locals near the tips but villagers near one of the so-called supersites uncovered by a recent BBC investigation are angry that site is not being cleared.
'Forgotten about'
The three sites identified for clearance include a notorious dump in Bickershaw, near Wigan, which caught fire last summer, forcing schools nearby to close..
Given how long such things take, if Burnham does become PM, he will probably get the opportunity to take credit for clearing it up.
The Royals have no duty to clean up, and from all evidence, aren't in the slightest bit interested in so doing.
Is there an exception in EPA 1990 or something?
This must be seriously obscure.
malcolmg
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Re: MAGA is here to stay – politicalbetting.com
MAGA may well be here to stay, but the Democrats have done their bit to help. Since 2020 they’ve managed the rare feat of combining an unpopular candidate, poor messaging and policies that many voters simply didn’t want. Parties usually only need one of those to lose an election.Harris, Biden and Clinton were all pretty centrist, and much more so than Trump. Biden, of course, won. Clinton won the popular vote. Harris was close on the popular vote, but sunk by post-COVID inflation.
The more interesting question isn’t whether MAGA survives Trump, but whether the Democrats can rediscover the political centre before the Republicans rediscover theirs.
Re: MAGA is here to stay – politicalbetting.com
MAGA was never about winning wars in the middle east. So no reason to think a calamity in Iran will change much.MAGA is me. Trump has said this and all indications are that he's correct. It's a personality cult in other words. And he does, tbf, have a strong personality. I find it utterly repellent, he has none of the traits I like or admire in a human being and just about all the ones I can't stand, but the cult members love him to bits. It's an unconditional and enduring love, a love that lasts forever, a love that has no past (preceding him). Can't say I understand it. Can't say I want to.
kinabalu
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Re: MAGA is here to stay – politicalbetting.com
I’m not sure this polling carries much implication for the midterms; it’s basically exploring the core vote. A bit like asking HY whether he’s still a Conservative and then projecting that onto the rest of voters for his party; the core vote can remain stable while swing voters are shopping elsewhere.
Talking of polls and swing voters, this bit of research into the local elections is interesting and I think, free access (just give an email and put ‘None’ into the company box). It’s a mega poll of how voters switched behaviour between the 2024 GE and 2026 locals, and at the bottom there’s a drop down where you can select individual councils or even individual wards to see how voters moved. There isn’t much detail about confidence limits so I’d assume the data at Ward level is highly flaky, but for your council it should produce something better.
https://convergent-opinion.com/local-elections-2026
Talking of polls and swing voters, this bit of research into the local elections is interesting and I think, free access (just give an email and put ‘None’ into the company box). It’s a mega poll of how voters switched behaviour between the 2024 GE and 2026 locals, and at the bottom there’s a drop down where you can select individual councils or even individual wards to see how voters moved. There isn’t much detail about confidence limits so I’d assume the data at Ward level is highly flaky, but for your council it should produce something better.
https://convergent-opinion.com/local-elections-2026
IanB2
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Re: MAGA is here to stay – politicalbetting.com
If the Tories were taken over by Reform then they wouldn't have survived they would effectively have been taken over by Reform whatever name the new party was calledLongish thread by Rentoul on Kemi and her party's fortunes:Rather a reasonable analysis.
https://x.com/JohnRentoul/status/2061001676421513448
The Conservatives will survive. They always do, but I see them subsumed by Reform with Reform taking the brand name.They won't be Butskellist Tories, but the name lives on. Badenoch is half way there as we speak.
HYUFD
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Re: MAGA is here to stay – politicalbetting.com
If the Tories lose in 2029 they’d do well to choose somebody who can run against the last Conservative government.
Re: MAGA is here to stay – politicalbetting.com
Only in France would people riot after winning a championship.
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Re: MAGA is here to stay – politicalbetting.com
In general, the monarch isn't subject to the courts. It's where the concept of Crown immunity comes from, and why Civil Servants technically don't have employment rights.Why is the Duchy exempt from cleaning it up?The "private land" has an exemption in Bickershaw. It's about one third owned by the Duchy of Lancaster.Curse of new thread.It was a national scandal, which led to this.
Guardian in Makerfield. Actually in Hindley, too.
The Bickershaw industrial scale fly tipping would have been a national scandal had it happened anywhere near a media person's home.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/31/labour-have-lost-their-way-voters-in-makerfield-say-its-time-for-a-change
Taxpayers to fund clear-up of huge illegal waste dumps
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2expk404vo
Three of the worst illegal rubbish dumps in England are set to be cleaned up at the taxpayers' expense as part of a national waste crime action plan launched by the government.
Huge tips in Wigan, Sheffield and Lancashire - together containing 48,000 tonnes of waste - have been earmarked for clearance by the Environment Agency. A 20,000-tonne site in Kidlington, Oxfordshire, is already being cleared at a cost of more than £9m.
Normally, the cost of clearing illegal sites on private land is met by the landowner.
The plan has been welcomed by locals near the tips but villagers near one of the so-called supersites uncovered by a recent BBC investigation are angry that site is not being cleared.
'Forgotten about'
The three sites identified for clearance include a notorious dump in Bickershaw, near Wigan, which caught fire last summer, forcing schools nearby to close..
Given how long such things take, if Burnham does become PM, he will probably get the opportunity to take credit for clearing it up.
The Royals have no duty to clean up, and from all evidence, aren't in the slightest bit interested in so doing.
Is there an exception in EPA 1990 or something?
This must be seriously obscure.
So it's not so much that there is no duty to clean it up, more that the Duchy can't be made to do so.
Re: MAGA is here to stay – politicalbetting.com
The SNP I’m afraid are a deeply dodgy outfit.Just wait until I tell you all about UKIP/Brexit and Reform.Ltd.

